It seems like a very basic function to be able to search the SD card and modify/ manipulate files and folders. Is there not a way to do this sans some 3rd party app?
Files on SD card are not accessible without 3rd party apps, or mounting to your computer.
The idea might have been that applications should take care of their own files on the SD card, and you shouldn't have much of a need to poke around there much yourself. Maybe.
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Okay XDA tenured- please be gentle. I ve searched, but can not find specific answers to my questions. I ordered a 16gb class 6 (currently have class 2), but would appreciate information before making the changes.
1.) Is it possible to leave current apps on the device memory, then set up for apps to SD and then future apps will go to the card?
2) Based on question 1) if it works, when I update future apps on the device, I am guessing they would then uninstall from the device and then install to card?
3) Would it be best for performance to leave all cache on the device memory? Seems like the system would be faster then.
4) What is the meg space difference leaving all cache or moving it?
5) When changing over to apps to SD, is it not kind of like the same constrained system as an iPhone (Plenty of intitial space, but no ability for external storage)? Point being, if all the apps are on the card and you want to listen to or view media on a seperate card, you would not be able to, since the apps are on the "device" card. This is the whole point to my first question. Unless you can copy the app directory path on the card to another card and use as is- just like the card already installed too...
1: Yes, if you follow my tutorial, it has you copy the existing apps to the sd card and if you use my app, the checkbox tells it to do that as well.
2: No apps will be on your device. There's no way to have a hybrid here, it's either all apps on the sd card or none(not actually true but would be a pain in the ass to make symlinks for each app individually and I don't know of anyone who cared enough to actually try it)
3: I have all apps and caches on the sd card and it is running just as smoothly as normal(and with a class 2 sd card!) There might be some slowdown but it's imperceptible to me.
4: With the cache on device it'll vary depending on what apps you have and how often you use them. With everything moved the memory on the device seems to stay permanently at 72-73MB. That said, moving the normal cache(dalvik-cache seems to be ok) is pretty unstable and I wouldn't suggest it unless you really know what you're doing.
5: Yes, unfortunately this whole process relies on the system not knowing the apps are on the sd card so it's pretty strongly tied to one. That said, you could probably get away with different sd cards as long as they also have an ext2 partition with the app, app-private, etc. directories in it. You'd probably have to reboot when switching sd cards but it should be possible(interestingly you could use this to get different settings depending on what sd card you have in)
Thanks!
So basically we have an iPhone in regards to being stuck to device memory and no option for external storage beyond what is on the card.
I guess there are pros and cons to either set-up. App hounds would prefer apps2sd and media hounds may prefer leaving things alone.
If you are an app and media hound, you are kind of stuck juggling media from the card.
Yep. Although as I was talking about, you could theoretically move each app independently and set up symlinks in the /data/app directory for each app, pointing to where it is on the sd card and leave the ones you want on the phone as they are, but that doesn't sound particularly fun.
My SD (the one on the Android, not the SD Card, why the hell did they name it SD?!) is full of junk. In fact, it comes with a load of junk by default.
How do I:
1. Get Android to not pull videos, pictures, and music from games? My gallery, video player, doubletwist, etc is full of stuff like that.
2. Know what I can delete and what I can't? I'd like to clean this place up.
3. How do I find stuff? I mean, is it up to me to make "Music" "Pictures" "Videos" folders for my own sake, and Android just looks everywhere and grabs it?
4. How do I go to my SD Card? In fact, I am 100% sure my SD card has two auto-assigned folders on it and nothing else. I have no idea how to access it or put things on it, and I am also sure my phone does not care that it exists. Obviously my phone's SD has plenty of memory on it, but I don't know why there is even a SD card slot. I was thinking of copying some files onto my SD card to put onto my friend's Android phone, but I am also positive I'd have no idea how to perform what should be a basic task.
So, help me out. What am I doing? And, what apps would I need for question four, or just file browsing apps in general.
I'm confused about what this topic is about.
All the words that would describe what he is talking about are replaced with junk and stuff.
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edit: The captivate assigns the internal sd card as SD:
Delete the "junk"
thehyecircus said:
My SD (the one on the Android, not the SD Card, why the hell did they name it SD?!) is full of junk. In fact, it comes with a load of junk by default.
How do I:
1. Get Android to not pull videos, pictures, and music from games? My gallery, video player, doubletwist, etc is full of stuff like that.
2. Know what I can delete and what I can't? I'd like to clean this place up.
3. How do I find stuff? I mean, is it up to me to make "Music" "Pictures" "Videos" folders for my own sake, and Android just looks everywhere and grabs it?
4. How do I go to my SD Card? In fact, I am 100% sure my SD card has two auto-assigned folders on it and nothing else. I have no idea how to access it or put things on it, and I am also sure my phone does not care that it exists. Obviously my phone's SD has plenty of memory on it, but I don't know why there is even a SD card slot. I was thinking of copying some files onto my SD card to put onto my friend's Android phone, but I am also positive I'd have no idea how to perform what should be a basic task.
So, help me out. What am I doing? And, what apps would I need for question four, or just file browsing apps in general.
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A search would have answered your questions. your SD card memory is the phones main programs memory. IT is where alot of your apps store the data. You can use many apps to as a file explorer it even comes with one. Its called My Files. I use Root Explorer which allows to access Root files and make changes to them. The sd card slot is for....wait for it.......More memory. As for it not seeing the files. there are a few music apps that let you set the folders it scans. Power Amp is the best at the moment IMHO. You can also put a file in the folders that you dont want scanned named no media, (with root explorer you can copy one of these files from the root folders if you can make one.)
with pre existing folders (for apps and such)
create a "new file" in it named " .nomedia " with the . (preriod)
this can be done with root explorer or in windows. create blank text document rename to .nomedia with NO .txt then copy and move to folders.
nothing in that folder or sub folder will be included in media scans
or if it is a personal folder you are creating name it starting with a . (period)
and ya internal SD gets messy. Use external for your files to keep organized!
Wouldn't my SD card (even if it is SDHC) be slower? DoubleTwist is already inexcusably slow with my files on the SD itself, what would it be like on the external?
And yes, I know what the SD is, I was just asking why it was named that.
Bumping this because I am curious about any speed differences, and because I would like my SD Card to matter.
I've poked around but I dont think I found what I am trying to do. I want to mount my SD card like it mounts my phone; install the apps to the device, store the data on the sd card... any way to do this?
You can' do it, honeycomb doesn't support installation on external sd cards for now. Vanilla honeycomb can't even write on external sdcards, for exemple on the motorola xoom. You can read/write on some tablets thanks to the respective manufacturer's 'tweak'.
I dont want to store the apps on the SD card, just the data, downloads, photos taken from the camera, ect. all I see is a Removable\MicroSD folder which I can browse to, read/write to, but I want all the data on my apps to go to it too just like on my phone, so when I wipe, all my stuff is still there (In theory)
They won't be deleted even if they are on the internal storage even after wiping. It acts as a sdcard.
I might be mistaken, but thanks to the honeycomb 3.2 OS update, it IS possible now that they've opened up the API to the developers.
Unfortunately, it actually depends on the application developers to make use of it... Leave some comments on the android market for your apps and maybe they will do it.
i'm probably mistaken. post from a random website regarding new features in 3.2:
Media sync from SD cards, allowing users to load media directly from an SD card to applications which use them
I did not realize that the folder was persistent, that's good to know thanks
Hi, i've just bought a shield tablet after getting absolutely sick of my galaxy tab s 10.5's lagwiz. Few questions i have.
I've been tinkering with screen capture, the files are stored on my 64 gb sd card but i am not able to delete the files. How do i do this? Can i choose a custom save location?
The power button is horrible, is there any way i can install a double tap to wake like feature without rooting?
Thanks
KKK:
If there's no file manager installed, you can only delete files by plugging your tablet into a computer, or by rooting and running SDFix or similar.
Lollipop:
You need to get a file manager to delete files from the sd card if you can't use the stock one. If ES File Explorer doesn't work already with some extra screwing around with the new Google File Pocket or whatever it is, you'll need to reformat your sd card perhaps.
Samsung:
Ironically, your colourful and unnecessary terminology for Samsung's incredible software belies its excellent addition of a file manager that does everything you want to do here.
Only pre installed apps are allowed to write to any of the areas of the SD card by default (without any excessive API requests) in Lollipop, and they aren't allowed to write outside their own directory at all in KKK. There are some other restrictions but I won't go into those here. I think Google was going for an iOS like experience.
Sent from my Galaxy S5
Haha, i'll be honest, you are right, the in built file manager in the tab S was superb. I've managed to fix it, somehow the screen recordings were saved to my sd card and wouldn't delete, not even with various 3rd party file explorers. I just took the sd out and connected it to my PC and now it has deleted. Job done.
Ok, so i am just wondering, although i can delete the screen capture files by taking out my sd card and connecting it to the computer first, surely there must be an option within nvidia share for saved files to be deleted. No 3rd party file explorers allow me to delete the content and i dont really want to take out my sd card each time i want to delete a random screen capture. What if one didnt have a PC, does nvidia expect the SD card to eventually become full and be useless? i dont get it, i must be missing something.
I saw a question here in XDA where a person was asking how his torrent app could save downloads to the external SD card without root, in KitKat. This can actually be done, with many apps.
Surprisingly, there were no answers, except to tell him to root. That is not always the case! I've been saving and writing data to my external SD card since I got my KitKat device and, I am not rooted. I didn't know this was not a well known technique, or I would have posted this information a long time ago. I just did an internet search (to see if it was well known or not) and it came up empty! But, if this method is common knowledge and I just missed it (wrong search criteria, for example), I apologize!
With KitKat, you do not have to be rooted for many apps to be able to write to an external SD card, if you follow Google's guidelines!
Let me explain via an example:
One main requirement is that the app in question can actually see and use the external SD card - some cannot. Also, please be aware, depending upon your device manufacturer, the path examples given in this explanation may vary.
For the example, I am going to use a made-up app called MyTorrent. Let's say MyTorrent has a home-directory of '/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/com.company.mytorrent/files' where it stores its downloads, but you want it to save the downloads to the external SD card instead of internal memory. With many apps, this is easily and completely doable!
To have MyTorrent use the external SD card to save its downloads, you need to first make sure a home-directory was created for MyTorrent on the external SD card. There should be an Android directory on the external SD card, just like there is in internal memory. An app's external home-directory path will look a lot like its internal home-directory path, something like: '/storage/extSdCard/Android/data/com.company.mytorrent/files'. If the app you are setting up does not have a home-directory on the external SD card, just create one manually (use the internal home-directory path as a template).
Finally, just point MyTorrent's download location to its external SD card home-directory! As long as you can select the external home-directory path as the app's download destination, it should work. If this technique doe not work, it is usually because of how the app is written or, you got the external SD card home-directory wrong. Google set KitKat up so that any app has write permission to its own external SD card home-directory.
This is not a perfect answer and does not open up the external SD card for KitKat's use carte blanche, but it will help free up a lot of wasted, limited internal memory.
This method also works for file managers. Unfortunately, only their external home-directory will be available to them, but it is a good place for manual copy-type backups and zips.
Gonna check it out with my torrent. I saw this thing in Snap Camera app, when I wanted to save videos in SD card, but it saved in its directory, not anywhere else.(but I didn't understood that it can only save in its dir)
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Gonna check it out with my torrent. I saw this thing in Snap Camera app, when I wanted to save videos in SD card, but it saved in its directory, not anywhere else.(but I didn't understood that it can only save in its dir)
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I use Flud, and it works fine for me. But, like you reiterated, it must use its own home directory.
BTW, it works (in most cases) the same way with Lollipop, too.