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Htc thunderbolt vs atrix 4g!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfdAHIfXYas&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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i dont have a problem with battery life but like the girl said true LTE phone . let me know when you exceed 4mbps down and 300kbps up

I got a 28.94 down, 35.48 up speed test when I was in Manhattan 2 days ago

I actually would have kept the atrix if i could even get 3g speeds.
I never broke 1.5 MB down...
And I live in Phoenix AZ!!
Oh , it also sucks for coverage - I would drive 10 miles out of city limits and go from 4 bars to NOTHING.
Verizon has a fantastic network - but the Atrix is the best phone i have ever had...

I returned the atrix for the thunderbolt..
I'm a long time verizon customer.. the AT&T network was too hit or miss, the phone had bugs.
it was faster, but I don't have verizon 4g coverage here yet in milwaukee. I'm sure that'll change and I can't wait
battery life, the atrix was better, but it had a 1900mah battery.. the tbolt has 1400 and a much larger screen.. i'm scared to see how it gets when I start beating on 4g... I can barely keep it to sustain a change while on the charger using mobile hot-spot.

The consumer is the only one that loses here
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CorporateGoth said:
I got a 28.94 down, 35.48 up speed test when I was in Manhattan 2 days ago
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Upload being faster than Download should cue you into something wrong with that picture.

adrynalyne said:
Upload being faster than Download should cue you into something wrong with that picture.
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Nah - the upload speed is probably wrong due to the TB's huge upload buffer. It's a known issue that upload speeds aren't going to be correct using the SpeedTest app.
But no buffer in the world can improve download speeds, and I more care about that.

the download speed is borked as well, reads too low.

lorijuan1024 said:
i dont have a problem with battery life but like the girl said true LTE phone . let me know when you exceed 4mbps down and 300kbps up
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4Mb/s? You can get that with a standard flip phone. Now 4MB/s is a different story.

Either way, the atrix isnt really 4g, and it has a locked bootloader. Good luck, the tbolt also has more dev support and its only been out for one week today. How bout that? Those are the things that really matter. They are both great phones.
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gsxr1kmatt said:
I don't have verizon 4g coverage here yet in milwaukee.
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I thought I read that someone was getting 4g in Milwaukee.

ksizzle9 said:
Either way, the atrix isnt really 4g
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LOL...Really? Thats news to me.

.... double checks that the 4g radio is on...
nope, not yet.

Ubermicro13 said:
4Mb/s? You can get that with a standard flip phone. Now 4MB/s is a different story.
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no i think i am pretty right there mbps look at your phone speedtest app but they are the same correct me if i'm wrong

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LOL...Really? Thats news to me.
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/118464484.html
DOH.. I was just down by the airport last night!!!!

gsxr1kmatt said:
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/118464484.html
DOH.. I was just down by the airport last night!!!!
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that guy sounded sad

ksizzle9 said:
Either way, the atrix isnt really 4g, and it has a locked bootloader. Good luck, the tbolt also has more dev support and its only been out for one week today. How bout that? Those are the things that really matter. They are both great phones.
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so then y do they say its 4g?

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so then y do they say its 4g?
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Post your 4G speeds.

Download "Speed Test" from the Market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.zwanoo.android.speedtest
Post your screenshots!
This is 4G inside my house.
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I'll run outside one day and run some tests too.

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Download "Speed Test" from the Market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.zwanoo.android.speedtest
Post your screenshots!
This is 4G inside my house.
I'll run outside one day and run some tests too.
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Not going to embarrass myself after seeing your post. I got 2ishmb and 1ishmb..."4G" sucks in Troy, Michigan...

From the 2nd floor in my house:

10.7 megs

@work, was my fastest speed i could get, i think i got lucky
Edit: Fixed

This is the speed I always get at home. Its not 10mbps, but I'm not complaining.

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@work, was my fastest speed i could get, i think i got lucky
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In the future you may also want to blur out your longitude and latitude location too. Fortunately that speedtest you took was only at a CVS on Nolensville Pike . But seriously you may want to blur that stuff out in the future, you never know who will see it.

at my work
15mb down only happened once though
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Okay i see people posting over 14.4Mbps download which should be impossible. The G2x only supports a theoretical max download speed of 14.4Mbps. This makes no sense and it makes me doubt the accuracy of the speedtest.net app.

if only i had 4g in wisconsin =(

nate420 said:
if only i had 4g in wisconsin =(
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Where in Wisconsin do you live?
I am in Minnesota

moshe22 said:
Where in Wisconsin do you live?
I am in Minnesota
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eau claire... about 70 miles west of st.paul

mapin0518 said:
Okay i see people posting over 14.4Mbps download which should be impossible. The G2x only supports a theoretical max download speed of 14.4Mbps. This makes no sense and it makes me doubt the accuracy of the speedtest.net app.
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I've read in a review from phonearena.com that it's 21Mb/s? So, I don't know.

mapin0518 said:
Okay i see people posting over 14.4Mbps download which should be impossible. The G2x only supports a theoretical max download speed of 14.4Mbps. This makes no sense and it makes me doubt the accuracy of the speedtest.net app.
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really? I hit that speed on my mytouch 4g when i go to school again ill sit in the coffee house and run a few more tests

Just tested. Here it is!
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I'm so jealous. I haven't got 4g speeds anywhere. I live in Houston. I thought it was my old sim card so did a sim swap and still no luck.

v8dreaming said:
I've read in a review from phonearena.com that it's 21Mb/s? So, I don't know.
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PhoneArena has incorrect specs. Many sites reported incorrectly that the G2x has up to 42Mbps b/c of an unclear press release from T-Mobile a while back. Since then T-Mobile has come out to say that it's limited to 14.4Mbps. I'll try to find the link...

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really? I hit that speed on my mytouch 4g when i go to school again ill sit in the coffee house and run a few more tests
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Yep, the MyTouch 4G only supports up to 14.4Mbps as well.
Currently the only faster download phone is the Samsung Galaxy S 4G which supports up to 21Mbps download speed.
And there are no phones yet that can take advantage of the upgraded 42Mbps towers.
So take those speedtest.net results with a grain of salt, disregard anything over 14.4Mbps, and take multiple tests and average.

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[Q] Wireless N Speed (Solved)

Update:
Viewed FCC Testing report for the Transformer, it seems that the Transformer can have a max 802.11n linked speed of 72Mbps (MCS index 7)
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1430395
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I am just curious what other people are getting as a link speed on their Transformer via wireless N
To quickest way to check is by going into Settings>Wireless&Networks
Then click on connected Access point and a dialog will give you info about connection
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I am getting 72 Mbps when being really close to AP ( >1 FT)
Which i think is pretty low, streaming from my media server is ok, but i would like to get atleast 150mbps even though my wireless router supports up to 300Mbps
Some reference material:
http://www.wi-fi.org/files/wp_Wi-Fi_CERTIFIED_n_Industry.pdf

I havent installed the app, but I got a reading from my admin page (D-link) and it shows 65Mbps with a 78% Signals. The router is 6 feet away....Not very good imho. I also have my notebook which is 300Mbps with 100% Signals. I was hoping to get around 90-100Mbps. I have also try switching to different channels, and also set my router to accept only N devices. 65Mbps is the best my TF could do. I will check it out with the apps.

SlimDan22 said:
I am just curious what other people are getting as a link speed on their Transformer via wireless N
To quickest way to check is using the App Phone Tester
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mtorres.phonetester
Once installed , Open app
Go to WiFi Status while connected to wireless N supported AP
Then the item Link speed will tell you what the data rate is
Let me know what you guys get
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I am getting 72 Mbps when being really close to AP ( >1 FT)
Which i think is pretty low, streaming from my media server is ok, but i would like to get atleast 150mbps even though my wireless router supports up to 300Mbps
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http://www.wi-fi.org/files/wp_Wi-Fi_CERTIFIED_n_Industry.pdf
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I'd be absolutely amazed if you get anywhere near 150Mbps. I blame the Wireless N standard rather than the TF. Wireless N is quoted up to 300Mbps which makes me laugh. If you manage to get half of this you are doing VERY well. I would be delighted with 72Mbps. It is more than fast enough to stream any type of video so what is the problem? I think you have a decent speed there.

dazz87 said:
I havent installed the app, but I got a reading from my admin page (D-link) and it shows 65Mbps with a 78% Signals. The router is 6 feet away....Not very good imho. I also have my notebook which is 300Mbps with 100% Signals. I was hoping to get around 90-100Mbps. I have also try switching to different channels, and also set my router to accept only N devices. 65Mbps is the best my TF could do. I will check it out with the apps.
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I would NEVER trust the 300Mbps reading you get from your laptop. I bet if you were to carry out some proper tests it wouldn't even be half this. 300Mbps is living in dream world.

I have the Netgear WNDR37AV (dual band) and will do the test once I arrive at home.

There was a long thread on this on the official Motorola Xoom forum, basically concluding that the chips in modern tablets (all of them) are simply not capable of sustaining higher speeds than what's being reported here. For myself, I'm happy with the performance--certainly, it's fast enough for anything I use a tablet for.

vipergrm said:
I would NEVER trust the 300Mbps reading you get from your laptop. I bet if you were to carry out some proper tests it wouldn't even be half this. 300Mbps is living in dream world.
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I move alot of big files from my notebook to my server. With TeraCopy I'm averaging about 12MB/s on 270-300Mbps. On 54Mbps (G speed) I get 2MB/s. On a 150Mbps I get 5-7MB/s. To me, the numbers sound bout right with my results.

Well im going to test a little bit with Iperf and see what kind of throughput i get
Does anyone who the vendor is for the wireless transceiver on the transformer?

dazz87 said:
I move alot of big files from my notebook to my server. With TeraCopy I'm averaging about 12MB/s on 270-300Mbps. On 54Mbps (G speed) I get 2MB/s. On a 150Mbps I get 5-7MB/s. To me, the numbers sound bout right with my results.
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12MB/sec is about 100Mbps, which is way less than the 300Mbps quoted by your router's max speed. Still, I would be very happy with that speed.

dark_aura said:
I have the Netgear WNDR37AV (dual band) and will do the test once I arrive at home.
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Are you (or anyone else for that matter) able to connect to the 5G network with your transformer?
My transformer is only able to see/connect to the 2.4 band (65mbps) and I'm wondering what router people who can connect to 5G own.
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72mbps is what mine always shows, never any higher.

Jocelyn said:
Are you (or anyone else for that matter) able to connect to the 5G network with your transformer?
My transformer is only able to see/connect to the 2.4 band (65mbps) and I'm wondering what router people who can connect to 5G own.
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The issue is not your router, its the TF. It cant connect at 5g, only 2.4g

bobcatuk said:
72mbps is what mine always shows, never any higher.
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Interesting
Wireless N gets its major speed increase from using multiple channels (MIMO) and the increase in bandwidth between channels 20 Mhz or 40 Mhz
If nobody can get higher link speeds then 72 Mbps, then it seems that the transformer doesn't support multiple channels or the 40Mhz channel bandwidth
Here is a chart for reference

Does any of this matter. For smooth streaming I thought you only needed 5-6 mbps.
FWIW, the Nook Color has N and also only supports 2.4 GHz and streamed video is smooth.

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The issue is not your router, its the TF. It cant connect at 5g, only 2.4g
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Thanks for this. I was questioning it because the zoom apparently can connect to 5G from what I've read.
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Jocelyn said:
Thanks for this. I was questioning it because the zoom apparently can connect to 5G from what I've read.
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Xoom, NC and TF101, all of em don't support 5g, atleast 5g didn't work on my friend his xoom with 3 different routers.

jerrykur said:
Does any of this matter. For smooth streaming I thought you only needed 5-6 mbps.
FWIW, the Nook Color has N and also only supports 2.4 GHz and streamed video is smooth.
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Agree completely. 72Mbps is well fast enough for any type of streaming. Don't see what the issue is...

jerrykur said:
Does any of this matter. For smooth streaming I thought you only needed 5-6 mbps.
FWIW, the Nook Color has N and also only supports 2.4 GHz and streamed video is smooth.
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It depends on the quality, the bitrate, the filetype and of course the file size. But yeah for most people's files and the majority of stuff you get from the web 5-6 is plenty.

seshmaru said:
Xoom, NC and TF101, all of em don't support 5g, atleast 5g didn't work on my friend his xoom with 3 different routers.
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My Xoom connects to my 5G router. It's a netgear WNDR3700v2

So I went into settings > Wireless & networks, then hit the button on the top right (scan and advanced). When I selected advanced the first time, there was either (I forget what it said lol) an option above the mac address for 5G, 2.4G, automatic or N/G/Auto. I selected 5G/N, however I can no longer get this option since selecting one. I'm not trying to prove this thing can connect to 5G networks, though I'm wondering what that was all about and how to get the option back. Has anyone seen this? Maybe I'll do a hard reset.

Post your 4G/3G Speeds!

I'll start why not Here's a good amount of tests for my area.
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Very nice numbers indeed. I never get above 5mb.
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We had some past threads about this... but they aren't active recently so I'll jump on this one. Plus T-Mobile did those changes here in the States recently. I do see a slight difference in my speed since they "doubled" the speeds in many major cities. Only problem... it's now a little slower for me. Will keep testing.
Before Speed Doubling
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6-7 Mbps average
10 Mbps max seen
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4-5 Mbps average
7 Mbps max seen
Lame! Maybe my old 2g SIM card is finally coming into play? I'm over my 5 Gb as is my norm so maybe I'm being throttled to HSDPA (3.5 g) lol

Yeah it's possible your Sim card is playing a role in that. May want to swap it out!

I'm in north side of Chicago, max speed seems to be around 5-6Mbps at my office, although I'm getting all bars. Will do some speedtest when I go to the Starbucks right next to the t-mobile store (I suspects they would have wifi-to-cell access point there to max out the speed)!

I'm in Queens,New York and speeds are lame where i live.I never reached 3Mbps. my average speed is around 1-2.5Mbps

NYCguy2020 said:
I'm in Queens,New York and speeds are lame where i live.I never reached 3Mbps. my average speed is around 1-2.5Mbps
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Has to be better than Sprint... have you tried outside of your home area?
Las Vegas. SW

Got this near Dallas:

dubt17 said:
Got this near Dallas:
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That's pretty incredible. This is the best I got.
Edit: From Queens, NY

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Got this near Dallas:
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Where!? I'm in Irving and I've 3.65 down with .62 up once (horrible up). My HD2 got better speeds than this..

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Got this near Dallas:
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Very nice, I'm a little north in Lewisville, fastest I have seen so far is 9.5 or so down and 2.5 or so up.
I average 3 - 5 down and 1-2.5 up. Ive only run a few tests at work but dont know the results off the top of my head.

does the sim card actuall impact 4g speed?
xamadeix said:
Yeah it's possible your Sim card is playing a role in that. May want to swap it out!
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i am using the SIM card I had last year in my HD2. I will search on google, but before i do, are you saying officially that the SIM card impacts the speed of my connections? thanks.

My best is 4162kbps. The same place my vibrant gets 5800 +. The sensation is clearly slower then the old vibrant 3G in my case. On all accounts all the time.

My best download speed:6.99Mbps,Upload:4.41Mbps.
Location:Yorba Linda(T-Mobile hasn't increase the speed here!)

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My best download speed:6.99Mbps,Upload:4.41Mbps.
Location:Yorba Linda(T-Mobile hasn't increase the speed here!)
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That's the best upload speeds I've seen. Pretty damn good.

I have been constantly performing tests, and have definitely been getting the attached snap shot. Location is obviously important, so thankfully I almost have blanket coverage.

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That's the best upload speeds I've seen. Pretty damn good.
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May be by chance.Because my upload speed is usually around 1Mbps~3Mbps,and my download speed is usually around 2Mbps~6Mbps

In a G2x. First one is a definitive error as for the G2x has a 14.4 Mbps cap.

I got mine near Frisco / Plano. Can't wait for custom roms to apply build.prop hacks to make it faster!
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heygrl said:
Has to be better than Sprint... have you tried outside of your home area?
Las Vegas. SW
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Well yeah,but most places i go to (work,home,GF)are not that great in terms of 4G coverage.Still better than sprint in most cases though.

Checking on 5G and LTE speeds with T-Mobile

Got my phone today and really like the feel, features etc.
Working with the camera now to see how its working...
Biggest issue is 5G, coming from OnePlus 8 and get speeds in my house that keep getting faster.
But Edge is struggling! Motorola Engineers are looking in to it.
Anyone else having issues?
OnePlus speeds:
Motorola Edge speeds:

Random Pictures:

Stupid question from Germany...does the Edge works on 5G since the beginning in the US?
In Germany we're still waiting for the patch.

Edge is my only 5G device so don't have anything to compare it to, but here in Phoenix here is what I'm getting the last few days. Ignore the really bad one, that was at my in-laws place which for whatever reason has been really bad always and I'm thankful to have anything at all. Even though these speeds are plenty for my usage, it kind of stinks to think I might have even better speeds with a different device.
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tom93r1 said:
Edge is my only 5G device so don't have anything to compare it to, but here in Phoenix here is what I'm getting the last few days. Ignore the really bad one, that was at my in-laws place which for whatever reason has been really bad always and I'm thankful to have anything at all. Even though these speeds are plenty for my usage, it kind of stinks to think I might have even better speeds with a different device.
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I haven't activated 5G yet but it doesn't seem to improve speed much on this phone. I think I'll save the $$ until Motorola addresses it.

braveally said:
I haven't activated 5G yet but it doesn't seem to improve speed much on this phone. I think I'll save the $$ until Motorola addresses it.
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Today I set my edge to prefer LTE and ran speed test then right back to 5g for test. The LTE in my area is much slower, so 5g does make a difference here. 48 vs 15 download speed as shown in screenshot
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tom93r1 said:
Today I set my edge to prefer LTE and ran speed test then right back to 5g for test. The LTE in my area is much slower, so 5g does make a difference here. 48 vs 15 download speed as shown in screenshotView attachment 5075631
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I see, in this case, I guess it's relative. It must be a location thing. The speeds I'm getting are more than enough for all my uses.
Edit: I know these were all done together but this is what I get at any time of the day or night generally.

braveally said:
I see, in this case, I guess it's relative. It must be a location thing. The speeds I'm getting are more than enough for all my uses.
Edit: I know these were all done together but this is what I get at any time of the day or night generally.
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I've never come close to 100 Mbps ever with any phone in my area, I wouldn't bother worrying about 5g either at this time.
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tom93r1 said:
I've never come close to 100 Mbps ever with any phone in my area, I wouldn't bother worrying about 5g either at this time.
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Speeds improved today Tmobile said tower work was being done in my area...
I am in N Peoria but yesterday was 1st day driving around with this phone and it was all over the place in speed and some areas 4G was faster
So for now its really address specific.

Didnt notice mine till I watched a YouTube today and the kid said the case was super loose by the power button and sure enough I checked and its really bad.
Anyone seen any leather cases ?
Something like this open and easy
ALso anyone getting this when you do a voice search?
I am getting it once to twice a day...
Still working on Gcam pics

T&C said:
Speeds improved today Tmobile said tower work was being done in my area...
I am in N Peoria but yesterday was 1st day driving around with this phone and it was all over the place in speed and some areas 4G was faster
So for now its really address specific.
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Looks like they did similar work in my area (Tempe), things got much faster today!
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tom93r1 said:
Looks like they did similar work in my area (Tempe), things got much faster today!View attachment 5076757
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They must have undid that work, last night and today I can't even hit 50 down any more

tom93r1 said:
Looks like they did similar work in my area (Tempe), things got much faster today!View attachment 5076757
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Nice what part of Tempe because Sat was over by the Pointe i10 and Elliott and it was average about 40 mbps.
Got to like that 114 better!

T&C said:
Nice what part of Tempe because Sat was over by the Pointe i10 and Elliott and it was average about 40 mbps.
Got to like that 114 better!
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48th St and Baseline, but it back down to around 40 again. They are just messing with us now

tom93r1 said:
48th St and Baseline, but it back down to around 40 again. They are just messing with us now
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Yeah same area but think the 114 still gives hope!
I would still DM them on twitter just to see what they say.
@motorolaUS
@tmobileHelp

T&C said:
Yeah same area but think the 114 still gives hope!
I would still DM them on twitter just to see what they say.
@motorolaUS
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I'll give it a shot
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Well those were some quick generic responses
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Here is my Speed on T-Mobile in Chicago.

That was with the Released Chrome Version with the Google Speed Test Website.