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Hello everyone, i just received my unlocked rogers magic today! looks beautiful and I cant wait to get it flashed to hero rom so i can get customizing. I am quite nervous regarding the steps, as they seem different and your inda required to take bits and pieces here and there to get thru the process for your specific phone. These are the specs from my phone :
PVT 32A SHIP S -on H
HBOOT - 1.33.00009(SAPP50000)
CPID - 12
Radio - 3.22.20.17
Do i need to follow the root steps in the magic wiki? or can I just install the full hero rom and expect it to work properly? I would like the little android guy startup animation from the hero as well, not sure if thats included in the fatality rogers magic rom. If i have to follow the steps for root first, then i would download Haykuro's Magic "rootme" rom, but not the magic modified recovery rom on the same page, because i have another .img file i downloded earlier in wiki which is supposebly for 32A boards, its called daldroid-recovery. if I have those files right, then i think i can do the rooting process. at the end of the driod wiki, it says to get the hacked spl for nandroid backups etc download haykuro's SPL update, is that something I need to/should be doing now as well?
Thanks for being patient with me. I appreciate any help much
Do not use Haykuro's ROM for 32A phones. Daldroid's and Amon_RA's recovery are both ok for the phone but I prefer Amon's.
Haven't tried any of the Hero ROMs as I need BT so can't comment on that.
Going to go ahead and quote my own post.I swear there's a search function around here somewhere
Hereis the guide I used and would suggest you try out if your getting a Rogers Magic.
Once you have it Rooted you can flash any ROM that is for a 32a board(288mb RAM)
Here the Roms that are moded to work for the Rogers Magic.
Clinton
my 2 cent information on this matter.
I would take a look at "Ultimate Guide to Hacking your Sapphire Handset" http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking - which also is in a sticky post.
It goes thru most issues.
Note, SPL flashing is the dangerous part and is not nessary needed. I have flashed several firmwares (also the wrong ones - 32B/32a, just reflash to fix) and i have not flashed SPL. SPL flashing as i understand it, is needed when flashing an unsigned firmware or parts of it - like a nandroid restore.
The root access. You get it by using the Android SDK and fastboot/adb, and it allows you to do the flash (and write files to your phone). After that most firmware has root access allowed build into the firmware so i can be granted dynamically.
wedif said:
my 2 cent information on this matter.
I would take a look at "Ultimate Guide to Hacking your Sapphire Handset" http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking - which also is in a sticky post.
It goes thru most issues.
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Excellent! Thanks for posting the wiki there. Cheers!
wedif said:
my 2 cent information on this matter.
I would take a look at "Ultimate Guide to Hacking your Sapphire Handset" http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking - which also is in a sticky post.
It goes thru most issues.
Note, SPL flashing is the dangerous part and is not nessary needed. I have flashed several firmwares (also the wrong ones - 32B/32a, just reflash to fix) and i have not flashed SPL. SPL flashing as i understand it, is needed when flashing an unsigned firmware or parts of it - like a nandroid restore.
The root access. You get it by using the Android SDK and fastboot/adb, and it allows you to do the flash (and write files to your phone). After that most firmware has root access allowed build into the firmware so i can be granted dynamically.
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thanks, i had actually already gone thru the hacking wiki and other stickies but still had some questions. I think that CLINTONH's link should help the most. is there a reason not to use fatalitys hero rom on my magic? it was listed under the rogers rom repository thread.
alaskan84 said:
thanks, i had actually already gone thru the hacking wiki and other stickies but still had some questions. I think that CLINTONH's link should help the most. is there a reason not to use fatalitys hero rom on my magic? it was listed under the rogers rom repository thread.
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None at all, unless you can't live without bluetooth. It works for listening to music with BT headphones but not with handsfree systems. I use it anyway, I tried other ROMS but the Sense UI is what I like. Some say there is lag but I don't find it lags any more than the stock ROM.
Clinton
Thanks Clinton, If i have time today at work im gonna try following your steps. So far ive just gotten the adb connection setup between my phone and mini.
Great post, I have many of these same questions. My Roger's Magic is out for delivery right now and I sure can't wait to get it up and running with my AT&T 3g service.
I've tried both JAC's 32a Hero and Fatality's, and personaly I had serious speed issues with Fatality's.
JAC's ran a lot faster on my phone, Nordic HTC Magic.
mockillo said:
I've tried both JAC's 32a Hero and Fatality's, and personaly I had serious speed issues with Fatality's.
JAC's ran a lot faster on my phone, Nordic HTC Magic.
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Really it was the opposite for me JAC's ROM did the force close on me often and would hang when opening Message app and Mail. Browser was pretty fast but not a huge difference between the 2. Fatal1ty's ROM was very smooth and fast, my wife said the same no lag at all she kept it on her Magic as well. Maybe you had a bad flash or didn't do a data wipe?? Is your phone a Rogers Magic? Weird.
Clinton
i thought with all that extra ram on the rogers' magic, the same amount that came on the hero, that there wouldnt be any sort of lag with sense UI and that it should be the same in perfomance as the real hero.
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i thought with all that extra ram on the rogers' magic, the same amount that came on the hero, that there wouldnt be any sort of lag with sense UI and that it should be the same in perfomance as the real hero.
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Unfortunately, the real Hero has quite alot of lag. From what I have used, the compcache'd ROM's for the G1 and 32B are alot faster than the actual Hero itself.
I got my Rogers magic in, unlocked on at&t. The first thing I did was rooted and stuck this Fatality rom on there. All i get it crashes in multiple menus .
I'm about to try the JAC one and see if it's any better. I don't care about the sense UI but need a non crashing rom + multitouch. Any ideas?
hakeem9 said:
Unfortunately, the real Hero has quite alot of lag. From what I have used, the compcache'd ROM's for the G1 and 32B are alot faster than the actual Hero itself.
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it probably needs a lot of optimizing for it run smooth then haha which is kinda unfortunate they didn't optimize before releasing the real hero.
I agree, i used hero rom on the G1, fully optimized and it was running pretty good with compcache. now, if we optimized and compcache it to run on the magic with the 288mb of ram, i'm sure it'll be really smooth! i hope i get my roger's magic soon, cant wait.
pcm2a said:
I got my Rogers magic in, unlocked on at&t. The first thing I did was rooted and stuck this Fatality rom on there. All i get it crashes in multiple menus .
I'm about to try the JAC one and see if it's any better. I don't care about the sense UI but need a non crashing rom + multitouch. Any ideas?
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Are you sure you flashed it right, I think I've had maybe 2 crashes in the whole time I've had this ROM on my Magic. Please read through the Guide I linked to and fallow it the letter. Then download a copy of the ROM from the second link and do a full wipe before installing the new ROM.
Clinton
I've been using the 1.2 version of Fatality's ROM ever since he made it. It's worked so well I haven't even bothered to try out 1.3 or 1.4.
I find most of the lag with Sense has to do with all the background updating that the new widgets do (stock updates, contact FB syncing, etc..). Once those are minimized it's really zippy.
Personally, I love the connectivity of the UI. Everything just works so well together, it's so tight. I'm looking to get my car hooked up with BT, so we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
Awesome, totally awesome.....as far as A boards go, ClintonH, your link should be the sticky for everything. I followed it exactly, with my rogers magic, and it just worked. I was nervous at first, but each step worked as it said it should. i now am running fatality's magic rom and its amazing. I love the sense ui, and i cant tell any more lag than with the rogers rom. A+++ the wiki might be a tad confusing, but if you use the files specified in clintons link, youll have no issues!
alaskan84 said:
Awesome, totally awesome.....as far as A boards go, ClintonH, your link should be the sticky for everything. I followed it exactly, with my rogers magic, and it just worked. I was nervous at first, but each step worked as it said it should. i now am running fatality's magic rom and its amazing. I love the sense ui, and i cant tell any more lag than with the rogers rom. A+++ the wiki might be a tad confusing, but if you use the files specified in clintons link, youll have no issues!
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Good to hear your happy, you should drop a thank you in Skittleguys thread letting him know he's the man. I'm just spreading the word.
Clinton
ClintonH said:
Are you sure you flashed it right, I think I've had maybe 2 crashes in the whole time I've had this ROM on my Magic. Please read through the Guide I linked to and fallow it the letter. Then download a copy of the ROM from the second link and do a full wipe before installing the new ROM.
Clinton
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I thought that too, but I installed it twice and both times I got tons of crashes. The third rom I installed is the Jachero optimized rom and I haven't had one single crash yet.
I bought the mytouch 3g fender the day before yesterday,It's a nice phone,but i need used other language,so i rooting it by this post:
//forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622530
I guarantee that each step is done in accordance with what he said，But unfortunately，i can't enter the system now,it stuck at boot screen.
I tried 3 times，however, the result is the same.
can i go to the t-mobile for help? can they restore it ?
What rom did u flash, the only ond that works is the one cursordroid had in his post
i flashed the cm 4.2 for g2 rom
Flash this. Its the only rom that will currently work for the fender.
http://www.theandroidkitchen.com/fil...xed-signed.zip
i can't open that webside,Give me a correct URL PLZ!! thanks alot
Sorry about that
http://www.theandroidkitchen.com/fileshare/MyTouch3g32A/?download=MT3G32AFender-1.0-fixed-signed.zip
thanks,i will try it soon
you didnt read ANY of my instructions in order.
ONLY ROM THAT WORKS IS STOCK FENDER ROM< AND YOU MUST REUPGRADE THE SPL AND RADIO AFTER FLASHING RECOVERY.
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ONLY ROM THAT WORKS IS STOCK FENDER ROM< AND YOU MUST REUPGRADE THE SPL AND RADIO AFTER FLASHING RECOVERY.
I cant not SCREAM enough about how pointless rooting this phone is for your first time. I cannot belive the amount of people who decided to run out and get this fender mytouch just to root it.
there are no other roms, radios or spls that work correctly witht his rom.
Once a new rom comes out, you will have to repeat the process.
Just stop people.
If you cant get into fastboot or recovery.. or adb doesnt see it at all underl logcat, then its bricked and you didnt follow instructions at all.
Hi all
I feel like i am going round in circles trying to get my 32b magic rooted. Ive tried all sorts of methods even buying relentless rooter magic, but after lots of helpful emails i was told i have a perfected spl1.33.0007.
I was then told my problem would be solved by creating a gold card. I did this following the unlockr guide. Then went back to trying to use relentless rooter but I still cannot get the phone rooted.
I would appreciace any guidance at this point as I really dont know what else to do. Some of the help people give is great but it assumes a certain level of android knowledge that I have not got and will not ever have.
Thanks in advance fellas. I hope you can help as I love my phone
Regards
Del
have you tried follow these instructions?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
to make sure your not on perfect spl.
for rooting check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133
then you should be able to fix it
Sorry to be stupid but where do i get the following from?
* an non-perfected SPL (preferably an engineerings SPL).
* a ROM with a version that is HIGHER than your current ROM version.
Im sure this is all straighforward stuff to all you guys who do this all the time but it just seems like one obstacle after another for me
Thanks again for the help
i don't know much about the 32b version, but the second thread i posted to you is the one to use, try read very good the first post in it, cause the first thread i posted he tells 32b user to go to the second thread, so try study the second thread thats what i can do to help, hope you find something in it.
Again please excuse my stupidity but i have not a clue what ROM is appropriate for my phone. This is the problem that I always encounter, that others assume that your level of knowledge is comparable to theirs. I know im not a total moron but this is a whole new language to me and the last thing i wanna do is ruin my phone. It seems the more i read on forums etc the more i get confused as there are a seemingly infinite array of different methods to get your phone rooted.
well can you provide info on which spl radio you have now first?
He mentioned in the original post he had perfected spl1.33.0007.
How about telling us what you did with the goldcard process, what happened and what went wrong? Any errors received that you can tell us etc will help us to help you.
just wondering cause he messed with the phone after getting the info of perfected spl so just wanted to be clear what there is to work with so he can get a working good phone
I followed the gold card process on the unlockr webby and all went fine. No issues there at all.
Im now stuck as to what to do next. I bought relentless rooter software and the guy on support has been helpful. Just wondering what my next port of call should be. Like I said im no Mr Android but Im not totally clueless either. I would just like it if someone could tell me what should be the correct/best/simplest procedure for getting my phone rooted and getting the best/closest ROM to 2.0/2.1
Sorry to be a pain but there is so much info out there its really difficult to determine whats right and whats wrong.
BTW Ive got 2 magics so if a totally brick one, Ill know to definitely stop. Unfortunately they both have the same spl
Thanks again in advance
Just tried another method from the relentless support. Ive put SAPP.nbh on my goldcard and restarted with vol down and power. Tried to apply the image and got an error of
model id incorrect!
Update fail
Do you want to reboot device?
any more advice please?
first off im not trying to be a **** here... but..if your having this much trouble rooting, and you admit you dont know much, then why are you bothering rooting??
if you root and get a custom rom on your phone, you will NEED to know how to update said rom, as you will not get support from your carrier.
rooting is not hard, there are MANY guides out there that hold your hand and walk you threw rooting, installing rom ect ect...
for you i would recommend cyanogen mod (www.cyanogenmod.com) JUST because it is stable and works great.. i dont think you want a rom like super d , cdsi , fasttest or something like that where you will probably have to update your rom somewhat often.
please see this guide and READ it fully, its not hard to understand or to follow....just make sure you are on a 32B, if you are not then this guide will not work..
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
also you are looking for a rom that is 2.0/2.1, first off they are not fully functional, there are issues with all 2.0/2.1 roms out there (some are great dont get me wrong, but in my mind not fully functional) so again i would recommend cyanogenmod its based on 1.6 but has bits and pieces of eclair(2.0) in it. before you try a 2.0/2.1 rom i would say get root first, run cyanogenmod and go from there..
again.. im not trying to be a ****.. but it really isnt hard rooting.. and hearing you say you dont know anything is kind of rediculous.. i came into the android scene not knowing anything, its easy to learn if you want to, if you want the easy way out without learning then dont root...
edit: Im sorry i sound harsh, but i still stand behind what i said.. please please please try the cyanogenmod wiki guide, and also please post EXACTLY what sys ver your running, which carrier your on, and confirm please the SPL..
i started out knowing nothing too, but reading and do what guys say in their guides gets you far, and when keep wanting to tell in every post (i know nothing) is kinda saying, don't use custom roms cause if something goes wrong, you will be more fustrated and angry on the android system (also not trying to be rude, but think about it, do you really want to root?)
In the normal course of events I am capable of following the simple instructions found on forums like this to do whatever I need. In the past I have chipped my xbox and flashed my 360, but I am really struggling with my phone. The reason I went for the relentless piece of software was because it was supposed to be simple.
As far as I was concerned I was having a problem following the instructions until I was told I had a perfected SPL. Thats why I had so much difficulty in the past getting it rooted. I thought using relentless might help me out in that respect. It didnt.
So I then find out that I need to create a gold card. Got that sorted ok, then proceeded with the root process. All systems stopped again as I get model id incorrect error. I posted on here to see if anyone else was having the same problems and would be willing to help.
I am really thankful for the suggestions so far and if anyone has any more I will endevour to use them. But my main problem is that there is so much info out there its difficult to work out whats right and wrong especially if you are encountering problems like I am. Ive seen many videos and read many tutorials on how to root so I know it should be straightforward but that has not been my experience thus far
have you tried the wiki link i posted??
start over.. forget everything you have done.. and try that wiki link..
again we need to know your phone model, carrier, spl and sys version(android 1.5, 1.6, ect ect) to move forward if you still are stuck..
Thanks again for your help
My phone is a UK Vodafone Magic 32B
1.33.0007
CPLD-10
Radio- 2.22.19.261
Its running on cupcake and wouldnt update OTA when it was sent out last year
Just reading through that wiki now. Thanks again for all your help. I really appreciate it
also see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640229&page=2
delboypb said:
Thanks again for your help
My phone is a UK Vodafone Magic 32B
1.33.0007
CPLD-10
Radio- 2.22.19.261
Its running on cupcake and wouldnt update OTA when it was sent out last year
Just reading through that wiki now. Thanks again for all your help. I really appreciate it
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You need to make certain that your gold card was made properly. My first attempt at making a goldcard failed for no reason what so ever. The second attempt went fine on the same micro sd card. I would follow the directions of using Flashrec. That process has been flawless due to the fact that it takes advantage of a bug in Android 1.5. It's easy as long as your goldcard was made properly. Good Luck
p.s. once your able to flash an engineering/non-perfected spl, Leave It Alone.
I had the same problem with mine, couldnt find a guide that works on a uk Voda Magic
I used this and it worked great:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.p...o_CyanogenMod#Spanish_Vodafone_1.6_NOT_rooted
Use the guide for Non-TMobile 32B Magics
sapphire pvt 32b ship s-on g
hboot-1.33.0007 (sapp30000)
cpld-10
radio-2.22.23.02
jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
main version is older!
update fail!
do you want to reboot device?
action yes
power no
tmobile mytouch 1.6 just a regular mytouch not 1.2 ( fender)
i had rooted about 12 mytouch ( tmobile usa) and never had any problem till now,
i did the gold card using theunlockr how to.
and i still get the same error.
not know what to do to get this done.
i just can't downgrade to 1.5.
thanks.......................................
I finally pulled my head out of my ass last night/early this morning and got a handle on what i needed to do. And now I have a rooted magic with a shiny new hero rom on it. Very pleased with myself. Now off to try to get the second one done. Fingers crossed
Thanks everyone for all your help and patience. Its really appreciated
Back to square 1 again. After the excitement of havig a working root and displaying a rather lovely hero rom, I though all was well. So I decided to have a crack at rooting my other magic. During the process which was unsuccessful this time my original rooted decided to shut itself down for no apparent reason. Whe i tried to reboot it would get to the splash screen and no further even though it had been working perfectly happily just hours before.
Any help please?
The details are:
32b ENG S-OFF h
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
I rooted using the gold card method and flashed with a hero rom. All the instructins taken from theunlockr.com as I couldnt get the cyanogen wiki instructions to work.
I did try the cyanogen wiki method having already rooted using gold card, but that phone also stops at the splash screen after flashing bot images. I waited several times for 15mins+ but nothing
I would really appreciate some help mainly on my first issue
Thanks in advance
Well, my screen/buttons seem to be going bad. Tried a number of different Roms, and the home button just doesn't work consistently and the screen tweaks out too often.
So I have to take it to T-Mobile to have them fix it. I guess this is pretty common?
Question is...how do I get this thing back to stock? Stock Rom, Stock Radio, S-On, Stock Splash Screen (T-MOUS).... I did a search on the forum for "Stock Rom" and that just brought up the entire Android Development forum haha...
Any help is appreciated.
This might help it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1228648
You can also just follow the same guide that you did to get s-off to get s-on, there's instructions in that thread for it, that's the way I did it when my wifi wasn't working.
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You can also just follow the same guide that you did to get s-off to get s-on, there's instructions in that thread for it, that's the way I did it when my wifi wasn't working.
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Doing that, I can get a stock Rom on there, and can probably get S-Off pretty easily, my big problem right now is getting stock Recovery on there. I followed the steps in the link above, but its not working... At this point I"m just wanting to get the thing fixed so I can sell it on ebay. The Sensation has been quite a disappointment I think. The HD7 is overall a better phone I think.
Start at Step 5 in this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
So I just rooted (only root not turn s-off) my sensation and went to fast and went right away to flash a custom rom. After the boot screen has been on for sometime I look around the threads some more and see that I need s-off to flash custom roms. I didnt make a backup of my rom and it was incredibly stupid of me. I need help. Please let me know what I can do to get ANY version of android running on my phone. I have been searching the forums and will continue to search. Thanks
UPDATE: FIXED WITH THIS GUIDE I JUST FOUND
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1955823&page=3