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I totally love touch flo but I am not sold that it is anything but eye candy and that other software overlays for WM6.1 might be better.
I was curious if there are people out there who have jettisoned touchflo in favor of something else, and what is that else?
Thanks for your opinions, input and software suggestions.
i go back and forth between wad and manilla
I googled WAD and was soured by what Google thinks I was referencing. )
What are you referencing? Manilla is TouchFlo right, but where does hte manilla come from? What is WAD?
WAD is Wisbar Advance Desktop, here you go:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
There are a lot of nice skins for WAD.
ufufu got it for you
yes manilla is "touch flo"
manilla comes from htc but has been reverse engineered by some developers on xda.
joel2009 said:
i go back and forth between wad and manilla
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i added wad to pda V10 and cant get it to work.. i disabled tf in today but wad still wont display weather etc..
its just a black screen
i really like the look of what wad is supposed to be..
any help is greatly appreciated
thanx
i see it the same way.. Manila2D/TF3D is good only for having your PDA look cool. it's not as useful as a PDA could get.
I set my UltimateLaunch to be as useful as i could using FEWidgets/Makecall (for speed dialing)/Rumball's weather/some internet icons and a networking plugin... and so forth.
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How do you feel wisbar advanced desktop comapres to SPB pocket plus, do you have any experience?
Glad to hear I am not alone with tf3d not being the ultimate in work horses, I will look into ultimate launch.
by blank screen does it actually look like a blank screen, or does it look like there is nothing on your today screen. wisbar has to be completely designed by hand, or you have to download a theme file.
go here for a theme and tutorial i have put together.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442813
I have the same question and thoughts - perhaps WAD or SPB mobile shell would be a better fit b/c of the greater potential for customization. Can anyone comment on the memory usage / responsiveness between tf2d and WAD or tf2d and SPB mobile shell?
the opposite here. i used to have ultimateLaunch, but when Manila (TF3D) was born, ditched UL and now I am a happy manila user... love the changing themes every now and then, and everything else that comes with it, e.g. great graphics (rain animation is nice) and the close to no maintenance. manila is a little less flexibile the UL, but, pros overcome cons, for me at least.
Okay guys & gals,
Just thought I'd start a topic about our Today Screen.
I love a good launcher program (which I believe is simply what a today screen is). It took me a while to get to like WM6.5, but I do now. The disadvantage is that I still have to press my Start Menu for other apps... and for 64MB Uni's the disadvantage is only too obvious.
I hope you don't mind me quoting, but this is what started me thinking...
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What I would like to do is set the programs screen ie the screen full of icons as the default when you start up the Universal. One less step and simpler for the end user.
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home screen plus is what yu need, i guess....
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Yeah, oh for a simple Today Screen. I'm with you there.
Why do we have one method of accessing our apps on the Today screen, and yet another from the Start menu. (And for me a third when I want to choose a game to play).
I suppose nobody has come up with something that everyone agrees on!
Hence we have such platforms as Android, maybe.
As phezthie says, HomeScreen PlusPlus is a cool app. However, if you can't find a theme that someone has made that you like, you must be willing to write a script. Personally I love this app, but spend too much time tweaking my scripts! Ouch
Another one is ThrottleLauncher. A lovely graphic approach, but a bit heavy/slow and a few bugs. Very easy to set up, though... but perhaps more of an interest with 128MB devices and maybe a little restricted.
Anyone got a great Today Screen or Launcher they think others would like?
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Hi Jonny
Interesting thread indeed
I used for a long time HTC Home large VGA by pj07 and I was very satified as I had all I needed on that home screen.
Now I´m using titanium but I´m agree with your comments above.
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Cheers,
I use Titanium too and its going pretty well for my needs till now.This his a good idea.
Hello thank you for starting this thread,as i am obsessed lately with this subject. I tried EVERYTHING that i could find,and so far,on my 64 MB uni,i can say only that i managed to find NOTHING in my taste.
Throttle launcher is awesome but no way it can work on my device,buggy and extremely slow,same as Pointui Home 2, with the POINTSENSE suite 2.0.0.6 looks awesome but useless on my device. For everyone with a 128 MB device i would recommend it,there are many many interesting skins/themes and applets on the Pointui website http://www.pointui.com/
Also,i am waiting for a new or fixed version of Touch Shell Pro ,which looks promising also,has some nice skins too, version now is 1.1.0.17,but has too many issues still,on my UNI at least.
http://www.touch-shell.com/
Also i tried FEWidgets Ultimate,again nice idea but too slow on my UNI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544874
There is now also this Sense UI Theme for FEWidgets Ultimate.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sense-ui-theme-for-fewidgets-ultimate.html
As for launchers,i tried plenty,most of them too slow ofc,the nicer ones
Easy Today Launcher is a nice today plugin,you can combine it with some others to make a nice today screen also :
http://www.loffactory.webs.com/
MyAction is a nice launcher you can pick up here versions 1.1 and new 2.0 :
http://www.8080.pl/
This one looks real nice but was way too slow on my 64 mb - Touchlaunch :
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touchlaunch.html
And for last,the best thing i found to be part of my today screen,is a skin for marsware weather panel 2009 - here is the whole thing :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401781
When i get time i will put some more up,when i remember them,i really tried a lot of things out. And i really really wish that my UNI has 128 MB
I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
Complexity
Jonny
Thanks for starting this thread. I have also played with a number of the Today screen graphical setup programs, some are quite good. However, since upgrading to 6.5 I quite like the standard program screen that comes up when you select start.
My question is why do we need any of these today screen programs, when the icons and screen are already there. We really don't want to add any more complexity to the setup or anything else to use up precious memory.
I originally asked the question to see if there was just a way of bypassing the today screen altogether, so that the standard program screen came up by default.
Now thanks to you we have the collective minds thinking about it.
@gewin:
I actually got your idea. But couldn't find the function OS calls (@shell32.exe) when you hit on start menu.
Once we get then it is just the easy part....
I use SPB Pocket Plus, because it can handle other today plugins in different tabs. And it runs quickly on UNI64...
Thanks guys, this has been very informative. Especially to PalDragon for all the review... I'm going to give some of those a try. Cheers. What do others think?
MyAction - I found I didn't like. It looks ok if you use all the icons, otherwise you have half a screen full of blue +'s. I would prefer slide to screen, rather than use of a Prev/Next button. You also need to add all the apps yourself, it wasn't self-populating.
TouchLaunch - like. However only 1 item per line means a lot of scrolling, and the scrolling can be quite slow. Nice that you can make categories. Latest version here. Smooth (on my 128MB Uni)
EasyToday Launcher - @gewin, this is what you want! It's not self-populating, but I do like it. And as PalDragon pointed out, you can add other Today items with it, if you wish.
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I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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i completely agree, its not free though but worth it...
Hi Jonny.. can you please attache some pics of your today screen if you haven't yet, I use HTC Home its got all i need even wheather, Messaging etc... But i wonder if its possible to add some applications to the wm6.5 on that cool up down slide. This made me stop using HTC Home but now i have some app's missing on my today.
my today screen is unintersting. I use WM6.5 'Ron Arad Orange' with CHome editor* for my apps (piccy1). I used to have weather plugin* but this seemed to make my GPS navigation freeze intermittently. I use QuickMenu* for my task switcher (piccy2) and iReflect icons* in my start menu (piccy3) with honeycomb start menu*. (Also, once used ATContacts widget*).
However I am still looking for a good 'app launcher' for games. I use fexploreext* set to 'Icon View' (see piccy4&5). Sadly fexploreext doesn't seem to work in WM6.5.1
I did once create a HomeScreen++ theme* for back when it was BatteryStatus, but haven't kept it up to date. It also had weather. The funny thing about weather widgets is that whenever I want to look at the forecast, I always want to update it ... so it seemed reasonable to stick with weather from an internet page! (perhaps because in UK weather is so changeable, I don't know!)
however, I am beginning to like SPB Mobile Shell (unsure how long the trial is for). What themes are people using? enigma1nz? phezthie?
FEWidgets and throttlelauncher seem similar, but a poor mans copy?
*if you want any of these files, just PM me.
spb mobile shell is really impressive and powerful (the latest is v3.5), ive been using ms v2 since tomal's 8.5. however, based from my experience, v3.5 is not advisable using tomal's wm6.5 roms (v9 & 10) due to slow response and occasional freeze. same with other wm6.5 cooked roms i tried, the reason why ram upgrade is imperative, at least for me, to enjoy the latest rom with latest spb.
off course, another solution i think is if our great uni rom chefs will always consider releasing vanilla of their great work...
UltimateLaunch
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/index_en.html
Setup is a bit of a hassle (I've been messing around in Android, so a lot of Windows Mobile/Phone stuff seems more complex to customize), but if you're willing to put in the time, it's a rock solid-app and can customize to a T. It's also the least memory-hungry of what I've tried.
The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't accommodate rotation very well unless you count out pixels and just set it up so that in landscape it looks good even though the bottom of your screen is cut off.
I've tried Lakeridge (think Titanic, flashy, but *will* crash), ThrottleLauncher, Win6.5, SPB, SBSH. I keep coming back to this.
I used most of the GI app there and i liked WAD2. and i used with my custom theme when i was in wm 6.1, now with 6.5 due to memory issue i can not run it. so i'm using titanium with some customization.... see pic's below...
Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
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Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Thanx a lot Guyz...
i envy you mate
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i envy you mate
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He he
common guys no comment on titanium ....
Titanium today is very cool, but is there another transparent today screen for wm6.5 apart from Manila 2d?
Thanks
Dunno what else you could mean by transparent but there is also Pointui spb mobile and wisbar. They are not so easy to work with. Spb mobile I think, is the easiest and Pointui can be very attractive.
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Dunno what else you could mean by transparent but there is also Pointui spb mobile and wisbar. They are not so easy to work with. Spb mobile I think, is the easiest and Pointui can be very attractive.
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A 1 + for pointui
Throttlelauncher is a good option, you can configure it at your own taste using themes (even Iphone, Android, TF3D, BB, GSmart imitations or some themes specially made by a person or for a person with some useful and nice aspects) or taking some of the themes and making your own one. You can add widgets, flash, and WM-Today plugins into the panels of ThrottleLauncher.
You can do a search here in xda-dev's or go to www.throttlelauncher.com
* NOTE * I experienced some problems running TL if my device is low of memory *BUT* I continue using and recommending it (and trying to put it into my cooked ROMs) - I run it with Kaiser and with Herald both WM6.5.1 now.
He means transparent toolbars
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He means transparent toolbars
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Yes, some of the TL themes do have transparent toolbars depending of the PNG's that the theme uses. As they are capable to disable the toolbars of WM you can use full screen themes with their own (or without any) toolbars - where they can be configured as the theme developer, or the user, like to.
Moved this thread outside of Dev and Hacking where it did not belong.
transparancy is possible in wm6.5, means what you want is practically can be done.
Thnx a lot for your replies friends.
In fact i was looking for new today screen with transparent taskbar.
Throttlelauncher can be very good. Will give this a try.
is there something available?
Ooooh nice idea. But Star trek xi or TNG version ? I made an LCARS theme for the Kaiser a few years ago, might do so again when I get the time.
I found out that there is a really cool theme for WM-devices, but unfortunately only for QVGA and VGA screen resolutions:
http://www.pocketlcars.com
If this were available for WVGA (480x800) it would be absolute fantastic!!
Maybe, if many people ask the developer for it, he will also release a WVGA version??? I think, it's worth a try!
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I found out that there is a really cool theme for WM-devices, but unfortunately only for QVGA and VGA screen resolutions:
http://www.pocketlcars.com
If this were available for WVGA (480x800) it would be absolute fantastic!!
Maybe, if many people ask the developer for it, he will also release a WVGA version??? I think, it's worth a try!
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Wow, just tried the VGA version of LCARS and its amazing. Quality is ok even at WVGA resolution. You do lose a lot of the functionality from SenseUI, but I was just running LCARS just to show off the phone to some trekies it's fun to watch them squirm and beg to own the PADD...eh, I mean phone
I also tried VGA version of LCARS but the text isn't displayed right - some words aren't readable, it's not really compatible to WVGA devices.
But i contacted Neil (the creator) and he is willing to make a WVGA version but the problem is that he doesn't have a WVGA device.
Therefore i recommended him to start a donation thread at XDA - in order that he will be able to buy a HTC Touch HD or HD2 and can start working an making a WVGA version of pocketLCARS.This would be really cool!
Maybe possible
Last year I developed a network monitoring program for my company based on lcars. Normally the font is still ugly but if you activate cleartype the font will be rendered and is still readable
which version of Lcars are you trying ? the original or the newer one based on WAD2?
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15903
I already used the lcars.ttf which should be the original one.
New version is up!
Guys, Pocket LCARS Touch is now available!! Supports QVGA, VGA and WQVGA resolutions. There are matching Windows Media skins, a gCalc skin and a Weather Watcher Mobile skin.
www.PocketLCARS.com
Hey guys,
I don't have a LCARS theme to offer, but I prepared a nice little gif animation that I use for SMS notifications. It's the old fashioned red alert symbol. Since Star Trek fans got to stick together, here it is.
Let me know if you like it.
Cheers,
the_at
Does this run well? Is it smooth enough and easy to navigate?
Let me know...really interested.
Thanks. Rik
LCARS on HD2
hello from Germany.
I just bougth LCARS Theme from PocketLcars.com
I doesnt run on my phone.
I install it like it stays in the readme.txt
Can someone help me??? PLEASE. I need THIS THEME
Why don't you just contact the company? Creator? He will sort any problems out with you.
Have you install this Theme on your HD2 ? Does it work?
Hi Pretoria,,
did you get it to work?
Please let us know!
regards
Coolity
CHT 1.8.5 was just great, but what are your thoughts and experiences about CHT 2.0?
one word: A-WE-SO-ME!
Haven't really used it much since 1.8.5 does everything I need. I can see it being very useful for most, but I prefer 1.8.5. Now that the final is released I may give it another shot, beta was VERY buggy for me. But I'm not sure I can handle the look of it, either. Not trying to bash it, just saying over all I prefer 1.8.5.
its up there mate. the team should be employed by htc earning big bucks for being able to create this....
Hi all.
For me is just the best and most useful software I have for my HD2.
In fact, since I discovered CHT, CHTE and CHTS I don't use any more Spb Phone Suite, Spb Mobile Shell, Spb Pocket Plus and SBSH Phone Weaver.
Splendid app, well done, robust and free to use, (please, if you use it, pay CHT Team a beer, they deserve)!
I think 2.0 is fantastic, the star of the show though for me is CHTS.
Soooooo much time and hassle saved by being able to restore my sense layouts in a matter of seconds
all CHTs and CHT 2.0 are FABULOUS!!
But I think the phone button in the home screen should be changed into something more usefull like "all people" for instance..?
anistoona said:
all CHTs and CHT 2.0 are FABULOUS!!
But I think the phone button in the home screen should be changed into something more usefull like "all people" for instance..?
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you can change it via cht editor....
To me it's like a whole new software .
Better than Spb better than Sense itself .
Still trying to work it all out to be honest .
It's keeping the HD2 alive in my humble opinion .
Now if only WP7 looked like this ........
problem
i really like cookie home tabs. i have been watching and installing since the first versions. however one time i discovered that to uninstall cht is impossible. i tried so many versions of cht, but on every single of this vers. i had to hard reset to uninstall cht. And nowadays i had a hope that; with 2.0 this problem had solved, unfortunately i see still i cant uninstall it, please help me about situation without advising to hard reset
continue
i am using 1.48 hspl and dutty v7 com2 rom
CHT is almost Sense how it should have been originally! Its brilliant!
CHT2.0 is the 1st time I've "mod'd" the htc hd2. I am impressed but have some questions which havent been answered by the manual or the cht2.0 thread.
1. The clock only appears on the 2nd page across, making me think on the initial install that there was a problem since it shows the 1st page on initial startup. How can I get the clock to display on all pages.
2. When you scroll down (yes down not up) from the clock you get a mini clock and alot of blank space, can quick links be added to this page, cant see an option to.
3. What other cool things can CHT2.0 do that I havent discovered yet?
Would also be nice if CHT fixed the alarm limitation of wm6.5 but I guess I need to find an app for that.
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CHT2.0 is the 1st time I've "mod'd" the htc hd2. I am impressed but have some questions which havent been answered by the manual or the cht2.0 thread.
1. The clock only appears on the 2nd page across, making me think on the initial install that there was a problem since it shows the 1st page on initial startup. How can I get the clock to display on all pages.
2. When you scroll down (yes down not up) from the clock you get a mini clock and alot of blank space, can quick links be added to this page, cant see an option to.
3. What other cool things can CHT2.0 do that I havent discovered yet?
Would also be nice if CHT fixed the alarm limitation of wm6.5 but I guess I need to find an app for that.
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1. Pin it!
2. Use free links!
3. Dunno what've you discovered
It's the only reason I consider using WM 6.5. I've been trying Android for the last few months and love it, but battery is my issue. Co0kie is the ONLY thing that tempts me back to the Windows fold - it's just amazing.
If Microsoft had pulled their finger out and got the HTC Sense + Co0kies team in five years ago, they could have owned the Smartphone market - along with an app-store, of course.
co0kie, you are THE interface for WM6.5, no doubt. Long may you live, you genius.
masterpice
i know that CHT 2.0 is awesome and has lots of features added to 1.8.5. But for me, CHT 1.8.5 is just perfect in terms of usage and efficiency. For this reason, I really don't mind sticking to it instead of using 2.0. I' m not really so much for widgets, quicklinks are just fine.
Its the most awesome thing ever happen to HD2. At first I was convinced that HD2 is upgradeable to WP7 but later was screwed over. CHT is the saving grace for HD2. In my opinion, CHT Final Release 2.0.0 still have some bugs here and there but its all good if you know how to work around it. Plus you're not gonna fiddle around it all the time after you've got what you've wanted. On the other hand, CHT 1.8.5 is a very very stable version although it lacks some cool features ie. Free Links, Wobble effect and many more. But still, I think its the most versatile mod out there for HD2 compared to SPB, MaxSense and others. Currently on Dutty's v7 COM2 WWE ROM, CHT 2.0.0, CHTE 2.0.0 and finally worth mentioning MrBEOTP2's v3 mod for CHT and have no complains or what-so-ever.
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CHT 1.8.5 was just great, but what are your thoughts and experiences about CHT 2.0?
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I have to turn back to CHT 1.8.5 'coz I miss my wallpaper change every 30 min by WAPAC 1.4.CHT 2.0 ,still not there yet.Something still missing..
well, this wasn't love at the first sight.. I didn't like 2.0 after 1.8.5 very much and went back to 1.8.5. later, when I get bored without new impressions, I decided to try 2.0 again... and fell in love and now with CHTS I can't imagine my HD2 without these really cool applications that can do almost everything and more