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It has been quite interesting to watch all those threads for the above topic which of course lead to nowhere so far.
I would not exclude myself of the dispute, however we need to think of the issue in a practical methodology and thus conclude what the facts would lead to.
There has been many complaints and unhappy people about the battery life in Touch Pro and many other models. Just a simple question I ask; What would be an acceptable avarage battery life with one full charge? I am sure responses will vary coz there is no standard expectation nor a universal benchmark for this issue!
Whatever the vendor guarantees as an operating expectency measured in hours, is more or less what you gonna get although many wont accept it, but this is it, you gotta live with it!
There are 1000s of users with 10000s of applications and conditions that have high expectations, but they all get even results, so why complain?
What I am trying to highlight is if many have expressed their dissatisfaction of the battery life, I just say; who's right & who's not? Do we all expect to have the same results? My device may run for 3 days with one charge and couple of calls throughout, others may have tougher uses and expect a battery to last for 7 days in a row with just one single charge?
Just think about it and have a collective understanding.
Cyber-mate said:
It has been quite interesting to watch all those threads for the above topic which of course lead to nowhere so far.
I would not exclude myself of the dispute, however we need to think of the issue in a practical methodology and thus conclude what the facts would lead to.
There has been many complaints and unhappy people about the battery life in Touch Pro and many other models. Just a simple question I ask; What would be an acceptable avarage battery life with one full charge? I am sure responses will vary coz there is no standard expectation nor a universal benchmark for this issue!
Whatever the vendor guarantees as an operating expectency measured in hours, is more or less what you gonna get although many wont accept it, but this is it, you gotta live with it!
There are 1000s of users with 10000s of application and conditions that have high expectations, but they all get even results, so why complain?
What I am trying to highligh is if many have expressed their dissatisfaction of the battery life, I just say; who's right & who's not? Do we all expect to have the same results? My device may run for 3 days with one charge and couple of calls throughout, others may have tougher uses and expect a battery to last for 7 days in a row with just one single charge?
Just think about it and have a collective understanding.
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ya made a wise statement here.....couldn't agree more ...
yep, 2nd that
a wm device drains a lot more battery than other phones because it does sooo much more. and its not device specific either
maybe if someone creat app to change CPU to 200- 300 and so on if don`t used for heavy apps will incress battery life. In the PSP there is app like this ans when I used it only for play music set procesor to 100 Mhz
I have had the phone for a week now. I like it. I like how pretty much everything works. I don't see much of any problem but the battery life. Why didn't they put a larger battery in. My Mogul has a 1650 in it. Yesterday morning the phone had a complete charge. I went to worship and used it very little in the morning. By noon time where I showed the phone off to a friend who is thinking of getting one, the phone charge was down below 50%. It should have been 70 or 80% and no less, IMHO.
I've posted this link before on a different section.
http://www.hardwarezone.com.au/reviews/view.php?id=2726&cid=24&pg=6
I get nearly 4 hours as well if I use mine full on. Tried watching a full length movie and my battery meter shows ~50% afterwards.
I thought OP might be interested in seeing this review.
I don't think it's really an issue of someone being right or wrong. I think 24 hours is just a particular limit for cellphones, and once it dips below that we start to worry about the next time we'll be near a power plug. After all, these are devices that we use on a daily basis.
If the batteries lasted 2-3 days, then it wouldn't be a big deal if we forgot to charge once in a while (late night, canceled flight, forgot charger, etc). But as it is, people are having trouble pushing it past 24 hours even under modrate usage, which means if they miss even one charge cycle, they're dead in the water the next day.
Of course usage is a different issue; but if you start modifying your usage habits in an effort to prolong battery life, that's still the same problem. You could turn off 3G, stop mail checking, always close background apps, etc; but without any of those features you might as well use a regular dumbphone -- no point in getting a device like the Touch Pro in the first place.
Last week we went on a short holiday. Both my girlfriend and I have a TP running RomeOS v1.13. She has a GSM prepaid card and I have a GSM/3G/H card.
Her battery lasted 4 working days occasionally calling home to check on the kids and sending a few SMS messages.
I used my phone to check email and LIVE messenger. My battery lasted no more than 20 hours.
So if you by a full featured phone, just to use it as a basic phone you won't complain that much I think. If like me you want to use a full set of features pffffffff... And if you don't mind I would like to keep it at that
My first serious WM phone (I don't count the ridiculous HP 6315) was the Samsung i730. I am a very heavy user and I got used to charging it in he car & carrying a spare battery in my pocket. If it made it to 6PM without going dead I was happy.
The Touch Pro has the same screaming 528 mhz processor speed, plus a vga screen. If it makes it to the end of the day, then I'll be more than happy (haven't received mine yet, it's in the mail). There's always a trade off for speed and resolution. I'd rather carry an extra battery than have a frustratingly slow processor.
I've had my TP for a week now and with a pretty heavy usage, my messenger is almost always on, some internet browsing and a little bit of monkey island on scummvm, my battery lasts 2 days. I can live with that.
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I've had my TP for a week now and with a pretty heavy usage, my messenger is almost always on, some internet browsing and a little bit of monkey island on scummvm, my battery lasts 2 days. I can live with that.
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Which Messenger are you using? I'm trying to find a good Google Talk client that won't drain my battery.
The battery should be expected to last a day. Past that, would be nice, but I do not feel it is necessary...
If the phone won't even last me a day (and "a day" for me is 14-16 hours at school and work) then it really isn't going to work for me. I hate trying to search for 5-10 minutes to have the phone plugged in during the middle of the day to try to extend the battery to make it just past that 12 hour mark for me.
The CDMA Touch Pro doesn't seem to do too well. Sitting idle, it had about 40% battery after 14 hours, but then dropped extremely quickly after that... I must have sent 10-12 texts and was in a call for about 10 minutes the entire day, no programs running in the background, only the cell radio turned on.
Cyber-mate said:
It has been quite interesting to watch all those threads for the above topic which of course lead to nowhere so far.
I would not exclude myself of the dispute, however we need to think of the issue in a practical methodology and thus conclude what the facts would lead to.
There has been many complaints and unhappy people about the battery life in Touch Pro and many other models. Just a simple question I ask; What would be an acceptable avarage battery life with one full charge? I am sure responses will vary coz there is no standard expectation nor a universal benchmark for this issue!
Whatever the vendor guarantees as an operating expectency measured in hours, is more or less what you gonna get although many wont accept it, but this is it, you gotta live with it!
There are 1000s of users with 10000s of applications and conditions that have high expectations, but they all get even results, so why complain?
What I am trying to highlight is if many have expressed their dissatisfaction of the battery life, I just say; who's right & who's not? Do we all expect to have the same results? My device may run for 3 days with one charge and couple of calls throughout, others may have tougher uses and expect a battery to last for 7 days in a row with just one single charge?
Just think about it and have a collective understanding.
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I agree with you 100% - except here is the problem: the vendor guarantees (well, doesn't "guarantee", but no vendor really "guarantees") a battery life that is absolutely not right.
On the Touch Pro, Sprint says the phone has a standby of 406 hours - that's 16 days! Incredibly misleading, and in my estimation definitely not accurate. That's the biggest problem I have with the whole battery issue.
Also, in comparison, my Mogul was suppose to have 340 hours of standby and 30% less talk time - but my Mogul lasted a LOT longer than this phone. I could talk, surf, play games, and have it still last longer than this phone. That doesn't make any sense.
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I agree with you 100% - except here is the problem: the vendor guarantees (well, doesn't "guarantee", but no vendor really "guarantees") a battery life that is absolutely not right.
On the Touch Pro, Sprint says the phone has a standby of 406 hours - that's 16 days! Incredibly misleading, and in my estimation definitely not accurate. That's the biggest problem I have with the whole battery issue.
Also, in comparison, my Mogul was suppose to have 340 hours of standby and 30% less talk time - but my Mogul lasted a LOT longer than this phone. I could talk, surf, play games, and have it still last longer than this phone. That doesn't make any sense.
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Alright, alright, alright! Let's not mention the biggest and silliest gimmick PPC vendors made us believe in specially those of high-end CPU ones
I might have been worng in choosing "guarantee", but who says! When you read "Stand-by" I am sure that the vendor wouldn't in gods name mean "with any GSM/CDMA network"! I mean just think about't!! Why in heavens name would they shoot themselves in the foot by committing such a thing
I could defy anyone who would tell me that "Stand by" is a standard by itself! Haven't you read "The above are subject to network and phone usage" in phone specs?
In addition to the above, network signal strength matters and is very fundemental to extend/shorten battery life too!
Whether or not the battery was of 1300mAh or 1600mAh, it is all the CPU power management and I am pretty sure that Qualcomm is unlike the Intel XScale as the olden memories remind me of
Like most of you rightly said; change your habit and the battery life will change accordingly.
Just a last lil thought, why isn't there a quick options made available in the market for a higher amperage batteries? If one would care about the total gram units, then I recommend to live with the supplied battery.
Let's all cherish the memory of the HTC Universal, that baby was a hot long-lusty orgasmic son of gun device ever was.
I feel the term "standby time" has been used loosely, never in working with wireless phones have I found a machine that is capable of being on this long without being charged. Notice the "up to" that is always there on these kinds of stats too. What does up to mean? Probably something to do with turning off all the radios so the phone can't actually do anything, it might as well be off.
No matter what you do, computers require a lot of power to maintain themselves in any sort of "on" state. If there are any background processes happening (i.e. cellular radio sniffing for incoming calls and sms) you are really only burning power at a rate less than that of radios + screen.
Phones consume more power than phones did even a few years ago, hell they consume a lot more. Does anyone remember first-gen digital phones? 2 hours battery life, talk/standby, didn't make a difference. In fact the batteries used in mobile phones have changed (lion/nicad etc) probably a lot less than the manufacturers' ability to use less power to get the job done.
You can always strap on a bigger battery, but then you have a bigger phone, making it even HEAVIER!
Ultimately, as others have posted before me, that when you buy a touch pro, it is because you are looking for all the functionality that the machine entails. If you use all of the functions at the same time you are burning the candle at both ends. We buy a phone with a gps, bluetooth, wifi, 3g, vga screen qwerty, 3.2mp camera, etc because we need (or want) all of these features at the same time. When you are using the gps while having bluetooth on visible, screen full bright, wifi still on and music playing, don't be surprised your battery won't get you through the day.
I think that the general consensus here is that typically we should be able to get about 1 day out of the pro. Any more, we are lucky, any less, you either have a defective unit or you may have unrealistic expectations of the device.
That being said, after a few weeks go by and you find yourself actually being able to put the damn phone down for a while, battery life will seem longer too
My experience:
I've come from an XScale phone, which runs Linux and doesn't have 10% of what Pro does (like GPS, wifi, 3G, SDHC support, VGA screen, G sensor, light sensor, etc.) and even without all that it doesn't have a great battery life. I had to recharge it everyday sometimes, because I had pretty heavy use (especially A2DP audio).
With the Pro I can do that and much more and still get at least a full day of battery, which for me is good enough.
Tell me one device that has the same size does everything the Pro does with better battery life.
Unfortunately we are still to see better batteries, which I've read a lot about, especially that nanowire technology which supposedly makes them 10x better, but until then there isn't much we can do. So I don't think it's fair to blame a manufacturer, HTC or not, for poor battery life, because IMHO they did an impressive job on making such a small device with so much power, and still manage a full day of moderate use.
I find that TF3D is a real power hog too. Although I really like the interface, I am trying a run with SPB Mobile Shell instead
It is 3:30PM EST now, I unplugged the phone after a solid charge at 8PM, immediately changing to SPBMS.
It is now about 20 hours later and I have 63% remaining, that is a 37% discharge. I have been using the phone normally for the purpose of this experiment and normally the phone would be at about 30% remaining with tf3d.
There is a thread about this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441767
Hi All,
I'm wondering if besides the GPS, WiFi, 3G and Bluetooth.... the application processor, running at 528MHZ is not a cause for this poor battery life time?
Adrian
The reasons why we read many different opinions is that people use phones in very different ways. I can usually cope with the short battery life but sometimes it is really annoying. It just needs a few hours in a bad coverage area and the battery drains completely. Or an unexpected need for TomTom to make the battery go flat before I get back home in the evening. I used an HTC P3600 (which is a very similar phone from a featureset point of view) for two years and I never had to worry not to listen to music at the airport or on a plane because I wouldn't be able to use the phone after landing. Instead I have had this problem already twice with the Pro... this terrible battery life is really spoiling my user experience with this phone.
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Tell me one device that has the same size does everything the Pro does with better battery life.
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Well, as I said in my previous post, discounting the hardware keyboard and the fact that it wasn't a very attractive phone my old HTC P3600 used to do exactly the same things with a much longer battery life.
Hello all,
I was wondering if there are any other S710 users who have been experiencing battery issues with the HTC Vox.
For a while I was running Dr. Gonzo's Guava Rom and everything was great with it all except for the battery life. I didn't pay much attention to it, but it finally got on my nerves. It came to the point where I could only use the phone for around 14-16 hours under moderate use and wifi+bt OFF after a full charge.
Today, I flashed the VOX with fireburned CLEAN v1.2. and it seems to be the same. I don't recall having this issue with the Official ROM.
Battery issue? any ideas? I dont want to spend money on an extended battery if it is a software issue.
Much appreciated!
It seems same to me too. I flashed not less than 20 ROMs in my VOX's use of nine months and I found that my battery slowly got weakened and was going only for 14 15 hours without too much use. Practically I had to buy a fresh battery from www.megacapacity.com. It arrived yesterday and serving me about 1.5 days for normal use. It is 1100mah in place of 1050mah original but is of std size.
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Did not notice anything as such. My Vox is nearly 1 Year 4 months old. So I am not expecting much from it.
Because during my initial flashing, I never had any noticeable battery performance issues. I have flashed almost all ROMs of Dr. G's, a couple of fh's and 3 of fireburned's ROM, about to flash with the 4th
I've had my phone for approximately the same amount of time and I've only flashed it probably 4-5 times in total.
Perhaps I shall look into getting a new battery as well...I want to be able to use Wifi normally without losing the phone halfway through the day.
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I've had my phone for approximately the same amount of time and I've only flashed it probably 4-5 times in total.
Perhaps I shall look into getting a new battery as well...I want to be able to use Wifi normally without losing the phone halfway through the day.
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I think you may have a hardware issue (not sure though). When I am not travelling, my phones battery at the end of the day shows more or less 60% charge left. I use flexmail to check my mails every hour. If there is any mail worth reading, then I use i.e. to check mails. So I think you can consider it moderate GPRS usage, plus there are of course voice calls . Though I do not use wifi or BT.
If you plan to buy a new battery though, I think it will be better if you go for an extended battery.
I read in another topic that it's somehow related to the Radio version.
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It seems same to me too. I flashed not less than 20 ROMs in my VOX's use of nine months and I found that my battery slowly got weakened and was going only for 14 15 hours without too much use. Practically I had to buy a fresh battery from www.megacapacity.com. It arrived yesterday and serving me about 1.5 days for normal use. It is 1100mah in place of 1050mah original but is of std size.
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Parthabhatta, what were shipping charges to india? how much is the total cost? How much time does it take in delivery?
i am looking to buy a new one same 1100mAh.
Because im new with Vox in generally can someone tell me what should be aproximated battery life with vox? (NO wifi, NO bt, 1-2h/day using normal phone calling)
What could be normal battery life with TCPMP and movie divx 320x240 256kbit ?
Everyone seems to have great battery life, so I wouldn't be the person to tell you what the average battery life is.
I just tested out the battery life this morning. 100% charged and i turned on Wifi to use. 45 minutes later, my phone dies.
So I get less than an hour of power on Wifi. I don't think that seems like a battery problem. Using it normally, gives me at least 14-15 hours+ (no wifi/no bt).
Perhaps its a hardware bug? Software bug? Any input is appreciated.
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Everyone seems to have great battery life, so I wouldn't be the person to tell you what the average battery life is.
I just tested out the battery life this morning. 100% charged and i turned on Wifi to use. 45 minutes later, my phone dies.
So I get less than an hour of power on Wifi. I don't think that seems like a battery problem. Using it normally, gives me at least 14-15 hours+ (no wifi/no bt).
Perhaps its a hardware bug? Software bug? Any input is appreciated.
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Hi gwmnx!
The same problem i have to, my battery life is very poor , maxim 10- 12 hours(no wifi/no bt), without browsing internet or other else and battery dies.
I buy a new battery, and exact same problem with it, in maximum 14 hours is finished
I was in a service , and they verify my batterys, and they told me the batterys is very good both.
And probably the phone have a hardware issue , but they don't know to repare it because they don't have a electronic schematic of my phone
I tested 3 ROM's by now, but nothing is change, with every ROM, same problem.
I don't know what to do and what to say, i'm very disappointed
Excuse me for bad English , i don't speak very well!
Same issue i am facing here. My phone battery dies in 10-12 hours. Don't know if it happens due to lot of ROM upgrades everyday or using overclocking...
I am going to purchase a new battery soon. If that also works same, i will revert to original VOX 6.0 ROM. No overlcoking, no R&D, no research no development further because you need to compromise with hardware malfuntioning, damages etc against this kind of R&D.
Skchattha
I bought my battery for 15.5$. Shipping is free worldwide on all items. It reached me in 16 days. It is now giving me 1.5 to 2 days on fireburned 1.2 ROM.
For a change, you just change the homescreen from sliding to anything like windows default. And make normal usage. I'm dead sure you'll get better results even if you're in Rose ROM. I mean, you'll get better battery performance if you're not in sliding homescreen.
I'm using Fireburned's 1.2 version ROM.
Thanks
ragsAnurag said:
For a change, you just change the homescreen from sliding to anything like windows default. And make normal usage. I'm dead sure you'll get better results even if you're in Rose ROM. I mean, you'll get better battery performance if you're not in sliding homescreen.
I'm using Fireburned's 1.2 version ROM.
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How does the sliding panel attribute to 45 minutes of wifi usage. I'm not even on the homescreen, just using the web browser?
I mean, I think it might be a definite reason since I only started noticing poor battery life after 6.1. With the original Vox WM6.0, I definitely had better battery life.
there are some roms that kills the battery life to around half or more. like gonzo's latest rose rom.
parthabhatta said:
Skchattha
I bought my battery for 15.5$. Shipping is free worldwide on all items. It reached me in 16 days. It is now giving me 1.5 to 2 days on fireburned 1.2 ROM.
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Thanks Parthabhatta, its from megacapacity, right?
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Thanks Parthabhatta, its from megacapacity, right?
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Yeah from megacapacity. Extended batteries are also available for around 21$
Sorry skchattha! its for 18.5$and not 15.5$ (actually 15.5$ was for my nokia battery). I confused. Just go to the site and it will be clear. Actually I was charged Rs.948.00 in IndiaN Rupee.
parthabhatta said:
Yeah from megacapacity. Extended batteries are also available for around 21$
Sorry skchattha! its for 18.5$and not 15.5$ (actually 15.5$ was for my nokia battery). I confused. Just go to the site and it will be clear. Actually I was charged Rs.948.00 in IndiaN Rupee.
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Great man! Rs.948 is still cheaper, HTC service centre rates are Rs1390.
What do you mean by Extended battery? Any difference from normal battery?
And what about 2250mAh battery, does it fit fine or looks odd?
2250 mAh is the extended battery. I didnot buy although it was comparatively cheaper because to me it will not only look odd but make the phone bulky and heavier too. But now i feel that 2250 would have been a better choice as i am an avid gprs user. Now think and buy- difference of only 2.5/3 USD.
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How does the sliding panel attribute to 45 minutes of wifi usage. I'm not even on the homescreen, just using the web browser?
I mean, I think it might be a definite reason since I only started noticing poor battery life after 6.1. With the original Vox WM6.0, I definitely had better battery life.
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Well, being in browser doesn't mean your homescreen is off. Sliding panel itself consumes lots of battery. Just change your homescreen from settings to something else not related to sliding panel or Rose Homescreen. For a change just change it back to windows default. let it be changed for a day (You won't loose anything). I strongly believe there would be some difference in battery consumption and consumption will be lesser.
Thanks
Extended Battery really looks too odd. it looks like you've added another battery
Just wondering how is the battery life on this phone, had the chance to play with it @ a tmo store for a good 1 hour and its an awesome device ran benchmark on it and it scored really good, I was suprise it beat the G2 even when I overclock it to 1.42 ghz lol. I really want to know about the Battery life in these dual core smartphones, as I'm tempted to get me a G2x.
T-Mobile G2 1.42 GHZ
Its great.
inb4 use the search button
It really depends who you ask about it. There are a ton of battery complaints whereas I and many others find the battery life to be exceptional.
I think most of the people complaining about battery life either
A) Haven't performed a factory reset which fixes the phones constant power usage even when idle. OR went into the hidden menu and changed the radio to GSM and WCDMA Auto.
B) Have a defective battery (ie those who say their battery drains even when the phone is powered down)
C) Have unrealistic expectations for battery life all together.
Well on point C, I can say with absolute confidence that this battery is the best I've ever had out of all my smartphones (PPC-6700, Mogul, Touch, Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2, Curve 8330, Bold 9700, Palm Pre CDMA, HTC Hero, Evo, Inspire, and the Samsung Captivate) with me being able to talk for four hours and still have 30% of the battery left and then I can game for another 2 or 3 hours. Most of those phones would have been dead after the phone calls (the Captivate would be close to death, the Curve would be about an hour behind it) let alone having to power such a nice display and high-powered graphics chip.
I tend to think the actual answer is (d) the battery driver is so vastly broken that any reading it gives is essentially fictional. In this case, some people will be happy with their battery life (because their readings are fictionally high) and others will be freaked out (because theirs are fictionally low) but the actual answer is "nobody knows".
This battery outlasting my Vibrant by hours with the same usage pattern isn't at all fictional. Not saying the drivers arent messed up.. But if battery life is as good as it has been for many users already it can only get better. Either way in its existing state its still better than many android phones.
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I tend to think the actual answer is (d) the battery driver is so vastly broken that any reading it gives is essentially fictional. In this case, some people will be happy with their battery life (because their readings are fictionally high) and others will be freaked out (because theirs are fictionally low) but the actual answer is "nobody knows".
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This is not the case if you are running Faux123's .8 kernel.
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This is not the case if you are running Faux123's .8 kernel.
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Am doing so.
Not at all convinced that it's accurate - still saw something like a 60% drop in a few minutes, on a brand new battery.
It does seem to help the "stall" problem.
DebauchedSloth said:
I tend to think the actual answer is (d) the battery driver is so vastly broken that any reading it gives is essentially fictional. In this case, some people will be happy with their battery life (because their readings are fictionally high) and others will be freaked out (because theirs are fictionally low) but the actual answer is "nobody knows".
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Exactly. If the battery driver reads "0" then it will shut off. That doesn't mean the battery is depleted. This explains why you'll get awesome battery if you clear battery stats on a full charge initially. It aligns the counter with the actual battery.
Mine runs from 8-midnight with some to spare with heavier then normal (thanks xda!) usage.
LG G2x - CM7 2.3.4
The G2X has with out a doubt the best battery I have ever had on a smart phone and has been since day one. I never had any battery problems but that might be because since day one I have used SetCPU, rooted my device and froze all of the bloatware including WiFi calling. I constantly get about 15 hours with moderate use and 8 hours with heavy use which includes 1 hour worth of playing games, 1 hour browsing the internet, 1 hour reading all of my RSS, 30 minutes reading Fox news and CNN, 50 text messages, 1 hour of phone calls, 2 hours streaming music or playing my MP3's and about 30 minutes browsing facebook and twitter.
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Am doing so.
Not at all convinced that it's accurate - still saw something like a 60% drop in a few minutes, on a brand new battery.
It does seem to help the "stall" problem.
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Yu sure was 60% in a few minutes?
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The G2X has with out a doubt the best battery I have ever had on a smart phone and has been since day one. I never had any battery problems but that might be because since day one I have used SetCPU, rooted my device and froze all of the bloatware including WiFi calling. I constantly get about 15 hours with moderate use and 8 hours with heavy use which includes 1 hour worth of playing games, 1 hour browsing the internet, 1 hour reading all of my RSS, 30 minutes reading Fox news and CNN, 50 text messages, 1 hour of phone calls, 2 hours streaming music or playing my MP3's and about 30 minutes browsing facebook and twitter.
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Well I just asked because of the bad review on battery life on tmobile website but I will probably get the phone in august, by than it'll probably have gingerbread. Only thing I don't like about the phone is the lack of hardware keyboard especially because tmo considers it part of the G series which it doesn't fit in, and only god knows I what I would do if this phone had a keyboard to get it LOL I would rob a bank.
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androidfeen809 said:
Yu sure was 60% in a few minutes?
T-Mobile G2 1.42 GHZ
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that kind of stuff happens when the battery isn't calibrated.
regP said:
that kind of stuff happens when the battery isn't calibrated.
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How do yu calibrate a battery?
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player911 said:
Exactly. If the battery driver reads "0" then it will shut off. That doesn't mean the battery is depleted. This explains why you'll get awesome battery if you clear battery stats on a full charge initially. It aligns the counter with the actual battery.
Mine runs from 8-midnight with some to spare with heavier then normal (thanks xda!) usage.
LG G2x - CM7 2.3.4
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Could you please explain what you mean by "Clearing your battery stats" for us newbies out here. And thanks to you all because we are learning a lot just by lurking and reading.
Dennis/Idaho
G1, G2x
DLeeHarley said:
Could you please explain what you mean by "Clearing your battery stats" for us newbies out here. And thanks to you all because we are learning a lot just by lurking and reading.
Dennis/Idaho
G1, G2x
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Charge to 100%, reboot into recovery, go to advanced->clear battery.
or
Download this app and follow similar directions in-app.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&feature=search_result
I picked up my g2x yesterday.afternoon. Charged it to full at about 7pm, played a little dungeon defenders, web browsing, and I've been on xda for half an hour. 12 hours after unplugged and I'm at 72%. Not too bad, but 6 of those were idle. We'll see how well it does today.
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Good on wifi, horrible on 4g.
allthrottle said:
I picked up my g2x yesterday.afternoon. Charged it to full at about 7pm, played a little dungeon defenders, web browsing, and I've been on xda for half an hour. 12 hours after unplugged and I'm at 72%. Not too bad, but 6 of those were idle. We'll see how well it does today.
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Unless suffering from some issue idle drain is awesome. Afraid not much can be done about the drain during use though besides turning screen brightness down and using wifi instead of 4g.
I pretty much never use wifi anymore because its so damn slow.. but hopefully that will get fixed because with wifi on battery life is just unreal even when in use.
Hi
Have had this phone for just a day.
Been struggling to make up my mind whether I want to get it because of the limited memory.
But finally decided to go ahead because it has good reviews on its performance and battery life.
No complain about the performance, but the battery life?....
Played Tripple Town for just about one hour and 30 mins and the battery goes down from 66% to 35%, the majority of which is comsumed by the screen.
So here is where I am. 5 h 47 m on batter, 32% left, 69% of the power drain is because of the god damned screen.
Seriously HTC, how can you manage to get so screwed up with such a decent processor.
you get rid of the removable battery, ok, nowadays the battery lasts reasonably long.
you get rid of the Micro SD card and force us to use the rubbish dropbox. 50GB 1 Yr cost $99. Why don't spend that money to get us a decent bigger memory? But ok I want the performance, I am willing to give up a bit of space for that.
But Finally SUPER AMOLED. Seriously, what kind of dump decision is this to fit a more-than-a-year old technology to such a decent new processor?? when we know all the bad thing about this screen.
It alone kills all the power efficiency the 28nm processor can offer us.
So now this phone's battery cannot out perform (when you are actually using it) neither of my previous phones: Dell Streak and Atrix. Don't tell me I have to compare the battery life by switching off the screen and just let them sit there.
I am very disappointed. very disappointed.
This will be the last phone I buy from HTC.
It sounds like you don't know about how to manage phones.
You prob was running lots of applications at once and brightness all the way up it still won't go from 66% to 35% sounds like a bad unit you have.
no... the brightness is at it's lowest level.
I use anrdoid assistant to kill process once an hour.
There is very unlikely this is a bad unit. Nowadays these manufacturers control the production quality very good that the chance I get a bad unit is probably as low as winning some lotto.
For starters, your device is BRAND NEW so battery will take about a week or so to break it in, just be patient. Also, killing tasks will only end up using more resources since Android will most likely just start them back up once it gets the chance. Run your battery down the first couple of days and charge it overnight and you will start to notice it getting much better.
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For starters, your device is BRAND NEW so battery will take about a week or so to break it in, just be patient. Also, killing tasks will only end up using more resources since Android will most likely just start them back up once it gets the chance. Run your battery down the first couple of days and charge it overnight and you will start to notice it getting much better.
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Kill Process runs only once an hour. So during the time I was playing, it probably just ran once. I doubt it will cost much power at all.
I understand it needs time for the battery to warm up. But even with that taken into account. it is not looking good. It reminds me the suffer that Desire caused my friend.
Hopefully this doesn't turn into a bigger issue; keep us posted!
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Hi
Have had this phone for just a day.
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I am very disappointed. very disappointed.
This will be the last phone I buy from HTC.
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sorry mate but this is just stupid. first of all the battery meter is not calibrated in a new phone meaning the reported battery state is not accurate. you have at least to charge the phone once to 100% and discharge it fully to calibrate the 2 extrem states. before that everything displayed is just a rough approximation. at the first discharge i had ~20% left and the phone was down to 0 in just some minutes of heavy use. after 2 cycles i get ~-10% for an hour of heavy use. so stop crying and give the phone some day's to adjust
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no... the brightness is at it's lowest level.
I use anrdoid assistant to kill process once an hour.
There is very unlikely this is a bad unit. Nowadays these manufacturers control the production quality very good that the chance I get a bad unit is probably as low as winning some lotto.
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I think you have a bad unit.
Android Assistance/Android Task Killers only mess up your battery more.
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sorry mate but this is just stupid. first of all the battery meter is not calibrated in a new phone meaning the reported battery state is not accurate. you have at least to charge the phone once to 100% and discharge it fully to calibrate the 2 extrem states. before that everything displayed is just a rough approximation. at the first discharge i had ~20% left and the phone was down to 0 in just some minutes of heavy use. after 2 cycles i get ~-10% for an hour of heavy use. so stop crying and give the phone some day's to adjust
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Well I sincerely hope you are right. Because I will be much happier. Let's see in a week time.
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I think you have a bad unit.
Android Assistance/Android Task Killers only mess up your battery more.
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Well I hope jodue is right: the battery needs time to fix itself.
I will give it a week to see whether things will improve. If not I will go to store to get a new one.
I have been using Android Assistant for my Streak and Atrix. It turned out to be just alright.
Anyway I will remove it and see how it goes.
Ppl have wrong idea that AMOLED is more power efficient. I remember reading a review some time ago on battery life of smart phones. It tested a number of phones and the outcome is that actually on average the AMOLED (at that time there wasn't SUPER AMOLED yet) devices last less than others.
But anyway...
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This is the most stupid thing one can do. The processes will likely be restarted by the OS and you consume more power than you would have consumed by letting android do his things as designed.
Google itself suggests not to do it. Even the most honest task manager apps suggest not to do it. (e.g., http://android.nextapp.com/site/systempanel/doc/autokill ).
Anyway, before judging battery life wait few days. I own a One X, and battery life improved suddenly after few recharging cycles. ;-)
About the display. I readed somewhere in this or X forum, that:
1. LCD does consume less power, but for X version, since its bigger screen, it takes more
2. AMOLED screen power consume depends on what it have to display (colors). Black/dark colors need less power to be shown while white takes the most power...
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2. AMOLED screen power consume depends on what it have to display (colors). Black/dark colors need less power to be shown while white takes the most power...
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This. Many people don't know/forget about this. Using a dark theme on apps you use most on an AMOLED phone can save a lot of juice, much more than all those stupid Juice Defender/task killer/manager apps can ever hope to.
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This. Many people don't know/forget about this. Using a dark theme on apps you use most on an AMOLED phone can save a lot of juice, much more than all those stupid Juice Defender/task killer/manager apps can ever hope to.
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You cannot ask all the website to go dark background can you?
Ppl use the phone to do different things. Games, Browing internet... thats the whole point, the phone should perform consistantly for all tasks, not just looking at dark home screen. HTC hasn't even figure this out yet??
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You cannot ask all the website to go dark background can you?
Ppl use the phone to do different things. Games, Browing internet... thats the whole point, the phone should perform consistantly for all tasks, not just looking at dark home screen. HTC hasn't even figure this out yet??
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in browser-setting you can invert white background/black background
no battery issues here
No battery issues, with slightly higher than average use (downloading loads of apps, playing some games, using google maps and a half hour driving nav and some music lsitening) over the first few days I've averaged 24-36 hours which I'm pretty happy with.
There are a few software things I don't like though
First, I miss having settings in the notification tray, it's one less tap of the screen. Also, the tweaked recent apps list seems pointless, you have to flick from one to another... the Stock android 4 recent apps scroll is much better, it let's you see/do more with less interaction. I also noticed a bug where the wireless signal will appear as null in the notification bar but if you view the the details in settings it says that the wireless signal strength is excellent!
Don't let any of this put you off though it really is a great phone and feels great in the hand... CM9 may rescue all!
Have the One S now, arrived a short while ago. The most annoying thing is that a stock device only has 9GB of that 16GB free when you get it.
This is nuts, I will not be using dropbox, there are many nefarious reasons why HTC want people to use dropbox or any cloud storage, this does not work well while I am roaming folks. This is not good for a business phone, I maybe sticking with my DesireHD.
Its sad, that many ppl who consider themselves technophiles do not even understand the battery of their devices.
ANY device with a modern battery should be initially charged overnight or 7-8hrs at least even of the little green light tells you it is all OK after 4 hrs. Do that, and give it a week to break in and I assume there won't be anything to complain about anymore.
Somy link to a decent site discussing these battery care tips and characteristics should be auto-pinned to each new device subforum cause the first complaints are ALWAYS about the battery life it seems...
Hi,
I'm going to buy this phone, but i heard that battery life isnt good. Can someone tell me sth about it? Is there possibility to use this phone for whole day (6am - 10pm at least) with average usage?
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Yes, you can easily make it that long as long as you're not running it extremely hard. I'd say I use mine average, some may consider it light though. Mine has been unplugged for 17 hours and still has 35% battery left. I have 2 emails syncing (push, not interval), an average of 100 texts a day, light web usage (15-30 minutes), and the occasional game. I also am connected to WiFi most of the time, have GPS always on, and have my screen brightness set to low, but it's still plenty bright in most situations. I play the occasional game but it isn't as often, plus I have background apps such as weather syncing with a live tile. This is also on a phone that hasn't been broken in as well. It's only 2 days old, so it'll get even better over the next two days.
Hm so it seems that battery life is normal, i mean like in other smartphones But i will wait for other opinions before i decided to buy it
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zax880 said:
Hm so it seems that battery life is normal, i mean like in other smartphones But i will wait for other opinions before i decided to buy it
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Yeah, it's pretty normal for a smartphone. You can easily get through a day with moderate use, but never expect to get through 2 days. I chose the 820 cause the HTC 8x has the same size screen but is almost as large as the HTC One X and it doesn't have a removable battery or an SD card slot; and the 920 is just to big for me. I have a One X and its a great phone but it's bigger than I care for, and Windows Phone just works.
After a weeks use and several discharges my battery is starting to improve, I can now get through an entire day 6:30am-11:00pm with average use but no more as it really does need to go on charge before it shuts down, I find this adequate enough but still hope an update can improve things slightly in the future.
When I say average use I mean a few txts & short phone calls and a bit of browsing, 2x email accounts sincing every hour, weather app & wpcentral running in background plus manually checking feeds on people hub for twitter & facebook etc on a regular basis ,Location and 3G on constantly(Good signal), Tap&send off & Dark Theme as uses less power.
Hopefully what happened to me yesterday won't happen again. I had decent battery like throughout the morning with 9 hours since last charged at 54%, that's 18 hours total and I'm fine with that. I only sent a few texts over the next 2 hours with nothing running in the background except for a weather live tile that has been there since day one and when I looked at my phone the battery saver had kicked in at 20% after only 11 hours since last charge. Luckily I was around a charger, but this should not have happened.
Sent from my HTC One X because the XDA app is better than on my WP8 Nokia Lumia 820
I read http://www.wpcentral.com/skype-and-constant-syncing-problem-windows-phone-8 and since uninstalling Skype have noticed a slight improvement, Whether this is just coincidence I do not know, The Battery still sucks though
AndyFZ1S said:
I read http://www.wpcentral.com/skype-and-constant-syncing-problem-windows-phone-8 and since uninstalling Skype have noticed a slight improvement, Whether this is just coincidence I do not know, The Battery still sucks though
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I wonder if that can happen even when I haven't signed into Skype? Because I haven't but that sounds like my exact issue. And it hasn't happened since either, just like they had said they haven't had issues.
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Personally, I'm getting spectacular battery life with this phone. After about 2 weeks' ownership, I have not had less than 2 full days of use, and right now, incredibly I must add, it has been off the charger 2 days 3 hours and is still at 66% according to the battery control panel.
I have done little more than disable a couple of background tasks, and run the phone from 100% to zero a single time. I haven't installed much (not Skype), and while I'm not a heavy user, I'm not always moderate either.
I'm on AT&T and typically in LTE zones, with wifi for work and home locations. It has an EAS account with "as items arrive", and an IMAP account which checks hourly. Bluetooth, NFC, location services all enabled as usual.
Had the Lumia900 before this, and received a similar 2-day runtime, but not like this. Chalk me up to "pleasantly surprised" verging on "far exceeds expectations".
Use black background can save lot of power.
Battery life good
I have this phone and I can get 2 full days of charge with: wifi on,location services on,push email x2,some browsing and apps,moderate calling and texting.
Have to admit I get about one and a half days out of mine, two at a push with WiFi,data on 2 emails syncing and me on it constantly, yep the battery life is pretty good ?
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I'm thinking about getting this as my first Windows phone and my two main concerns are battery life and form factor (thickness + weight).
I can get 2 days of light to medium usage out of a charge. It's not quite as good as my iphone 4s but it's within about 10% of it and it's better than my atrix 2.
I had one day where my battery dropped like a rock... in hindsight I think it was because I had signed up for some podcasts so the phone was downloading 4 huge podcasts in the background one after the other. So don't be surprised if you run into a similar situation during the first weeks usage of the phone where it's downloading content in the background (maps, podcasts, music, etc.).
As for form factor... I went into the store to check out the 920 and 8X... I didn't even have the 820 on my radar. After checking out the 8X and 920 I picked up the 820 and it felt like the best form factor to me... immediately. Keep in mind that I prefer the wider 16:10 aspect ratio screen on the 820 vs. the 8X (I also prefer the power button on the side) and I found the 820 more comfortable to hold than the 920. I'm also a sucker for the inky blacks of AMOLED. I'd highly recommend going to a store and checking them out to which one is the best fit.
It's definitely a better size (smaller, rounded) and weight (lighter) for me. Also it's not slippery like the 920 color models can be. It's quite plain, by comparison. Screen is great, more readable than my 900 was.
It's solidly a 2-day phone in my usage. Frankly, the wireless charging back seems unnecessary, now that I see how rarely I'd need it.
Great to hear so many of you are getting good battery life, This is my second handset as the first developed a fault and was sent back, Battery was bad enough on that one, Maybe the rubbish battery life I am experiencing has something to do with the stock O2 ROM&Radio ? And possibly the poor reception in my area, Am hoping an update will fix this
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Great to hear so many of you are getting good battery life, This is my second handset as the first developed a fault and was sent back, Battery was bad enough on that one, Maybe the rubbish battery life I am experiencing has something to do with the stock O2 ROM&Radio ? And possibly the poor reception in my area, Am hoping an update will fix this
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My wife's 820 was getting good battery life for the first 3 weeks, but in the last week or so the life started falling off a cliff. Its now only lasting about 1/2 day before kicking into battery saver mode with typical use.
Settings:
-Wifi is off
-NFC/tap&send is off
-High-sensitiviety touch option is off
-BT is on and only used occaisonally.
-email was set to check "as items arrive" but we changed that to 15 minutes to see if it woudl help (it didn't)
-no trouble getting 3 or 4 bars in LTE mode
-double-checked that apps that have background tasks that can be disabled are disabled incuding Nokia drive (made no difference)
Gonna try messing around with it for another day or so and then I guess we'll do a warranty claim for a faulty battery through AT&T.
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My wife's 820 was getting good battery life for the first 3 weeks, but in the last week or so the life started falling off a cliff. Its now only lasting about 1/2 day before kicking into battery saver mode with typical use.
Settings:
-Wifi is off
-NFC/tap&send is off
-High-sensitiviety touch option is off
-BT is on and only used occaisonally.
-email was set to check "as items arrive" but we changed that to 15 minutes to see if it woudl help (it didn't)
-no trouble getting 3 or 4 bars in LTE mode
-double-checked that apps that have background tasks that can be disabled are disabled incuding Nokia drive (made no difference)
Gonna try messing around with it for another day or so and then I guess we'll do a warranty claim for a faulty battery through AT&T.
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Same exact thing has been happening to me. I just removed a lot of apps to see of any of their background tasks was causing it, they weren't. The battery lasts a real long time when I'm not using it for the first part of the day, but then it just dives. I checked it after 9 hours and still had 84% left (only sent a few texts for the morning); checked it 3 hours later after only sending a couple emails and it was down to 60%. It seems like it lasts a long time while not doing anything at all, bit the moment you touch it, it just stays awake and burns it down. Very very frustrating and is about to run me back to my One X.
Sent from my HTC One X because the XDA app is better than on my WP8 Nokia Lumia 820
Just called AT&T USA and they do not have Nokia 820 batteries in stock at the warehouse for warranty replacement. They said I need to buy a battery at the retail store and they will reimburse my account for the full amount. Full phones and phones without battery&back cover are the only items in stock for warranty replacement at the warehouse.
If I am unable to find a new battery at local stores, they said to call back and they would just send an entire new phone+battery.
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Just called AT&T USA and they do not have Nokia 820 batteries in stock at the warehouse for warranty replacement. They said I need to buy a battery at the retail store and they will reimburse my account for the full amount. Full phones and phones without battery&back cover are the only items in stock for warranty replacement at the warehouse.
If I am unable to find a new battery at local stores, they said to call back and they would just send an entire new phone+battery.
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Setting up a whole new phone is a PITA when you're just talking about a new battery. As loosely as the battery fits, I'm hoping a company makes a larger one that fits but doesn't need a larger back. Seidio does this a lot.
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