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Just browsing the HTC site and they have just released what i'm guessing is the hotfix for the sms problems.
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
just about to apply the fix and see what difference if any it makes.
Great news...going to try it on.
Although I hate their hotfix description:
"This update for HTC HD2 messaging lets you reach out to your friends and family with instant notifications. Keeping in touch has always been very important, and this update delivers just that: fast and reliable SMS messaging."
If it fixes a bug, let us know about it! No need to use nice sentences made up by the PR department.
messaging still takes a second or two to load up if there's a lot of messages, not sure about the issues sending texts or receiving them, not tested that yet, although i didn't really have that problem with my hd2
techdave said:
If it fixes a bug, let us know about it! No need to use nice sentences made up by the PR department.
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haha... totally agree......
I just installed the hotfix. I haven't had problems with sending and recieving sms. But it couldn't hurt to try it out.
But I have a big problem, with the sms list loading. It makes the sms-application very hard to use. and it is still very hard to use, after the hotfix.
first a rom update..that doesn't solve the problem....
then a sms-hotfix..that doesn't fix the problem...
what's next?
did you just say that the sms fix doesn't deal with the loading lag ?
definitely does not fix the loading lag. sigh
WHAT THE HELL !!!
What where we waiting for ???! Now that's really pissing me off...
First, the ROM doesn't fix the crackling and noises during the voice call despite bragging about that crystal sound clarity... And now.. the SMS fix...
What did they fix exactly ?
Xeon said:
WHAT THE HELL !!!
What where we waiting for ???! Now that's really pissing me off...
First, the ROM doesn't fix the crackling and noises during the voice call despite bragging about that crystal sound clarity... And now.. the SMS fix...
What did they fix exactly ?
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I think this fix was never intended to fix the lag while loading sms history. I is meant to fix the "sms stays in outbox" bug. Hopefully it does at least that .
Certainly didn't fix mine.
I'm on the newer ROM turkish 1.61.
Would it do any harm to install anyway?
To help you guys a little, is more of a walkaround, but i noticed in lock screen if a message has been recieved and i do the ,,slide to view,, there is no lag at all, other than that, this fix doesn.t fix anything...at least i don.t see any change on my device
I don't know about you, guys, but this fix created many problems in my GPRS data connection, connecting and disconnecting all the time, stopping Direct Push. Everything went back to normal after uninstalling it.
are you saying that this fix doesn't work?! are there still problem with sending sms?!
Didn't fix the lag for me either, what a joke. That garbage PR line is a spit in the face too.
this fix is not for the sms lag
Who's on first, What's on second?
Guys - when you say "it didn't fix it for me" can you be more specific about WHAT it didn't fix and what it DID fix - people are referring to multiple problems: SMS lag and SMS sitting in Outbox so it's not clear reading this thread which problem is still outstanding for people.
If SMS's are still sitting in your outbox then that's clearly a major problem with the "hotfix". If it's SMS lag, well I guess we'll need to wait for the next "hotfix"
Well I have to say, with this device just being able to send/receive sms properly seems to be a good step forward already.... Is it confirmed this fix deals with the outbox stuck issue?
I am getting pissed with HTC daily - i still think they didn't test the HD2 properly!. Just rushed the phone out the door
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Guys - when you say "it didn't fix it for me" can you be more specific about WHAT it didn't fix and what it DID fix - people are referring to multiple problems: SMS lag and SMS sitting in Outbox so it's not clear reading this thread which problem is still outstanding for people.
If SMS's are still sitting in your outbox then that's clearly a major problem with the "hotfix". If it's SMS lag, well I guess we'll need to wait for the next "hotfix"
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Exactly. People need to take a step back and stop posting incoherent babble about how annoyed they are. Clearly it doesn't fix the lag so the people who had the SMS outbox issue need to confirm it fixes that. Personally, I have never had the problem so can't say.
EDIT - just found this in another thread. It seems it doesn't fix that either.
Noam23 said:
Ok I have confirmation:
This fix does *nothing* to fix the sending problem.
It's easy for me to see this because unlike other people the sending problem happens for me 100% of the time.
Back to disabling HTC Messaging...
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Hey gang,
I've got a Captivate i896 with Rogers and was wondering if there was any way to enable the integrated voice control? I'm running 2.1.
Does anyone know why it was disabled?
Thanks!
Not sure what your specific interest is. Can you be more specific?
I'm not exactly sure which voice controls you're talking about. If you're talking about the voice commands that allow you to send texts and emails and the like that is only available in 2.2. It is not a feature that is disabled in 2.1, it just was never implemented.
Hey. Thanks for the replies.
I was under the impression I had the option to use the mic on my earphone to control my Android device. I'm assuming there is no way to enable it?
I am running 2.1, which would explain my I have none of the good stuff. Hopefully we get a CM 6.1 for the Captivate in the not to far future!
you can install vlingo.
the stock keyboards dont have the microphone button and i think voice control only works for google search but i could be wrong i haven't used a stock rom in a while.
I still don't know what you want to control on the device.
Voice dial phone numbers, if I remember correctcly, just cannot be done very well on 2.1 Vlingo makes an attempt, but not very good.
With Vlingo, you can read text and email messages into it, but you need to speak very clearly.
It will not, at least last they told me, open third party apps. The latest does, but I think it may require 2.2...not sure
Vlingo has a promising app for using in the Car. You can set it to automatically come up based on a specific BT you turn on. And you can have it set to be 'listening', so you don't even have to push a button. HYou just say "Hey Vlingo". and it asks what you want. Problem is it doesn't listen (BTW this does require 2.2). By that I mean it hears when I say Hey Vlingo, but after that its like the mic is shut off, and it does not hear. I don't know if that is a bug in Vlingo (it is beta), or the leaked Froyo Rom I am running.
All in all, things sound like we'll be there some day, but not now.
Google Voice Action (also requires 2.2) is more accurate for dialing (in my experience) than Vlingo. But it is opposite of Vlingo. Where Vlingo can come up with the push of a BT button, but not hear; Google won't come up wiht a BT Button, but when you push the search button to bring it up, at least it hears.
The android keyboard has the mic button and accepts my speach just fine
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Similar question: on 2.2 with the Google Voice Actions, is there any way to use them when not connected to wifi/3g? Anytime I try it says that there is no connection. I just want to call someone with it, not search. Should that require a connection also?
Sent from my Samsung Captivate.
Current rom: Cognition 2.3b3
Have you tried the Nuance Vsuite (Voice Commands) that's on the Fascinate? I can post the .apk and .so files if you're interested.
I've used the voice command stuff w/o being on WIFI a lot.
On the Nuance stuff, I'd be glad to test it.
BTW...there is someone in the Cognition thread working on a program that will call up the Google Voice Search via Blue Tooth. I am testing it for him, and it seems to be working for me. Not sure when he'll be making it available to general public. He wants to add some features.
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On the Nuance stuff, I'd be glad to test it.
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OK. The attached is from my stock D101 (Eclair) Fascinate /system. You can just flash the thing in with CWM if you like, or move the files yourself.
Disclaimer: I'm not responsible if something breaks
Being as I have a Captivate, and am on 2.2, not 2.1, what I think I'll do is hold off testing until I am ready to do a new flash. DG has a new Cognition 2.2 ROM out, actually based off of a Vibrant rom, which I may flash after I see how it is going for everyone else.
So when I'm to that point, I'll test this first on current ROM, and post back then how it goes.
Thanks for the files.
I would hope that voice control would work over bluetooth and without 3G or wifi. Wouldn't it be a function of the phone? I'd hate to have to pay Roger's every time I want to use it.
I'm probably going to wait till a CM 6.1 release for the Captivate before I do anything with it. Roger's will be releasing 2.2 to Captivate users some time in January 2011 (which could mean any time really). Hopefully CM comes first. By then, 2.2 will be out no doubt.
This may be a bit confounded, but it works for me. I use four apps for voice control.
For phone calls, I've found Vlingo to be the most accurate. (but not so great at opening apps). You can also say things like "call the nearest Walmart" or "call a taxi"
For opening apps, I've found Choice Dialer to be the best (but no so accurate at phone calls). It also has lots of other features I don't use.
For Google searching, maps & navigation I've found the regular voice search to be the best.
And for defining words, spelling, math, translation, and a bit of fun, I've found Edwin to be the best.
Hope this helps!
The way that google voice control works is that it records your voice command then uses the servers on the internet to interpret the voice command. This allows more powerful servers with billions of voice samples, which now includes yours, to accurately interpret the voice command and respond quickly. That's why it needs either wifi or 3g connection. I'm not sure how Vlingo does it. It was so buggy on my 2.1 that I uninstalled it.
Hey guys,
Thanks for the replies!
I flashed Cognition a while ago and it voice control (long hold on magnify glass) works beautifully! Exactly what I was looking for and works like a charm.
I tried a couple of applications like Vlingo and it doesn't work nearly as good as the native function.
I know this is specifically for Android, but there was not just generic area for questions such as this in the Android Forum.
Here is my situation. I am currently running Perception on my Captivate, so I know that BT Voice Commands are possible. However, both Google Voice Actions and VLINGO seem to be completely useless.
In the case of Vlingo, voice dialing doesn't even work properly, though I suspect this is related to the way Samsung has its contact setup. Every other command results in a web search, even ones listed under "What can I say?"
In the case of Google Voice, voice dialing does work properly, but it misunderstands me EVERY SINGLE TIME on anything else. Trying to say "Send text to" results in a "Good Bye" before I reach "to".
I need to know what I can do to fix this problem. I now have a car dock and would love to not cause an accident because Google's voice controls aren't working.
I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I guess I will bump this post since no one has commented so far. If this isn't the right spot to post this, could somebody please let me know where it is.
Hello al! I was wondering if any of you have this problem....
Friends show offline after some time using Gtalk or when switching from Wi-Fi to Mobile Data
I have to sign out and sign in again...
Anyone else has this issue?
I have the same issue, and it's pretty annoying. Don't know how to fix it
It's funny how there is no fix. Most probably its because many people use other chat clients.
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I would think GTalk is quite popular. Anyway I have been having this same issue, and it's really annoying!
It seems the problem is present on multiple devices, so it's likely to be related to Google Talk itself. In order to maximize the efforts to find a solution it's better if we focus on one topic only. The following one seems to have the greater number of replies so far:
Google Talk issue - after a few minutes Contacts are all offline when not
Sorry to necro, but it's either that or starting a new thread on this.
I have this issue myself on my Galaxy Nexus GSM.
It happens very regularly, and regardless of ROM/kernel. I've had various configurations and this issue has never ceased. I hoped Jelly Bean would finally fix it, but it hasn't.
I have tried everything under the sun. Clearing data, cache, etc. - I can't work it out. It seems like a server issue, yet I never had this problem on my previous Android (2.1, Galaxy Spica) and my friend (Desire Z) never has this problem, nor does my girlfriend on her Galaxy Note (with the same Gtalk version)
It boggles the mind.
Every so often, everyone just shows as offline, when they're not.
This happens on 3G and WiFi and doesn't seem to be an issue with handoff either. Sometimes I can rectify it by signing out/in, or simply by sending a message... but other times, that doesn't make a difference either.
Why does this happen??
On top of all this, Google Talk seems to have a lot of issues recently with delivering messages on time - to the point that my friend won't get the message (or I won't get theirs), and messages often appear out of order.
Has Gtalk just gone down the pan? It's weird, because we never seem to have any issues when both parties use it in Gmail on the PC.
Hi all,
I've done some searching on this and found some "general" instances of this happening in the official Sprint Community forums, but nothing of value and certainly nothing with particular application to the Shift.
I recently rooted and installed CM7.2RC2 on a family member's phone (not 7.2 final due to bluetooth bug). Although I'm no expert, I've rooted a number of phones and had no issue with the awesome directions provided on these forums.
Randomly, when making a call, the Shift dialer does not ring once "send" is pressed, but rather one only hears an "echo" of anything being said into the phone. On the other end, the call seems to connect normally; however, the recipient only hears an echo of their own voice as well. As such, the two parties cannot communicate, despite the fact that for all appearances the call is connected.
This occurs in the opposite situation as well. Seemingly randomly, if a call is placed into the Shift, the user of the Shift can accept the call no problem. However, once the call is accepted, the person using the Shift only hears an echo of their own voice. On the dialing end, the call appears to be connected, but that caller only hears an echo of their own voice as well.
The issue tends to occur in "blocks", like a few calls won't work, but then it'll work normally again all of a sudden. The phone might be fine for a few hours, then randomly it'll happen again.
I've attempted to downgrade to CM7.1, upgrade to the latest nightly, and use just about everything in between with no luck. I updated the radios to the current version again (also did this during the rooting process, updating the profile/prl/pri as well, before flashing CM). Last night I downloaded newSENSE in the hopes of flashing that tonight and using the Sense interface to update the Profile on the phone. However, I'm not sure that will do any good if I nan back to CM7.2RC2.
Just wanted to shoot this out to the rest of the group to see if anyone else might have had this same or a similar issue with their Shift. I've used CM/AOKP on my OG Evo since I brought it home and never experienced anything similar.
Thanks for any thoughts/input!
--DC
This happens to me on cm9.
I can still hear the other person, but I always hear a slight echo (not enough to make the conversation impossible)
Its annoying, but its not too bad.
As far as I know, the other person doesn't experience any echo.
Sounds similar...but the only difference is, with my issue, neither party can hear the other. All each party hears is a slight time-delayed echo of their own voice; not the other person.
When the issue occurs during a dial-out on the Shift, the caller on the Shift doesn't even hear the "ringing" of the phone on the other end to confirm that the call is being routed (although it is, and the person on the other end can pick up)...all the Shift user hears from the point where they press the dial key is an echo of what is on their end of the line.
It's very weird.
Also, if it helps, the phone has Google Voice integration enabled on Sprint. I'm seeing some posts saying that this may be the issue, although I'm not convinced since this problem never presented itself prior to rooting/flashing.
Thanks!
--DC
DamienChaos said:
Sounds similar...but the only difference is, with my issue, neither party can hear the other. All each party hears is a slight time-delayed echo of their own voice; not the other person.
When the issue occurs during a dial-out on the Shift, the caller on the Shift doesn't even hear the "ringing" of the phone on the other end to confirm that the call is being routed (although it is, and the person on the other end can pick up)...all the Shift user hears from the point where they press the dial key is an echo of what is on their end of the line.
It's very weird.
Also, if it helps, the phone has Google Voice integration enabled on Sprint. I'm seeing some posts saying that this may be the issue, although I'm not convinced since this problem never presented itself prior to rooting/flashing.
Thanks!
--DC
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Yeah, it hasn't been as bad as your situation.
This ROM has google voice installed on it, but I disabled it (i dont like it lol)
I honestly don't know what could be causing the echo.
I haven't tried flashing other roms to see if the echoing persists because it's not too much of a nuisance for me.
I don't know the cause of your issue, so not much help. But I can say I have had Voice integration setup for a while now, across all different types of ROMS and never experienced this problem. Everything from the new ICS/CM9 Roms, chinese ports and etc.. to me just having to unroot back to stock today, the integration has worked for me without a problem on everything.
I'm running NewSense and get an echo call once a day or so. Isn't continous and if I hang up and dial again it always goes through normally. I was running CM7 and UKE ROM and can't remember if I had the same issue so I just deal with it and assume it's a Sprint service glitch. As it's not terrible, I don't feel like reflashing just to see if that would fix it.
As a quick update: This morning I deactivated Google Voice integration on the line and the user has had not experienced the problem since I took that action (approx 14hrs of normal use sending/receiving numerous calls).
I'm going to reintegrate Google Voice on the line tomorrow, giving it 24hrs to be sure that was the issue, and will report back whether the problem returns.
In the interim, thanks again to all for your input!
--DC
After reintegration of Google Voice on Sprint, the issue reappeared immediately. As a result, I've just decided to forego Google Voice integration and instead set up conditional call forwarding. Not really a big deal; but still a very odd bug! Odds are I'll re-try the integration again at some point in the future, but for now call forwarding should be fine.
Oh well, hope this might help out someone else in the future!
same issue on Evo 4G LTE
I am experiencing exactly the same issue on my Evo 4G LTE. I have Google voice integration as well. I was told at a Sprint store that it is a known network issue (even happening on iphones) and that I should call Sprint and tell them where it was happening, but I'm pretty sure they have no idea it has anything to do with Google Voice, and I know the low level customer support rep that I get when I call *2 is not going to be helpful at all, nor will they accept the evidence that it is a GV issue. I really don't want to disable GV integration, but if that is what I have to do, I will.
Oh, and this is happening on a stock rom both with S-OFF and S-ON
Same thing on ET4G (S2), At first I thought it was a hardware problem so I took it to Sprint and they gave me a new phone. The problem persisted. Then I suspected it was Google Voice. I use GV's features all the time so disconnecting it from Sprint is not a preferable option. Has anyone made any progress on this?
If you read the other posts, he said that the only way to fix it that he found was to disable google voice. If you mean to ask if there is any workaround, I would not think so, but if you absolutely needed to use Google Voice, you could RUU back to stock (only if rooted) and then take it to Sprint to have them replace it
It might also help if you exaggerated your problems a bit, thats what I did and they gave me a new phone for no charge
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EDIT: Sorry ignore my post, I didn't read your post completely.
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As an alternative to Google Voice, you could always use something like Skyvie from the Play Store
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Just thought I'd update for posterity. The user of the Evo Shift 4g has been using a Photon Q since release with Google Voice integration. This week it started developing this same issues with calls in/out echoing with at least one party not being able to hear the other. Although the user of that handset loves GV, I think I might just turn off integration permanently and relegate GV to a voicemail service rather than an all-encompassing messaging client. Too bad, really. The integration was a great idea.