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Hey All, I'm very excited here , my new 8125 will be in my hands Wednesday. The first thing I would like to find is a weather program to install. I use xWeather on my Treo 650, it gives me nice radar views. I would love to have something like that for my 8125. I wonder, can I try loading the Treo 650 program on the 8125 or is that a No No. So ware do I go to find down loadable programs for my 8125. I go to mytreo.net for tons of free stuff and trial programs for the 650, is there a place like that to go for my new 8125? Watch ya say guys? Thanks...
As far as Weather Programs -- there's WeatherPanel by Marsware, Spb Weather, and Sbsh Pocket Weather that I'm aware of.
As far as other apps -- go to Handango, Pocketgear, Freewareppc, or pocketpcfreewares. Or, just do a google search for "PPC APPS".
Another suggestion is to mosey over to the Cingular Customer Forums and do a forum search for "8125 apps" to see what kinds of programs some of us are running on our 8125's.
Thanks newbie2 for all the info. I went to all that you mentioned and did the google search and found lots more; way cool ! I like very much the Marsware WeatherPanel also, I will put that in the new 8125 first thing and for 12 bucks I will buy it also. I sure hope my new 8125 comes with a data transfer cable or I will be bummed out big tme. LOL
zac123 said:
I sure hope my new 8125 comes with a data transfer cable or I will be bummed out big tme. LOL
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It comes with the USB sync cable to connect to your computer to sync AND for downloads -- so, you're all set!!
Thanks for the info on what the unit comes with, that's a relief!! I set up folders and book marks for all this new stuff so I'm all ready. I been waiting for Fed-X, my package is out for delivery. I down loaded Weatherpanel and am ready to install that also. I'm used to getting stuff for my Treo 650 and having to install .prc files for programs. It was interesting to see that the weatherpanel has a .exe extension and it seems as though programs for the 8125 mda set up as if you are doing regular computer installs; hence the name Pocket PC. This is neet stuff... Now ware is that truck..........
New 8125 came in yesterday, I am loving it. I stayed up late to get it set up the way I want and all is fine, everything from syncing to E-Mail to Wifi is all done. My 1Gb sd card will arrive Friday then I will install Weatherpanel, with that install I guess I just use the explore from the hot sync manager and put the program in a folder and just double click the .exe file. I'm really not sure how to install programs yet to the phone, any info would be great. I use 4 E-Mail addresses and having to switch between each one to check them all is a pain. With my Treo 650 I used Snapper Mail and it checked all accounts one after another automaticaly. Is there an E-Mail program for my 8125 that will work the way Snapper Mail does? I looked briefly for Snapper Mail for Pocket PC's but still no luck. Again any info is appreciated. Thanks All....
For an .exe install, you want to install from the desktop through ActiveSync. Just double-click the program's install icon -- the installation will start on your desktop and go through the ActiveSync connection to install to your phone.
To install a .cab file, drag and drop ( or copy and paste) to your phone through Active Sync ( I ususally put .cab files onto the SD card). Then just navigate to it on the phone through File Explorer, tap on the file and it will begin the install process.
If your SD card is in your phone, you'll be asked at the beginning of the install process whether you want the program installed to the device or storage card. Just make your choice, click "install" and the installer will do the rest.
Sorry -- don't know about any programs for multiple email accounts. It's all I can do to keep up with just ONE!!
yes you can run Palm OS 5.2 (or older) on your PPC!
Just visit http://styletap.crmhelp.net/?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=5
but know that is not freeware. But I still prefer WM5 apps
Now I know Windows Update on WM6 doesn't work for the Wizard - It connects to the m$ update site but doesn't find any updates. I tested this previously with the MB ROM and used a sniffer to see what was going on and it does indeed connect to the windows update site using HTTP.
In Faria's WM6 ROM he has removed Windows Update by physically removing some files from the ROM and deleting some registry settings as well as commenting out a line in the 'initflashfiles.dat' file. I have attempted to re-add Windows Update to his ROM with some sucess, however I am not quite there yet....
I have restored 'autoupdate.exe' and 'AutoUpdateRes_wpc.exe.0409.mui' as well as a registry setting [HKLM\System\Autoupdate] and it's settings and uncommented the line in the 'initflashfiles.dat' file to add the shortcut back. Now Windows Update is available and when I open it it opens OK but fails to connect when I select update now. It then sort of hangs and can only be closed using Task Manager or similar.
Are there any other files or settings that need restoring to get this back. I understand it doesn't work but my curiosity is getting the better of me
Thanks
Andy
I thought I read (maybe here) that when someone did the update, they actually had a theme file that was available and it downloaded that.
No packets sent?
I have been playing around with the Windows Update application and it starts fine. If I select 'Check Now' it immediately comes back with the Error screen telling me 'connection to update server was not available....'. If I click OK and then attempt to end the application it just stays on the screen and the only way to stop it is to use Task Manager and terminate the process
I have also put a sniffer on the port my Wireless AP connects to and cannot see the Wizard transmit anything when I click select 'Update Now' (I have verified I can access the internet with IE and I can see this OK with the sniffer).
Does anyone know what I am missing to at least get the Autoupdate.exe application to attempt to connect as it did with the MB ROM?
Thanks
Andy
Anyone
Can I bump this up as I want to get this working and re-added to my ROM (I know it doesn't actually work but I would like the functionality restored anyway).
I have restored the files:
autoupdate.lnk
autoupdate.exe
AutoUpdateRes_wpc.exe.0409.mui
Added the registry settings:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Autoupdate]
"DetectionCookie"="0"
"IntervalEndTime"=dword:f0
"IntervalStartTime"=dword:3c
"OmaDmSessionTimeout"=dword:258
"NextRunNormalInterval"=dword:93a80
"Automatic"=dword:0
"OTA"=dword:0
And restored the line to the initflashfiles.dat:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("Windows Update.lnk","\Windows\autoupdate.lnk")
There must be something else I am missing as it never attempts to connect and hangs when trying to exit the application. I restored the files from the MB ROM to Faria's ROM as he didn't include the originals.
Thanks
Andy
I would very cautious about re-adding windows update to a beta evaluation ROM (all our WM6 roms are!!!!).
It will do no good, only harm, I think, since Windows Update as well as a few other components in these beta WM6 are actually there only to call home and manage the beta evaluation.
My position of this is that you want to remove as much as possible all these pieces of software, essentially to avoid the call-home feature and the ROM expiration process, without breaking the ROM, of course.
So, I recomment to leave Windows Update out, SQM and other modules, ceipui, the remote provisioning mechanisms, etc. I've already talked about this in diffent threads, but I'll try to post a summary of my findings in the short future.
Regards,
--eluth.
I understand and accept the implications but I would prefer it if this was restored to my ROM.
I am just after some help as to what I am missing to restore this functionality
I have listed what files and settings I have restored but AutoUpdate is obviously missing something based on it's behaviour.
Anyone?
Anyone?
Anyone know what I am missing? Surely some of the cookers on here who have removed the Windows Update from their ROMs know what they removed?
That's all I am after; not too big a task I assume?
Andy
ADB100,
I could not tell you what is missing, but I do know that it is enabled in mUn's ROM. Because I did the same as you. Hooked it up to a sniffer and looked at the packet exchange between my Wizard and the MS update site..
Regards
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ADB100,
I could not tell you what is missing, but I do know that it is enabled in mUn's ROM. Because I did the same as you. Hooked it up to a sniffer and looked at the packet exchange between my Wizard and the MS update site..
Regards
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It's enabled in the original Orwells, the MB Edition, mUn's and Faria's Vanilla WM6.
However I still can't find what I am missing to get it back in my re-heat of Faria's latest 'Real Thing'.....
Andy
you are missing SQM .
ps;
there is WM6 ROM for a windows ppc that has time bomb....plus microsoft can expire your rom by update if they want.... the update feature uses .pkg and this settings will stay after hard reset.... so they can use it for any means,and so can anyone that can compile 1 of those packages. just to let you know.
faria said:
you are missing SQM .
ps;
there is WM6 ROM for a windows ppc that has time bomb....plus microsoft can expire your rom by update if they want.... the update feature uses .pkg and this settings will stay after hard reset.... so they can use it for any means,and so can anyone that can compile 1 of those packages. just to let you know.
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All the SQM files are present and the SQM settings in the registry are identical
What else could be missing?
Also, Which rom as the timebomb and how do we find it?
hi, anibody have this files:
autoupdate.exe' and 'AutoUpdateRes_wpc.exe.0409.mui'?
Thanks
I don't have it handy, but go find the original Ingenetics dump that was posted here (do a search) and I know it has those files in it.
Andy,
The original dump by Ingenetics was pulled a few days after he posted it. But I think this link has it. Good luck on your quest.
http://rapidshare.com/users/T4RZX2
i'm sure this is a repost as this was quite a popular application i used back in the hey day of pocket pc's, it still works on my 6.0 dash and shadow fine...
this program is to install programs that are in the form of .exe directly to your phone instead of having to do it connected to a computer... basically making a .cab file uncessary, but cabs are still more efficient
http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~hall/dweller/
I am not the type of person that does hacks or uses cooked ROMs, but since I have been told that Win 6.1 is not forthcoming for my Treo 750, can someone please tell me in simple terms how to install it? I am in the US, have AT&T for my provider, and have a Treo 750.
Here is what I have tried:
I already have the 60+ MB cheeimg.nbh file sitting on the root folder of my 2GB Storage Card. I tried many times - hold down the push-to-talk button and then push the reset button. Nothing happens, except for three bright colored bars. Or am I not waiting long enough? I dunno.
I read that the Storage Card is supposed to be reformatted to 32-bit (or something like that) - I don't have a tool for this, and all my apps are installed there. I don't want to lose everything. Or will I anyway? Is there some sort of SD card reformatter?
I have downloaded things like the CheetahUnlocker.exe, the RUUWrapper.exe, the Treo750Radio1[1].54.07.00.rar file, and the Treo750_OS5_2_19199WWE_STD.rar file. I don't know what to do with them.
I don't want to unlock this phone; I am still going to run it on AT&T, I just want the 6.1 OS, that's all. It is getting silly. I was going to just buy another phone, but really, the 750 is fine - it runs great. I just want to try the 6.1 OS. If it is even better than 6.0, then great.
My wife wants me to just junk it and get an iPhone, like she has. I don't want to do that, the 750 is great for me.
Oh, well, guess no help here
Just so you know, I am not trying to trick anybody, and get them in trouble, or anything. Surely, someone has been able to get WinMo 6.1 installed on their AT&T-branded Treo 750.
You just need to search a little harder, but the wiki is where you should start.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Cheetah_Upgrade
Well, here goes...
I copied every single file on my Storage Card to my PC, as a backup, just in case I needed anything. I downloaded the 6.1 cheetah file mentioned here.
I didn't know how to format my Storage Card to Fat32, so I googled 'format storage card windows mobile' and found a program called Flash Format, on CNETX. It has a trial version. I installed it to my device (not the Storage Card, obviously), and it formatted the Storage Card drive to FAT32 in a few seconds. Then I followed the steps shown here.
I rebooted, and guess what happened? It set my OS to Australia's at WM6.0, not 6.1.
[email protected]$%@#$%!!!!
So I started up the old 6.0 updater that I got from Palm, and it said nope, you already have a newer version.
%&*%&*&^!!!
So, I started it back up, and stopped at the first screen. Then I searched my PC for the payloads.xml file, and found it, and the 6.0 CHEEIMG_FW.nbh file, renamed it to CHEEIMG.nbh, stuck it into my Storage Card folder, and started the bootloader.
I rebooted, and guess what happened? I am still at the Australian version.
*#%^&%&!!!
Ok, finally figured it out - whew!
Look, if this happens to you, do this:
1. Launch the Official Palm updater (Treo750_2_25_ATT_EN_DesktopUpdater.exe).
2. When the window pops up, do not click Start. Instead, do a search on your PC for a "payloads.xml" file.
3. Edit that file; change the high version to 2.3
4. Now, click the start button on the updater.
I kinda liked the Australian version, because it had MSN Messenger and some other things that AT&T USA did not have. But it also was missing the AT&T Proxy app. And it seemed to run slower?, I dunno, although it did work fine for me.
Oh, well, I guess I don't want WinMo 6.1 that bad!
I was scared there for a while - this is silly. Other people have WinMo 6.1, but I will never have it for my Treo 750? I guess they are not in the business of supporting old phones, just selling new phones.
I guess I will just stay with the old WinMo 6.0 until this phone eats it. Then I will buy a new phone.
Why are you being so dramatic? Of course you can have 6.1 on your phone ... it's really not all that difficult.
First, you have to run Hard SPL. Instructions and the download are a 'sticky' on the top of this forum. You must do this step. If you don't the OS upgrade won't work.
Then use the SD card method to upgrade your OS to 6.1. Forget editing payload files and the like. It's simple and works.
I know you said you don't want to unlock your phone, but honestly, it makes no difference to your ability to use the Treo on the AT&T network by doing so. In fact, you won't even know your phone is unlocked.
Thank you very much. It works now.
Okay, I didn't know that I needed to unlock the phone (and that unlocking would not affect my AT&T service). Thanks. I thought people only unlocked phones when they were going to sell them for use with another carrier. This is my first unlock.
Steps included:
1. Connect the Treo 750 via ActiveSync to your PC.
2. Run the CheetahUnlocker.exe program.
3. Ignore the stuff that says Hermes, and just click the buttons.
4. (If you didn't do this already), get FlashFormat from CNETX, and install it on your Treo 750, then run it to format your Storage Card to FAT32.
5. Copy the WinMo 6.1 cheeimg.nbh file to your Treo's Storage Card, in the root folder.
6. Hold down the PTT button and then click the reset buton under the Storage Card door.
7. You now have Win Mobile 6.1. Whoo hoo.
Hmmm. Now my Voice Command app is gone
That is wierd. I had Voice Command before, (on my Treo 750) and now it is gone. Anybody ever have this happen?
Voice Command and Remote Desktop were not part of the WM6.1 build as far as I can tell. At least not on the one I'm using (Full version, not Lite).
You can get the CAB files for each of those and install them separately. I did install the Remote Desktop, but don't use VC, so never bothered. I did see that some people were saying that older versions of VC 1.6 were having issues, but it seemed to be hit-and-miss.
Sorry I don't have the links handy, but I'm sure they can be found with Google.
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Voice Command and Remote Desktop were not part of the WM6.1 build as far as I can tell. At least not on the one I'm using (Full version, not Lite).
You can get the CAB files for each of those and install them separately.
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I looked, and lo, I found the CAB files. Thanks for the info.
where did you find the CAB files. I'm trying find out those file....
thanks
has anyone managed to get epocrates installed and working on a WM 6.5 rom?
or is there someway to resize Thomson's Clinical Xpert for VGA screens?
I've recently flashed the stock ATT fuze rom to one of Da_G's WM 6.5 roms. It's fast, stable, and has great battery life (currently sitting on my desk after 26 hrs+ w/ maybe 10% remaining, which is a tremendous improvement from the <12 hrs i was getting). Everything is fine and dandy, but the most important software for me does not work.
Epocrates installs but does not perform the initial autoupdate. it simply stalls at the update screen. I've tried both the wireless installation and desktop installation and both do not work. Speaking to their tech support, I've found that WM 6.5 is currently unsupported. Anyone get this working on a WM 6.5 rom?
In the meantime, i've installed Thomson's Clinical Xpert, but it's interface was probably designed for QVGA screens so the drop-down menus are not navigable on my VGA device. how can i go about resizing the application for a VGA screen (either through modification of the CAB file or if there is any application that can alter the resolution/stretch it)?
thanks.
workaround in this post below
Having the exact same issue- any help will definitely be appreciated. I love the new 6.5 interface and would prefer not to go back to 6.1 unless absolutely necessary
Same here. I just spent an hour trying to load Epocrates until I found this thread. I like the WinMo 6.5 much better than 6.1, but unless someone can find a workaround I guess I will have to revert.
wctom said:
Same here. I just spent an hour trying to load Epocrates until I found this thread. I like the WinMo 6.5 much better than 6.1, but unless someone can find a workaround I guess I will have to revert.
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Same here. However, I did revert back to 6.1, still no luck on installing Epocrates. Even disabled the Microsoft encryption setting. Still no go.
what wm6.5 build is everyone using? i've so far only tried it on Da_G's 21198.
i'm really surprised that epocrates won't install on wm6.5 as i don't think very much has changed in the architecture from 6.1. the issue w/ epocrates is that it installs, but hangs during the initial autoupdate. the actual application is installed and can be opened briefly (i can see the the on top etc.), but the data itself is not there b/c it cannot be synced. when trying to install via the windows desktop installer, the autoupdate progress bar pops up and the download starts, but quits with an error about the autoupdater conduit.
if the conduit can be fixed/tweaked perhaps epocrates will work? has anyone tried moving files from a working 6.1 installation to an aborted install on wm6.5? i'd try to do it, but right now i don't have the time to rebuild my wm6.5 setup, which is also why i haven't flashed to one of the newer 6.5 builds.
for the time being i'm using Thomson Clinical Xpert, but its UI makes the application barely usable on my Fuze.
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what wm6.5 build is everyone using? i've so far only tried it on Da_G's 21198.
i'm really surprised that epocrates won't install on wm6.5 as i don't think very much has changed in the architecture from 6.1. the issue w/ epocrates is that it installs, but hangs during the initial autoupdate. the actual application is installed and can be opened briefly (i can see the the on top etc.), but the data itself is not there b/c it cannot be synced. when trying to install via the windows desktop installer, the autoupdate progress bar pops up and the download starts, but quits with an error about the autoupdater conduit.
That describes exactly my experience. I am using the FuFuROM based on 21202 on my HTC Diamond.
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Same here. no epocrates and UpToDate in WM6.5
wctom said:
Same here. I just spent an hour trying to load Epocrates until I found this thread. I like the WinMo 6.5 much better than 6.1, but unless someone can find a workaround I guess I will have to revert.
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It's same with me. I reverted to 6.1 bcos of epocrates and UpToDate. epocrates wont install as e'one here said. UpToDate installs and runs but cant display the final pages. It seems to use the IE and the pages are stored inside .jar files. somehow it cant go inside the .jar files to display the html files. It says the pages are not available.
I hope these issues will be solved soon.
BTW, I'm using TESS Premium 4.3 by Aman in my Elf.
Same
Wow same here, that's incredibly irritating
i finally had some free time to tinker this weekend and i've got epocrates running on wm 6.5!
following my previous hypothesis, i flashed to an old 6.1 rom and installed epocrates and performed an update. then i copied the "essentials" folder from "Program Files" to my sd card. i then flashed to wm 6.5 (da_g's 21501 beta 4 kitchen) and installed epocrates. as usual, it could not perform the initial autoupdate. instead, i closed the update application, deleted the existing Essentials folder, and copied the Essentials folder from my sd card that was from the intial 6.1 installation to Program Files. epocrates now works! i didn't bother with any of the add-on components/programs as i mainly need access to Rx, Sx, Dx, and labs tabs. of course, you likely will not be able to update epocrates from wm 6.5 as the crux of the problem is the autoupdater module.
Post perhaps?
Hey just wanted to add my 2 cents saying I'm having the same problem. I'm using HTC fuze with Mystic ROM by vRC1.0 based on Da_G's 21500. It's also a windows mobile 6.5 ROM.
Anyhow I was wondering if someone could post a zipped version of the essentials folder that works, so I don't have to reflash my ROM twice.
anyone has idea about UpToDate thing in WM6.5. Eventhough there is a workaround for Epocrates, I'm still stuck with 6.1 cos of UpToDate. Any input/suggestions wud be highly appreciated.
EDIT: I found about UpToDate in this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499741 but u hav to cook into ur own rom... too bad ..
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Hey just wanted to add my 2 cents saying I'm having the same problem. I'm using HTC fuze with Mystic ROM by vRC1.0 based on Da_G's 21500. It's also a windows mobile 6.5 ROM.
Anyhow I was wondering if someone could post a zipped version of the essentials folder that works, so I don't have to reflash my ROM twice.
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i have an archive of the folder and i'd upload it, but i think it contains personal information. just flash 6.1 the next time you get around to flashing an upgraded 6.5 rom.
KHTar said:
Hey just wanted to add my 2 cents saying I'm having the same problem. I'm using HTC fuze with Mystic ROM by vRC1.0 based on Da_G's 21500. It's also a windows mobile 6.5 ROM.
Anyhow I was wondering if someone could post a zipped version of the essentials folder that works, so I don't have to reflash my ROM twice.
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+1 for me too... I too would prefer not having to reflash again.
My Essentials folder won't be the same as yours. It will have my preferred insurance plans, for one thing.
Clearly, this hack allows ePocrates to run. However, it doesn't address the lack of updating, which is really one of the important features of ePocrates.
Since ePocrates is the primary reason I carry a smartphone device instead of a plain phone, I'll be sticking with a 6.1 ROM for now.
epocrates and active sync
I was wondering if anyone using the work around has been able to use active sync to sync with their computer. Does it break if epocrates tries to auto-update that way through the active sync? Is there a way to turn off the epocrates auto-updater so you can active sync?
I was able to use the work around without flashing my ROM. If you still have an old phone, you can have epocrates with Windows Mobile 6.1 on THAT phone, move the essentials to the storage card. Then install epocrates on your 6.5 device with the storage card in, and it works perfectly fine for me.
But now I'm afraid to sync my phone with my computer. I NEED epocrates to function at work. I want to be able to sync as that's one of the main benefits of a windows mobile phone, but keeping epocrates has to be priority one for me.
BTW, I checked with epocrates support, and they said they intend to support 6.5; they just don't know when.
Working now!
its now working officially with wm 6.5
greets,
A couple of days ago I installed the epocrates Rx on my brand new HTC HD2 (windows mobile 6.5) thru the standard installation procedure, and thought everything was running ok, until today that I just realized it doesn't support scrolling (I have to open the keyboard and use the arrow keys -extremely cumbersome!).
Then I searched on the Epocrates site for support and found this:
Question
Does Epocrates support Windows Mobile 6.5?
Answer
Epocrates does indeed support Windows Mobile 6.5.
While installation through a computer should be in essence the same as installing to a Windows Mobile 6.1 and older device, installing directly to a wireless Windows Mobile 6.5 device is a bit different.
Open Internet Explorer on your Windows Mobile 6.5 handheld and navigate to the following web address.
http://get.epocrates.com/?action=all
Please note that "www." is not part of the above web address.
Select the "Install Now" button for "Windows Mobile 5 and later."
Please take note of where Internet Explorer prompts use to save the Epocrates installer file (Main Memory or Expansion card). It is called:
OTAUpgraderSigned.exe
Open File Explorer on your handheld and navigate to My Device, My Documents. You should see the "OTAUpgraderSigned.exe" file there. Tap on it to begin the install process.
Should you encounter difficulties, please contact Epocrates support.
Don't know if anyone already tried the above, if so, please give some feedback. Does it work?
Anyway, I'll probably give it a try later in the day. Let's see what happens.
I have tried as Lovanova tells in his messagge but it still does not work scrolling in my HTC HD2.
Sorry to tell that this way described by epocrates support doesnt work in HD2.
hmm, you re right.
Scrolling does not work on HD2.
Damn!
They could at least update their product flag ship as so little that it doesnt look like MS-Dos-crap ... they ve got good looking apps on the iphone with nice fingerscrolling ...
its so ridicilous