First let me say, I admire all the Chefs here at xda, your works are fantastic!!! I read all I can about all the versions, as I am soon going to upgrade to an HD2......when I land the extra spending cash.
However in the meantime, I was wondering if someone like myself with no prior program exp. could tinker with a rom?
Where would I start.....I am guessing I need a Kitchen that will support my phone?
I was also wondering if there is a way to strip down a newer release of Windows Mobile 6.5 that will allow running on a 176x220 phone?
( I am aware of Aluet's 6.1 and 6.5 ).
What I would like to try or who knows inspire a Chef, to get the Titanium home, with flip clock and a working weather, then strip out alot of what the phone can't use, in hopes to slim down 6.5 and manage to get a stable flash.
I have an Audiovox SMT 5600 (Typhoon).
Now is there also a way to run a phone emulation on my PC as a test bed for the rom, as I would hate to brick my phone.
In any event any advice or info will be greatly welcome here, as I would like to learn more then just flashing my phone........which I would like to state I could not have learned how, were it not for xda and it's wonderful "How To" writers!!!!!!
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i have been using wm6.1 lately for nncuon n ranju but i m not satisified with it as it in its initial stages of development....n i m fed up of the problems...so i m requesting u to suggest roms which is
1.stable
2.fast
3.doesnt requier too much of resets
4.dont wish to format my phone for another rom for atleast a year
5.please give me the link for it or suggest the roms so i cud find myself..
6.i know all roms are not the best but the cookers but do suggest me the best of the best with little problems if they persist..
thanks in advance
prawns said:
i have been using wm6.1 lately for nncuon n ranju but i m not satisified with it as it in its initial stages of development....n i m fed up of the problems...so i m requesting u to suggest roms which is
1.stable
2.fast
3.doesnt requier too much of resets
4.dont wish to format my phone for another rom for atleast a year
5.please give me the link for it or suggest the roms so i cud find myself..
6.i know all roms are not the best but the cookers but do suggest me the best of the best with little problems if they persist..
thanks in advance
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After Reading your message, I think I like you very much, can you do me favor and provide me with winning Lottery numbers for coming Saturday and please make sure I win at least 10million EU and above. thanks
furthermore dont take my message to personal, it is getting to bored here in Universal forum. cheers mate
i would have asked the same as Prawns -- I am afraid Uni is for Hobbyists only
Since the Uni never had an HTC-build of WM6, ALL ROMs are cooked from versions for other devices.
There are NO definitive drivers that are guaranteed to work 100% correctly 100% of the time, because HTC never released them.
So - if you want total stability, and total reliability, go find a totally vanilla WM5 ROM - that'll give you that (but none of the 'extras').
If the only thing you really want from WM6.1 is the Office 2007-compatible Office Mobile stuff, then either build a WM5 ROM with that in-place, or look around - I'm pretty sure some of the WM5 cooked ROMs have that in them.
If you want all the latest & greatest, bells & whistles, then you've got to put up with the facts that:
a) There may be problems - these are being cooked by a single developer working pretty much in the dark, NOT by a development team.
b) The ROM likely won't have exactly the feature-set you want to see -- if you want that, either approach a cooker directly with an offer to pay him/her for it, or build it yourself (which is what I'm doing). Yes - it's a painful, time-consuming process, but at least you'll learn something - I sure am!
Just my opinion.....
-PJC
Has anyone seems Kavanna's WM 6.1 version for the T-Mo Dash?? It's awesome. I'd love it if someone was able to come up with something similar on the Wing...
here's the link with pics
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374890
That is WM6.1 STANDARD no Professional!
ok...so what's the big deal with that? It doesnt matter to me what's on it. I LOVE the layout of the home screen...if someone wanted to cook a rom that looked similar that would be awesome...
EDIT: I've searched thru the ROM's on this site and didnt find anything i liked. i dont like any of the opentouch stsuff or the touch-it stuff...i think maybe ill just go back to the dash/excalibur. I think i liked that phone better than the Wing/Herald
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ok...so what's the big deal with that? It doesnt matter to me what's on it. I LOVE the layout of the home screen...if someone wanted to cook a rom that looked similar that would be awesome...
EDIT: I've searched thru the ROM's on this site and didnt find anything i liked. i dont like any of the opentouch stsuff or the touch-it stuff...i think maybe ill just go back to the dash/excalibur. I think i liked that phone better than the Wing/Herald
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The software is incompatible with our phones because it's for a different TYPE of OS altogether. That's why he mentioned it. Not that professional means better. Professional means that it has the touchscreen version of Windows Mobile which is very different from the "standard" version of Windows Mobile. It's like telling a person to that you don't care that it's an XBOX360, it runs an NT kernel, so you want to be able to run a windows XP app on it. You can't just run the app, it has to be modified at the code level to work. That software was created by microsoft, so we do not have the source code to modify it.
Therefore, that's a standard phone, this is a professional. Everyone has their preference.
On a side note: If you're talking about TouchIT, you must be looking at some old ROMs... itje hasn't posted anything in a long time. Are you looking at Manila2D ROMs?
I was on the Herald Rom Development forum and went thru the Rom's Reveiwed by Pureskilzzz...It's got a lot of ROMs on it, but all of them are either all black themes, which i dont want, or the open touch iphone style stuff that I i dont really like either. I really want to get threaded messaging back, i used to have a treo 750, and the Dash I had upgraded to the Kavanna WM 6.1 and the threades SMS on there was amazing...
I'm not saying that i prefer the standard over the professioanl version. Im saying that like the way Kavanna did the home screen. With the sliding glass panes and the way it's set up. If that could be implemented into a Wing ROM would be awesome. if not, then ill stick with the WM 6.0 version i currently have my wing.
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I was on the Herald Rom Development forum and went thru the Rom's Reveiwed by Pureskilzzz...It's got a lot of ROMs on it, but all of them are either all black themes, which i dont want, or the open touch iphone style stuff that I i dont really like either. I really want to get threaded messaging back, i used to have a treo 750, and the Dash I had upgraded to the Kavanna WM 6.1 and the threades SMS on there was amazing...
I'm not saying that i prefer the standard over the professioanl version. Im saying that like the way Kavanna did the home screen. With the sliding glass panes and the way it's set up. If that could be implemented into a Wing ROM would be awesome. if not, then ill stick with the WM 6.0 version i currently have my wing.
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WHY should we impelment a TOdayscreen that is ONLY be used by joystick...when we (WM Professional) have a touchscreen!
Go to abtterystatus theme thread and see if someone copied the desinge with the touchscreen functionality...but i don´t know...
ANd threadded SMS can be added via .cab i think...or just install WM6.1 on your Wing!!!!
When tat is all you want...you really don´t know what device you have...cause you are running a wing with WM6 or WM5....
IF you ever have tested any of our roms you would see that a WIng is 1000times better thatn a Device without touchscreen.
good greif all i asked was a simple question and things get blown outta porportion. Ive read this forum for 6 months before i signed up knewing that this sort of thing would happen. Now it has...last time i will ask a question on this site ever...
Ive had MANY, MANY, MANY smartpones and used cooked rooms on all of them. I know that the Dash is not a touch screen phone and that the moving crystal look is for it's jogger bar...I'm just saying plain and simple...I LIKE THE LOOK of the sliding glass. im sure that the animation could be done weather is touch screen or not...
but with that said I do believe i finally found a ROM that I will enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399300
Im not into the entire fancy looking iphone ease of use stuff. I just like simple nice looking software. That's all i was trying to say...sorry for any confusion.
Ok!
Hey, its ok guys! I can see where papa is comming from. He spends alot of time making ROMs at the cost of his free time and effort and you kind of came across as a little demanding and abrasive. Alot of people started from the dash and ended up getting a wing/herald and are proud of the progress that has been made to further development on this phone, myself included! There are tons more options available as far as ROMs and UI for the Wing than the Dash, I know because I have both and just flashed my Dash again lastnight after waiting for about 4 months for a new ROM to come out! As far as my Wing, well I cant even keep up with the leaps and bounds in development on that! There has been alot of tention around here about people just poping up a demanding things without having bothered to try to look aroud and find it for themselves or bother to learn to do it themselves! So dont take it personaly if you get flamed or someone doesn't see things the way you do! Just decide to learn from it. You cant go wrong learning something new! Who knows, you could be the next new ROM chef for the Wing/Herald! That would ROCK!
we NEVER flamed someone...but the thread title "ROM request" ...this is not a "i wish for christmas present show" it is hard work...and there are thousand of threads relating the debatte about standard looking and professional WM6.1....
and it allways ended the same answer...: there is no rom looking like that..because it is not sensefull!!!!!
that´s all!
Sorry!
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we NEVER flamed someone...but the thread title "ROM request" ...this is not a "i wish for christmas present show" it is hard work...and there are thousand of threads relating the debatte about standard looking and professional WM6.1....
and it allways ended the same answer...: there is no rom looking like that..because it is not sensefull!!!!!
that´s all!
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Sorry, I did not mean to imply that you flamed anyone! I was just trying to let the guy know that instead of getting offended he could put some effort into learning and not as you said write a christmas list. My bad! See, I learned! I am always grateful for everything you have done papamops! I meant no slight to you or what you said!
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Sorry, I did not mean to imply that you flamed anyone! I was just trying to let the guy know that instead of getting offended he could put some effort into learning and not as you said write a christmas list. My bad! See, I learned! I am always grateful for everything you have done papamops! I meant no slight to you or what you said!
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I don´t feel you meant me...so nothing to say sorry for....
espacially you don´t have to say sorry...you jsut wanted to open his eys
trav2001 said:
I was on the Herald Rom Development forum and went thru the Rom's Reveiwed by Pureskilzzz...It's got a lot of ROMs on it, but all of them are either all black themes, which i dont want, or the open touch iphone style stuff that I i dont really like either. I really want to get threaded messaging back, i used to have a treo 750, and the Dash I had upgraded to the Kavanna WM 6.1 and the threades SMS on there was amazing...
I'm not saying that i prefer the standard over the professioanl version. Im saying that like the way Kavanna did the home screen. With the sliding glass panes and the way it's set up. If that could be implemented into a Wing ROM would be awesome. if not, then ill stick with the WM 6.0 version i currently have my wing.
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Most of those ROMs are older. Threaded messaging is built into all of the WM6.1 ROMs. Search for a Manila2D ROM for a "sliding" pane setup. The reason for pointing out the professional and standard was just to point out that it's incompatible and part of the WM6.1 of standard phones, not something that was created by that cook. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was flaming.
This petition i directed to HTC, Microsoft and all wireless carriers who sell these devices:
We want Windows Phone 6.5 for our HTC Touch Diamond/Pro/HD!
Sign Petition here
Help me so I can help you.
We already have windows 6.5 on our devices. Well, you can if you want it. Mine will have it on it as soon as I get my phone (just ordered it today).
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We already have windows 6.5 on our devices. Well, you can if you want it. Mine will have it on it as soon as I get my phone (just ordered it today).
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There are people like me preferred original rom which is much more stable and hussle free.
I voted.. i want wm6.5 with TF2.5.
Me tooo
. i want wm6.5 with TF2.5.
When was the last time an online petition worked? Just use a cooked clean ROM.
This is not gona happen.
Because of the fact that IF Microsoft releases wm6.5 for a phone it MUST have the windows button (Thats a button with the windows logo on it)on it.
Same thing if microsoft agrees a a keyboard to be a windows keyboard, u need the windows button (the one left to the ALT button)
So the TP has a Home Button (Symbol like) and all new phones and the ones who had an upgrade had the windows instead of the home button.
So its a thing between the hardware manufacture and microsoft. If u want wm6.5 for ur device make shure that the button is there.
No windows logo on the button no wm6.5 or higher, its that simple.
new dev is stopped on older devices. if you really want it, go do it yourself. theres nothing better about an official rom, they are slower and full of crap. especially branded ones.
another senseless "i want, i want, i want.." thread..
there are hope
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8744.html
And if you can't wait until then...
EnergyROM Akeo (WM 6.5 with TF3D 2.5) for Touch Pro
Seriously, though: does ANYONE know of ANY online petition that has EVER worked? I strongly doubt it.
This is a complete waste of time and effort. There are already ways to get WM 6.5 on our devices, and that's the best direction to channel time and effort.
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We already have windows 6.5 on our devices. Well, you can if you want it. Mine will have it on it as soon as I get my phone (just ordered it today).
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yes but people like me aren't that smart as you guys, i'm new like many other people and i can't find quickly what i want to find, like how to upgrade it, all i find is complexed words etc!
there's a good reason why we also have tutorial threads in their respective forums. If you want to upgrade your rom, then you go to the ROM development subforum, read the stickies and if you have any basic questions, google it OR if google doesn't strike, ask on the forums. Plenty of people willing to help.
The fuze is my first winmo phone and I learned it by lurking the forums. I read, searched, tested, and played with the phone until I learned what I need to learn. XDA and fuzemobility are massive treasure chests of information if you're willing to search (logically). Go to the right place and search and you'll find all the info you need. otherwise there are plenty of members out here that are willing to help.
Hey guys, my name is Sean and I'm from Pittsburgh PA.
So I believe I found the right place here at xda-dev. I just got a Touch Pro2 with sprint. The guy I bought the phone from offered me one with newer firmware but I told him I wanted the one with the oldest (in case some vulnerabilities were patched), so I think it is WM 6.1 or something, definitely not 6.5. Anyways, when I go to setting -> about is says TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38416.1; what other information can I find as to my version that may be of use to me?
I am sorry I am such a newb at this. Basically, I want to get the most out of my phone as possible (hell, it cost me 300$ [no rebate since I have an older data plan]) and do not even know where to start. There is so much information on these forums I am having a hard time making sense out of it. If anyone could give me some information as to how to figure out what I can do or some recommendations I would very much appreciate it. Thanks
-Sean
edit: I have been looking through the wiki and faqs so please give me a bit more insight other than steering me to their direction. Thanks again
I suggest you look on ppcgeeks for more cdma based TP2 information. Most of the people on the tp2 section there are sprint users.
thanks
thanks for the advice. ill check it out.
you're going to want to upgrade to 6.5, you can do so much more! and check out ppcgeeks.com.
So a few days back I installed mightyrom and about 20 cabs. Wasn't that difficult once i figured it out. Thanks for pointing me to ppcgeeks.
That's about it, but, what kind of stuff do you guys put on your tp2?
my personal favorite is slingbox, nothing like having a portable cable box that makes calls .
is it possible to play netflix's watch instantly on the tp2? That would be awesome.
Hi guys , it is true that herald is somehow out dated but we can still keep it alive by new looking roms ,sorry i donnot mean to spam or ask for free labor ,we will donate , from me as far as i live in Iran ,we donnot have credit cards to donate but we can done it by clicking and supporting sponserd links
anybody interested in keeping him alive!?
I think I have breathed all the life into the Herald/Wing/Dopod that I can:
I have made the Wing look like Windows Phone 7 (with my Trib7 Suite), like the HTC Evo (with my SPB Snark Edition), like the HTC HD2 (with my TribM2D ROM Set) and I have made Titanium available for the Wing. Not only that I have made it light and fast with my Base ROM with more than 70MB of internal storage.
In retro spect, I hope that new and old users of the device provide more ROMs. But I don't think it is feasible..
Not because of the people using the devices - not at all - but because of the limit to the device's resources and because Microsoft won't be putting out anymore updates: Build 23676 is the latest and greatest from Microsoft as of the 14th of August. After this, I don't believe that there will be anymore updates to work with.
As a challenge, mate, I'd like to see people out there make a ROM with this build.
I'm personally waiting for android to be better completed and then jump completely over to that... which is wing linux.
Still, while the wm 6.x are a huge improvement over what came with the phone and was definitely worth it and appreciated... there are a few bugs that are annoying. It would be great to see those fixed but I don't expect it to happen. The current state is good enough to be better anyway.
I agree
Hi everyone
Dear Tribulattifather or may i call you "the king of the wing"
i have used your roms and they are all best. as you mentioned we have a limited resources ... i would like to cook new roms but 1 thing that i donnot know where to start , many threads but as a noob to cook i need some clear directions ,if you can point me a good direction so i will be the soldier for you ,
thanks again for care Tribulattifather
Your the best !
I found your guide about cooking roms ! the best developer ever ! i will try to put my ideas and make a new rom but not as a challenge !!!!
Thank you; I really appreciate your patronage.
I can't wait to see what you guys come up with. I was thinking about getting another Wing again. They're pretty cheap now.
If you make a ROM i'll test it out.
Thats good
Hi
Thanks ! is there any visual emulator of herald so it will help us preventing sudden bricking the phone ?
2- if i wanna use spb shell only i have to put it on cabs folder ?
thanks again
Well, if you plan on making custom firmware for your device you should HardSPL your phone.
But you actually don't need custom firmware for SPB.
There is unfortunately no emulator for our phones, however.
Thanks again .cuz i thought there was some emulator for hd2 , so i will try to collect as many icons as i can ! thanks again
Okay. Cool.
Hey, also, I just bought another Wing
So i'm ready whenever you are