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Which phone ...

Ok, so I have a decision to make, and only till Wednesday to make it ...
Currently, I have the Palm Treo Pro. It's a GOOD phone, I LOVE the keyboard and I love how small/light it is. I DO NOT like the proprietary USB of the "end" key as its uber sensitive. Also, most of my programs don't work on the screen (OliveTree Bible, Mud Inc. Pocket Cribbage, and Handmark Monopoly V1) ... so my other options are
HTC Diamond - I get $ back, but, I lose microSD Card or HTC Pro, I pay around $100 more, but I get the microSD Card slot and sliding keyboard.
WiFi is important, and I should point out, I am on the TELUS Network.

HTC touch Pro 2
There are many same subject threads on XDA with further information....

galaxys said:
HTC touch Pro 2
There are many same subject threads on XDA with further information....
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hmmm TP2 ain't on Telus ... not yet ... not till the end of '09 / early '10 when they turn on their UMTS/HSPA

kepp this phone until tocu pro 2 comes out

One more for TP2
Is not the "Perfecrt" device but is one of the best candidates available

THIS IS NOT THE TOUCH PRO 2! This is the Touch Pro. Version 1. Telus Mobility DOES NOT HAVE TP2 yet and won't till probably December or January ...

I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.

_Allan_ said:
THIS IS NOT THE TOUCH PRO 2! This is the Touch Pro. Version 1. Telus Mobility DOES NOT HAVE TP2 yet and won't till probably December or January ...
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On thatcase just erase the 2, I´ll go for TP!
kareem9nba said:
I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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You are right mate

kareem9nba said:
I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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I can't wait 14-18 months for the TP2 (which is about how long Telus will take to get it *L* as they have ONLY had the Treo Pro for about a month!) ... I think I'll go on Wednesday and get the Touch Pro.

Then why don't U buy it unlocked from another country next month

Because Telus is CDMA but soon (2010) to be UMTS/HSPA

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hmmm TP2 ain't on Telus ... not yet ... not till the end of '09 / early '10 when they turn on their UMTS/HSPA
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Where on Earth do you live???? Sahara??? Middle of the Atlantic ocean?
Ok some usefull info for you:
Diamond - has serious heat issues and its very well know to fry its own screen. HTC are constantly fighting people and refusing to repair faulty units. I owned one and then returned it as it could also not play music without jumping/skipping. Both these issues can be easily found by going to the Diamond section of these forums.
TouchPro - (not the TP2 as everyone else seems to have got confused over) Never owned one so comments are limited to what can be read on this forum but, I miss having a keyboard and am now ordering an Asus on Monday that has a keyboard. Typing an email on the Diamond was a pain in the a*&e and its only marginaly easier on the bigger screen of my Omnia.
Palm thingy - never owned one, never used one. Can't comment.
If I HAD to chose between these then in all honesty, i'd probably keep the Palm! Why? HTC build quality sucks donkey balls. Its a well known and easily googled reputation. Its a shame really as they spec out the phones very well and seem to have every intention of making excellent devices, just somewhere the penny pinchers seem to take control and quality drops.
Best of luck with whatever you chose today
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Diamond overheat issue - dont think anymore needs to be said on this
Music link - with $125 reward for fix
Music link - check out how many pages!
And just for good measure, another music link
Very quick google brings up over 32000 hits on hardware quality

galaxys said:
Then why don't U buy it unlocked from another country next month
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Maybe the guy doesn't have/want to spend hundreds of £/€/$ on a phone?

OK so ... I was downtown yesterday, getting my Security Guard License and walked through Toronto Eaton Centre ... and I picked up the Touch Pro.
So far, I'm happy. I'm still testing things out and seeing what is good etc but ALL my games work, all my programs work AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED to, and I'm happy ...

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Maybe the guy doesn't have/want to spend hundreds of £/€/$ on a phone?
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Especially a phone that only does 3G at 2100MHz to use in a country that uses 850/1900.

Which phone do you guys recommend?

Hi guys,
After having my Uni for a good while now and the HTC Monet before that, I've gotten quite attached to the whole smartphone shebang. I've got some cash to spend on a new one though, and was hoping that some of you guys could give me advice on what to get. I've picked a few that appeal to me, and any other suggestions in the same price range would be great.
I wouldn't object to second hand phones but only if they're good quality (like Computer Exchange's A-grade) and almost as new.
Right now, I'm thinking:
HTC Dream - Not a beautiful thing, but I'd like to see whether I prefer Android or WinMo; what's the general consensus on this?
HTC S740 (Rose, I think)
HTC Diamond
HTC Raphael
If I could choose one of these phones to have right now, it would definitely be the Raphael as it has everything I want (touch screen, QWERTY, GPS) and more. But there's a pretty large price difference between this and the others, and I don't know if it's worth another £100+ more than a Diamond just for the QWERTY keyboard and an FM radio.
The Diamond is one of my favourites, but after having a Uni for so long I'm a bit scared of having to tap out texts with the touch screen only - is this easy?
That problem is solved with the S740, however I don't really want to have to use WMS and a smallish screen for everything.
One final question as I'm a still a slight n00b - the AGPS systems don't cost anything to run after you buy something like TomTom 7, right? I'm not on a great contract and 3G access would cost me, so I don't want to keep having to access Google Maps or something every time I want to find my way around.
Anyway, thanks for reading. Sorry if I accidentally aggravated you guys by posting in the wrong board.
I added a poll too because it might make answers easier and, well, it looks pretty.

I'd get HTC Rose.
The best keyboard imo. The only other phones with keyboards that beat the crap out of it are HTC Touch Pro2 and Nokie E90.

Thanks, but how much would I miss out on with WMS?

Get the latest & greatest: the Touch Pro 2! See the Rhodium forum section for details...

As much as i would love a shiny Touch Pro2, there's no way I can afford it, both on contract and alone.
Maybe I should wait and see if the original Touch Pro gets any cheaper once the 2 is out...

poetryrocksalot said:
I'd get HTC Rose.
The best keyboard imo. The only other phones with keyboards that beat the crap out of it are HTC Touch Pro2 and Nokie E90.
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Forgot to mention the best keyboard ever: Universal one!
even with its 4 years old the size of the keys and its confortability and size make it the best to this date!
ben_duder said:
As much as i would love a shiny Touch Pro2, there's no way I can afford it, both on contract and alone.
Maybe I should wait and see if the original Touch Pro gets any cheaper once the 2 is out...
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If you are patient enough you can get a tp with a very low price, just wait till december when 2010 models go anounced and you´ll see!
consumism has a good side as all gets old very very fast...
by the way tp2 is out since a month or so!
if you need a keyboard the best option is tp from your list

Thanks Orb. Yeah, I have pretty much fallen in love with the keyboard on the Universal and it's the reason why I want a decent one on whatever I buy next. I sort of wish I didn't ask about the TP getting cheaper, because I want it now . Stupid impatience. Isn't Windows Mobile 7 supposed to be released in 2010? Maybe it would be worth waiting for that if it has multi-touch and things. I assumed that stuff won't work on most (if not all) existing handsets(?).
While we're talking, how much do you like your S621? I know a guy who got one when someone else upgraded, and he basically has no idea what it is nor how to use it. I was thinking of buying it cheap and messing with it a bit (I'm not considering it as a possible new phone).

ben_duder said:
Thanks Orb. Yeah, I have pretty much fallen in love with the keyboard on the Universal and it's the reason why I want a decent one on whatever I buy next. I sort of wish I didn't ask about the TP getting cheaper, because I want it now . Stupid impatience. Isn't Windows Mobile 7 supposed to be released in 2010? Maybe it would be worth waiting for that if it has multi-touch and things. I assumed that stuff won't work on most (if not all) existing handsets(?).
While we're talking, how much do you like your S621? I know a guy who got one when someone else upgraded, and he basically has no idea what it is nor how to use it. I was thinking of buying it cheap and messing with it a bit (I'm not considering it as a possible new phone).
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If you wanna wait for wm7 then prepare to pay more for a device wich has it included!
I asume that it´s a matter of budget, so wm7 will not be cheap when its launched (I don´t think we see it before Sept 2010)
As for noble S621 I think a reasonable price (depending on the conditions) is around 100-150USD, it´s a great smartphone, but have a look on marketplace before you make your desicion, as you can find very good deals on used devices from trustable members.
Good luck then,

Oh, I definitely can't be bothered then
Someone will probably get something working on the popular devices anyway.
I think it's actually an Exaclibur (S620) but it has an AZERTY keyboard because it wasn't from the UK, and I could probably buy if from him for about £15 if I'm lucky. Although, it is a bit scratched.
I'll probably end up going for the original Touch Pro, maybe now or maybe when it's cheaper. Anyone got any cheap and good sites/shops? Except for things like eBay and Computer Exchange.

Yeah it´s the Excalibur S621 or S620 is almost the same.
If you can buy it for 15 pounds please let me know where!
I want one really!
Have you visited marketplace section on this forum?
I would go 1st than to go any other site as you can find good deals!
I just bought a Touch Pro @ good price.
let me know about the cheap excalibur please, I´m interested.
Cheers,

Okay, thanks for the tip.
I've asked about whether or not the Excalibur is up for grabs, but I think the keyboard is AZERTY rather than QWERTY (I don't know what they use in Mexico).

we use qwerty but I can get used to new layout...
still interested!

Cool, I'll tell you when I get a reply but it's possible that I won't be able to get my hands on it until September. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for your TP?

Ok
Let me know
PM sent with your question

Thanks. So I guess the general idea is just to save up for a Touch Pro. And hopefully AGPS is free

which Android to buy kindly advise

hi
Hi sorry if this is the wrong place to as this question but kindly advise
im planning to buy anew Android phone preferably a HTC(no offense to other brands its just the feeling that a known devil is better than an unknown angel that's all i have been using HTC for around 2yrs and absolutely no problem till date)
i was looking at the tatoo but it seems to be same as my jade with android but it seems to be the only affordable for me so can any one kindly advise on which one to buy
i would have been really happy if i could get android os for my jade but it seems to be an impossibility as of now and my crazy itch to buy anew phone and a android is kinda taking over(the wife is gona kik my A**)

Well, if I Were to make a speculation without being biased.. I would say Flash 10 is coming soon enough and according to Adobe the only 2 android phones strong enough to run the full package are the Nexus and the Moto Droid. All the other models (HTC etc.) are running flash light which is a half baked memory hog.. 'but it works'.
Also, 99% of the applications/mods I have seen are working on the Droid or compiled specifically for the droid.
In the case of you being a 'I dont want to or need to root' person I would say simply... If your going to build a computer.. would you build a 486 or a pentium 3 OR would you build something that will at the least run the current existing and immediate next gen software?
Hope Ive helped you out.

HarshReality said:
Well, if I Were to make a speculation without being biased.. I would say Flash 10 is coming soon enough and according to Adobe the only 2 android phones strong enough to run the full package are the Nexus and the Moto Droid. All the other models (HTC etc.) are running flash light which is a half baked memory hog.. 'but it works'.
Also, 99% of the applications/mods I have seen are working on the Droid or compiled specifically for the droid.
In the case of you being a 'I dont want to or need to root' person I would say simply... If your going to build a computer.. would you build a 486 or a pentium 3 OR would you build something that will at the least run the current existing and immediate next gen software?
Hope Ive helped you out.
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hi
thanks for ur kind reply but both the phones u mentioned are quite costly in India for them to come down on price i need to wait for may be 6 months but based on ur advise i think it is worth it so ill wait for some time and get one of the two u have advised
thanks buddy for ur kind reply and advise

HarshReality said:
Well, if I Were to make a speculation without being biased.. I would say Flash 10 is coming soon enough and according to Adobe the only 2 android phones strong enough to run the full package are the Nexus and the Moto Droid. All the other models (HTC etc.) are running flash light which is a half baked memory hog.. 'but it works'.
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If the OP wants HTC, why not the Desire? Aiui HTC make both the Nexus for Google & the Desire under their own brand; the two are virtually identical wrt hardware, with the Desire being described by some as the Nexus with HTC's Sense ui added. OTOH the Nexus might get more timely updates than HTC's phones.

cauli said:
If the OP wants HTC, why not the Desire? Aiui HTC make both the Nexus for Google & the Desire under their own brand; the two are virtually identical wrt hardware, with the Desire being described by some as the Nexus with HTC's Sense ui added. OTOH the Nexus might get more timely updates than HTC's phones.
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hi
thanks for ur kind reply but both the phones u mentioned are also quite costly as they have been recently introduced in my country ie India
so i think i will wait for another 6months usually their is a big drop in price around that time
thank for ur kind advise

a X10i would do the job right

x10 is good now, but will get even better with android 2.1 or 2.2!
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ballubas said:
x10 is good now, but will get even better with android 2.1 or 2.2!
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Except that 2.1 will be released in september.

I would advise not to get the Nexus One. The Nexus One has broken multi-touch (because of the sensor that it uses), poor build quality (touchscreen messing up, weird tint on the touchscreen, paint chipping off, etc), and is showing its age already in the USA.
The HTC devices may have flash lite now (I'm talking about the ones that have HTC SENSE) but they are upgradeable to the latest full flash 10.1 once it comes out.
I would go with the HTC Desire or HTC Legend for now but in the USA T-Mobile USA will release the MyTouch Slide (made my HTC) and it will have the same specs as the Nexus One except it will have a 600 mhz processor versus a 1 ghz processor but it has an external keyboard. If you want that, then you can buy it unlocked.

thanks to all who replied
hi
thanks to all who have been kind enough to reply
but looks like all the phones u have advised on are currently too costly in my country(India) around 400 -500$ roughly its kinda costly for me so i have no other option to may be wait for some time till they do come down in price and it does happen all new phones come down on price in about 3-6 months of their intro but thanks guys it was very very nice of you to give me ur kind advise but i dont know why but if i buy i think it would mostly be a HTC brand some how im very happy with my experience with this brand
thanks again guys so nice of you to give me such nice advise

Simple choice...
HTC Desire. IMHO.

I ordered a SIM free HTC Tattoo today. I have 8 months left on my current 18 month contract with my SE W995 which does pretty much most of what I need however I wanted a phone I could use Spotify on and maybe a few other apps. I was torn between the iPhone (yes I know...) and the HTC Desire, both of which I would need to buy SIM free for £400-£450 but in the end I opted for the HTC Tattoo which while limited in specs compared to my other options it'll still do every thing I need from at at only £180! I may get a new phone when my contract ends, but for now I wanted something inexpensive.

would it cost too much to invest in the Motorola Milestone?
thats the out-of-the-US counterpart to the Droid. same hardware but running Android 2.0.1
just throwing that out there.
also, I'm sure you could find a MyTouch or another htc smartphone on eBay for quite cheap.
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You know... good phones are bound to be expensive ...
I'm in a country with similar situation as yours (billions of people!) and I can fully understand the pain you are suffering: want to buy a fair device with reasonable prices.
HTC phones are not cheap at all. Try find a Italian version Dream in gray market. It it old and not fully-functioned like these mentioned above, but its price is also cheaper:250USD in my country with much of the playable features.
Sorry for my poor English. I'm not a native.

TheOriginalKi said:
I ordered a SIM free HTC Tattoo today. I have 8 months left on my current 18 month contract with my SE W995 which does pretty much most of what I need however I wanted a phone I could use Spotify on and maybe a few other apps. I was torn between the iPhone (yes I know...) and the HTC Desire, both of which I would need to buy SIM free for £400-£450 but in the end I opted for the HTC Tattoo which while limited in specs compared to my other options it'll still do every thing I need from at at only £180! I may get a new phone when my contract ends, but for now I wanted something inexpensive.
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i have the jade same specs as the tatoo but with WM thats why im not looking at it u know its like buying the same phone just for the OS thanks buddy
_AI_ said:
would it cost too much to invest in the Motorola Milestone?
thats the out-of-the-US counterpart to the Droid. same hardware but running Android 2.0.1
just throwing that out there.
also, I'm sure you could find a MyTouch or another htc smartphone on eBay for quite cheap.
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the milesone has just been into in my country and it is costly for me its around (Rs.32,000 ie roughly around 600$ this is costly for me
bear0811 said:
I'm in a country with similar situation as yours (billions of people!) and I can fully understand the pain you are suffering: want to buy a fair device with reasonable prices.
HTC phones are not cheap at all. Try find a Italian version Dream in gray market. It it old and not fully-functioned like these mentioned above, but its price is also cheaper:250USD in my country with much of the playable features.
Sorry for my poor English. I'm not a native.
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thanks buddy i do undestand that i could also get one cheap in the grey market but some how i prefer to buy the orignal with Warranty
thanks guy this is what i luv about this forum u ask for advise and people are always willing to give good advise and i see this happening more in this forum than any other forum i visited i luv this forum
but right now it looks like i gota wait for some time to buy android
and the worst part almost all HTC phone can run android but the touch3G

but right now it looks like i gota wait for some time to buy android
and the worst part almost all HTC phone can run android but the touch3G
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Actually, these days, it seems that everything anyone wants to do or figure out has been done before.
There is always a way around something.
Proxies, budgets, wants/needs. I'm pretty sure you could get an unlocked iPhone 3G and run Android on it (via OpeniBoot) or go with an unlocked T-Mobile G1. I'd definitely give you any spare android-running phone I had if I had an extra..... I'm sticking to the droid for as long as I can.
Also, try googling around or asking in Yahoo Answers- I'm pretty sure there's someone out there who is a non-horder who just happens to have a spare Android phone. Sorry for your luck My problem is that I can't use my awesome Droid outside of the U.S. (hence why I mentioned the Motorola Milestone, as that would really come in handy for me)

_AI_ said:
Actually, these days, it seems that everything anyone wants to do or figure out has been done before.
There is always a way around something.
Proxies, budgets, wants/needs. I'm pretty sure you could get an unlocked iPhone 3G and run Android on it (via OpeniBoot) or go with an unlocked T-Mobile G1. I'd definitely give you any spare android-running phone I had if I had an extra..... I'm sticking to the droid for as long as I can.
Also, try googling around or asking in Yahoo Answers- I'm pretty sure there's someone out there who is a non-horder who just happens to have a spare Android phone. Sorry for your luck My problem is that I can't use my awesome Droid outside of the U.S. (hence why I mentioned the Motorola Milestone, as that would really come in handy for me)
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hi
thats very nice of you thanks for the same but its just a question of time and im sure id get my self some android phone u see prices do crash in my country ie india ill just wait for it to crash eg i got my jage(touch3G) for 420$ 6 months back and now its 340$ thats how it crashes here so ill wait and get mine u see i suffer from a great mobile craze so im bound to change it soom
and yes the wife is gona kik A$$

[Q] Which cellphone u think can be used for a long time?

I know the cellphone’s technology change quickly,but I’m really tired to change cellphone.I have used the Simens,Sharp,Samsung before,but all of them have many problem.So do u have any idea of which brand’s cellphone can use as long as it can?

If you're going to get an Android device and have a bit of patience, I'd say wait until Q4 2010.
I know it's a huge pain (heck, I've been playing the waiting game for years now) but it is obvious that a big technological leap is on the way: higher resolution, dual-core processors, better display technologies and Android 3.0 (which means no longer being dependent on OEMs). It's the first time in years that I can look at cell phone specs and say "Hey... this actually looks relatively futureproof".

Nokia candybar phones last a long time, and my htc blueangel has been used daily since 2004, and still works fine

ARSteven said:
I know the cellphone’s technology change quickly,but I’m really tired to change cellphone.I have used the Simens,Sharp,Samsung before,but all of them have many problem.So do u have any idea of which brand’s cellphone can use as long as it can?
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more complex devices= more power and more bugs.
I know MANY people in proffesional environements that are still using old Nokia 61xx/62xx phones. These monochrome display phones still do about 9 years on 1 charge and allow you to read "War and Peace" on the talk time.... oh and they don't crash either and never require rebooting!
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HTC Leo!!!
Capable of running Android too

Moto phonese last forever. I have one that programs music in midi, they;re really hardy as well. If you just need to make calls, this is a good brand to get.

Thank u guys!I just hesitate with Nokia and HTC...btw,where u guys think is better to buy the cellphone?I mean cheaper and good quality..In store or online shop?

ARSteven said:
....!I just hesitate with Nokia ...
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What? You mean you don't want a 10 year old phone? WHY???
I doubt you will beat an online price but that would depend very much on your country I guess?

i bought a iphone from an online marketplace whose name seemd to be Topons, and it is still used without any problem though it is cheap.lol... am I a lucky guy?

If it's the genuine device and not some knock-off then I don't see why a phone obtained from any source would be more reliable than any other (assuming the same software etc.).

Probably a blackberry.
The problem with the iphone is you cannot remove the battery.

I kind of feel this thread is a lost cause.
Phones (all tech for that matter) will keep being replaced. You cant buy future proof technology! A top end PC is good for what a year? two years?
A mobile phone a year if your lucky, half a year...?
A TV a few years before something better?
You cant buy a phone now, that will not be 'under-spec' in as little as two years time!
The question you should ask your self is do you really need a more 'powerful' phone, or could you live with what you have now for the next few years?
I own a HTC HD2, and I can honestly say I'll want a new, more 'powerful' phone in a few years to play higher quality video, better games ect.
But do you want that?
My dad is 'tech savi' but hes still using a Sony Ericsson K800i. Because it does everything he needs! (having said that he is getting a desire this year... lol)
As for the build quality, you'd be lucky to find any phone that wont be dead after a few years use! Unless your super careful...
Having said that, that K800i has had a hard life and still works perfectly and looks fine...
Its all about what you need from your device. Technology will just keep advancing.

katherinehill said:
i bought a iphone from an online marketplace whose name seemd to be Topons, and it is still used without any problem though it is cheap.lol... am I a lucky guy?
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NO, you got an iPhone, that could never be considered lucky

Flippy125 said:
NO, you got an iPhone, that could never be considered lucky
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Post = epic win

I still see people using moto razr's, even razr2's. If your not a phone geek and just want a decent reliable phone to make calls and text on, those seem to be the most popular.
I agree with the above post also, if you want something a little more 2010 and future proof, a Blackberry is a good choice too.

It's best to go for the phones that are the most advanced now, such as the nexus one, desire, iPhone 4 and such, cause they will get updates for a long time, and it will be some time before they become out-dated beyond use. For example, the Nexus One and the HTC Desire shall be able to use Android 3.0, Gingerbread, while the others won't.
And go for something like Android, cause with the ROMs and such that are out there, you can easily change its ROM and it will feel like you've bought a new mobile.

katherinehill said:
i bought a iphone from an online marketplace whose name seemd to be Topons, and it is still used without any problem though it is cheap.lol... am I a lucky guy?
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a cheap iphone?I think iphone are all the same price,are you sure that you are not buy a fake one?

Gaby5078 said:
I am using Davismicro Hiphone 4GS Quad Band Dual Cards with Wifi Analog TV Java GPS Touch Screen Cell Phone(F073) for about one year. It is cheap and has great functions. What kind of mobile phones do u want?
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Is Hiphone better than IPhone?and where you buy it?

ARSteven said:
Is Hiphone better than IPhone?and where you buy it?
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I think hiphone is not better than iphone,it's just a replica iphone.you can buy it in many China wholesale website,like:banggood.com

htc s310 for at least 3.5 years
i have been used htc s310 since i'm a freshman in college, now i am doing my post degree research, it works well now.

Best starter android phone?

So I'm looking to get my first android powered device , my question is what do you guys suggest to be a good phone for my first experience? Looking at spending around $500 usd budget (will go over for something I really like, but no $800 desire hd stuff lol), and don't want something "out of date" or have a poor build quality.
here is some info to go off of:
-I am not eligible for a upgrade so will pay retail
-In the us
-at&t carrier, no data, so any at&t specific phones are out of the question
-have wifi in vehicle and anywhere I go (one main reason I don't have a data plan)
-like a big screen and or keyboard since my hands aren't exactly small
Thanks in advance for any help. Also one more question that I haven't found the answer for, I saw a marketplace while signing up but cant view, what are the requirements to view?

p.s. I think this might belong in the Q and A section...

my first smartphone was the palm pixi a fantastic OS but then went to htc hero id say thats now a beginners phone
now im with an epic

You could probably score a used Nexus One on eBay or Craigslist for $500.

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You could probably score a used Nexus One on eBay or Craigslist for $500.
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That is one thing that I've thought about, I've also looked at the htc desire, its a little more then other phones but i like the design and the extra ram it offers.

I think nexus one. Just my .02

Thanks for the responses, I guess I need to start hunting for a good condition nexus one. Am I correct for saying that you can not buy them new anymore?

if you can get one (UK only afaik), the Orange San Francisco seems to be a good phone to start with, at about £90.
It's the ZTE Blade, and has an HDPI (high res) screen and reasonable CPU etc.
Worth a look if you can lay your hands on one.

zte blade has a nice exterior, probably one of my favorites so far . But the processor seems a little slow (clock wise), anyone have any experience with how well the Qualcomm MSM7227 competes with say a snapdragon or samsung hummerbird cpu?

id get a nexus one or desire, there not too expensive anymore and have ample power to keep up with technology for the next couple of years, the hero is good but its starting to show its age now, it depends what you want, the nexus one is better built imo but the desire has more ram and an optical trackpad instead of a trackball

Just remember if you do purchase a T-Mobile Nexus One - and you end up getting a data plan down the line.. your stuck on Edge forever while on AT&T's network.
There are AT&T Nexus One's out there.. but your going to be paying a premium.

AndroHero said:
id get a nexus one or desire, there not too expensive anymore and have ample power to keep up with technology for the next couple of years, the hero is good but its starting to show its age now, it depends what you want, the nexus one is better built imo but the desire has more ram and an optical trackpad instead of a trackball
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Is the trackball like blackberrys dumb trackball? I hated that thing with a passion when I tried to use it (even though touch screen means I will rarely use it). I have never used a optical trackpad before. Is it like say running your finger on the bottom of a laser mouse? I know it is kinda bad analogy.
avgjoegeek said:
Just remember if you do purchase a T-Mobile Nexus One - and you end up getting a data plan down the line.. your stuck on Edge forever while on AT&T's network.
There are AT&T Nexus One's out there.. but your going to be paying a premium.
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Yes, I have been looking around on craigslist and what not, t-mobile ones in mint condition run about $400, while ones bought straight from google run about $450, which I would want anyways so I don't have all the tmobile bloatware from the get go.

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Yes, I have been looking around on craigslist and what not, t-mobile ones in mint condition run about $400, while ones bought straight from google run about $450, which I would want anyways so I don't have all the tmobile bloatware from the get go.
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Dude... removing bloatware takes every bit of 10 minutes. I'm assuming that you're going to root anyways, so just save yourself $50.

So you can remove it? Did not know that. Yes I will root it, but I just wont our of the box because of a laziness factor lol. (atleast im truthful )

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So you can remove it? Did not know that. Yes I will root it, but I just wont our of the box because of a laziness factor lol. (atleast im truthful )
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Easily, and the chances are that any custom ROM you flash will be already purged of bloatware.

The Nexus One is a great starter phone. I personally started with a cheap G1 I found on craigslist. The owner had bought a new phone and didn't know about modding and even after I told him he wasn't interested in doing it. After a while I traded up and got the Nexus One.
The good thing about the T-Mobile version of the N1 is that if you do decide to get data service, and you're okay with the EDGE speeds (slower than 3G), then you can pay the cheaper price for the data plan. I've heard from here and there of people with the AT&T version of the Nexus One having their phone automatically upgraded to the more expensive data plan because Google must have given them an updated IMEI list for the phones.

Well just a update, purchased a Desire HD. Waiting for it in the mail, I can't wait!