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What is the RADIO in HTC 710

Hi Friends,
Today I have updated my ROM to 6.1. But still the radio version remains same (i.e: 4.1.13.41_02.88.90) and RIL is same as OLD: 2.002.
What is this RADIO is all about? AND what that that RIL too?
-- Prabhat
http://prabhatnath.blogspot.com

Dr Gonzo's New 6.1 Rom has only the OS and no radio and ril updates.
Radio is the layer that actually makes ur phone a phone
it is responsible with making and receiving calls and such stuff.
RIL is the Radio interface Layer.
Radio->RIL->OS
Radio and RIL updates were in the HTC 1.34 ROM.
I saw in the Windows Mobile 6.1 thread that you updated directly from your stock ROM to Gonzo's 6.1 ROM.
You should have flashed HTC 1.34 ROM first and then the 6.1 ROM.
or if you can find just the Radio and RIL in the forum, flash that on top of Gonzo's ROM and you'll be good to go.

Hi Thanks for your reply and explanation. Now I understood the concept: Radio | RIL | OS.
So I should have done the RIL & Radio update before 6.1 Bad luck. I was not aware of that. I think now Dr Gonzo will update the NEW build/package for the WM 6.1 soon with all fix/updates. So Can I now update my Radio and RIL before the new Update?
Also Can you advice from where I will get the Updates (i.e HTC 1.34 ROM) for update?
Thanks,
Prabhat
http://prabhatnath.blogspot.com

Please just search for it. On HTC's support page you can find the 1.34 rom.
The easyest way is if you flash that one first, and then the 6.1 rom again.

sblop said:
Please just search for it. On HTC's support page you can find the 1.34 rom.
The easyest way is if you flash that one first, and then the 6.1 rom again.
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But I have already update my ROM to 6.1 yesterday night. Can I still flash 1.34?
-- Prabhat
http://prabhatnath.blogspot.com

prabhatnath said:
But I have already update my ROM to 6.1 yesterday night. Can I still flash 1.34?
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Yes.
Just try it. Cant hurt.
We woudn't have sudgested it, if it could make your phone a brick.

sblop said:
Yes.
Just try it. Cant hurt.
We woudn't have sudgested it, if it could make your phone a brick.
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OK Now I will search the ROM in HTC site and try tonight Thanks for your advice.
-- Prabhat
http://prabhatnath.blogspot.com

prabhatnath said:
OK Now I will search the ROM in HTC site and try tonight Thanks for your advice.
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No problem.
Sorry if I sounded angry before.
Just had a bad day. Sorry.
Good luck with your htc.

sblop said:
No problem.
Sorry if I sounded angry before.
Just had a bad day. Sorry.
Good luck with your htc.
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Hey friend not at all. You encouraged me
If u know the URL (from HTC support) just give me. Also I got one link in this fouroum in Wiki Page too.
Have a Good Day....
-- Prabhat
http://prabhatnath.blogspot.com

prabhat you will have to USPL the phone again to flash the HTC ROM.
so remember that.

You can update RADIO without flashing a new ROM. You don't even need to flash USPL. Just run the FLASH/RUU with the RADIO NBH in the same directory and it will update. I have found 4.1.13.47_02.98.90 to be the best.

h4waii said:
You can update RADIO without flashing a new ROM. You don't even need to flash USPL. Just run the FLASH/RUU with the RADIO NBH in the same directory and it will update. I have found 4.1.13.47_02.98.90 to be the best.
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Where did you find this Radio version and is the RIL updated with this Radio?
Roland

It was on the FTP. I can attach it if you would like. It should update RIL as it was included in a fully packaged ROM and 4.1.13.54_03.10.90 is a stand alone flash so it might not.

h4waii said:
It was on the FTP. I can attach it if you would like. It should update RIL as it was included in a fully packaged ROM and 4.1.13.54_03.10.90 is a stand alone flash so it might not.
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That would be great. Is it a later Radio than the one in the HTC 1.34 WM6 ROM?
Roland

h4waii said:
I have found 4.1.13.47_02.98.90 to be the best.
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Why do you think it is the best version?
Do you think it is better than the latest one that comes with latest official htc rom 4.1.13.54_03.10.90?

That would be great. Is it a later Radio than the one in the HTC 1.34 WM6 ROM?
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I think it might actually be the same one.
Why do you think it is the best version?
Do you think it is better than the latest one that comes with latest official htc rom 4.1.13.54_03.10.90?
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Using my "seat of the pants" tests, I've noticed I can hold a better signal in a low signal area with the previous radio. I don't have any real proof, just what I notice and what suits me best.

Hey "h4waii", thanks for all advice, I think the FTP is down, So can you please upload the Radio that will FLASH the Radio & RIL so that I can do that in my week end today
Note: I have updated my ROM to Dr's 6.1 yesterday. So planing to update RADIO & RIL from your files (Original that U have from HTC) before I update to 6.1a later today
Edit: Just downloaded the Radio 4.1.13.54_03.10.90.zip file that is updated by "h4waii".
Thanks,
Prabhat
(http://prabhatnath.blogspot.com)

Just to make note, you probably will need to flash USPL before you are able to flash a new radio.

h4waii said:
Just to make note, you probably will need to flash USPL before you are able to flash a new radio.
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All ready flashed the USPL as I use Dr. Martin Gonzo's WM6.1. Will you post Radio version 4.1.13.47_02.98.90 please, as I want to see if it is better than Radio version 4.1.13.54_03.10.90
Roland

Rolandh said:
All ready flashed the USPL as I use Dr. Martin Gonzo's WM6.1. Will you post Radio version 4.1.13.47_02.98.90 please, as I want to see if it is better than Radio version 4.1.13.54_03.10.90
Roland
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Can any one here let me knwo whchi Radio is good for HTC 710?
4.1.13.47_02.98.90 vs 4.1.13.54_03.10.90

radio does not change

hello, i was having some problems with radio version 1.65.x
and i tried to flash the newer dutty 6.1 rom with 1.64.x radio.
although it was flashed successfully on boot time it shows that i still have the 1.65.x radio
and i keep on facing the same problems
basically it seems that i cannot overwrite the radio rom!
can you please help me? any ideas?

if you have a radio version 1.65.17.10, you will not be able to change your radio

MegaHz said:
hello, i was having some problems with radio version 1.65.x
and i tried to flash the newer dutty 6.1 rom with 1.64.x radio.
although it was flashed successfully on boot time it shows that i still have the 1.65.x radio
and i keep on facing the same problems
basically it seems that i cannot overwrite the radio rom!
can you please help me? any ideas?
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What ROM did you flash?

at first i flashed the latest dutty 6.1 with 1.65.x
and then because i was facing many problems i flashed dutty 6.1 with 1.64.x
but the radio rom did not change.

MegaHz said:
at first i flashed the latest dutty 6.1 with 1.65.x
and then because i was facing many problems i flashed dutty 6.1 with 1.64.x
but the radio rom did not change.
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maybe replacing the "x" with some actual numbers would help... If you are talking about 1.64.17.10 then welcome to the sucks to be us club! enjoy your stay.

ericmcintire said:
maybe replacing the "x" with some actual numbers would help... If you are talking about 1.64.17.10 then welcome to the sucks to be us club! enjoy your stay.
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He means 1.65.17.10. Not 1.64.17.10. That radio is unchangeable my friend. The last four numbers in the radio are very important. If that is the radio you flashed or have on your phone then you can begin reading this thread. They are working on it and I'm sure they will get it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395

thanks a lot.

how i fixed radio issue
i was stuck with the same problem and it was really pissing me off, was ready to do what ALLTHEWAY did and send my phone back for warranty so i flashed the rom on the htc website the latest update for the tilt and BAM!!! that fixed the problem now iv been able 2 flash different radios with no prob at all.

res036 said:
i was stuck with the same problem and it was really pissing me off, was ready to do what ALLTHEWAY did and send my phone back for warranty so i flashed the rom on the htc website the latest update for the tilt and BAM!!! that fixed the problem now iv been able 2 flash different radios with no prob at all.
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What ROM exactly and have you posted this in the radio thread???? This would be nice to know in the other thread.

Radio Update - need help pls

Hi all,
just bought my kaiser, i was previously using blueangel so i have some idea about how to upgrade.
since i'm new to this section and been trying to access wiki but i can't, just need someone to point me to the latest or "best radio rom" so far, a link would be much appreciated.
here's my ROM info.
ROM: 1.81.415.4 WWE (original shipped ROM)
ROM date: 10/29/07
Radio Version: 1.27.15.32
Protocol Version 22.51.88.13H
thanks guys

All depends on the ROM you decide to download too...
if your going with the newest 209 or 213 rom you need a 1.65 radio but not the 1.65.17 RADIO
Matter of opinion. I am using 1.65.14.06 and love it

ryncppr said:
All depends on the ROM you decide to download too...
if your going with the newest 209 or 213 rom you need a 1.65 radio but not the 1.65.17 RADIO
Matter of opinion. I am using 1.65.14.06 and love it
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what if i decide to stick to my official ROM and only upgrade radio
is that possible? as i hate to loose the apps installed on it.
P.S. thx fr ur quick reply

ahassouna said:
what if i decide to stick to my official ROM and only upgrade radio
is that possible? as i hate to loose the apps installed on it.
P.S. thx fr ur quick reply
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There are a couple of stock radios to be found on the forum. mostly 1.27.x.x
be sure to read about HardSPL.

the thing to keep in mind about radios is that wm6 radios work w/ wm6 only and wm6.1 radios work w/wm6.1 only. if u want to keep ur stock rom (wm6) than any wm6 radio will be fine. like abov poster said make sure u get hardspl first be4 u do any flashing also be careful as there are some radios that lock u meaning once u flash it u can't change it ...
unless u r security unlocked.
being new to kaiser i would highly recommend a complete read of kaiser wiki.
peace,
sire

Any body help me！！Howto downgrade radio-firmware 1.54.30.10 ??

ANY body help me!!!!!!!!

There are plenty of posts here at XDA that would have told you that as of now, this radio version can not be downgraded.
The search function is a beautiful thing ....

re
I have same problem, and have found WM6 (one of the official ROW roms) works ok with 1.54.30.10. WM6.1 is much worse.
If you are having a lot of problems dropping calls etc try going back to an official WM6 ROM.

startngate said:
There are plenty of posts here at XDA that would have told you that as of now, this radio version can not be downgraded.
The search function is a beautiful thing ....
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I don't have this version. but this version is used by the main carrier's official WM6 ROM so it can't be that bad would it?
@ronin0215
I have not tried this so I am not sure if it works. But I have an idea. If you install the hard SPL from Olipro. In step 2, it writes an older radio file (I think it was 1.15 or something) onto the device. if it works then you can flash it with any version of radio you like.

Phone freezing, dont think its spl issue

I have flashed winmo 6.5 on my phone. I have radio version 1.70. I have hard spl version 3.29 flashed. I did flash a stock HTC rom to my tilt before flashing shifu's 4.0 rom to my phone. I did do a master reset on my phone also.
The problem is every once in a while my phone freezes or hangs severely. It seems to happen only when I access messaging. It only does it occasionally. When my phone freezes it will either hang for five or more minutes but I can stil access the start menu, or it freezes completly and I have to yank the battery.
I have tried different 6.5 roms from different people all with the same results. I have also tried doing numerous hard resets. I have tried disabling 3g and hspda. Im kind of confused as to what to try next. I would like to keep 6.5 but this problem is getting old.
I also have a coworker that has a wing that I unlocked and she is using on the ATT network as well with 6.5 and hard spl to. She has the exact same issue.
Any help would be great.

get a 6.1 to try only
and a different radio

Freezing issue and WM 6.5
Hi
Had the same issues with several 6.5-roms myself.
Experienced a lot of freezes and sometime it could not be resolved without reset.
Several times a soft reset has become a hard reset.
I always has flashed stock rom before a new flash.
I need my phone to work well, so yesterday I went back to a fast 6.1 rom (G's DK10final),
and at least for now the phone seems much more stable and responsive, and works well with all applications .

just same typicaL probLem witH me.. I used siFu 4.0 WM6.5 and it GettinG Freeze at the menu option.. and tHen I FLasHed it usinG uLtimate X2 V.11 WM6.5 and same probLem Hit me as weLL.. SO i decided to FLasH it usinG stock ROM WM6.1 ( OriGinaL Version tHat i Got From HTC website ).. aFter it FinisHed tHen i FLasH my kaiser usinG siFu V.19 WM6.1.. and it run weLL and stabLe in my Tytn.. So, is WM6.5 is uncompatibLe witH my tytn..? Hmm... i wonder.. i don't know.. FYI i usinG SPL 3.29 Hard2 and Radio 1.70.19.09..

Valliant7 said:
just same typicaL probLem witH me.. I used siFu 4.0 WM6.5 and it GettinG Freeze at the menu option.. and tHen I FLasHed it usinG uLtimate X2 V.11 WM6.5 and same probLem Hit me as weLL.. SO i decided to FLasH it usinG stock ROM WM6.1 ( OriGinaL Version tHat i Got From HTC website ).. aFter it FinisHed tHen i FLasH my kaiser usinG siFu V.19 WM6.1.. and it run weLL and stabLe in my Tytn.. So, is WM6.5 is uncompatibLe witH my tytn..? Hmm... i wonder.. i don't know.. FYI i usinG SPL 3.29 Hard2 and Radio 1.70.19.09..
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Thanks for the answers guys. I havnt been able to find an answer to this issue. I did my coworkers phone as well that is having the same issue but she has a wing. I am also using hardspl 3.29 and radio 1.70 as well. I've been contemplating going back to ATT's stock rom minus ATT crap. I guess tonight I will be doing that. Ill post result on here for archive purposes in a couple days in case anyone else has this issue and stumbles on this thread.
Thanks for you guys.

have u guys been flashing to stock rom before flashing a 6.5 rom?

I have been, both ATT and HTC stock before flashing. No help. Also did hard resets after stock flashes two before flashing 6.5 and after flashing 6.5.

mepis said:
Thanks for the answers guys. I havnt been able to find an answer to this issue. I did my coworkers phone as well that is having the same issue but she has a wing. I am also using hardspl 3.29 and radio 1.70 as well. I've been contemplating going back to ATT's stock rom minus ATT crap. I guess tonight I will be doing that. Ill post result on here for archive purposes in a couple days in case anyone else has this issue and stumbles on this thread.
Thanks for you guys.
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It nice to HeLp you mate.. It suck wHen u Got a probLem and nobody HeLp you at aLL.. Just wHat i experience LateLy touGH.. T_T.. I use WM6.1 modiFied ROM and i pLeased witH it peFormance ( tHanks to siFu tHat created tHis ROM^^ ) and i am not try to upGRade it witH WM6.5 stock ROM 'cause i'm to Lazy to experience same probLem aGain >.< stuck is suck dude.. ^^

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have u guys been flashing to stock rom before flashing a 6.5 rom?
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Yup.. i had a stock ROM beFore i decided to FLasH it to WM6.5 modiFied ROM.. wHat do you try to teLL mate?