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It seems most reviewers are surprised that the Transformer is selling out. They think perhaps it's the low volume of stock and low price that's the key.
I think the Xoom proved that a "me-too" tablet cannot compete against the iPad and the hype.
Do none of them get the fact that the keyboard dock is actually a key selling point, and not simply an curious add-on?
Using the Transformer in bed or on the couch, undock it. Use it on the desk and pound out some documents, dock it. What's so hard to understand?
Asus took the good things from the Xoom improved them, offered their cheaper model first, and gave a great feature that all may not use, but many may end up with the dock. Offering it for $100 under the cheapest ipad with similar specs (better in most respects actually even an iPad2 wifi has no GPS chip) was just the icing on the cake.
If the dock was simply just a keyboard dock, it wouldn't be such a good selling point, but the fact that it extends your battery life as well, now that to me is whats really driving this demand, that and the dock is very reasonably priced, unlike that stupid Atrix Dock that costs as much as the phone.
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Asus took the good things from the Xoom improved them, offered their cheaper model first, and gave a great feature that all may not use, but many may end up with the dock. Offering it for $100 under the cheapest ipad with similar specs (better in most respects actually even an iPad2 wifi has no GPS chip) was just the icing on the cake.
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with the GPS ship . . the phone doesnt support simcard . . whats the use of this if you're not on WIFI . . i am really curious . . how the commercial shows how a group of kids got lost in the hood and he suddenly took out his transformer and shows the map . . i am really interested in buying this . . but i need to be clear with the internet support (3g/4g) capable?? may be later . . gps navigation system without internet access??
There are navigation apps out there that store maps locally so you don't need internet access. Any app that doesn't, regardless of what device you are using, requires wifi or cellular data services. Any tablet without a 3G/4G radio has the same "issue."
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with the GPS ship . . the phone doesnt support simcard . . whats the use of this if you're not on WIFI . . i am really curious . . how the commercial shows how a group of kids got lost in the hood and he suddenly took out his transformer and shows the map . . i am really interested in buying this . . but i need to be clear with the internet support (3g/4g) capable?? may be later . . gps navigation system without internet access??
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Maybe they have an android phone and they are using it as a wifi hotspot. Anyways, does it matter? Its a commercial.
Those reviewers need to get another job, then. This doesn't surprise me at all - I think that the Transformer will be THE tablet of 2011, assuming a major hardware snafu doesn't crop up on it. They just need to make MORE of them, and soon!
Why? Price. This thing is a steal at $400 - some reviewers refused to believe that the 16GB one would be US $400. Just comparing the tablet portion to the iPad2 -- it's fast, it has a comparable screen (thank goodness), it has a microSD, HDMI out without a dongle, stereo speakers, no walled garden, no iTunes requirement, the Google Marketplace AND it's $100 less. This is a no brainer, imo.
I do think that the dock is not a requirement and I suspect a lot of people won't even buy it or need it. But it is a nice feature and will certainly eat away at the netbook / low cost laptop market.
I'm not really interested in the dock at the moment. It's neat and a great option, but I don't think I'd ever really use it. I've got a Macbook Pro that I keep docked unless I really need to unhook it, so this is my sort of "grab it and go" device, no real need for a keyboard. I jonesing more for that folding case like I had for my gTab.
But I think the dock is what intrigues most people, and that's cool. Anything that gets HC into more hands is good for the OS.
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Maybe they have an android phone and they are using it as a wifi hotspot. Anyways, does it matter? Its a commercial.
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of course it matters . . why show it when it cant really do it . . ur opion dont really matter to my question though . . since you dont have the answer for it.
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There are navigation apps out there that store maps locally so you don't need internet access. Any app that doesn't, regardless of what device you are using, requires wifi or cellular data services. Any tablet without a 3G/4G radio has the same "issue."
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would you please recommend me an app that allows me to store local maps.
i wish asus release a version with sim card
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would you please recommend me an app that allows me to store local maps.
i wish asus release a version with sim card
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There is supposed to be a 3G version coming out. But Asus did the smart thing and released the cheaper wifi only one first.
Honestly I agree with some of reviewers that state the Tab sold out because of so few being stocked. If you've kept your eye on the transformer the last couple days and peoples experiences with ordering it at 3a.m and still not receiving it, then it is evident that ASUS dropped the ball on the transformers launch...
However, once this tablet hits the shelves in larger quantities then I feel after a week or two it well definitely start selling like hot cakes. The first couple weeks it'll be mainly "us" (nerds who actually know about the transformer) to buy it, but after that word of mouth will definitely spark things.
I really hope this tablet gets the sales momentum and recognition that it deserves. Everything that i'v heard so far points to the Asus transformer as the first legitimate/worthwhile android tablet.
I think that the price will drive sales immediately once it's on shelves and hopefully placed close to the competition. Many people will buy it simply because at $399 it's the least expensive option.
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would you please recommend me an app that allows me to store local maps.
i wish asus release a version with sim card
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maybe try Oruxmaps
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Honestly I agree with some of reviewers that state the Tab sold out because of so few being stocked. If you've kept your eye on the transformer the last couple days and peoples experiences with ordering it at 3a.m and still not receiving it, then it is evident that ASUS dropped the ball on the transformers launch...
However, once this tablet hits the shelves in larger quantities then I feel after a week or two it well definitely start selling like hot cakes. The first couple weeks it'll be mainly "us" (nerds who actually know about the transformer) to buy it, but after that word of mouth will definitely spark things.
I really hope this tablet gets the sales momentum and recognition that it deserves. Everything that i'v heard so far points to the Asus transformer as the first legitimate/worthwhile android tablet.
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amen . . lets all wait and see
Copilot works very well with my Transformer.
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Why? Price. This thing is a steal at $400 - some reviewers refused to believe that the 16GB one would be US $400. Just comparing the tablet portion to the iPad2 -- it's fast, it has a comparable screen (thank goodness), it has a microSD, HDMI out without a dongle, stereo speakers, no walled garden, no iTunes requirement, the Google Marketplace AND it's $100 less. This is a no brainer, imo.
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That's what pulled me out from Lurker to Interested buyer. The Xoom IMHO - was priced way too high for a tablet - and the sales volume showed that.
With the Transformer - Performance / Price - the Asus seems to have hit the sweet spot. With premiums features like Gorilla Glass and IPS screen close the deal. I'm looking forward to seeing one on display so I can test it out.
Curious - for any owners - does ASUS load up any bloatware that slows down the device - if somebody might just keep it stock for the long run? If I snap one of these up - I'm not sure I'd try rooting - and having a $400.00 paperweight brick as first root.
I bumped up my budget when I saw this device coming out on the market. Is it a great user experience without the ROOT.
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would you please recommend me an app that allows me to store local maps.
i wish asus release a version with sim card
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No offense but did you just drop out of the sky or what? You do know that before Google Maps or navigation that there were golden oldies like TomTom, Route 66, CoPilot, Sygic, Navicore, Garmin Mobile, iGo just to name a few (available on several platforms from Win Mobile/Symbian/Maemo/Android) that do not require data to navigate you from place to place. Whole map data is stored on SD card (or you can choose sections) or internal storage.
If you want a recommendation for Android, Copilot is awesome as well as Sygic Aura. I assume you're in Thailand, check out their website here http://www.alk.com/copilot/v8-maps.asp .
For Sygic, go here http://www.sygic.com/index.php/en/maps.html .
Does anyone know if ASUS is planning to release a bundled Transformer + Dock for less then $400 + $150? I am somewhat interested in the dock but $150 sounds too much for an occasional use.
Let me know.
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That's what pulled me out from Lurker to Interested buyer. The Xoom IMHO - was priced way too high for a tablet - and the sales volume showed that.
With the Transformer - Performance / Price - the Asus seems to have hit the sweet spot. With premiums features like Gorilla Glass and IPS screen close the deal. I'm looking forward to seeing one on display so I can test it out.
Curious - for any owners - does ASUS load up any bloatware that slows down the device - if somebody might just keep it stock for the long run? If I snap one of these up - I'm not sure I'd try rooting - and having a $400.00 paperweight brick as first root.
I bumped up my budget when I saw this device coming out on the market. Is it a great user experience without the ROOT.
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It's stock honeycomb with some extra app, so no real bloat, and all modifications actually improve usability (so happy it doesnt have the ****ty neon blue HC icons and blue clock and so happy it has a built in screenshot function).
Hello all
I have been given an opportunity to buy this tablet with the dock for not much money. It's second hand but used lightly and in great shape. The price is about 25% lower than the price of a NEW Asus Nexus 7 16GB in my country (no google play store here ).
My main concern is that it could be outdated. I had an Tegra 2 device (optimus 2x) and it was a pain to load any custom roms on it. I could only load Gingerbread roms on it. Sold it very quickly.
Is the TF101 showing its age? Does it run smoothly and are your batteries in good condition after this period? Any problems with apps? Games?
This would be my first tablet, so i'm not very much informed about them. I have been in the market for one a long time (1 year) and this is the first good opportunity I have seen. I would use it mainly for writing at college, some web browsing (flash running ok?) and casual gaming.
So would you recommend it now?
Any problems I should know about?
Only if you get it VERY cheap. And I say that as a TF101 owner.
The Tegra2 SoC is ****. It cannot play back standard 720p scene MKV-files without recording. Much less 1080p. XBMC and similar products don't want to support it because it lacks NEON-support which makes it easy to offload video-decoding to the GPU. Only thing I've gotten to play in a watchable state (but with occasional stutter) is Futurama.
It has also been plagued by unstable firmware updates, random reboots and sleeps of death. Asus has completely abondoned it and no further firmware updates are expected.
Your only chance of getting this tablet past ICS and onto JB (and whatever comes next, whenever that comes) is through third-party ROMs. If you get a model you can root. You may or may not be that lucky. Asus never unlocked the bootloader for the TF101.
So yeah. Unless you get it very cheap ($100 and less, keyboard dock included), I say no. Not worth it. There's much better things you can buy these days.
Its about 270 USD, but keep in mind that the nexus 7 is over 380 USD :crying:
Basically you will be paying 75% of the price for 25% of the goods.
You will be paying almost full price for a discontinued product instead of one still receiving updates, and one being ensured good support, both from AOSP/Google and from the Android community.
At this price, you will regret buying it.
Again: I say this as a current TF101-owner.
Get the serial number, and make sure it is Not a 3G variant, haggle it down to 200-225 and it would be worth it IMO.
ONLY if you rooted and made it custom though.
I have a N7, and I had a TF (until it died)
Personally they work nearly the same except for video playback. Videos with the proper kernel did work, just not HD without stutter. Games and other things are wonderful. (Of course assuming you rooted and rommed it, both of mine are/were)
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Get the serial number, and make sure it is Not a 3G variant, haggle it down to 200-225 and it would be worth it IMO.
ONLY if you rooted and made it custom though.
I have a N7, and I had a TF (until it died)
Personally they work nearly the same except for video playback. Videos with the proper kernel did work, just not HD without stutter. Games and other things are wonderful. (Of course assuming you rooted and rommed it, both of mine are/were)
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Its about 270 USD, but keep in mind that the nexus 7 is over 380 USD :crying:
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I'm going to disagree with all of you guys about the 200 USD Price... That's completely ridiculous for an used TF101. I got my TF101 2011, last black friday, at bestbuy for $249.99 and with all the cases and other stuff I got for that device it came around $270. (This is without the dock and it was brand NEW).
Now this device is outdated and I see listing on ebay for the device used for around $75 with dock. NOT Worth it; you can buy better stuff.
Clocked at 1.5GHz mine plays practically any 720p scene release I throw at it.
DTS support can be a pain but other than that, no issues.
I'm not exactly sure what and how much of it you need to smoke to find them on Ebay for $75 with dock though, docks alone go for that price or above.
I bought my TF101 from a friend and we both looked at current eBay prices. I agreed to $200 for tablet and dock and I agree that someone must be high if they think they can get that for $75 on eBay. Just doing a quick search, I see one without a dock that's at $177 with 6 hours left and a refurb with dock at $275 - these prices are pretty typical of what I've been seeing, too. Refurb's a bit high in price, but not ridiculous compared to the $250-ish average we'd been seeing.
Additionally, using the awesome eValuator app, $220-260 is average and that goes to $280-299 when I search "TF101 and dock".
Even the ones that are broken and won't power on are still going for over $100.
To the OP, I would recommend making a choice depending on if you want a 10" or 7" tablet. I don't think 25% less is a great deal if you really only want a 7" tablet. I was actually looking at the N7, too - when I was shopping, I went with the TF101 because I liked the keyboard dock, I trust my friend that nothing is messed up with it, and I wanted the 10" size. I'd tried some 7" tablets and since my phone is 5" the 7" tablet wasn't a big enough difference to appeal to me.
I also appreciated how easy the TF101 is easy to take apart if I want to replace the battery. I think it's a great design and I wish newer tablets still had these features.
I've had this for maybe a month and I have no complaints. I have watched Netflix in HD on it for a few hours at a time and had no issues - I don't know how this differs from other video playback, but perhaps I'm not picky, I thought it looked fine (and there wasn't any stuttering). I don't really play any intensive games on it, so I can't comment on that. I'm on stock ICS rooted right now, but going to mess around with ROMs.
Best Android tablet from it's time, hands down!
If you can get a refurbished one (they seemed to be everywhere at one point) then it's worth it. I found the tablet and the dock at different stores for under 250$ two different times and haven't had any issues with them whatsoever (I have 2). B&H had the refurb dock for 99$USD I think newegg was 120$CDN... but that was a while ago.
I'm running JB 4.2.1 and overclocked to 1.6GHz, watching 720p mkv natively in mplayer without any lag or issues. The dock makes it a must once you get used to it and learn the hotkeys and the extra battery time kicks ass! The USB ports means I can connect a usb to serial adapter to connect to devices at work, no need to carry around the laptop... or just connect external ntfs storage or whatever.
Overall I'm very satisfied, the only "problem" I have is the lack of updates from Asus but oh well, there are some awesome devs working here to bring us the best. I'd go watch the other forums on xda to see how active other tablets/devs are, compare your choices to make an informed decision.
My wife owns a Nexus 7, I own a TF101 w/ keyboard dock.
I'd take the TF101 hands down.
That isn't to say the Nexus 7 isn't a wonderful tablet. But I use my TF101 almost as much as a work computer; the larger screen and durable build, the nice speed even if it is a dual-core instead of N7's quad, the 1.5ghz (overclocked via EOS 4 Rom) speed.... I love this thing.
I love my wife's Nexus 7 mainly because it is small enough to fit in some pockets and very light.
You have to figure out what you want from your tablet and proceed accordingly. I'm a firm believer that trailing edge technology often is a much better deal than chasing after the newest (the minute you leave the store it too is trailing edge!).
The price range on these is almost NEVER below $200, and that is without a keyboard. The poster w the neg comments early on is either badly misinformed about everything he mentioned or just trolling. Easiest way to test that thesis? Go to either Amazon or Ebay (w/ sales where time is almost out) and note the price ranges there. Even Craigslist, where I got mine for a steal ($225 w/ keyboard). Read the other comments, make a list of what you expect from your tablet, and go for it. Both tablets are great in different ways.
And did I mention my wife says she sorta covets my TF101?
One add'tl edit.... The TF101 has TWO SD-Card slots, a mini-HDMI output, TWO USB ports (on keyboard), and a few other jingles. Nexus 7, like its competitors (iPad, Nook, and KindleHD) have few to none of them. Just another thought...
Price range without keyboard for NEW is $150ish (Not misinformed at all). Newegg was one of the sites that had this deal. Also, I got mine for $250 new in 2011 (That was when this tablet was good/ at the top of the market)- it was a black friday doorbuster. The BB Mobile store near my house had stock when I went in.
There are better tablets out there that will go on sale and I personally wouldn't buy a USED TF101 unless if it was $100 or less.
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Hello all
I have been given an opportunity to buy this tablet with the dock for not much money. It's second hand but used lightly and in great shape. The price is about 25% lower than the price of a NEW Asus Nexus 7 16GB in my country (no google play store here ).
My main concern is that it could be outdated. I had an Tegra 2 device (optimus 2x) and it was a pain to load any custom roms on it. I could only load Gingerbread roms on it. Sold it very quickly.
Is the TF101 showing its age? Does it run smoothly and are your batteries in good condition after this period? Any problems with apps? Games?
This would be my first tablet, so i'm not very much informed about them. I have been in the market for one a long time (1 year) and this is the first good opportunity I have seen. I would use it mainly for writing at college, some web browsing (flash running ok?) and casual gaming.
So would you recommend it now?
Any problems I should know about?
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Yes.
Newegg has the TF101 for $250 refurbished right now, and the dock for $99.
Big sales really can't be used to determine going price and market value. eBay averages are really the most accurate measure of what people are currently asking and what people are willing to pay.
I just cashed in a a Newegg super deal a few days ago, myself - and that's what it was, an awesome super deal that was way below the market price.
If a person wants to hold out for a super sale that may or may not happen that's their choice.
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Remember, I am not from the States. Prices here (Croatia) are much higher.
For example, I can buy a 9.7 inch Prestigio multipad with 1 GHz and 1 GB RAM for 350 USD - USED.
I'll probably buy the TF101 I found and live with it. If not, I will sell it for profit, because I can probably make some 50-100 bucks of it.
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The poster w the neg comments early on is either badly misinformed about everything he mentioned or just trolling.
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Yes, misinformed troll creating and hosting CM-builds for the TF101 community, that's me. </sarcasm>
I'll keep my tf101 until I stop setting value in it, but Asus/nvidia seriously oversold the thing and I'd be lying of I said I was 100% happy about it when I got it delivered.
It gets better with Roming though.
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HA!
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Price range without keyboard for NEW is $150ish (Not misinformed at all). Newegg was one of the sites that had this deal. Also, I got mine for $250 new in 2011 (That was when this tablet was good/ at the top of the market)- it was a black friday doorbuster. The BB Mobile store near my house had stock when I went in.
There are better tablets out there that will go on sale and I personally wouldn't buy a USED TF101 unless if it was $100 or less.
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you, my friend, are a liar and/or a fool. you will NEVER find a tf101 "under $100" unless it was broken. you will also NEVER see a new one for $150. period. look at ebay....cheapest place to find anything most of the time. good luck finding one with the keyboard for under $275. and good luck finding one without the keyboard under $200. USED. most of them listed that are $100-$150 are BROKEN. learn to read. cracked screen...chipped case....sound doesn't work....the $100 to $150 ones are severely abused transformers. if you can get one for $250-$300 with the keyboard dock, you have a good tablet that's worth the money. period. if you're not completely retarded and can follow basic instructions from this very website, you can then put the newest CM10 nightly build on the tablet, overclock it to 1.5Ghz or more, use "swapper" to make a 1GB swap partition, and you have - in theory - a 1.5Ghz, 2GB ram tablet with 2 usb ports, a keyboard, an sd slot, micro sd slot, hdmi out, the newest android OS....and in the 10.1" form factor. you can't find that ANYWHERE else on the market. people on here that say otherwise simply don't know what they're talking about. stock, it's a good tablet. modded, it's by far the best buy for your money and will smoke most others on the market that are three times the price (you know, the big goofy white ones) in performance, features, and all-around look and feel.
Just to update you guys... I have bought the tablet today. I like it pretty much. Finding the screen a bit awkward when using in portrait mode though.
It's kinda heavy, but I'll get used to it, after all, it took me some time to get used to a 4.65" mobile phone screen. I rooted it and I am still using the custom rom, as I usually do with all the stuff I buy. Eventually I will put a custom ROM on it because I had some serius hickups and a reset.
As far as the price point goes, I think that I couldn't have bought a better tablet for this price. I paid about 270 USD for it and it even has some of the plastic foil on it. Not even a scratch.
Now im off to find a custom ROM that has the ability to use all the buttons on the keyboard and thats overclockable.
Google Now and pinch to zoom in emails would be great too.
Thanks to all of you who replied, you helped a lot! Including the poster with negative comments.
I know you've already bought it, but I wanted to chime in that comparing my TF101 to my son's Nexus 7, I'd take the N7.
I liked the TF101 a lot, but as others mentioned, the stock firmware had become unstable. I had apps crash and freeze, even when I wiped and reflashed it. Unfortunately, the 4.2 ROMs are okay but lack some features. For example, I've seen some complained that the dock keyboard isn't fully functional. One of my complaints with the custom ROMs that I've tried is that Google Talk crashes anytime I try voice/video chat.
I'll still use, but I admit that I covet a newer tablet with the quad core.
Keyboard dock and Google Talk fully working here on 4.2, although I'd rather use Google+ Hangout for video chat.
so the liveview is $25 on amazon, the second gen sony smartwatch is $94, and the pebble is $150. I have preordered the pebble, but have yet to pay. I wanted to ask if the liveview is worth it in comparison, for the price being so cheap..i may just buy it to try it out since its so cheap. i have an htc one s with android 4.2, also does liveview have push notifications?.... any suggestions..thanks
When a Google search brings up the suggestion "Sony Liveview don't bother", you know you'll be wasting your money.
Those Amazon reviews paint a very negative picture.
See what kind of reviews the Pebble gets and decide from there. You'll likely get what you pay for.
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got to respectfully disagree. For 20$ this thing is awesome.
I'd sort the reviews by date.
Also, consider the technical sophistication of your average user.
If you are posting on xda - you are the top 1% generally.
This thing is awesome.
There's a new firmware and client software out from sony that obviates pretty much all of the old problems.
AND there's an Open Live View reverse engineering effort that is 90% functional already!
This thing is badass!
imho.
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got to respectfully disagree. For 20$ this thing is awesome.
I'd sort the reviews by date.
Also, consider the technical sophistication of your average user.
If you are posting on xda - you are the top 1% generally.
This thing is awesome.
There's a new firmware and client software out from sony that obviates pretty much all of the old problems.
AND there's an Open Live View reverse engineering effort that is 90% functional already!
This thing is badass!
imho.
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yea i ended up getting it for $27 off amazon with expedient shipping. so i should get it soon and im hoping it works well with my htc one s...and for that cheap why not...much better than spending $150 on a pebble that ill get in like 6 months
i got my liveview, and id say its worth the money...it does what it says it does, though it sometimes disconnects...im glad i bought this and didnt spend 150 on a pebble, since its kinda of a gimmick... i mean its basically a pager on your wrist, but 27$ for it, i cant complain
For $20-30, it is a steal. Unfortunately they don't ship to my country, otherwiser I would have ordered an extra one as well.
I saw the Pebble, and frankly, I miss a two quite important functions from it that the liveview has: volume up and down as a music remote. Yeah, most likely someone will figure out how to add them to the 3-button-only interface (long press track skip would be ok) but till then, I'll go with my Liveview. Even if the connection is still not rock solid. Yeah, it is much, MUCH better than it was, but still not 100% if you are skipping music tracks left and right.
Another thing to watch out for: the frames are extremely fragile. Yes, even the metal clip-on frame. My wristwatch frame has a holding clip broken off (so it is useless as the LV falls out of it quite easily) and the clip-on is broken at the microUSB connector part. I actually had to attach the LV with a piece of masking tape to the frame so it won't fall out. I'm thinking of supergluing it there.
i found sony liveview a good smart watch but this is depending of what you demand from it
i found that it offers me the basic functionalities with cheap (really cheap) price
may be you found it a little bit dull (its look is not that great for some people), but who cares
It all depends on what you want to do with it, for me I wanted to use it as a cycling computer that worked with my phone using the my tracks app which worked perfectly so I love it for that and it only cost me $25. If you buy it just for the hell of it and don'd really know what is available for it then you might hate it, also I haven't encountered any issues with it disconnecting with my phone as others have had but it can be difficult to set up at first.
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i found sony liveview a good smart watch but this is depending of what you demand from it
i found that it offers me the basic functionalities with cheap (really cheap) price
may be you found it a little bit dull (its look is not that great for some people), but who cares
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I just got my liveview so far so good I bought one when it first cam out switch to an HTC amaze and it didn't work at all so I got rid of it, switched to a samsung note 2 and since I rarely had a problem with my old nexus s and t959 I figured it was worth getting it over the pebble I synced it about 2 hours ago and no disconnects and everything seems to be working fine
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Mine frequently disconnects, and I also had issues with the clip not holding, so I was a little disappointed. That being said, I only paid $22 for it, so I can't be too upset. I only need it to be able to discreetly check text messages at work, so it serves its purpose.
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Hello,
I was in a position like you at one point here's my take on it:
I considered the Liveview when it came out, but the reviews were horrible. Personally felt it looked a bit cheap for a wach... I saw the price drop, but since I can't get the US deals, I gave up on that one.
I then saw the pebble, but missed the kickstart. Noticing that the shipping date was so far away (and the price of $150 seemed too high), I looked elsewhere.
I found a nice balance with the Sony Smartwatch. It's cheaper than the pebble, and the general reviews are better than the previous liveview. I also like how they bundle the 20mm watch strap adapter so you can make it look better with other straps. This is what I ended up getting and I'm quite happy since all I really need was for my notifications to show up on my watch (free app for that!). Cost me about $100 AUD, but I've seen it cheaper in US sites.
just purchased one last night and i should be getting it on saturday. will post my thoughts on it. not expecting too much for $22 but im still excited!
I kickstarted the Pebble. I had another Android smartwatch on preorder until I realized the Pebble is the only waterproof one. I dreaded the thought of washing my hands wrong, or getting caught in the rain and ruining my $300 watch. The $115 Pebble seemed like a no brainer, all things considered.
With that said, the Pebble SDK still isn't public yet, so there's currently a severe lack of functionality. The Pebble has piqued my interest in smarter watches though, so I've been keeping my eyes peeled for better alternatives.
I think the year of the smartwatch is coming soon. Especially if the rumors of an Apple iWatch are true.
Have mine for a half year now. I use it almost every day. It's pretty useful if you are listening to music via your phone in car and want to skip a song etc. . Also the Camera Watch function is pretty funny
i can only speak about the liveview since i have not bought a smartwatch yet.
as you can see within this thread and on openliveview.com, custom firmware developement and a liveware manager replacement is in developement.
the custom liveware manager replacement you can find here, has all the functionality the liveware manager has, except plugin support (wich is currently in developement)
besides, it has a notification implementation that is pretty similar to how custommessagenotifier works.
the firmware is yet not for daily usage since it does not put the watch into deepsleep yet and has no bluetooth support yet.
a big minus would be that you need to kindoff break your wristband holder to charge the liveview.
overall i'd say, the liveview is currently extremely customizable since the custom manager and the custom firmware are opensource.
to the smartwatch:
it has bluetooth 4 instead of 1.1 (liveview) wich makes the bluetooth battery drain pretty small and it could theoretically even be ported to iphone.
the screen is the same except it has multi touch instead of 4 tap keys.
it has more internal storage than the liveview so a custom firmware would be more awesome on it.
overall i'd say, its better than the liveview but unless we devs get our hands onto it, there will mostly not be a custom manager / rom soon, so you will need to stick to connection issues and sony's creepy try to write software.
It seems a good idea this new project.
Since 2 years, the LiveView is not on my wrist but on my desk.
Liveview is so worth it considering the price.
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I got mine for $15. I can't even find a cheap wristwatch at walmart for that much. The Liveview is a watch, but has some added functions which are pretty cool. Worth every penny of my $15.
Been planning on buying this for my Samsung Galaxy Nexus running on Jellybean 4.2.2 just wanted to ask if anyone can tell me if this watch is compatible on my device and android version. Just recently got ahold of bluetooth headset (Nokia BH-503) can this watch has capability to override handsfree and music controls of bluetooth headsets.
Now that I think of it, can I pair to devices on a phone at once? Asking because here in my country this costs 30$.
Hi,
I'm interested in buying a Novatech Ntab II 9.7 from Novatech UK.
I tried to find some reviews on the tablet but could not find any except videos on unboxing and just doodling around. The only proper reviews I found were for older versions or the windows one. Can someone who owns this Android tablet provide a review on it please?
Other questions which I'd like to have answered would be battery quality, wifi stability, feel and responsiveness, camera quality.
My use will be for reading and web browsing - no gaming involved. Is this some other Chinese made tablet or the build quality is better?
Also can someone provide feedback please on how accessible is Amazon Web store? This table comes without Google Play
Another question would be on the rooting side. Anyone got to root it themselves? They offered to root it for 40GBP but am seeing it as too expensive. Any custom roms for it?
I cannot post the URL to the website but if one is interested a quick google search for novatech ntab ii 9.7 will give the result
Wish you all a happy & blessed Easter!
novatech ntab ii
Hi,
I have the ntab ii.
For the price (£179), its well made, aluminium casing, feels good in the hand, a little on the heavy side, but has long battery life, so thats ok with me.
The screen is excellent, and overall its very well specced.
It also takes a 64gb micro sd card without any difficulty (this needs to be formatted to fat32 to work). Novatech were of the opinion that this is not compatible, but it is and I've advised their tech department who seemed grateful for the info on their own product!
As for rooting it, I'd like to do the same, but can't find any info on it. I asked novatech, but they gave a nonsensical answer that seemed to avoid the question. I also note that the version they sell now has kitkat (mine has 4.2.2). Either way it still doesn't have google play store.
Amazon store is really pretty crap, and overall, despite being a great tablet in terms of design, build and spec, not having google play store is a major, major flaw with this product. You can get by without it, but it really reduces the enjoyment of the purchase. I'm not sure why they have to use this cut down version given that android is meant to be freeware, (no doubt google imposes it on them to maintain market dominance).
Wifi stability is fine, a bit weaker than my laptop, but thats to be expected. Works fine in my 2 bed flat. I haven't really used the camera, so can't comment on that. As stated, the screen is superb, so for browsing / reading you won't be dissapointed there if you decide to buy.
I'm 50:50 as to whether or not I'd recommend this product. At first I thought I was getting a great deal for the price, which in theory you do, but after a few days of realising just how poor the amazon store is compared to google play, I was left thinking that with the benefit of hindsight, I'd probably fork out the extra cash and get something with google play installed.
If it can be rooted however, that would change everything, as it would mean that you get the well specced tablet for a great price running kitkat with no restrictions. I'd gladly pay £30 to get mine rooted and increase its functionality. Who offered to do yours for £40?
Happy to answer questions, and would gratefully receive any info on rooting this device.
Cheers.
Hi,
Many thankjs for the review! That is one great review Now I have bought a Nexus 10 but your's will surely help other people considering the tablet.
With regards to the 40quids, its Novatech themselves who offered to root it, over their live chat.
Goodluck with the rooting
Matthew
Shrubmonkey said:
Hi,
I have the ntab ii.
For the price (£179), its well made, aluminium casing, feels good in the hand, a little on the heavy side, but has long battery life, so thats ok with me.
The screen is excellent, and overall its very well specced.
It also takes a 64gb micro sd card without any difficulty (this needs to be formatted to fat32 to work). Novatech were of the opinion that this is not compatible, but it is and I've advised their tech department who seemed grateful for the info on their own product!
As for rooting it, I'd like to do the same, but can't find any info on it. I asked novatech, but they gave a nonsensical answer that seemed to avoid the question. I also note that the version they sell now has kitkat (mine has 4.2.2). Either way it still doesn't have google play store.
Amazon store is really pretty crap, and overall, despite being a great tablet in terms of design, build and spec, not having google play store is a major, major flaw with this product. You can get by without it, but it really reduces the enjoyment of the purchase. I'm not sure why they have to use this cut down version given that android is meant to be freeware, (no doubt google imposes it on them to maintain market dominance).
Wifi stability is fine, a bit weaker than my laptop, but thats to be expected. Works fine in my 2 bed flat. I haven't really used the camera, so can't comment on that. As stated, the screen is superb, so for browsing / reading you won't be dissapointed there if you decide to buy.
I'm 50:50 as to whether or not I'd recommend this product. At first I thought I was getting a great deal for the price, which in theory you do, but after a few days of realising just how poor the amazon store is compared to google play, I was left thinking that with the benefit of hindsight, I'd probably fork out the extra cash and get something with google play installed.
If it can be rooted however, that would change everything, as it would mean that you get the well specced tablet for a great price running kitkat with no restrictions. I'd gladly pay £30 to get mine rooted and increase its functionality. Who offered to do yours for £40?
Happy to answer questions, and would gratefully receive any info on rooting this device.
Cheers.
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Novatech themselves offer to root?! Cool. Will get back in touch with them. Maybe my last request was just a communication breakdown.
I'm kind of novice, but can anyone advise on the following...once rooted, does that mean I'm only half way there, I then need to find a suitable ROM to flash into the device with a fresh install of kitkat / jellybean with google play activated etc?
yancho said:
Hi,
Many thankjs for the review! That is one great review Now I have bought a Nexus 10 but your's will surely help other people considering the tablet.
With regards to the 40quids, its Novatech themselves who offered to root it, over their live chat.
Goodluck with the rooting
Matthew
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I have had one of these and it was very good value whilst it lasted. Unfortunately it died on me after 2 years.
Anybody know when they plan to release the keyboard that is custom to fit the 10.5? They had it at the release party and is one of the main reasons I bought the tab s
I would also like to know.
I'm disappointed that it wasn't released at the same time as the tab s.
I can't wait to get the titanium bronze keyboard.
Definitely looking forward to this release.
Just picked up my 32 gb 10.5 and was also bummed that the Samsung keyboard case was not available.
But, when in BB, I checked out Logitech's version and was impressed enough to buy it ($99). It's not the same as the official Samsung version, but I don't regret getting it at all. It's really nice.
FWIW.
Wish this form factor would be available for the TabPRO/NotePRO series... I really like the laptop like form.
I just came from Best Buy because I wanted to look at the tablet in person and the sales guy showed me the Samsung keyboard so they are getting them now, they don't even have them on the website at 129.99
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Itchiee said:
I just came from Best Buy because I wanted to look at the tablet in person and the sales guy showed me the Samsung keyboard so they are getting them now, they don't even have them on the website at 129.99
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Actually Best Buy has had it on their website for about a week now.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-bluetooth-keyboard-case-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10-5-titanium-bronze/7398203.p?id=1219268393432&skuId=7398203&st=galaxy%20tab%20s%20keyboard&cp=1&lp=1
Oh, he told me they didn't so I didn't know but definitely not the point of my post!
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Best buy has then in titanium but no white
cyhamada said:
Just picked up my 32 gb 10.5 and was also bummed that the Samsung keyboard case was not available.
But, when in BB, I checked out Logitech's version and was impressed enough to buy it ($99). It's not the same as the official Samsung version, but I don't regret getting it at all. It's really nice.
FWIW.
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I've been waiting for this to come out, but I've been busy the last couple of days filming a movie so I haven't had time to check on it. They have it at Best Buy? How do you like it? Does it feel solid, like when you type on it, can you tell from they keys that you've actually pressed something or is it like typing on the ground where you can't tell that it's a keyboard?
Just picked up the Samsung Bluetooth keyboard from Best Buy...
I had checked local inventory online and found that a store close to my home had it "in stock". I purchased it and said I would pick it up in store, and they emailed me back saying that stock was out. I found another store, a bit further away but they did find it for me. This was a pre-purchase as my tab S 10.5 doesn't arrive until tomorrow sometime(c'mon FedEx make it early!), so I can't really give a full breakdown of my opinion on it. I do like the way it looks, it looks nice, matches, and compliments the tab S tablet compared to the black ugly logitech one(IMHO). I will update my thoughts on it tomorrow when I get a chance to play around with the tablet.
I have my Tab S 10.5, and I am awaiting the Titanium Keyboard (delivery expected today). I have the Book case which I truly enjoy.
I will provide a status update later in the week. I'm happy that everlast716 likes its initial presentation, I will be interested in comparing notes.
Peace and blessings,
Azeke
Keyboard Status update:
Here are my initial observations:
1) Beautiful keyboard, looks very clean and professional
2) Keys are responsive (sometimes minor lag), key stroke (1.5mm) and incurved keys a plus
3) Key pitch (16.01mm) a tad small, but it is a 10.5 tablet (use to the Note pro 12.2 keyboard size, since returned)
4) Nice latching mechanism
5) Needs track pad
6) Minimal protection against drops (although not tested)
7) Minor instability when mounted and using touchscreen
I rate this keyboard 8.5/10 and I would purchase it again. Although I wish it was less expensive, will try to price match with BB, once availability increases.
Please feel free to ask any questions.
Peace and Blessings,
Azeke
Azeke said:
I have my Tab S 10.5, and I am awaiting the Titanium Keyboard (delivery expected today). I have the Book case which I truly enjoy.
I will provide a status update later in the week. I'm happy that everlast716 likes its initial presentation, I will be interested in comparing notes.
Peace and blessings,
Azeke
Keyboard Status update:
Here are my initial observations:
1) Beautiful keyboard, looks very clean and professional
2) Keys are responsive (sometimes minor lag), key stroke (1.5mm) and incurved keys a plus
3) Key pitch (16.01mm) a tad small, but it is a 10.5 tablet (use to the Note pro 12.2 keyboard size, since returned)
4) Nice latching mechanism
5) Needs track pad
6) Minimal protection against drops (although not tested)
7) Minor instability when mounted and using touchscreen
I rate this keyboard 8.5/10 and I would purchase it again. Although I wish it was less expensive, will try to price match with BB, once availability increases.
Please feel free to ask any questions.
Peace and Blessings,
Azeke
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Swell job on the review Azeke! I'd have to agree with you on all points. I was a little scared before I got the keyboard that closing it would eventually scuff the screen, but that isn't the case. I'm enjoying this keyboard, I just have to say I wish it was about 20 dollars cheaper, after taxes this sucker was about 140 dollar! I used to have an Asus tf700 and the keyboard dock that came with that was $150 when I paid for it, but it had an extended battery to get more juice out of the tablet, and it was a little easier to type on it. Also, it would have been nicer if you could adjust the viewing angle a little bit. Just my two cents lol...Azeke, have you found yourself sliding your finger at the bottom of the keyboard where you might be used to a trackpad yet? Lol, I just did it a minute ago.
Typed on the Samsung Type S keyboard(I had to test it out!)
everlast716 said:
Swell job on the review Azeke! I'd have to agree with you on all points. I was a little scared before I got the keyboard that closing it would eventually scuff the screen, but that isn't the case. I'm enjoying this keyboard, I just have to say I wish it was about 20 dollars cheaper, after taxes this sucker was about 140 dollar! I used to have an Asus tf700 and the keyboard dock that came with that was $150 when I paid for it, but it had an extended battery to get more juice out of the tablet, and it was a little easier to type on it. Also, it would have been nicer if you could adjust the viewing angle a little bit. Just my two cents lol...Azeke, have you found yourself sliding your finger at the bottom of the keyboard where you might be used to a trackpad yet? Lol, I just did it a minute ago.
Typed on the Samsung Type S keyboard(I had to test it out!)
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Thank you for the compliment everlast716, and yes I found myself looking for the trackpad once or twice. I'm going to connect the MS Wedge mouse I have laying around to see how well the k/b and mouse work.
Update: The MS Wedge and Keyboard integrate well, however as of this writing I have limited mouse customization options. I guess that's why Samsung wants you to purchase the Samsung S Action Mouse. All things considered it still works .
Peace and blessings,
Azeke
Upgraded to the 32GB 10.5 and loving the keyboard.
I got today the "Samsung Galaxy Tab S Bluetooth Keyboard 8.4" Bronze", EJ-CT700UAEGWW
stkpxl said:
Where? All I've been able to find is the one with Korean characters or the AT&T version that doesn't match the Titanium Bronze color.
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I bought this keyboard in the Netherlands:
Hardware.nl
Price: €72,99
henklbr said:
I bought this keyboard in the Netherlands:
Hardware.nl
Price: €72,99
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Why can't any US vendor have any.
polo2883 said:
Why can't any US vendor have any.
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It's also available at AMAZON:
Amazon