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will any of this work with the myTouch? im in the US and have one, but havend done anything to it yet. I have a rooted G1, would i be able to use the same JF software? if these are all dumb questions, dont tell me. lol
I was just going to post about this. I cannot seem to get any of the rooting methods to work with this phone. Here is the info:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0006 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
May 27 2009, 19:06:41
Any help would be appreciated.
You can't root the MyTouch 3G due to what haykuro described as a "perfect" SPL.
That's true. Haykuro is saying that it is the perfected SPL on his blog. Don't fret everyone as this just makes dedicated hackers like Haykuro more interested in being the ones to root it.
Go Haykuro Go!!!! I know you've put in hours upon hours of hard work rooting our beloved devices and moving us forward in the field.
Thanks.
That doesn't mean I forgot others who have put hard work in. I just wanted to let Haykuro know as he has been missing from our scene because of the poor treatment or lack of credit when due.
I'm not sure you comprehend what the SPL is since its not as clear for Android as it is for WinMo. The SPL allows you to overwrite the entire system and the modified SPL's allow you to flash unsigned. Now the SPL resides in a part of the device that stores other vital low level software like the radio and such.
In order to flash the SPL, the new SPL has to take the same exact place as the old one using the same exact memory addresses or else it will overwrite the other vital low level like the radio and one incorrect byte in the wrong place could cause you to be unable to make calls, etc.
This is where it gets to be a pain in the ass because the SPL is what allows you to write to low level parts of the phone and more importanly use the USB port as a serial port. If the SPL is flashed badly and you can't communicate via USB anymore you now have brick unless you know JTAG. Another problem is if the radio or anything else overwrites part of the SPL causing a brick.
In other words you will probably be able to achieve root via a software exploit but if the SPL cannot be replaced then you will never be able to flash a new ROM.
Hope that helps. sry for being so long winded
how about after achieving root (via software exploit), we replace the recovery.img with a modified one via adb shell? Is that possible?
(n00b here)
The SPL will not allow it to be written although there may be a solution like fakesigning ROMs using some sort of security hole.
like previously mentioned the SPL will not allow it. So until a great mind like Haykuro finds away of replacing the SPL with a modified one not in an update.zip or a fastboot flash it will not be posible till then. Maybe a nbh file might be possible but currently there is not one that is available for this device yet.
nope cuz .nbh = updates.zip for winmo and works almost the same way
mytouch
rogers started a fund raiser i think we need to start another one?
Has anyone tried using a Goldcard to flash Dreaimg.nbh or another system image? It's been done on the Dream, I don't see why it would be any different on the MyTouch.
Someone needs to figure this out. This is the only thing keeping me from buying a MyTouch. Someone help free me from my loose hinges and inexcusable lack of system memory on my dream...
Hi folks.
I am desperate to get Cyanogens mod on my phone but I can't downgrade to 1.5 because i'm on 1.6 with a UK vodafone Magic (32B).
Any chance a serious andoid expert could step in and tell me:
Will there be a new image made to fix this issue?
is there a method I will understand? It says on the Cyanogen Wiki that there has been "some success" with my version but I can't find where it says how to downgrade for my version
I keep hearing about gold card or summink but i'm a noob and I don't have the foggiest idea where to start.
Please help!! and try to make your responses understandable
Dont worry...
Hi there
I think is possible what you're trying to do, but in order to change your rom you don't need downgrading nowadays (HTC are not PSPs, hehe).
I have a magic from Vodafone ES, and what you have to do first is check your model, can be 32A (HTC) or 32B (Vodafone, less ram in cell phone), so you'll probably have 32B like me.
After this, you need Android SDK and drivers to connect your device usb, load a modified SPL via ADB/fastboot (there's a thread in the forum with the HBOOT collection, you need one of those in your cell in order to change the rom).
Summarizing:
1. check if 32B
2. get Android SDK to use the commands fastboot/ADB
3. replace SPL
4. continue with the cyano's wiki
I followed this: http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=74683 (sorry is in spanish and a bit outdated, but the apps you need like the SDK are in there, and you have some screenshots, you can skip the root part since cyano's mod is rooted already).
About the goldcard method, I dont know because mine hadn't had perfect SPL, I only had trouble with the usb driver, and downloaded HTC sync (look for it on google if you need) and adb/fastboot detected my device.
A good idea is to install a recovery image once you change your SPL, I personally recommend Amon_RA's recovery 1.5.2.
Last but not least, these explanations are the basics, I know it sounds like chinese to you but read more posts in the forum, there's a cyanogen flashing guide as well, with all the information and these steps you'll do fine.
Hope you'll succeed, let me know your issues
I do understand reasonably well but you cannot use the guide on here with a UK magic as the SAPPH.img file or whatever has an incorrect ID. it's at this point the process cannot be completed.
Thanks so much for your lengthy reply but in this case I believe my phone is unique and the problem cannot be be as easily resolved as you suggest. I must downgrade to 1.5.
Are any of the extreme android geeks able to shed light on this?
I can shed light on you as I have a Vodafone HTC Magic 32B. I used the instructions at the link below and got my phone back to Cupcake, but oddly enough I used the MyTouch instructions and searched online for a suitable sappimg.nbh file as the one they provided didn't work for me. Now I am running Qteknology MagicSense Hero ROM with working LEDs. Forget about ADB, SDK and the Goldcard method... I am sure you want the simplest way to unroot so you can get back to 1.5 and the reroot to whatever you like. Here it is: http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-root-a-donut-phone-android-1-6/
This is great news but I have tried that method with the sappimg.nbh and it says incorrect ID every time.
Are you using a UK vodafone magic then? If so, where did you find a SAPPIMG that worked?
Please try and remember!
It doesn't matter that your phone is a UK Vodafone Magic.. if you google sappimg.nbh and download a few until you get the one you need you will have your phone reverted back to it original state... ready to root. If you stop your search after one attempt you will not have done all you needed to do. You don't have to know any codes or get another SD card.. just put some effort into it from your computer. Google is your friend.
but being a bit of a noob to all this, surely trying sappimg files at random might risk bricking my phone? I heard there was a good sappimg for all but my version of the phone which is why I mentioned it.
Maybe someone on here has a sappimg known to work with my phone?
But yes, i'm off to do some intense googling.
Thanks
Hi
I have a UK Voda Magic and I followed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579328 and worked perfectly for me
It truly is lovely of you all to try and help and I appreciate it but I suspect you have not read my comments properly.
Those of you that have commented here were only able to get it to work because you were flashing from/rooting from a 1.5 cupcake build. Once the OTA 1.6 donut update is on a UK magic it cannot be downgraded and so all comments thus far are superfluous. contrary to other comments it is necessary to flash SAPPIMG.nbh first and this does not work on my phone - incorrect CID.
Is there anyone on here that can help with MY issue?
Thanks.
Strange, because I have no issues flashing UK Voda 1.6 phones, just fastboot and use ADB to load recovery image, then flash whatever 32B ROM I like (Dwangs 1.17.1 is great). I did a work collegues before Christmas and his phone had never been modified, only received the OTA update from 1.5 to 1.6 around October time.
I'm on it. That's the way I used to flash roms back when i first got my magic. Now i've been thrown by all the simple guides to put cyanogen and I thought the sappimg method was the only way. I'll just download the sdk and get on my merry way
I don't understand what the issue is? I have a UK vodafone 32B and have been flitting between CM's mods, Hero mods backwards and forwards with no issues whatsoever?
I'm on CM's latest right now (well, a few back now 4.2.11 latest), just followed the instructions and it worked....?
I certainly did read your OP correctly and I also was on 1.6 when I followed the link I posted. In that link it has instructions on how to do it if you are on 1.5 OR 1.6
Started out with 1.5 Vodafone UK Magic which i've flashed many times using the fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img method.
At one time i went back to stock 1.5 but let it update itself (OTA) to 1.6. Since then i've continued to flash new ROMs without problem.
Alfieg said:
but being a bit of a noob to all this, surely trying sappimg files at random might risk bricking my phone? I heard there was a good sappimg for all but my version of the phone which is why I mentioned it.
Maybe someone on here has a sappimg known to work with my phone?
But yes, i'm off to do some intense googling.
Thanks
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hi alfieg
ive vodafone magic 32B with donut and perfect SPL, in present day, I tried all the guides and methods in many forums, without success, for example, if you follow the guide in wiki cyano, already the first step there are problems, how I try to update with sappimg. (cupcake 1.5) as the ends' update writes "main version is older," "update failed "... if you do not then a way to get cupcake is impossible to have root on magic 32b with donut and Perfect spl ....
Indeed in the wiki says, if you have donut Downgrading to 1.5 FAILED: HTC Magic Vodafone ES (Spain) (32B) Official 1.6 updated OTA "
wait a few geek we solve the problem ...
I don't see what the problem is. You should have been reverted back to 1.5 and flashing new ROMs. The instructions are simple.. someone else has done all the hard work.. all you have to do is download a file and hold your phone.
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I don't see what the problem is. You should have been reverted back to 1.5 and flashing new ROMs. The instructions are simple.. someone else has done all the hard work.. all you have to do is download a file and hold your phone.
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download a file, to make what? If you can not root for real?
Will you lot please listen to me!
There are two methods reccommended:
1) Flash the SAPPIMG.nbh to downgrade back to 1.5 - this does not work on a UK magic on vodafone 32B at all! It reports Invalid CID, update failed!
2) use the fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img via the SDK - This does not work on my phone! - I have the device listed when I use "adb devices" so the drivers are ok but it hangs at <Waiting for device> when i try to fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img!!!!!! No ammount of killing the server and remounting as per the cyano instructions works!!!!! in fact, it wont let me remount (Operation not permitted)!!!
If you don't understand please don't post. People who have not updated to 1.6 OTA and people who don't have a UK voda 32B - stop posting here.
Grrrr
No need to downgrade
Alfieg said:
Hi folks.
I am desperate to get Cyanogens mod on my phone but I can't downgrade to 1.5 because i'm on 1.6 with a UK vodafone Magic (32B).
Any chance a serious andoid expert could step in and tell me:
Will there be a new image made to fix this issue?
is there a method I will understand? It says on the Cyanogen Wiki that there has been "some success" with my version but I can't find where it says how to downgrade for my version
I keep hearing about gold card or summink but i'm a noob and I don't have the foggiest idea where to start.
Please help!! and try to make your responses understandable
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I have a New Zealand Vodafone Magic 32B and they share the same Hboot 1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) SPL with the UK (and NL and AU) vodafone phones. That means they are VERY easy to load alternate ROMs onto. The horrible stuff many Americans and others have to go through to root their phones isn't required for us.
You do need to get the Android SDK installed and talking properly to your phone.
Assuming you have the SDK set up and you can see your USB-connected phone listed when you enter the "adb devices" command, then the rest should be easy. See the Cyanogen Mod wiki for the details. You want the section on "non-Tmobile 32B magics" on this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
It starts with:
"Non-TMobile 32B Magics
If the above doesn't work for you, don't despair. Some non-US Magics are shipped with a fastboot compatible SPL installed. If you see 3 skateboarding androids when you boot to fastboot, you should be able to do the following:"
..............
This is the part you want to pay attention to, assuming you have the SDK installed properly. Our phones are actually MUCH easier to load others ROM on because we have those fastboot-enabled SPLs already in place and this is the first, BEST way for us to do it.
Whatever you do, do NOT flash the "Danger SPL". There is no need to for an HTC Magic with the Hboot 1.33.0004 (SAPP10000) SPL.
If you're hopelessly lost at this point, seek hands-on local help. You don't know enough to do this by yourself without risking screwing up. if no one can help you, then take your time. Learn the stuff you need to know....Being in a hurry is a great way to go wrong. I spent 3 months reading and thinking about it before I loaded my first ROM. Much of the advice is for the Dream / G1 or locked MyTouch3G or Magic 32B phone from telcos who lock them....and simply isn't relevant for the HTC Magic 32B from Vodafone. the single section I'm pointing you to above is all we need to get it done.
Finally, here is my own "simple guide" for getting loading alternate ROMs on a Vodafone HTC Magic 32B. This is about OUR phone...and should work if you work your way through it.
http://truthseekernz.blogspot.com/2009/11/simple-guide-to-loading-new-roms-on.html
You don't need to worry about "gold cards" and all that stuff. You'll be flashing an already rooted ROM and you will have backed up your un-rooted original load with "nandroid" before you change ANYTHING. That backup is your path back to the way your phone was before you rooted it by flashing an already rooted system ROM. in loading ROMs like Cyanogen's you're not baking a cake, you're buying one....so you don't need to know how to make one, you just need to know where to get one and how to serve it....if that analogy makes sense.
Simply, you start by: fastboot boot RA-recovery-1.5.2G.img:
Then, from the recovery menu of functions you do these steps:
1. Backup (nandroid)
2. Wipe system / data
3. Wipe cache
4. flash from any zip on sdcard (the one you want to flash today, you may have put several different ROM images in /sdcard)
5. reboot to brave new world.
6. Make a backup copy on your PC of the /sdcard/nandroid folder on your sdcard so you won't lose it accidentally if your sdcard is corrupted, lost or stolen.
Done.
To save time and let you backup / flash ROMs anywhere you happen to be standing, you can flash Amon-RA's recovery onto your phone or you can load it via fastboot every time and leave the default recovery in place. The very first nandroid backup you made will have backed up the factory recovery image as well as the factory system image as they were at the time you backed them up. So they can be restored if you want to at some point update them with an OTA update. I suspect Vodafone / HTC will be rolling out an Android 2.0 / 2.1 update to Magic phones at some point. If they don't that would be a black mark against them....something to remember when thinking about buying any future phone from anyone: "WILL THEY SUPPORT IT FOR THE SAME 2 YEARS YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR".
If the answer isn't YES......then that's worth remembering. Vodafone / HTC's record so far is good. The last OTA update was barely 3 months ago.
Alfieg said:
Will you lot please listen to me!
There are two methods reccommended:
1) Flash the SAPPIMG.nbh to downgrade back to 1.5 - this does not work on a UK magic on vodafone 32B at all! It reports Invalid CID, update failed!
2) use the fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img via the SDK - This does not work on my phone! - I have the device listed when I use "adb devices" so the drivers are ok but it hangs at <Waiting for device> when i try to fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img!!!!!! No ammount of killing the server and remounting as per the cyano instructions works!!!!! in fact, it wont let me remount (Operation not permitted)!!!
If you don't understand please don't post. People who have not updated to 1.6 OTA and people who don't have a UK voda 32B - stop posting here.
Grrrr
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Get latest version of fastboot binary. I had problems with original one and htc magic. Drop fastboot.exe into the sdk tools folder.
Reboot your phone holding back and power simultaneously.
Then plug usb cable.
in Dos prompt go to sdk tools folder and type "fastboot devices"
if your device is listed you are good to go.
then "fastboot boot cm-recovery-1.4.img"
Universal Androot confirmed working. This method is no longer needed and is to dangourous for some people so please use universal androot 1.5.3+
IF READ CORRECTLY YOU WILL NOT BRICK. BUT, Since a few of you dont have that ability, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU BRICKING YOUR PHONE. There are no pros to rooting this phone yet, leave it alone if you dont know what your doing PLEASE. I beg you. You are in essence almost bricking your phone in order to root it in the first place. These arent fun and games, It is dangerous to rush this stuff
Listen.. Im more then happy to help people. BUt I fully understand why so many devs have left this place. Some of you are so utterly ridiculous with your questions, wanting someone to hold your hand. I cant sit on gtalk for hours helping you go through what should take 10 min , I have a life and kids and other things to do. I did this because I was bored and wanted to see if I could. There is not point in rooting it yet, there are no roms, nor will there be for at least a month. Please, if you cant even understand simple questions, have never rooted or even used an android phone before, please.. do not bother me. This place is insane with stupidity. I will change the tutorial in a little more detail later, but fo rnow, DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YORU DOING. IF YOUR BREAK YOUR CRAP< I DONT CARE, BECAUSE IT WASNT MY FAULT.
I am in no way an angry or mean person, but you people have given me a migraine. I see why all the rom devs hide from here so much
THERE IS NO POINT IN ROOTING THIS PHONE YET PEOPLE, SO STOP.. OMG PLEASE STOP LOL
IT HAS BEEN DONE!!! lol
After 3 days, sleepless night and 5 min from returning the phone, Together with the Awesome Cursordroid We have achieved full root of the fender mytouch/ Mytouch 1.2 revision.
Now.. Understand.. not many will have the fender Mytouch.. but this is the hardware they WILL be using in the fully confirmed Mytouch 1.2
If you do not follow my instructions fully, NOTHING WILL WORK.
Start by making a working gold card, pay VERY CLOSE attention to what the instructions for making a gold card say
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/14/how-to-root-your-mytouch-3g/
READ READ READ. DO NOT download the SAPPimg.zip file it says on that page.
Get the top fixed SPL file 2010 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4332591&postcount=1
Once you have you working goldcard (remember, apply to PHYSICAL not LOGICAL) rename the fixed SPL/rom you just downloaded to SAPPIMG.img
Put that file on your gold card
Hold volume down while hitting power
You will boot into Hboot, and if goldcard was made correcly and file is in root, it will begin to read. MAke sure battery is full or chargeing. follow on screen directions for flashing. Reboot into Hboot.
You are now screwed with a downgraded SPL and radio that do not work on this phone YAAAAAAY.
Now grab the stock radio and SPL from Cursordroid here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5451898&posted=1#post5451898
From there on follow hiw directions for reupdating your radio and spl, plus give yourself a new recovery making ROOT.
Im not good at tutorials or typing on a tiny netbook keyboard so please forgive. Anyquestions please ask and I will go into more detail
In order
Goldcard
Amen ras fixed spl rom renamed SAPPIMG.img
Boot into Hboot volume down/power
let rom install saying yes to what it says. If it works..
Now boot into your recovery through fastboot
Flash phone with stock fender rom
reboot into fastboot
back out of update when it asks and flash STOCK radio and SPL back, now reboot
your splash screen for fender IS GONE, get over it. You can make a new one later if you realllly need to.
if you build the thread they will come, oh yes, they will come.
thebluecoat said:
if you build the thread they will come, oh yes, they will come.
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lol.. I figured if I could get a thread up with all our info, maybe I could get more people interested just for the fact hat nothing now works... which means this could be the same build in the coming Mytouch 1.2 that is basicly the same exact phone as the fender.
hey, im new here but i have a rooted g1. and i've been skimming thru the fender pages.
I also work at tmobile and used my discount to snag the fender. but as of now im still using my rooted g1 which currently has a tiny scratch on it which i cant stand "hence why i got a fender".
seems to me once the new mytouches come out with the 32a and 3.5 mm jack there will be more attempting to pwn his phone.
im still fairly new to all of this soo im tryin to soak up as much knowledge as i can.
but still w/o the root. the fender still is a sweet phone haha.
idk what to do with it, it just sits in my room i havent even put my sim into it yet. im deciding either to sell it or just let it sit until it can be rooted.
i use the wireless tether too much to switch to the mytouch.
in the mean time g'luck! kinda rough for us LE owners cuz only few people have it to play around with.
This might be noob as I am not 100% sure what perfected SPL means, but I had a SPL that gave the fastboot "no remote" error.
I used an official SEA RUU that comes with a ENG SPL, then I could update change what ever I wanted.
Thought I would just through it out there.
My phone is a model A6161.
Make a goldcard.
Then try to find an official HTC RUU with version higher than 2.08.531.1 but which has an open SPL or is only Cupcake so 1-click-root will work.
If that doesn't work just try a regular sappimg.nbh, but with goldcard too.
maxisma said:
Make a goldcard.
Then try to find an official HTC RUU with version higher than 2.08.531.1 but which has an open SPL or is only Cupcake so 1-click-root will work.
If that doesn't work just try a regular sappimg.nbh, but with goldcard too.
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The problem is after days of reading and trying 5 different sapp.img every file gets the same device id failure. But I do understand having to find a higher number rom so Ill start on that quest.
So basicly what you saying is I need to find a pre rooted "offcial" rom that has and eng SPL allready or a 1.5 rom with open spl?
Ill try the 1.5 cupcake idea because the goldcard methos so far doesnt seem to work but that would make sense if we are trying to use to old a versions to root.
Looks like I have a new project for the day lol
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The problem is after days of reading and trying 5 different sapp.img every file gets the same device id failure. But I do understand having to find a higher number rom so Ill start on that quest.
So basicly what you saying is I need to find a pre rooted "offcial" rom that has and eng SPL allready or a 1.5 rom with open spl?
Ill try the 1.5 cupcake idea because the goldcard methos so far doesnt seem to work but that would make sense if we are trying to use to old a versions to root.
Looks like I have a new project for the day lol
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I've already tried that, didnt work for me, got "Invalid device ID" however, I cannot make a gold-card because I always get "damaged sd card" or windows says I need to format it right. I'm 100% sure I did it right to three different SD cards, and I still got the same error.
--edit-- if you successfully make a goldcard for this phone, Ill pm you for shipping info LOL!
crypysmoker said:
The problem is after days of reading and trying 5 different sapp.img every file gets the same device id failure. But I do understand having to find a higher number rom so Ill start on that quest.
So basicly what you saying is I need to find a pre rooted "offcial" rom that has and eng SPL allready or a 1.5 rom with open spl?
Ill try the 1.5 cupcake idea because the goldcard methos so far doesnt seem to work but that would make sense if we are trying to use to old a versions to root.
Looks like I have a new project for the day lol
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I think, your current way will not end with success.
Wrong model id or device id means, that HTC decided pick out Fender in another serie. Yes, i agree, that Fender has same SPL as Magics, but trying flash anything, that has another model id like trying flash Hero's ROM to Tattoo.
SPL ia like a computer's BIOS. SO if you flash foreign bios - your comp will probably die....
Saddened by the fact that Fender is limited edition. So it will not have big knowledgebase like Magic.
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I think, your current way will not end with success.
Wrong model id or device id means, that HTC decided pick out Fender in another serie. Yes, i agree, that Fender has same SPL as Magics, but trying flash anything, that has another model id like trying flash Hero's ROM to Tattoo.
SPL ia like a computer's BIOS. SO if you flash foreign bios - your comp will probably die....
Saddened by the fact that Fender is limited edition. So it will not have big knowledgebase like Magic.
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While the Fender is le, the mt3g 1.2 is the same hardware, so hopefully someone will get it figured out.
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While the Fender is le, the mt3g 1.2 is the same hardware, so hopefully someone will get it figured out.
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Oh. Chances growing up.
I'm new here, but typically how do people go about getting the attention of devs? Is it just create a thread an hope enough people show interest? Should we do a roll call of how many actually are interested in rooting this phone?
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I've already tried that, didnt work for me, got "Invalid device ID" however, I cannot make a gold-card because I always get "damaged sd card" or windows says I need to format it right. I'm 100% sure I did it right to three different SD cards, and I still got the same error.
--edit-- if you successfully make a goldcard for this phone, Ill pm you for shipping info LOL!
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No.. I got the gold card made. The only reason it ever comes up as damged or reformat is because you applied the goldimg to the logical drive which is at top of list as opposed to Physical REMOVABLE DISK at the bottm. Its the only time I can get the error. but if I apply the goldimg to the logical drive it makes a perfect goldcard everytime. I tested it on aspar g1. So... its not a godl card problem lol
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Make a goldcard.
Then try to find an official HTC RUU with version higher than 2.08.531.1 but which has an open SPL or is only Cupcake so 1-click-root will work.
If that doesn't work just try a regular sappimg.nbh, but with goldcard too.
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Looking through here for HTC RUU roms I seem to keep geeting dragged to the hero and WinMob forums which I dont think I should be. Where exactly would I find this?
My ideas are..
Find a rom of higher version that is rooted see if it works.
Find an older 1.5 build (which is proving hard) and go from there
Try and flash the rooted fender donut over it and see the results.
My main problem with this is, I dont think its able to be downgraded past 1.6.. Just like newer PSP's cant be downgraded to 1.5
After formatiing my 2gb sandisk (which may be the problem) now when using the 98mb SAPPIMG.zip I get "Main version is older" instead of "Device id failed"
Is this a good sign to on the right track? Im going to try the 62mb SappIMG.zip from amon ra's tut as soon as its done downloading and see if theres a difference.
Now.. what does main version is older mean? The firmware or the spl/radio. if so... is there a newer version i can use/or substitute a file for the Sappimg.nbh to just install a higher version rom.
Man.. The G1 is so much easier to do all this with lol
YEEEEES. Ok. I freaking fracking diddley did it. OMG i was sooo scared.
Wooo So happy now.
I unable to update my OP and thread title if a mod can help me with that.
If noone minds I am going to post my first ever tutorial on something. this was a real pain but I am up and running on Amon ras latest rom for now. On to the recovery....
EDIT-- Got a fully functioning Manups 2.1 1.5 going. THEBLUECOAT if you want to know how to do it PM me... Otherwise give me about an hour or so and I will have a full tut posted
AHHH.. EVEN worse.. I noticed now that it says I have a 32b board NOOOO
EDIT2- Such a dumbass I didnt make a backup of the orignal. Poop.. I liked the boot image and music apps. I just wish I could figure out why all roms so far dont recognize the touch screen as being there and want me to use the track ball. Even power button has 1 option Power off lol
UMMM touch screen not working. What didnt I do?
How do I get my SDCARD to not show up under logical, its under logical but the drive says "removable disk" all I have are phones to use, would this not be possible or would I need a driver replacement
thebluecoat said:
How do I get my SDCARD to not show up under logical, its under logical but the drive says "removable disk" all I have are phones to use, would this not be possible or would I need a driver replacement
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you HAVE to use a card reader. thats where your problem has been. You have to use a card reader so that it sees the reader AND the card seperatly. So in hex, you dont see Logical drive then a row and then Physical and a row?
Im not pissed... I had the 2010 eng spl... trying to flash roms. No rom would use touch screen. so started over and ened up with a 32 b board now and a perfected spl again.... lol Argh... trying through it again now.
crypysmoker said:
you HAVE to use a card reader. thats where your problem has been. You have to use a card reader so that it sees the reader AND the card seperatly. So in hex, you dont see Logical drive then a row and then Physical and a row?
Im not pissed... I had the 2010 eng spl... trying to flash roms. No rom would use touch screen. so started over and ened up with a 32 b board now and a perfected spl again.... lol Argh... trying through it again now.
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Ok, so how did you get the spl changed? and what did you flash that was 32b?
chrys9989 said:
Ok, so how did you get the spl changed? and what did you flash that was 32b?
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I used Amen ras newest Fixed spl fix 1.33.2010, made my gold card, renamed that file to SAPPIMG.zip, went into Hboot and it flashed without a problem.
I then rebooted into Hboot seeing the new Info.. Didnt look at the 32a/32b part yet so not sure if it happened there.
It then rebooted into whatever rom that file came with (look for Amen ras Fixed spl thread) the rom came up, with no tocu screen. only the track ball worked.
I rebooted and stupidly jumped right into flashing a couple of the new clair builds from king and.. the othe rguy lol. neither had touch support. I then went back to update to manups newest and used the 32a port file, and no touch screen...
I then rebooted and flashed the amen ra rom and rebooted into a Mytouch boot loop... went into Hboot and had a perfected spl and S-on. ARGH.
Just started from scratch again. Im really wondering why i loose touch screen support and why in the hell it say 32b now
Hi everyone,
Been trying to root my phone since yesterday and had a bit of trouble. Now it seems that the SPL I have is a perfected one as I am unable to use fastboot for recovery.img (not allow error).
This is what I have:
Sapphire PVT 32A Ship S-ON H
1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD 12
Radio 6.35.10.18
Is there a way to change this SPL at this time? I know there are ways for older ones but I wasn't sure that I should be changing to an older SPL (and risk bricking my phone) so I thought I'd ask first!
Any advice/input greatly appreciated.
furie said:
Hi everyone,
Been trying to root my phone since yesterday and had a bit of trouble. Now it seems that the SPL I have is a perfected one as I am unable to use fastboot for recovery.img (not allow error).
This is what I have:
Sapphire PVT 32A Ship S-ON H
1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD 12
Radio 6.35.10.18
Is there a way to change this SPL at this time? I know there are ways for older ones but I wasn't sure that I should be changing to an older SPL (and risk bricking my phone) so I thought I'd ask first!
Any advice/input greatly appreciated.
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Yeah that's a perfected SPL. I assume Recovery Flasher doesnt work? If you can't use Recovery Flasher then you are out of luck until someone can break into those phones.
Keep in mind the hero recovery is the only one that works with the 6.x Radio.
Arrrgh!!! I'm tempted to go to the Rogers store and exchange my Magic for another one (without the upgrade on it). I still have 8 days to do so according to Rogers policy...
chances are you'd get another with perfected spl.
This is how i got mine working from perfected spl->custom rom
If you want a different rom, dont follow the last 2 links, and find whatever you want to flash, after the first 2 links you will have a non-perfected spl and be able to flash whatever your heart desires.
There are easier ways to do this if you are not running windows 7. Apparently theres a way using htc sync, but i cant get it working, even with all of the fixes that people have claimed work for them
PurpleFries said:
u can have a sense ui running on 1.5, if you are only concerned with how it looks. Just flash the cursorsence rom, if u have 32a phone. ensure u dont have a perfect spl. If you did the rogers dream->magic switch, likely you have a 32a phone with 1.33.0010 perfect spl. you must get rid of this first.
here's some links to help you out as i did this process yesterday. took me a helluva long time.
Goldcard Method
Fix perfected spl using this goldcard
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT RADIO AND SPL!!!!!.
Radio and spl upgrade
Cursorsence
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For the video in that link, watch up until the point where he tests the goldcard by putting it back into his computer to see if it opens. You don't need to follow his instructions past there
PurpleFries said:
chances are you'd get another with perfected spl.
This is how i got mine working from perfected spl->custom rom
If you want a different rom, dont follow the last 2 links, and find whatever you want to flash, after the first 2 links you will have a non-perfected spl and be able to flash whatever your heart desires.
There are easier ways to do this if you are not running windows 7. Apparently theres a way using htc sync, but i cant get it working, even with all of the fixes that people have claimed work for them
For the video in that link, watch up until the point where he tests the goldcard by putting it back into his computer to see if it opens. You don't need to follow his instructions past there
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Thanks, I'll give that a try. I'm actually using Windows 7 so I'll have to do it that way.
Does it matter that my SPL is 1.76.0010 rather than 1.33.0010?
umm.
Actually im not 100% sure. Kuz i know messing with the radio and spls can be problematic if you flash them incorrectly... I personally would go straight to flashing These instead of going to 1.33.2007
maybe wait for someone more experienced to comment, kuz radio and spl being flashed wrong will result in a brick
PurpleFries said:
umm.
Actually im not 100% sure. Kuz i know messing with the radio and spls can be problematic if you flash them incorrectly... I personally would go straight to flashing These instead of going to 1.33.2007
maybe wait for someone more experienced to comment, kuz radio and spl being flashed wrong will result in a brick
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Its 1.76.2007 not 1.33.2007. For now u need some practice at stage 1 - keep your original radio & spl. Otherwise like u said yourself, BRICK!
Got the HTC Magic upgrade through Rogers...
Perfected SPL
Since they still use 1.5 (yet they claim they care about security, lol) RecFlash works a charm.
Install RecFlash, slash RA's Recovery, then use it to flash the ROM.
w00t!
furie said:
Hi everyone,
Been trying to root my phone since yesterday and had a bit of trouble. Now it seems that the SPL I have is a perfected one as I am unable to use fastboot for recovery.img (not allow error).
This is what I have:
Sapphire PVT 32A Ship S-ON H
1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD 12
Radio 6.35.10.18
Is there a way to change this SPL at this time? I know there are ways for older ones but I wasn't sure that I should be changing to an older SPL (and risk bricking my phone) so I thought I'd ask first!
Any advice/input greatly appreciated.
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I have the same config as you are. I used procedure from theunlocr.com. "HTC Magic one click". Now Im on 2.1
The one on my sig is my Dream the one I rooted to 2.1 is the Magic (free HU)
asiano said:
I have the same config as you are. I used procedure from theunlocr.com. "HTC Magic one click". Now Im on 2.1
The one on my sig is my Dream the one I rooted to 2.1 is the Magic (free HU)
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you sure I try and it doesn't allow me to backup or to upgrade...
I'm on the new rogers spl... the 1.76.0010.
can you give alittle more detail how you have rooted?
Thank you
fatcow167 said:
you sure I try and it doesn't allow me to backup or to upgrade...
I'm on the new rogers spl... the 1.76.0010.
can you give alittle more detail how you have rooted?
Thank you
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Yes please share, I'd like to go to 1.6 or 2.1 too!
fatcow167 said:
you sure I try and it doesn't allow me to backup or to upgrade...
I'm on the new rogers spl... the 1.76.0010.
can you give alittle more detail how you have rooted?
Thank you
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me and asiano both did the same thing, just follow this here procedure:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-root-the-htc-magic-in-one-click/
I've tried that method with the new rogers update (SPL 1.76.0010), and it doesn't seem to work for me. The flashrec website even states it doesn't work with firmware released after November '09. Are you sure you had the new update when you rooted using this method?
XC3N said:
me and asiano both did the same thing, just follow this here procedure:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-root-the-htc-magic-in-one-click/
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yes but i think you don't have a perfected spl, we are not able to root because our spl version is 1.76.0010... can you confirm you got the same?
I have an updated Rogers ROM and Goldcard will not work with the current ENG SPL. Outdated
Same with me. Stuck on this ROM. I think whomever says they were able to get root with 1 click method or flashing the Engineering SPL did not have the same setup as those of us who are stuck. I've devoted about 20 hours so far to getting root again. None of the methods are working, and yes I'm following the directions to the letter. This is really starting to piss me off.
Is there anyone working on trying to root this new Rogers update ROM? It seems like most of the people who do this stuff have moved on to the Droid and N1. Do we need to start a fund to entice one of the people who rooted the other ROMs to come back and revisit Rogers 1.5 Sense? I'd throw $10 US into the pot.
Any other ideas?
im in!
10$ US, im in!
I'm in for $10
God I hate Canadian cell providers.
Can the phone still be unlocked to use on a different carrier though??
10$
Totally in. 10 bucks is a small price to pay for a rooted phone.
Hi all
I feel like i am going round in circles trying to get my 32b magic rooted. Ive tried all sorts of methods even buying relentless rooter magic, but after lots of helpful emails i was told i have a perfected spl1.33.0007.
I was then told my problem would be solved by creating a gold card. I did this following the unlockr guide. Then went back to trying to use relentless rooter but I still cannot get the phone rooted.
I would appreciace any guidance at this point as I really dont know what else to do. Some of the help people give is great but it assumes a certain level of android knowledge that I have not got and will not ever have.
Thanks in advance fellas. I hope you can help as I love my phone
Regards
Del
have you tried follow these instructions?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
to make sure your not on perfect spl.
for rooting check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133
then you should be able to fix it
Sorry to be stupid but where do i get the following from?
* an non-perfected SPL (preferably an engineerings SPL).
* a ROM with a version that is HIGHER than your current ROM version.
Im sure this is all straighforward stuff to all you guys who do this all the time but it just seems like one obstacle after another for me
Thanks again for the help
i don't know much about the 32b version, but the second thread i posted to you is the one to use, try read very good the first post in it, cause the first thread i posted he tells 32b user to go to the second thread, so try study the second thread thats what i can do to help, hope you find something in it.
Again please excuse my stupidity but i have not a clue what ROM is appropriate for my phone. This is the problem that I always encounter, that others assume that your level of knowledge is comparable to theirs. I know im not a total moron but this is a whole new language to me and the last thing i wanna do is ruin my phone. It seems the more i read on forums etc the more i get confused as there are a seemingly infinite array of different methods to get your phone rooted.
well can you provide info on which spl radio you have now first?
He mentioned in the original post he had perfected spl1.33.0007.
How about telling us what you did with the goldcard process, what happened and what went wrong? Any errors received that you can tell us etc will help us to help you.
just wondering cause he messed with the phone after getting the info of perfected spl so just wanted to be clear what there is to work with so he can get a working good phone
I followed the gold card process on the unlockr webby and all went fine. No issues there at all.
Im now stuck as to what to do next. I bought relentless rooter software and the guy on support has been helpful. Just wondering what my next port of call should be. Like I said im no Mr Android but Im not totally clueless either. I would just like it if someone could tell me what should be the correct/best/simplest procedure for getting my phone rooted and getting the best/closest ROM to 2.0/2.1
Sorry to be a pain but there is so much info out there its really difficult to determine whats right and whats wrong.
BTW Ive got 2 magics so if a totally brick one, Ill know to definitely stop. Unfortunately they both have the same spl
Thanks again in advance
Just tried another method from the relentless support. Ive put SAPP.nbh on my goldcard and restarted with vol down and power. Tried to apply the image and got an error of
model id incorrect!
Update fail
Do you want to reboot device?
any more advice please?
first off im not trying to be a **** here... but..if your having this much trouble rooting, and you admit you dont know much, then why are you bothering rooting??
if you root and get a custom rom on your phone, you will NEED to know how to update said rom, as you will not get support from your carrier.
rooting is not hard, there are MANY guides out there that hold your hand and walk you threw rooting, installing rom ect ect...
for you i would recommend cyanogen mod (www.cyanogenmod.com) JUST because it is stable and works great.. i dont think you want a rom like super d , cdsi , fasttest or something like that where you will probably have to update your rom somewhat often.
please see this guide and READ it fully, its not hard to understand or to follow....just make sure you are on a 32B, if you are not then this guide will not work..
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
also you are looking for a rom that is 2.0/2.1, first off they are not fully functional, there are issues with all 2.0/2.1 roms out there (some are great dont get me wrong, but in my mind not fully functional) so again i would recommend cyanogenmod its based on 1.6 but has bits and pieces of eclair(2.0) in it. before you try a 2.0/2.1 rom i would say get root first, run cyanogenmod and go from there..
again.. im not trying to be a ****.. but it really isnt hard rooting.. and hearing you say you dont know anything is kind of rediculous.. i came into the android scene not knowing anything, its easy to learn if you want to, if you want the easy way out without learning then dont root...
edit: Im sorry i sound harsh, but i still stand behind what i said.. please please please try the cyanogenmod wiki guide, and also please post EXACTLY what sys ver your running, which carrier your on, and confirm please the SPL..
i started out knowing nothing too, but reading and do what guys say in their guides gets you far, and when keep wanting to tell in every post (i know nothing) is kinda saying, don't use custom roms cause if something goes wrong, you will be more fustrated and angry on the android system (also not trying to be rude, but think about it, do you really want to root?)
In the normal course of events I am capable of following the simple instructions found on forums like this to do whatever I need. In the past I have chipped my xbox and flashed my 360, but I am really struggling with my phone. The reason I went for the relentless piece of software was because it was supposed to be simple.
As far as I was concerned I was having a problem following the instructions until I was told I had a perfected SPL. Thats why I had so much difficulty in the past getting it rooted. I thought using relentless might help me out in that respect. It didnt.
So I then find out that I need to create a gold card. Got that sorted ok, then proceeded with the root process. All systems stopped again as I get model id incorrect error. I posted on here to see if anyone else was having the same problems and would be willing to help.
I am really thankful for the suggestions so far and if anyone has any more I will endevour to use them. But my main problem is that there is so much info out there its difficult to work out whats right and wrong especially if you are encountering problems like I am. Ive seen many videos and read many tutorials on how to root so I know it should be straightforward but that has not been my experience thus far
have you tried the wiki link i posted??
start over.. forget everything you have done.. and try that wiki link..
again we need to know your phone model, carrier, spl and sys version(android 1.5, 1.6, ect ect) to move forward if you still are stuck..
Thanks again for your help
My phone is a UK Vodafone Magic 32B
1.33.0007
CPLD-10
Radio- 2.22.19.261
Its running on cupcake and wouldnt update OTA when it was sent out last year
Just reading through that wiki now. Thanks again for all your help. I really appreciate it
also see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640229&page=2
delboypb said:
Thanks again for your help
My phone is a UK Vodafone Magic 32B
1.33.0007
CPLD-10
Radio- 2.22.19.261
Its running on cupcake and wouldnt update OTA when it was sent out last year
Just reading through that wiki now. Thanks again for all your help. I really appreciate it
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You need to make certain that your gold card was made properly. My first attempt at making a goldcard failed for no reason what so ever. The second attempt went fine on the same micro sd card. I would follow the directions of using Flashrec. That process has been flawless due to the fact that it takes advantage of a bug in Android 1.5. It's easy as long as your goldcard was made properly. Good Luck
p.s. once your able to flash an engineering/non-perfected spl, Leave It Alone.
I had the same problem with mine, couldnt find a guide that works on a uk Voda Magic
I used this and it worked great:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.p...o_CyanogenMod#Spanish_Vodafone_1.6_NOT_rooted
Use the guide for Non-TMobile 32B Magics
sapphire pvt 32b ship s-on g
hboot-1.33.0007 (sapp30000)
cpld-10
radio-2.22.23.02
jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
main version is older!
update fail!
do you want to reboot device?
action yes
power no
tmobile mytouch 1.6 just a regular mytouch not 1.2 ( fender)
i had rooted about 12 mytouch ( tmobile usa) and never had any problem till now,
i did the gold card using theunlockr how to.
and i still get the same error.
not know what to do to get this done.
i just can't downgrade to 1.5.
thanks.......................................
I finally pulled my head out of my ass last night/early this morning and got a handle on what i needed to do. And now I have a rooted magic with a shiny new hero rom on it. Very pleased with myself. Now off to try to get the second one done. Fingers crossed
Thanks everyone for all your help and patience. Its really appreciated
Back to square 1 again. After the excitement of havig a working root and displaying a rather lovely hero rom, I though all was well. So I decided to have a crack at rooting my other magic. During the process which was unsuccessful this time my original rooted decided to shut itself down for no apparent reason. Whe i tried to reboot it would get to the splash screen and no further even though it had been working perfectly happily just hours before.
Any help please?
The details are:
32b ENG S-OFF h
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
I rooted using the gold card method and flashed with a hero rom. All the instructins taken from theunlockr.com as I couldnt get the cyanogen wiki instructions to work.
I did try the cyanogen wiki method having already rooted using gold card, but that phone also stops at the splash screen after flashing bot images. I waited several times for 15mins+ but nothing
I would really appreciate some help mainly on my first issue
Thanks in advance