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The best PDA for music playback, no hissing!

I have a MDA Touch and will be upgrading in the very near future. I was hoping someone could offer me a little advice over Music Playback.
I use the Touch a lot for music playback and have Audio Manager, Coreplayer, Mortplayer, SRSWOW and Pocket Player installed. All of these different players suffer from the same problem, a slight hiss on all audio tracks which is not noticable on a dedicated MP3 player such as an IPOD or Creative.
I have done various searches on these and other forums and this hiss is often put down to a lesser quality audio chip on board the PDA. Not to be confused with the hiss from bluetooth headsets, I use a set of wired headphones and have also found that the better the quality of headphones the more noticable the hiss. I tend to agree with the explanation that the hardware doesn't have a good dedicated sound chip.
The problem I have is that the hiss problem comes up in different forums for several HTC PDA's and is certainly not isolated to the Touch. This is were I would like your advice if anyone knows of a PDA that does not suffer from this problem.
Please don't advise me to just use an MP3 Player or buy an N95. Although music is the main thing I use on my PDA, Windows mobile is a must for all the other tools I need and I would prefer to use one device only and one that at least plays music without problems.
Many thanks in advance.

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I don't think pda designed for mp3 playback.
You should take your pda to repair service maybe something inside were broken

All modern pocket pc's are designed so that they can play back MP3's, it's just that it seems several are not optimized to play them to the high standard of a dedicated MP3 player. It's not often the software that causes this but the hardware. I am looking for a Pocket PC that comes close to the standard of a dedicated player.

Proper MP3 / Media Player

Is it me or do none of the available mp3 players really cut it?
I'm no iPod fan, but it does seem to work well, the PDA MP3 players just seem 'clunky'. Now storage is soooo cheap, PDAs are really becoming sensible for use as such devices.
I use my PDA for everything so I want a media player to fit in with everything else, for example when I'm using the sat nav in the car, I want to be able to use it also for playing MP3s over an FM link to the car stereo. When a new track starts I'd like a window to pop up for 2 or 3 seconds telling me what it is, and giving me the chance to skip.
Anyone have more experience than me, and can suggest something?
Thanks!

personally, I use pocket music, but i dont listen to music often. I find its a nice player, really.
maybe the new pocket tunes 4.1 with its iTunes support is to your taste? I havent tried any others (only windows media player).

I'd like this too. I liked using the voice command function of WMP in the car too.
Mortplayer is probably the best I've used. It's free, skinable and very customizable.

Windows Mobile Media Players?

I love my iPhone because it can be my media player and my phone. But, I need more functionality offered in Windows Mobile.
So, do you guys use your Windows Mobile device as a Media Player? Or do you have separate Zunes/iPods/etc. to do the work of the media player?
If you do use Window Mobile, let me know what program you use for your media!

TCPMP is an excellent media player. I have not found an unlocked audio or video file it could not play. If you search for TCPMP in this forum or in the XDA-Developers Wiki you'll find most anything you'd want to know.
That said, while TCPMP is a nice player, it is not an organizer nor does it have a fancy "choosing" function for selecting files. Perhaps someone could recommend an application that makes launching TCPMP more intuitive.

Both have their place
I've got a Zune 30 that I bring along when I know I'll want plenty of music to choose from. My main reason is that battery life on my Tilt is not what I'd like it to be because my 8 gig sd card has plenty of room for tunes, and S2P is one of the slickest programs I've ever seen. You would be comfortable with it immediately. I do listen to Audible content (newspaper) on my phone every morning with the Kinoma player. It's actually easier to get the content onto my phone than to get it on my Zune. Audible's manager program blows hard. The Kinoma player can handle pictures, video, and streams as well. I use it for Youtube all the time.
As an added bonus for us Zune owners, I recently discoverd that ZunePass subscription content can be synched to our phones with Windows Media Player and plays just fine in either WMP or S2P, so I have been putting more music on the SD card lately.

on those occasions when i only want to carry one device then I use S2P to play audio files on my Trinity.

S2P on the Tilt for music, TCPMP for movies. Done.

Is s2p free? What media formats does it support? Is it A2DP compatible? And does it have any way of controlling music in standby mode (Can you click the D-Pad while the screen is off to skip a song??? Can you control volume using the toggle switches?
Thanks for the tips guys!

I use the HTC Audio Manager, which has a very similar interface to the classic iPod. You can use the D-Pad to control it and the volume switch to change the volume (but I think the device has to be on)
It supports A2DP.
You can also control it from the home screen (http://www.unwiredview.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/htc-touch-diamond-official.jpg)

Kinoma Player
I've used this free program called Kinoma Player which is brilliant.
It has full touch friendly interface, it can stream youtube files, supports many other files, it's great overall, even has podcasts.
I'd recommend that program, you can get it off of Windows Mobile Total Access or from Kinoma's sight directly.
Hey, about the ZunePass stuff, my subscription music doesn't work on my T-Mobile Wing. Any clue why? probably cuz of the DRM's but you guys said urs worked, so it leaves me wondering.
Do you sync ur Zune music to your phone using Windows Media Player sync? Or do you just drag & drop the music to ur card?

Sync the ZunePass content through WMP
and it should work. At least that is what works for me.

Best Music player for HD2?

Hi,
I would like to know which music player is best for playing music on HD?
I looking for someone good player as Ipod or as build on sence, good-looking and have good management also..
Please give me some tips..
THX

I prefer Kinoma Play.
Others you can try are Nitrogen, S2P, Pocketplayer, Mortplayer, Pocketmusic.

I use Kinoma Free Play. It's really good.

Nitrogen
Nitrogen is the best player!

maati said:
I prefer Kinoma Play.
Others you can try are Nitrogen, S2P, Pocketplayer, Mortplayer, Pocketmusic.
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Looking good but there you can play lot off thing's i wont only for music for rest i have coreplayer but picasa upload ets not bad too..

Big fan op pocketplayer here...

Kinoma Play by far....

I more and more like the built in HTC music player.

To my mind, mort player ist the best. wvga is supported by many skins it's got mp3 alarm (that works), mp3 and ogg support and it is freeware.
here is the dl:
http://mortplayer.softonic.de/pocketpc

I found S2P and this is not so bad..

I used to use Nitrogen but started to get pauses in the playback for a couple of seconds at a time. With Nitrogen installed these occurred in both the built in Music Player and Nitrogen itself. As soon as I removed it though these pauses also disappeared. Now I use the built in Music Player until I find something better that is also finger friendly.

I would like to ask, which player can support AVRCP on HD2?

Nowadays i get back to buld-in music player.. I didn't found any player to be better..

Probably a stupid question but can I still access the built in htc music player if I have SPB shell installed?
Also, why is Kinoma player described as Free? I thought it was a program you have to pay for?

If you want the best equalizer (you have to pump up the low frequencies in order to get a good bass), best bass level (the best for Rock and Metal music) and a very good UI, you should go for Pocket Player. It has tons of functions (playlists and a lot more organizing functions) and it's the most function oriented music player. It works perfectly with the headset (its buttons) when you install the WMP plugin (something you don't get with the other players) . If you use it combined with the AudioBooster of the phone, the sound will be perfect.
But if you want something simple to use, use PocketMusic (the equalizer is horrible, but the bass booster is very good) or Nitrogen. MortPlayer isn't bad. But it can be difficult to use and it's a heavy program.
So there you have it.

Cret said:
Probably a stupid question but can I still access the built in htc music player if I have SPB shell installed?
Also, why is Kinoma player described as Free? I thought it was a program you have to pay for?
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There's a free version called "Kinoma Free Play". It works great for music with no real limitations (except for upgrade ads at startup).

nitrogen is very basic, but does the job. PocketPlayer is without a doubt the best player out there though.

Thanks Nsider
I've tried it now and kinoma keeps hanging when it's scanning through my media on the storage card so I've not actually been able to test it. It's the same video it gets stuck on so I could remove it I guess but not much use if that happens whenever there is a file it doesn't like.
Tried Pocket Player and while it looks like it'd do the job ok it seems REALLY slow to run & respond. Any reason why this would be?

Pocket Player is slow at the first time you run it. Because it searches for your MP3 files and it makes an index of them. Therfor it is slow only for 3-5 minutes. After that, it's very fast and smooth. If you have a class 2 memory card, install Pocet Player on your device memory.
Cret said:
Thanks Nsider
I've tried it now and kinoma keeps hanging when it's scanning through my media on the storage card so I've not actually been able to test it. It's the same video it gets stuck on so I could remove it I guess but not much use if that happens whenever there is a file it doesn't like.
Tried Pocket Player and while it looks like it'd do the job ok it seems REALLY slow to run & respond. Any reason why this would be?
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Builtin HTC media player in my books, could do with a few tweaks tho, like search/letters down the side. On Coverflo the albums should be ordered alphabetically. Other than that its perfect! I have about 14gb worth of music and it handles it perfectly.
Other than that, I would also go with PocketPlayer, its really good, loved using that on my Diamond.

PowerAmp [HELP]!

Can someone tell me why in PowerAmp there is a 'Folders' button and 'Library' button.
I'm pretty confused by the interface and the app itself and how to use the folders/library and which is for what and how it should be used.
All my songs I put on the phone appear in the 'Folders' menu, but none of those songs appear in the 'Library' which really seems to be more of a sensible place for them to appear because the Library has all songs, artists, playlists etc and seems to be the normal area for the app to store its music.
I have no idea how to get the music in there which is where I want it.
When I am playing a song it shows the artist and title and below it a folder path location? But why? It's like a path of where it is on the phone's SD card and the path of where it was on the computer. I don't need this information in the player view.
Also, I have to have my volume on max to hear anything decently despite being told PowerAmp helps the issue of the low media volume with the default audio player. (Sennheiser CX870s). Anyone know why/how to get the volume working more 'normally'? (Desire HD)
Any tips are appreciated.
Any other good music player app suggestions are appreciated.

Never encountered this with the default music player (where the audio is not loud enough).
I use the full version of Power Amp (no difference from trial) and it works great for me because I find the stock music player sorely lacking, leaving a lot to be desired.
You could try messing with the equalizer, I don't have my phone on my person at the moment so my advice isn't as solid as I'd like...
Have you tried another music player such as DoubleTwist?
(look up on market place; i can't post links yet )
I use a pair of $50 Sony MDR EX85LP earbuds, they're great for the price and on my Droid X they are plenty loud for my tastes, could it possibly be the earbuds or specific piece of music you are listening to?
If what I mentioned doesn't help my last piece of advice would be to try and find some sort of digital amp that would amplify your music, or an actual pocket amp.

Sorry I forgot to say the volume issues is regarding the HTC Desire HD.
Thanks mithikx I'll check out DoubleTwist.
Anyone else who can answer my OP questions, that would be great

PowerAMP has both features for, well, convenience. A lot of people who're really into their music like to organise it themselves, with a folder structure of their choosing - eg. they might have it separated by genres, or by what mood the music reminds them of, or what place they like to play the music in. The 'Folders' tab gives you the same actual folder structure as is on the SD card, I find it quite handy myself, it makes a lot more sense to me because I can specify the structure any way I choose, much easier than making playlists.
The library, on the other hand, is just like PowerAMP tells you when you first tab to it - it's the default Android media library, and is managed by Android, not PowerAMP. It's the traditional media player structure, and sounds like that's what works best for you. If files aren't showing up in the library, you need to get the default Sense media player (Assuming you're on a stock DHD build) to scan that music, because in theory it shouldn't be showing up in the Sense player if it's not in the PowerAMP library. Try restarting the phone, unmounting/remounting the SD card, or downloading a widget that lets you trigger a media scan.
As for the volume, have you tried boosting the 'pre-amp' in the PowerAMP equalizer? The only other media player I'd recommend would be Winamp, don't like DoubleTwist myself.
Hope this helps.

Hi
I really do like powerAmp a lot. Specially the folder option, since I can play the music in the exactly order I put in the memory without needing to create a playlist. I tried the trial version an I was about to buy it , but then I found the SRS enhancement option on the default HTC Desire HD player and I really like how the music sounds with that option.
Does somebody know if this feature is or would be available on a future version of poweramp? Are these SRS enhancement and the other option Dolby mobile just digital equialization settings that maybe can be reproduce on the poweramp amplifier, or there is something more that is done by hardware or only possible to be done by HTC?

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I really do like powerAmp a lot. Specially the folder option, since I can play the music in the exactly order I put in the memory without needing to create a playlist. I tried the trial version an I was about to buy it , but then I found the SRS enhancement option on the default HTC Desire HD player and I really like how the music sounds with that option.
Does somebody know if this feature is or would be available on a future version of poweramp? Are these SRS enhancement and the other option Dolby mobile just digital equialization settings that maybe can be reproduce on the poweramp amplifier, or there is something more that is done by hardware or only possible to be done by HTC?
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I don't see it happening honestly. SRS Labs licenses their technologies, which would make PowerAMP more expensive than it already is. You can probably mess around with the EQ to make the sound similar to SRS I bet.