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Hi all,
I'm presently on the 3G network using a Motorola A920 phone. Compared to my XDA 1 it's trash!
I'm sure the XDA doesn't work on 3G so my question is, what is the best (similar to XDA) PDA/Phone for 3G?
Regards
John
There was a XDA1 model..EDGE..try to search closely on i-net
there are no 3g phones that use pocketpc software that i know off
but htc are working on one
Thanks for the reply,
I guess that's wot I needed to know really.
Cheers
John
PS Excuse my ignorance - wots HTC?
in the forums when a word is underlined like HTC is then it pop up a windows showing what it is from the forum dictionary
but HTC are the ones who make the pda's this forum is about
I thought the i-mate evo on expansys.com was a CDMA 3g phone, is this not the case?
yes, it is a 3G and imate started selling that in australia.
Thanks for the replies.
Just a little 'off topic'! I do recall that when I used to hover the mouse over one of these underlined words such as HTC a popup used to appear with information.
This doesn't happen now! I checked my IE settings (all default). Any ideas?
Regards
John
if you have a popblocker installed, it will not allow the popup windows (duh)(i had the same problem though, so, DUH to me :lol: )
Otherwise, I don't know of any reason they would just stop coming up. Any newly installed software, or use of preinstalled software used only recently, could possibly change some setting somewhere to give you that problem. Then again, i have soo much spyware/addware on my pc, it's hosed up and nothing works as expected. Anyway, good luck, and let us know.
Your on XP and just update with the latest IE patch, it knocks them out on my wifes machine.
DUH indeed!!!
I hadn't intentionally installed a popup blocker but discovered it's a component of the Google toolbar!
Thanks guys
Helooo!
this is actualy my first post though I have been lurking for ages
proud owner of a HTC Wizard about to upgrade to the XDA orbit but thats not my question
recently came across this
http://cgi.ebay.com/CECT-W800-Touch...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Looks like an Artamis but its it, another CECT clone of the orbit with no wifi but with built in GPS running WM5
anyone actualy bought one? I wonder if it could be upgraded in some way with a custom ROM to WM6?
not too botherd as going to get the Artamis anyway but may be intrested in buying it to experiment
same thought...
but still no answer found
Hi All,
This is my first time on here i've just got the CECT W800 as a christmas present and so far very happy with it. The onboard tomtom GPS works very well and it came with complete car kit and two batteries all for £138 inc postage from China. I've recently found out its a clone of the MDA Compact III, does anyone know of any other issues with this phone?
It came sim unlocked for any network and i put my virgin sim card in and it found all the correct setting for GPRS and MMS automatically.
Can anyone tell me if any of the iphone lookalike programs and skins would work with this phone pls?
Thanks Mick.
Have You eny problems with w800:
- with sms receive ?
- gsm module working after softreset ?
link:topic
"Can anyone tell me if any of the iphone lookalike programs and skins would work with this phone pls?"
those programs and skins are generaly made for windows mobile and will generaly run on all devices which run windows mobile
Does the w800 have EDGE or just GPRS data? I'm looking in to getting one shortly and I won't even bother if it only has a GPRS radio.
How's the build quality and camera? Decent?
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Does the w800 have EDGE or just GPRS data? I'm looking in to getting one shortly and I won't even bother if it only has a GPRS radio.
How's the build quality and camera? Decent?
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It's only gprs. Camera - phone quality
W800 hasn't any manufacturer support and has many bugs
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It's only gprs. Camera - phone quality
W800 hasn't any manufacturer support and has many bugs
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what a shame... i could get past the bugs since SOMEONE's firmware ought to load on it but if the data is GPRS only, forget about it... too bad about it, the only other phone that I've seen that has built in GPS and doesn't cost an arm and a leg is the Pharos PTL600 for USD $469 with a $50 rebate. That's an ETEN rebrand, I believe.
the CECT w800 sounds (in theory) like a great device, is there a support website for it or does it just come out of a warehouse in Taiwan and that's it? I know CECT makes that knockoff iPhone that everyone has up on Ebay so they should be a fairly major company with at least a website.
I found cectelecom.com and qxmc.com as the Chinese and English webpages for CECT. Oddly enough, they don't list either this knockoff or the iPhone knockoff they sell. I'm going to shoot them an email and ask about the W800.
look this thread
Hi,
I have the CECT W800 and i'm very pleased with it. It comes with tomtom satnav which is very good and 1gig memory card. Try these websites www.cectstore.com and www.sourcinggate.com for more info.
Thanks Mick
GPS
Hi All,
Can someone answer does GPS navigation works without connecting external gps antenna.
I'm planning to buy one but i read that you must connect external antenna to have signal in navigation software.
BR
Hi,
Mine works without the external airel but it may take a bit longer to find a signal without it than it does with it, usually a couple of minutes. Where do you live? I'm in the UK and got the phone for xmas and very happy with it, if you need to know anything else about this phone let me know aand i'll try help.
I have this w800 and never used it. It came with its core language in Italian, a language I neither read or understand.
Is there anyone out there with an English rom for this damned thing.
Cheers all.
hi Lekkie,
Where did you get it from? I got mine from china via ebay and came in English, tomtom satnav was in chinese but changed it in the tomtom settings. I don't how you can get the rest of it in English maybe someone on here can help. I'll look through mine see if theres any language settings on it. Did you get a user manual with it? I got English version on CD rom i could send you file if you want, let me know.
Mick.
Hi guys,
Yes, got it through Ebay from some little chinese fella who has no idea about sending a phone with the right language for the country its being used in, its driving me crazy this damned thing.
I did get the manual, yes. That at least is in english, its the phone thats in italian.
Is there a way i could take a copy of the rom off mine and either send it to you by email or post it on here as mine is in English?
help!!
I set a pass code so it would lock and the pass code just quit working one morning anyone know a way to fix this?
I start to hate Raphael. There is everything inside,but nothing,that can I normally use without problems. I am now on a bussiness trip,I was testing GPS while driving...****!!! Absolutely useless, 70% of time without satellites,25% with unacurrate positio(more than 200m away of the road),only 5% of the time that was working normally(quiet). Now I am on the hotel and viola! I can connect to wifi,but after some seconds rhe network is unavailable and it is still connecting/disconnecting all the time round and round. This text I am writing from my laptop,where Wifi is working correctly(50% of available signal strength and the router is located 10m away from me behind the door). What the hell is the HTC nowadays? Raphael should be NOT a lowend,but as it seems,it is!!! This company starts to sucks.
Has anyone same problems with wifi as me? I have wifi set to maximum performance,but still sucks.
You really seem pissed at HTC mate... I dint have any issues with mine so far though... Note that the Wifi receiver on your laptop is always better than on your phone. If its 50% on the laptop then it can't be within like 10 metres or there must be loads of obstacles...
TomasNM said:
I start to hate Raphael. There is everything inside,but nothing,that can I normally use without problems. I am now on a bussiness trip,I was testing GPS while driving...S***!!! Absolutely useless, 70% of time without satellites,25% with unacurrate positio(more than 200m away of the road),only 5% of the time that was working normally(quiet). Now I am on the hotel and viola! I can connect to wifi,but after some seconds rhe network is unavailable and it is still connecting/disconnecting all the time round and round. This text I am writing from my laptop,where Wifi is working correctly(50% of available signal strength and the router is located 10m away from me behind the door). What the hell is the HTC nowadays? Raphael should be NOT a lowend,but as it seems,it is!!! This company starts to sucks.
Has anyone same problems with wifi as me? I have wifi set to maximum performance,but still sucks.
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Your wifi receiver will NEVER be as good as the equivalent from a laptop/pc. Remember if you wanted maximum wifi performance just like your laptop then your battery life will be VERY poor.
Remember dude this device is what?...a MONTH old? There are ALWAYS problems with HTC devices when they are stock, give the thing time to be developed for properly here.
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Remember dude this device is what?...a MONTH old? There are ALWAYS problems with HTC devices when they are stock, give the thing time to be developed for properly here.
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So what if it's about a MONTH old?! It should work flawlessly when you take it from the box! That's why you've paid a lot of money.. not to wait for PARTIAL 3rd-party solutions that can avoid your warranty!
I see a lot of issues, a lot of unhappy people, etc etc.. will actually htc take an action to resolve all those bugs (I think the majority are software related) or they will close their eyes like usual (see previous device and htc attitude)?
if htc will do exactly nothing about those problemes, I think the only solution is to announce the mass of their stupid ignorance. i'm really upset and had enough of it.
I've made a topic with some of most common problems of htc touch pro. If noting gonna change i will forward that topic (including some other from here) to all the big mobiles news site (gsmarea, mobile-review, coolsmartphone, engadget, etc) to spread the real news about their latest overpriced devices. And should I mention about the previous devices? And about their care for their costumers? Nah.. THIS MUST BE STOPPED! It's time to correct their problems or drop it!
REALLY PISSED OF WHAT HTC HAS BECAME.
If you want great out-of-the-box phone, dont buy HTC.
Sorry, but thats just the way things are. My TyTN was almost unusable out of the box...
As far as I know,that no PPC from HTC was usable right out-of-the-box. Beginning with Himalaya,which WM2003 was unable to wake me up in that time,that alarm was set(yes,4 years of developing makes the device almost perfect),via Hurricane sold as SDA II(unusable without skills in WM,now it is pretty good),to this piece of terrible device. I bought Raphael due to presence of technologies,I want to use. Without these technologies,I can keep my lovely Himalaya,that is working perfectly. Only some devices I know,was problemless and they have all working,that I was expected:Typhoon and Oxygene. So my favorite HTC's are all the time Himalaya and Typhoon/Feeler/Sonata and all other PPC's branded by HTC origin sucks. HTC is no more the old good HTC,that we know without its own mark(beginning with Hermes as TyTN...OMG that was a big s..t).
Taajuus said:
If you want great out-of-the-box phone, dont buy HTC.
Sorry, but thats just the way things are. My TyTN was almost unusable out of the box...
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Hehe in that case dont buy Nokia either. no top end nokia has working software when released.
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Hehe in that case dont buy Nokia either. no top end nokia has working software when released.
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True.
The difference is, that you cant customize or tweak Nokia software
At one time I had a working kaiser with a plan from AT&T, and all was good. Then i moved to the mid west and found that there was no 3g, and down right ****ty service everywhere I went. I loved my kaiser and decided to try and stick with it. Then one day god decided to strike down my kaiser and crack its screen. So I switched to Verizon and got a new phone. Just recently i ordered a replacement screen and me and my kaiser have reunited.
So here is the point of my story. I now have a kaiser with no cell phone service. I would like to install a Rom that is focused more on the pda side of the device and possibly disable some of the phone features and maybe stop it from trying to connect to at&t. Any suggestions? Thank you. : )
I did something simular with a Hermes that lost it's radio. All I did was delete the connection settings for GPRS and delete some shortcuts from the Program list. Not sure, but I think it's possible to re-asign the green phone key to something else but you'll need a reg hack or third part program to do it as far as I'm aware.
Other then that, press the little button on the top left hand side of the phone, then turn off "Phone." Hay presto.
Just install any ROM and dont turn the radio on.
well the big thing im looking for is a barebones rom with no extras for this phone running windows mobile 6.1
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well the big thing im looking for is a barebones rom with no extras for this phone running windows mobile 6.1
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There is a att stripped version in my sahred folders. No camera or mms in it though.
I am a die hard WM user - never used any other OS. Was awaiting WP7 for months!
It is a dumb blonde! Pretty, but useless.
1. Keyboard is good, but no option to longpress for numbers
2. Phone dialler - no option to dial name of contact on phone dialler
3. Can't search calendar for specific appointments
4. Office hub is useless - can't organize in folder, ending up with loooong list of documents.
5. Word mobile is hopeless for formatting compared to WM6.5
6. Adobe PDF documents - can't be organized in folders. Can't even rename files
7. No video calling
8. The stupidest thing: Can't transfer files from PC to phone. What the ^$%^$ !
I have to go to Dropbox every time!
Buy an android phone lol
6.5
Stay with a WM 6.5 device. I kept my FUZE but after some time with the Focus would NEVER use it or any other WM device again. I felt a lot like you do at first, but that quickly wore off the more I used WP7. If you already bought it and feel the way you do, sell it and get something else. I used to see a lot of rants like this months ago but see almost no posts like yours recently. I think you should have posted this months ago, you might have found some allies, but not today.
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Stay with a WM 6.5 device. I kept my FUZE but after some time with the Focus would NEVER use it or any other WM device again. I felt a lot like you do at first, but that quickly wore off the more I used WP7. If you already bought it and feel the way you do, sell it and get something else. I used to see a lot of rants like this months ago but see almost no posts like yours recently. I think you should have posted this months ago, you might have found some allies, but not today.
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Well said. I was going to say pretty much the same thing. I struggled going from WM to WP at first (I still miss swype dearly) but after a few days of WP7 I could never go back despite some shortcomings.
Goodbye 6.5
The things I thought I could not live without in WM6.5 have turned out to be silly. I don't know why I felt that way. Anyway, many apps I used on 6.5 are now available on WP7, and more coming daily. The news of the potential features in Mango take away many if not most of my concerns.
I think we need to remember that WP7 is very young still, iOS didn't have copy and paste also when it came out... Give it a year or so I'm sure WP7 will be up there.
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My grouse is that WM 6.5 had so many features that have been stripped down to the point that WP7 is inconvenient. Why strip down Office to a bare minimum? Why remove the smart dialler in the phone? Why remove the long press for numbers in the keyboard? Why no USB functionality? Moreover, there are inconsistencies within WP7 itself. Why no voice GPS? E.g., why no search option in calendar? Why no zune support for synching data files? Why no wifi tethering?
I am not comparing WP7 to other OS. I am comparing it with Microsoft's own previous product. 6.5 to 7 is meant to be an upgrade, but it is actually a downgrade.
Why deliver a stripped down product when the previous product (6.5) had all these? And now, they have to catch up with "updates" with all the attendant bad publicity, and poor sales.
They had 3 years to get it right. They had at least 8 months in the beta testing when people clamored for copy-paste.
Stupid clowns.
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My grouse is that WM 6.5 had so many features that have been stripped down to the point that WP7 is inconvenient.
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Agreed.
Why remove the smart dialer in the phone? Why remove the long press for numbers in the keyboard? Why no USB functionality?
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Agreed.
Why no Zune support for synching data files?
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Agreed.
Why no wifi tethering?
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That is a biggie, agreed. And let us not forget custom ring tones (sure you can sideload, but really MS screwed the pooch here).
I am not comparing WP7 to other OS. I am comparing it with Microsoft's own previous product. 6.5 to 7 is meant to be an upgrade, but it is actually a downgrade.
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In some important ways it is a downgrade, in other ways it is an upgrade. All in all WP7 may be better due to newer/faster hardware, yet the FAIL of lackluster Bluetooth integration, no rSAP, no custom ring tones, no way to sync files easily, no wireless tethering, etc, etc and yes etc is really a let down. MS always seem to go three steps forward and two steps back, then perhaps release ONE of the two 'lost' steps like it is a huge improvement and technology advancement. If MS does not get their act together and release what many consider normal features, the Android market will leave MS in the dust.
MS can do much better, so what is keeping them from reaching some simple goals every other major phone OS has been doing for many years (including MS' 6.x)? THAT is the real question.
I think the worst thing is the wifi sleep issue that no one can seem to find a fix for. I bought one a week ago and its been sitting in the box while I use my desire. I just can't use it properly without having the option to leave wifi on
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I think the worst thing is the wifi sleep issue that no one can seem to find a fix for. I bought one a week ago and its been sitting in the box while I use my desire. I just can't use it properly without having the option to leave wifi on
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I agree 100%. This issue and another big Wi-Fi issue are the bane of my existence on WP7. Anyone have trouble connecting to different Wi-Fi networks? This is by far the biggest nuisance I deal with. What I mean by this is, for example: I am at work all day connected to the office Wi-Fi. I come home and my Quantum refuses to connect to my home network. It tries to connect for about 15 seconds or so, then eventually gives up. The only way to get it behaving properly is to reboot the phone. Turning Wi-Fi off then back on, disassociating with all remembered networks, etc. all do nothing. Don't know if this is unique to me because there is just something specific about the networks I am connecting to that creates "The Perfect Storm" and throws the Wi-Fi off, or if this is a widespread problem. Either way, I can't wait until it is resolved.
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I agree 100%. This issue and another big Wi-Fi issue are the bane of my existence on WP7. Anyone have trouble connecting to different Wi-Fi networks? This is by far the biggest nuisance I deal with. What I mean by this is, for example: I am at work all day connected to the office Wi-Fi. I come home and my Quantum refuses to connect to my home network. It tries to connect for about 15 seconds or so, then eventually gives up. The only way to get it behaving properly is to reboot the phone. Turning Wi-Fi off then back on, disassociating with all remembered networks, etc. all do nothing. Don't know if this is unique to me because there is just something specific about the networks I am connecting to that creates "The Perfect Storm" and throws the Wi-Fi off, or if this is a widespread problem. Either way, I can't wait until it is resolved.
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I don't get this issue at all mate, i pretty much do the same - connect to a network at work, then go home, it automatically connects fine for me at either location. I also connect to Wifi networks at my parents and GF's mum's and it connects flawlessly to either one without any hassle.
Though i must admit, the ability to keep wireless on even when the phone goes to sleep is a must! It will however stay on if you plug the phone into its charger, though not always convenient.
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I agree 100%. This issue and another big Wi-Fi issue are the bane of my existence on WP7. Anyone have trouble connecting to different Wi-Fi networks? This is by far the biggest nuisance I deal with. What I mean by this is, for example: I am at work all day connected to the office Wi-Fi. I come home and my Quantum refuses to connect to my home network. It tries to connect for about 15 seconds or so, then eventually gives up. The only way to get it behaving properly is to reboot the phone. Turning Wi-Fi off then back on, disassociating with all remembered networks, etc. all do nothing. Don't know if this is unique to me because there is just something specific about the networks I am connecting to that creates "The Perfect Storm" and throws the Wi-Fi off, or if this is a widespread problem. Either way, I can't wait until it is resolved.
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I don't get this issue either except on my nook and I think my wireless router @ that location is the issue (pretty sure of it). The WPA only a select few ip addresses on certain mac addresses for some reason so if the address is taken by another device it doesn't connect I thought my router was smart guess I was wrong but once I forget the network and then reapply the security settings it connects, I have no problem with my other router.
After purchasing an Acer Iconia a500 , I realized that it isnt just WP7 users who whine and complain about the latest upgrades , its tech wide ! I mean some of the gripes you have are laudible ,but in the long run 6.5 is done , so if you long for that experience it wont last , sure theres still some people using Windows 98 , XP , but at some point it becomes so outdated it becomes useless, you will find wm 6.5 fits this category , sometimes you have to go back to go forward and that is the case with WP7 !
Trust me the "copy paste" function is useless , I havent even used it yet (or missed not having it) , As I said I have a tablet with Honeycomb on it , its really irratating hearing all the babies crying about updates , the damn OS has been out for a month and these crybabies are whining "it doesnt do this ,it doesnt do that" , the thing is like most devices that are new it will not have certain things right off the bat , yes the device can be rooted a plus , but somethings cant be changed yet , just like the missing api's wp7 , that stuff will come , theres so many talented people in XDA , JUST RELAX AND ENJOY THE RIDE!,
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After purchasing an Acer Iconia a500 , I realized that it isnt just WP7 users who whine and complain about the latest upgrades , its tech wide ! I mean some of the gripes you have are laudible ,but in the long run 6.5 is done , so if you long for that experience it wont last , sure theres still some people using Windows 98 , XP , but at some point it becomes so outdated it becomes useless, you will find wm 6.5 fits this category , sometimes you have to go back to go forward and that is the case with WP7 !
Trust me the "copy paste" function is useless , I havent even used it yet (or missed not having it) , As I said I have a tablet with Honeycomb on it , its really irratating hearing all the babies crying about updates , the damn OS has been out for a month and these crybabies are whining "it doesnt do this ,it doesnt do that" , the thing is like most devices that are new it will not have certain things right off the bat , yes the device can be rooted a plus , but somethings cant be changed yet , just like the missing api's wp7 , that stuff will come , theres so many talented people in XDA , JUST RELAX AND ENJOY THE RIDE!,
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Cease with this being reasonable and level-headed immediately! If you continue with this behavior, I will report you to the Mods and request your immediate removal and ban! How can we be expected to have every thread ruined with incessant back and forth bickering, passive aggressive flaming, and pathetic trolling if behavior like yours is allowed to continue on this forum?
ehh this is why i never liked windows 7
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Buy an android phone lol
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how about you post something useful..
This guy has a lot of good points.
" OFFICE HUB"
is a joke
microsoft word is such a pain to use that formatting within the document is impossible!!
there is no way to save formatting. so If I need to write everything in red. I have to hit format every single time and then select an option. that along with the keyboard taking up the entire length of the document.
BLEH!
adobe reader is the slowest pdf viewer ive ever used!!! and i remember using an 8125 and reading pdfs on it..
The wifi issues are a pain!! they are so the carrier can force us to use there data plan. I want to use WIFI why did i buy the phone with wifi capabilities if it wont even stay on!!
The contacts are again a pain to search through.
there is no way to delete lines within a conversation..
Or Deleting multiple text messages.
Microsoft is really falling short on this one.
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After purchasing an Acer Iconia a500 , I realized that it isnt just WP7 users who whine and complain about the latest upgrades , its tech wide ! I mean some of the gripes you have are laudible ,but in the long run 6.5 is done , so if you long for that experience it wont last , sure theres still some people using Windows 98 , XP , but at some point it becomes so outdated it becomes useless, you will find wm 6.5 fits this category , sometimes you have to go back to go forward and that is the case with WP7 !
Trust me the "copy paste" function is useless , I havent even used it yet (or missed not having it) , As I said I have a tablet with Honeycomb on it , its really irratating hearing all the babies crying about updates , the damn OS has been out for a month and these crybabies are whining "it doesnt do this ,it doesnt do that" , the thing is like most devices that are new it will not have certain things right off the bat , yes the device can be rooted a plus , but somethings cant be changed yet , just like the missing api's wp7 , that stuff will come , theres so many talented people in XDA , JUST RELAX AND ENJOY THE RIDE!,
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this has nothing to do with XDA.....
this has to do with Microsoft developing a poor operating software for my 499.99$ phone. This is a rant about the missing features that are obvious to a smart phone and you are saying relaxing dont worry.. this is what i purchased the phone for and it is severely lacking in a lot of areas.
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this has nothing to do with XDA.....
this has to do with Microsoft developing a poor operating software for my 499.99$ phone. This is a rant about the missing features that are obvious to a smart phone and you are saying relaxing dont worry.. this is what i purchased the phone for and it is severely lacking in a lot of areas.
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If you were missinformed of what WP7 was and could do at the time of your purchase, its your own fault... grab your 499.99$ and take it back, problem solved.
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this has nothing to do with XDA.....
this has to do with Microsoft developing a poor operating software for my 499.99$ phone. This is a rant about the missing features that are obvious to a smart phone and you are saying relaxing dont worry.. this is what i purchased the phone for and it is severely lacking in a lot of areas.
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I find it pretty funny people moaning about the lack of features WP7 has and how great Android and IOS are.
I had Android from the very start when hardly anyone knew what it was and i had that brick of a phone (although i quite liked it lol) called the G1.
Android was released on 1.0 software however i thought it was a practical joke no lie the battery would last 5 hours if you was lucky and the phone would heat up like a microwave oven besides the various other bugs etc including freezing up completely. It took Google 5 updates until we got the first named update "Cupcake" 1.5 before android was even half usable and had copy & paste etc. And to be honest it should of started on 1.5 so my G1 only got 1 decent update to 1.6.
Its the same with all the other android phones i have had the SE X10 did go from 1.6 to 2.3 only because legions of p*ssed off people including myself moaned at sony like there was no tomorrow when they said it would only get 2.1 (i think).
Etc Etc the point it Android is way too fragmented and buying a Android phone is like entering a lottery with regards to updates and added features etc.
Same with Apple it took them at least a year to add even copy & paste not too mention all the other stuff that was missing like MMS & Adobe Flash (ah yeah still ain't got that one).
Microsoft have given us a much better OS than both Google or Apple right off the bat and the amount of added features Mango is bringing is pretty amazing adding more stuff than 1 or 2 major android updates and even getting so things in the first year of WP7 that iPhone hasn't got after 5 years.