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I have bought locked treo750 cingular, my question is if i managed to unlock it via any unlocking services described here in the forum, will it work normally on any other network other than cingular without any problems or there will be some restrictions especially regarding GPRS and 3G??
And if I faced problems with cingular after unlocking, is it possible to upgrade treo Vodafone ROM?
Thank you very much for your help.
18 views without reply, am I asking a selly question? or no one of the forum has any answer for my question!!.
no offense, but the answers to all of your questions are here and out there on Google, etc. The 750 is a GSM phone, and once unlocked, will work with other GSM SIM cards/service providers. GPRS and 3G availability will depend on the service provider; most all provide GPRS a few provide 3G service. you may have to configure your phone work with other provider's internet service
I have an unlocked 750V that I use with T-Mobile and Cingular (US providers). T-Mobile doesn't have 3G service, so it uses the GPRS/EDGE connection. Phone features work without issue. Cingular has 3G and the phone works well there, too. hope this helps.
cortezzi said:
no offense, but the answers to all of your questions are here and out there on Google, etc. The 750 is a GSM phone, and once unlocked, will work with other GSM SIM cards/service providers. GPRS and 3G availability will depend on the service provider; most all provide GPRS a few provide 3G service. you may have to configure your phone work with other provider's internet service
I have an unlocked 750V that I use with T-Mobile and Cingular (US providers). T-Mobile doesn't have 3G service, so it uses the GPRS/EDGE connection. Phone features work without issue. Cingular has 3G and the phone works well there, too. hope this helps.
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Thank you very much for your prompt reply. You are right there is a lot of speakings about that here and on google, but what made me worry is the words of a guy working in cingular or something like that who told that cingular has customized the OS to be strictly perfect with their service in US, and so on, it may be not working well in my country, hence i searched the XDA-dev and treocentral, most of guys who unlocked their treo is suing t-mobile and they are in US, while in europe they have the 750v, so they don't need to unlock the cingular version, except, one who unlocked cingular one and used his orange SIM and claimed that he was unabale to cutomize the GPRS sittings to connect with orange SIM.
I hope that you have got my idea, and I am still worried. Now, my specific question to u as having an unlocked cingular tro750, is the connections paramaters in Start--> settings ---> connections --> connections the same as other PDAs, so, theorotically i can customize it to work with my vodavone SIM. Thank you very much for your help.
you should be able to configure/customize your GPRS settings without an issue...i don't know about the other guy...
cortezzi said:
you should be able to configure/customize your GPRS settings without an issue...i don't know about the other guy...
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Ok, thank you very much, i am waiting my device, and we will see.
I'm trying out a new TP2-CDMA from Telus (Canada) and this is by far the best system I could ever try in my case. I've always been a GSM user (since 1994) mostly because it gives you the latitude of using what ever device you want just by inserting your SIM card. so I got the Phone Inserted my Rogers SIM in it and it got me on the Rogers network right away I then activated the phone on the Telus network and it is also working fine... of course...
But the best thing is that I set it on "Global" network and it stays on GSM (Rogers), and when I get to an area where there is no GSM signal it switches by it self to the CDMA (Telus) network!!! this is amazing! NO MORE DEAD SPOTS! Of course you need to have two Service contract from two different service provider, but if you absolutely need to get service in areas where your current provider does not offer any, well it sure beats the hell out of having two different cellphone in your pocket... I have set my main cell number to transfer to the other on "No Answer after X # rings" and I get all my calls no mater what network I'm on!
The only down side to this TP2-CDMA Unit is that Telus got rid of a bunch of stuff that is in the TP2-GSM... like the GPS for instance... Well I guess you can't have it all...
I got Bing to work... so there is a GPS.... but Google Maps won't work...
Just thought I'd share my joy...
there is a telus gps registry fix on pccgeeks.
GPS works... i have google maps, tomtom7, and bing running fine, but sometimes, getting a lock can take very long
still new to winmo, so not too much going on with the phone, but am learning =b
zedex26, you are right!! there is a GPS!
The only thing is that I can't make Google Maps to work... it instals but when starting it it keeps on saying Loading... and never opens.
Anyway now were talking!! it has almost everything I was used to... But NO "Camera Flash" not that it was so usefull as camera flash but as a "FlashLite" it was...
patrickrivard said:
zedex26, you are right!! there is a GPS!
The only thing is that I can't make Google Maps to work... it instals but when starting it it keeps on saying Loading... and never opens.
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in google map
go to menu -- option -- gps setting -- use manual com 4
go back in option select "use gps"
close
reset your device
should work
inspireqc,
I finally got GM to work... Don't know why but the device needed to be on the CDMA network in order for the program to load... because on the GSM network, the program does not even load... it keeps on saying "Loding" and I could not even access the program... It's like it does not see the data connection...
Anyway There are other maping SW that work very well on both network on that particular device.
patrickrivard said:
inspireqc,
I finally got GM to work... Don't know why but the device needed to be on the CDMA network in order for the program to load... because on the GSM network, the program does not even load... it keeps on saying "Loding" and I could not even access the program... It's like it does not see the data connection...
Anyway There are other maping SW that work very well on both network on that particular device.
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I've found that I have to manually switch the data connection in order to use Google Maps when I switch between GSM and CDMA. It does work w/ both, however it's much better when I'm on Telus b/c this TP2 can't use Rogers 3G network. Keeping my fingers crossed for when they finally crack this baby open and hopefully find that the North American 3G freqs are there.
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I'm trying out a new TP2-CDMA from Telus (Canada) and this is by far the best system I could ever try in my case. I've always been a GSM user (since 1994) mostly because it gives you the latitude of using what ever device you want just by inserting your SIM card. so I got the Phone Inserted my Rogers SIM in it and it got me on the Rogers network right away I then activated the phone on the Telus network and it is also working fine... of course...
But the best thing is that I set it on "Global" network and it stays on GSM (Rogers), and when I get to an area where there is no GSM signal it switches by it self to the CDMA (Telus) network!!! this is amazing! NO MORE DEAD SPOTS! Of course you need to have two Service contract from two different service provider, but if you absolutely need to get service in areas where your current provider does not offer any, well it sure beats the hell out of having two different cellphone in your pocket... I have set my main cell number to transfer to the other on "No Answer after X # rings" and I get all my calls no mater what network I'm on!
The only down side to this TP2-CDMA Unit is that Telus got rid of a bunch of stuff that is in the TP2-GSM... like the GPS for instance... Well I guess you can't have it all...
I got Bing to work... so there is a GPS.... but Google Maps won't work...
Just thought I'd share my joy...
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I have both iGuidance 4 and Google Maps working, I am aware that some people have it working out of the box and some don't
Did you have to sim-unlock your phone first?
My friend looked up the technical specs of our chipset and they do support North American HSPA but it is not available, either by a hardware or firmware\software lock.
WOW
GSM and CDMA both work... that's fantastic.
Does this mean that it hold 2 different SIM cards? Or is the CDMA part devoid of a SIM card?
Would it be possible to use a GSM SIM card from any provider around the world and reconfiure the CDMA part to work with any CDMA network around the world?
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Did you have to sim-unlock your phone first?
My friend looked up the technical specs of our chipset and they do support North American HSPA but it is not available, either by a hardware or firmware\software lock.
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I have heard its a hardware lock! Wish someone can unlock it...
ai6908 said:
I have heard its a hardware lock! Wish someone can unlock it...
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well i would think it would be a radio issue have the same with mine. use it strict on rogers. i also looked up a little but the tp2 telus is 800 and 1900mhz hspa and rogers system is 850 and 1900mhz hspa so the frequency may be a issue as well.
anyone know how to fix the caller id name problem while on gsm?
Canadian folks, or TP2 users in CA, i have a Sprint TP2 thAT i would like to get to work in CA, what is the best scenario for both voice and data,thanks a lot
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Canadian folks, or TP2 users in CA, i have a Sprint TP2 thAT i would like to get to work in CA, what is the best scenario for both voice and data,thanks a lot
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for sprint phone i would stick to telus or bell unless you can put a sim card in your phone then your looking at rogers and the cdma global phone wont work on 3g rogers just edge
Thanks hiwire men, Sprint TP2 is a World phone as you know and will take any SIM, so you saying it wont get 3G with Rogers? why is that, is it Rogers or what is the reason? and hand how is Telus and Bell do it, they just input it in their database and bam, or will it require some ROM flashing. thxxx
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Thanks hiwire men, Sprint TP2 is a World phone as you know and will take any SIM, so you saying it wont get 3G with Rogers? why is that, is it Rogers or what is the reason? and hand how is Telus and Bell do it, they just input it in their database and bam, or will it require some ROM flashing. thxxx
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after reading up if you want 3g on rogers network you need a tilt 2 do to the fact rogers uses umts/wcdma 850/1900 mhz sprint is 900/1900 BUT the edge network will work on your sprint phone to rogers other then that it is it. rogers is doing alot of work on their 3g network and i think most of the fido network is 1900 mhz and rogers is 850mhz 3g but i think personally it may work in the future but not gonna be anytime soon. The 3g should work on telus and bell and might on fido ill have to see my friend and try it out. but i know for sure right now it dont work with rogers.
thank again, I do not have any FIDO preference, I assume coverage with Telus or Bell are about the same.So just walk the TP2 to the TELUS or Bell store and it is done?
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thank again, I do not have any FIDO preference, I assume coverage with Telus or Bell are about the same.So just walk the TP2 to the TELUS or Bell store and it is done?
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thats right i would say telus since sprint is a partner
Highwired, did u get a chance to try out TP2 on Fido? am still reading elsewhere that sPRINT tp2 can't get 3G in CA, WTH
I just got off the phone with Telus and what they told me is that they are releasing ANOTHER TP2 on the GSM network and that I would have to buy another phone TP2 just to get onto the GSM network.
This being said, is there any way to modify the radio signal in my CDMA phone to read both CDMA and GSM, or atleast get more speed out of my phone for connectivity to the net?
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I just got off the phone with HTC and the lady I spoke with told me, that to change the radio frequency I just had to change the ROM. That being said IF, I put a Telus HSPA ROM on there the phone should be capable of working on the network. Now that being said. If this is possible would it not be possible to run on both networks, CDMA and HSPA, making the signal control software dependent, meaning I have CDMA controls for standard phone calls and HSPA for running the highspeed network?
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Eazy, just HardSPL and security unlock your radio bro...Only then you can use the GSM networks in your country (I'm guessing it's US)
But you can only activate one at a time. Either GSM only or CDMA only..CMIIW..
Just my 2 cents
Actually it's Canada
Right but if I unlock the phone, and switch it back and forth on and off the networks, how would that affect my account, could I hide the fact i was doing this?
slight22 said:
Actually it's Canada
Right but if I unlock the phone, and switch it back and forth on and off the networks, how would that affect my account, could I hide the fact i was doing this?
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I have this phone on Telus...I got it unlocked and I put my work sim card in this phone and it's on rogers. I switch networks when necessary....If you get a Telus sim card you would be able to use it GSM.
You should be able to pick which network you use. I saw it in phone settings, I think.
bundybp said:
I have this phone on Telus...I got it unlocked and I put my work sim card in this phone and it's on rogers. I switch networks when necessary....If you get a Telus sim card you would be able to use it GSM.
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TELUS does not provide GSM at all. They are CDMA and UMTS.
So does this mean its possible. If i have a CDMA Sprint HTC Touch pro 2. That i have the potential of using it on At&t in the US?? All i have to do is unlock it?? Any information would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!!
And if one does unlock a radio on said Telus phone, can one use both radio frequencies, thus enabling both CDMA and HSPA frequencies?
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TELUS does not provide GSM at all. They are CDMA and UMTS.
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So Telus new 3G network is not GSM? It does have drop down menu showing "Send SMS over" GMS and CDMA. GSM is selected by default.
I unlocked my us cellular phone and now when i try to use it with ar&t i cant use the internet while im on the phone or find an at&t rom so i can use programs at&t offer can anyone help and i dont see a G next to to atenna just an E
Us cellular
So is it possible then to use the touch pro 2 from us cellular on a gsm network?
Thanks
yea it is but you wont be able to use a lot of features i believe ive been looking around for answers and asking ppl but no one seems to have anything to say
interesting. so what are the features i wont be able to use??
1) The US Cellular TP2 likely only supports the Euro 3G frequencies. As a result you will only get EDGE (indicated by the E) when on GSM in the US, not 3G.
2) If you want to use the Internet on ATT, you need to configure the ATT data settings (and of course pay for data) the same as you would with any unlocked/unbranded GSM phone. The settings can be found on the ATT site.
3) The US Cellular phone can run any WinMo programs that you install on it. You don't need a specific ROM.
To claim you "won't be able to use a lot of features" is incorrect.
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I am living in Jamaica so can the us cellular touch pro 2 be used here on a Gsm network with/ without being unlocked? thanks
yes it will make call and answer but internet you need to set it up
in costa rica it works but internet does not work
wow. i have been dealing with a very similar issue.
i am using a US Cellular TP2 on AT&T, Sim unlocked and security unlocked with the radio provided by Olinex. radio version2.32.00WU. see signature.
i am using an Energy CDMA rom, and i have internet, but i have been searching for some sort of settings to get 3G. as of now i am stuck with the E, or edge data connection. i have changed all of my settings to match those of MEdia Net, but still no 3G.
Anyone have any info or suggestions?
Hi,
I just bought a Telus Milestone while in Canada las week, I bought it from a Best Buy store in Toronto.
I live in Costa Rica and we use 850mhz 3G band but for some reason is not picking up 3G band only GSM with EDGE data connection.
I already try the "WCDMA only" option but still not working it goes out of service.
Is there anything different in Telus 3G network that could be not compatible here?. All of the iPhones 3G and 3GS work here with no problems, same as some other ATT phones.
According to the FCC my phone supports 850mhz 3G band.
Behind the battery it says: FCC IHDP56KC5
And according to FCC documentation it supports WCDMA 850/1900/2100 plus HSDPA 10.2 mbps
So, I don't know what's going on...
Hope somebody can help me, I heard there is a Field Test hidden option on the phone that can show some troubleshooting information, but I don't know how to access it.
Thanks for the help,
Luis
Planning to buy one too, so it'd be handy to know what's going on there. I take it you bought it unlocked? Also, is the APN and all that setup correctly? How do you have it setup, is it one of the new 3G phone lines or an old GSM one (which are capable of 3G as well)?
I have the exact same problem down in Mexico, I just received an unlocked Telus Milestone and all I get is edge. I am using the same APN configuration that I have on my Rogers Dream (G1) and I do get 3G on that one.
Also, I believe this forums are for HTC phones only, I'm not sure we'll get lots of help here on a Moto issue.
Mine does work on HSPA+ here on Telus.
Just a hypothesis would be: Since it has only been released on HSDPA/HSPA+ network in Canada, they haven't done proper testing on 3G mode and there is a bug in 3G only mode.
Like I said, I can't say for sure since the only other GSM network we have here is rogers which is mixed 3G and HSPA+.
On second thought, I do have a Fido/Rogers SIM lying around so I'll give it a shot over the weekend and let you guys know.
Thanks Ady, it does sound like a compatibility issue. I have tried Telcel, I should be able to try ATT in the US next week.
Other than the 3G issue, this phone very darn nice... way faster than the dream, Multitouch work's great ont the browser.
yeah, its really good.
Update: I gave fido a try and it seems to be working, but on HSPA.
I bought it locked to Telus, and got the unlock code from "UnlockMotoDroid"
My SIM card is one of the old GSM ones, but I already try the new 3G SIM Cards (kolby3g) and same problem, only EDGE data connection. APN and all that is correct.
pasker17, I'll love to hear if you find a solution. Keep me posted.
Ady, agree with you, other than the 3G issue, this phone is pretty awesome..!!! Hope I can find a fix soon. I'm wondering if this could be related to the HSPA+ advanced technology that might not be compatible here, but as far as I know it should be backwards compatible with any other 3G technology.
And also, I heard people is using it with AT&T no problems, 3G data speed. Do they have HSPA+ ?
Thanks for your help guys
AllI can tell you guys is ther eis something diffrent with Radio signal we are using here ( Canada ) and the one in South America, I been tryin to use Latam f/w on my stone and no signal aty all whatsoever , so th eother way around doesnt work , they must be something we are missing about network compatibility , 1 thing I am sure Telus 's 3g network is the new HSPA .
double post sry .
DAG,
Yes, maybe there is some sort of advanced HSPA+ network in Canada, and that might be the reason is not working in some other places.
But as far as I know, all those HSPA+ flavors, should be backwards compatible.
Now I wish Motorola frees the bootloeader and I can try it with some other custom ROM.
LuisoCR said:
DAG,
Yes, maybe there is some sort of advanced HSPA+ network in Canada, and that might be the reason is not working in some other places.
But as far as I know, all those HSPA+ flavors, should be backwards compatible.
Now I wish Motorola frees the bootloeader and I can try it with some other custom ROM.
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That wouldn't be it. If you the iPhone works in Costa Rica the Milestone should work.
Have you called ICE? From the very brief info I can find on how to get the iPhone to work in Costa Rica it almost appears that ICE itself has to approved the devices on its network. Apparently they have approved the iPhone. I assume they'd do it via IMEI
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That wouldn't be it. If you the iPhone works in Costa Rica the Milestone should work.
Have you called ICE? From the very brief info I can find on how to get the iPhone to work in Costa Rica it almost appears that ICE itself has to approved the devices on its network. Apparently they have approved the iPhone. I assume they'd do it via IMEI
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Yes and no, you do need to provide an IMEI to get your data plan working, but it should work with any device. I did it when I had a 3GS and have used my SIM on other phones and 3G works normally when setting my old apn. This is indeed bizarre
I called ICE, and went to their offices. Milestone is not
in the "approved list" so they won't even take a look. Same with the iPhones they work fine but are not "approved".
They already got my Milestone's IMEI registered on the system.
At the end they told me that this could be a software incompatibility but since the phone is not "in the approve list" there is nothing else to do or test for them.
Since this phone for sure supports 850mhz 3g band, I'm starting to think that it could be a software thing.
I'll be in the US in a couple of week and will try to test it on ATT, I heard a lot of people are using Canadian Milestone there with full 3G speeds
LuisoCR said:
I called ICE, and went to their offices. Milestone is not
in the "approved list" so they won't even take a look. Same with the iPhones they work fine but are not "approved".
They already got my Milestone's IMEI registered on the system.
At the end they told me that this could be a software incompatibility but since the phone is not "in the approve list" there is nothing else to do or test for them.
Since this phone for sure supports 850mhz 3g band, I'm starting to think that it could be a software thing.
I'll be in the US in a couple of week and will try to test it on ATT, I heard a lot of people are using Canadian Milestone there with full 3G speeds
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I take it you've tested known-working SIM cards and all (not only Kolbi ones), I know for a fact that mine works with APN: icecelular, if you care to give it a try with mine, let me know and we can arrange something. I really want to buy a Milestone and want to know if it works with 3g here or not
I've tested GSM Sim Cards (green and pink) and kolbi3g SIM cards, all of them with data enabled, not of them works with 3G data speed only EDGE.
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I've tested GSM Sim Cards (green and pink) and kolbi3g SIM cards, all of them with data enabled, not of them works with 3G data speed only EDGE.
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OK then, if you've tested with apn:icecelular for the old GSM ones, and kolbi3g for the new ones, then I guess it's something specific to the phone, but this is extremely strange. :S
Great... is working now in full 3G speed.
I just applied the Barazilian update to 2.0.1 and my radio baseband was changed. And now I can get full 3g data speeds and I have an "H" symbol on top
LuisoCR said:
Great... is working now in full 3G speed.
I just applied the Barazilian update to 2.0.1 and my radio baseband was changed. And now I can get full 3g data speeds and I have an "H" symbol on top
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How did you do this? I already ordered mine so as soon as it gets here I want to give it a try
Take a look at this thread
http://alldroid.org/threads/15924-Rooting-Telus-Milestone
They will tell you how to do it and even how to get root access, everybody is doing this in Canada and I already got root access on mine.
Let me know if you need some help
LuisoCR said:
Great... is working now in full 3G speed.
I just applied the Barazilian update to 2.0.1 and my radio baseband was changed. And now I can get full 3g data speeds and I have an "H" symbol on top
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That's great news, guess it was software. haha.