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Is there a setting or application which enables the light sensor to detect the phone is away from someone's ear and thus bring it out of sleep mode?
I know the light sensor can be used in this manner to keep the phone locked while it's in a case (if it's dark, a program locks the screen to avoid accidental calls, etc., and when the phone is taken out of a case it is automatically unlocked).
Thanks for any help.
Hi:
Did you ever find a way to do this? Seems like it would be very useful.
Thanks!
600GOL and I are working on an app to do this - expect a beta version soon. However, I'm not sure that the light sensor is able to do as the original poster suggests, as it appears to get switched off along with the backlight. So as soon as the backlight gets switched off, so the does the sensor, and we haven't found a way around this.
The good news is that the orientation sensor doesn't have the same problem, so we are working on using that to trigger the screen on/off.
Cheers,
Steve.
StevePritchard said:
600GOL and I are working on an app to do this - expect a beta version soon. However, I'm not sure that the light sensor is able to do as the original poster suggests, as it appears to get switched off along with the backlight. So as soon as the backlight gets switched off, so the does the sensor, and we haven't found a way around this.
The good news is that the orientation sensor doesn't have the same problem, so we are working on using that to trigger the screen on/off.
Cheers,
Steve.
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Hey, that's great news, I will keep an eye out for it. I was wondering, don't programs like PocketShield use the light sensor to turn on the phone? This leads me to think that the light sensor must still be working even when the device has the backlight off. Just a thought, anyway, thanks so much for your reply
FYI - Beta version released here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
Cheers,
Steve.
Works a treat
Works just great for me (bog standard XDA serra).
Thanks a bundle.
DBo.
Hi,
I recently bought a HTC Touch HD, and I think that the "shutdown-screen-when-you-answer-a-call" function of phones like Diamonds, Touch Pro and HD is the dumbest way to prevent accidental presses on the touch screen.
Our devices have a light sensor, that could be used to switch off the screen if the phone is near the ear (like the phone using an "i" word ) and keep it on when you answer with loudspeaker for example.
The "problem" with this function is that when you're already in a "no-light" environment, the screen lock function doesn't work.
To resolve this issue, I think we could use the G-Sensor. Indeed, if the place has no light, then, the phone cannot detect the proximity of a ear. But when you put the phone next to the ear, you hold it a the vertical...
To make it short, the app should do :
Do nothing in normal use.
When a call arrives :
- it monitors the ambient light
If there's light :
- when you answer the call, if there's light then no more (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches off the screen and continue to monitor.
- while in call, if there's light again (you want to see some info on the screen for example), it switches on the screen and continue to monitor.
- and so on until you end the call
If there's no light :
- when you answer the call, but let it at the horizontal (you let it on the desk for example), it does nothing
- if you take the phone on the vertical position (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches the screen off.
- if the phone, during a call, goes from vertical to horizontal of horizontal to vertical, the screen is switches on/of
- and so on until you end the call
Obviously, you could replace the "switch on/off screen" with "lock/unlock screen".
What do you think about ?
UPDATE :
After playing a bit with the HD, it appears that HTC DOES use the light sensor for turning the screen off during a call.
Let's do a test :
In a place with plenty light :
- put your mobile with the face up
- call a number (always face up) : the screen will not be switched off until the light sensor detects a loss of luminosity or a timeout set in the registry.
So, my conclusion is that HTC already use the light sensor to switch the screen off during a call, but they do it in an absurd way :
- they poll the sensor just to shut down the screen, not to switch it on.
- once the screen has been switched off, they do not longer poll at all.
Do you think it could be a way to "hack" their system to do what we want to do ?
no one has an opinion on this idea ? if there's nobody that want / have the time to develop a soft, I understand, but at least please, give me just your opinion
I agree with your idea for such an application. I must admit that I am very used to just pushing the power button when I answer a call (from Polaris use) to ensure I am not going into other programmes as I rub the phone against my ear. On the other hand I am trying to get used to the Touch HD's modern automatic method but I can't help not feeling relaxed that it has worked and keep trying to look at the screen in the corner of my eye to see if it did go off or not.
If it does not come now I am sure there will be such an app very soon just as you describe especially as all the latest models now have it.
i'd use the half of it that doesn't require the G-sensor as i don't have a diamond or HD...
but i'm certainly sick and tired of my ear operating my touch screen while i'm speaking.
I've written a prototype to do exactly what you are talking about although the one crucial part I am missing is the lock code. Every example or suggestion for locking the screen is very hacky and never feels like a good approach. If anyone has a good solution for locking the screen (especially in managed code) I would be happy to complete what I have started and release it with source so it could be improved upon.
So far, the best locking utility I have seen is PocketShield although I'm not sure what approach was used for locking in that case. It almost feels like a form that captures all windows events but I'm not sure exactly.
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I've written a prototype to do exactly what you are talking about although the one crucial part I am missing is the lock code. Every example or suggestion for locking the screen is very hacky and never feels like a good approach. If anyone has a good solution for locking the screen (especially in managed code) I would be happy to complete what I have started and release it with source so it could be improved upon.
So far, the best locking utility I have seen is PocketShield although I'm not sure what approach was used for locking in that case. It almost feels like a form that captures all windows events but I'm not sure exactly.
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Maybe the simpliest way to "protect" the screen is to switch it off. I suppose it must be some API to do that ?
Concerning the "locking", I think the simpliest way is to put on focus an empty window (transparent if it can be ).
I'm really happy to know that you're working on an app like that
lpaso said:
Hi,
I recently bought a HTC Touch HD, and I think that the "shutdown-screen-when-you-answer-a-call" function of phones like Diamonds, Touch Pro and HD is the dumbest way to prevent accidental presses on the touch screen.
Our devices have a light sensor, that could be used to switch off the screen if the phone is near the ear (like the phone using an "i" word ) and keep it on when you answer with loudspeaker for example.
The "problem" with this function is that when you're already in a "no-light" environment, the screen lock function doesn't work.
To resolve this issue, I think we could use the G-Sensor. Indeed, if the place has no light, then, the phone cannot detect the proximity of a ear. But when you put the phone next to the ear, you hold it a the vertical...
To make it short, the app should do :
Do nothing in normal use.
When a call arrives :
- it monitors the ambient light
If there's light :
- when you answer the call, if there's light then no more (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches off the screen and continue to monitor.
- while in call, if there's light again (you want to see some info on the screen for example), it switches on the screen and continue to monitor.
- and so on until you end the call
If there's no light :
- when you answer the call, but let it at the horizontal (you let it on the desk for example), it does nothing
- if you take the phone on the vertical position (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches the screen off.
- if the phone, during a call, goes from vertical to horizontal of horizontal to vertical, the screen is switches on/of
- and so on until you end the call
Indeed, you could replace the "switch on/off screen" with "lock/unlock screen".
What do you think about ?
I searched the forum for an existing app that could do this, but I didn't find anything.
If there's already an app that do this stuff, I'm truely sorry for this post.
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I'm looking for this.. If you find a solution send me a PM, I will do the same
Thanks!
We need this app, how does the iphone acheive this?
I think the 'easiest' way to make this app would be to keep the phone doing what it does currently (put the phone on standby when answering a call) then have the light sensor take the phone out of standby when it receives light, (taking it away from your ear)?
Obviously if its dark then we would have to use the power butten as we currently do now or have the Gsensor do it with a twisting motion (vertical to horizontal).
If anyone has an idea how to program this i'm willing to help in any way, the current systems seems so crude on such tech devices!
DB
lpaso said:
Hi,
I searched the forum for an existing app that could do this, but I didn't find anything.
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There a program, that can help you. Not full, but it can switch off screen, using g-sensor. However its using not vertical aligment of the phone. There are using changing orientation of the phone to decide when phone near the ear.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2622590&postcount=45
I have always wondered why our WM phones don't do what the iphone does...
For the SE Xperia X1, the light sensor is right near the earpiece (along with the little front facing camera), so it would go to virtually 100% darkness when near the ear. I would presume unless you are using the phone also in 100% darkness (which should be pretty rare I would guess) then it would work like the iphone.
I have also been quite annoyed by the fact that after a phonecall, sometimes I found i'm in a note taking program or weather program or something else. It just seems dumb, considering our phone HAVE these lightsensors?!
I think it's a fantastic idea to solve a VERY FRUSTRATING PROBLEM
lpaso said:
no one has an opinion on this idea ? if there's nobody that want / have the time to develop a soft, I understand, but at least please, give me just your opinion
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I would rank myself this way:
Not a newbie who's just gotten a touchscreen phone and is now discovering the quirks when holding screen to ear,
and not a developer,
but a power-user. I have installed all sorts of XDA-developed features/enhancements for my phone.
But now I have 4 years experience -- starting with the T-Mobile MDA, and its successor, the T-Mobile WING. And despite all of the advancements expected in that time, STILL, I inadvertently end a call, or put it on hold accidentally, ALL THE TIME. Between that and trying to retrieve the phone from my pocket just to answer the damn ringing phone, I would say I have, on the average, a 20% success rate -- and 80% of the time the call is disrupted. And at least once a day my ohone, in my pocket, even when using s2u2, manages to REDIAL my latest conversation, so mcuh so that all my friends say "why don;t you get rid of that phone. It does all these whiz bang things but still can't reliably manage a basic phone call.
My most recent experiment was to call someone, then when they answered, press the s2U2 key to lock the phone screen. Only I came to find out from A_C that this is no good: S2u2 does not have recognition that you're ending the call, thus, since it's in lock-mode, the "END CALL" or Hang-Up hard key does not work.
So by all means, I would even pay for an app that once and for all handles the baseline problems of simply making a phone call. Thanks for making this request.
fireweed, have you contacted A_C, author of s2u2 ?
There may just be perfect synergy between the two of you. His "best of breed" screen-lock app is widely used -- and other developers, like supbro, for example, author of iDialer, have collaborated on small code-bits from A_C to solve some integration problems.
If for any reason you are unfamiliar with A_C, go to his website: www.ac-s2.com -- where his apps are explained, and all link back to XDA.
He's even managed to make the screen lock work, yet, have it selectively overridden when you insert headphone jack -- such that his s2p (slide to play) app opens and allows you to switch music tracks etc while otherwise the screen and buttons are all fully locked...
fireweed said:
I've written a prototype to do exactly what you are talking about although the one crucial part I am missing is the lock code. Every example or suggestion for locking the screen is very hacky and never feels like a good approach. If anyone has a good solution for locking the screen (especially in managed code) I would be happy to complete what I have started and release it with source so it could be improved upon.
So far, the best locking utility I have seen is PocketShield although I'm not sure what approach was used for locking in that case. It almost feels like a form that captures all windows events but I'm not sure exactly.
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Hi,
After playing a bit with the HD, it appears that HTC DOES use the light sensor for turning the screen off during a call.
Let's do a test :
In a place with plenty light :
- put your mobile with the face up
- call a number (always face up) : the screen will not be switched off until the light sensor detects a loss of luminosity or the timeout set in the registry expires.
So, my conclusion is that HTC already use the light sensor to switch the screen off during a call, but they do it in an absurd way :
- they poll the sensor just to shut down the screen, not to switch it on.
- once the screen has been switched off, they do not longer poll at all.
Do you think it could be a way to "hack" their system to do what we want to do ?
I think HTC does not only switch off the display but goes to standby (phone works independent if you didn't know yet). Your idea is a lot different in terms of programming.
I don't know if it goes to standby : when the screen is switched off during a call, a press on any button switch it on again. In the registry, the key controlling the timeout before the screen is shut off is named "LightSensorToScreenOff" so I think it is just switching off the screen...
lpaso said:
I don't know if it goes to standby : when the screen is switched off during a call, a press on any button switch it on again. In the registry, the key controlling the timeout before the screen is shut off is named "LightSensorToScreenOff" so I think it is just switching off the screen...
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Well if thats the case, its HALF of what the iphone does... it turns off the screen based on the light sensor going dark suddenly (next to ear) but then fails to turn the screen back on after you move the phone away from your ear...
Anyone know how to enable this?
Interested in having this feature too. Isn't it possible to have the G-Sensor determine when the phone is vertical and shut the screen and then when it is lying flat to turn the screen back on again. Believe that the Iphone does it this way, not with the light sensor.
Hmm... I never had my ear 'navigating' my phone during in-call before....
I never allowed the screen to touch my face anyway, and the speaker is facing the ear canal, when I receive or make calls...
But i do understand that s2u2 can do what you guys might need, it locks the screen during in call.
Hennyb said:
Interested in having this feature too. Isn't it possible to have the G-Sensor determine when the phone is vertical and shut the screen and then when it is lying flat to turn the screen back on again. Believe that the Iphone does it this way, not with the light sensor.
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I think the Iphone has something called proximity sensor, which senses the distance from the ear to the phone, hence when the phone rest on the outer ear, the phone screen shut off.
Or am I wrong?
Section9 said:
I think the Iphone has something called proximity sensor, which senses the distance from the ear to the phone, hence when the phone rest on the outer ear, the phone screen shut off.
Or am I wrong?
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No, you're right. It uses an iR sensor to know if there's something near the phone.
I find this behavior of my touch pro irritating and stupid. The screen goes off during coversation. We all know that. And we know that we can tweak it via the registry not to go off at all.
But WHY can't it just act like my wife's iPhone does? The iPhone turns the screen off during conversation by using the LIGHT DETECTOR. So when you put it near your ear screen goes off and immediately returns when you move the phone away from your ear. I am using my wife's iphone a lot and I can say this behavior works excellent, flawless and so much better than the Touch Pro, where it's either goes off and I have to click on a button each time to turn it on again. Or just leave the LCD on even I talk for half an hour. Did anyone fix that ?
Look for Touch InCall Screen Tweak.
Check the options for:
"Ignore Light Sensor"
"Ignore First Screen Off"
and I believe it'll work how you want it to.
unless one talk for a long time turning on and off the lcd backlight would most likely use more power then having it on during the call these devices don't have led backlight or use oled
so there is still a neon backlight type of thing I believe
and they use most power when turning on
mindfrost82 said:
Look for Touch InCall Screen Tweak.
Check the options for:
"Ignore Light Sensor"
"Ignore First Screen Off"
and I believe it'll work how you want it to.
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I just want to second this. The behavior you describe really annoyed my about my fuze as well, when I had been using a Samsung Eternity that operated similar to the iPhone (detected when it was at your ear to turn off screen).
Get the program mindfrost said, it works like a charm! You can even make the phone automatically turn to speakerphone when you sit it face down mid-call, and go back to normal when you pick it back up! It's an excellent add-on.
I don' understand one thing. Why do we check Ignore Light Sensor? I have the program, my phone now works like an iphone with the settings you described but that option is throwing me for aloop
I went to the thread for the app and found that the app is working a bit different than I thought. I do enjoy this app. Nuts that this isn't an out of the box type behaviour.
the iphone doesnt use the ambient light sensor, it uses the proximity sensor which the touch pro doesnt have. if you tilt it up to the sunlight you can see 3 black spots on the iphone. one that is the light sensor, a proximity beam and sensor. it can tell if an object like your face is too close to use the screen and turns it off during a call.
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the iphone doesnt use the ambient light sensor, it uses the proximity sensor which the touch pro doesnt have. if you tilt it up to the sunlight you can see 3 black spots on the iphone. one that is the light sensor, a proximity beam and sensor. it can tell if an object like your face is too close to use the screen and turns it off during a call.
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Thanks for all replies. I will try Touch InCall that you guys suggested.
Jack : I didn't know that. That seems like a smart thing to do, better than using the light sensor I wonder why the HTC guys didn't think about that being that the HTC devices are more expensive, newer and should have better tech. Oh well
I'm a bit curious why everybody wants their screen to remain on while they are talking on the phone. Do you like to press the screen with your cheek while you're talking? What do you need to look at the screen for? I've always had the option of turning the screen off while talking enabled.
pennywisdom said:
I'm a bit curious why everybody wants their screen to remain on while they are talking on the phone. Do you like to press the screen with your cheek while you're talking? What do you need to look at the screen for? I've always had the option of turning the screen off while talking enabled.
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I don't think anyone is saying that - they want the screen to turn off when the phone is against their face, and turn on if the phone is moved, to type in numbers, take notes, etc.
DaveLinger said:
I don't think anyone is saying that - they want the screen to turn off when the phone is against their face, and turn on if the phone is moved, to type in numbers, take notes, etc.
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Yep. That's correct
DaveLinger said:
I don't think anyone is saying that - they want the screen to turn off when the phone is against their face, and turn on if the phone is moved, to type in numbers, take notes, etc.
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I guess the impression I got from the Tilt (which doesn't have a light sensor) and the users of the Tilt, they didn't like the screen to blank during a call. I always turn my screen off with the power button if I have to while I'm on the phone so I never understood why they wanted it to stay on.
I think the problem with using the photo sensor reading is that if it is dark, you'll never get the screen to turn back on, even if you pull the phone away from your ear.
On the Raphael/Touch Pro perhaps the improved screen sensitivity and the non-bezelled screen makes for ear shenanigans while ear mashing.
I could get away with ear mashing on the Tilt and the Wizard.
What if you are using bluetooth in the car?
Finally got my app up and running on the Market and being a die hard Galaxy Note and xda user, I thought it would only be appropriate to post it here for fellow users to enjoy. =)
IntelliCover is a utility which uses your device’s proximity sensor to control its display and allow fast and efficient access to your phone or tablet.
It turns the screen turns off automatically when you put your device in your pockets, close its flip cover, store the device in a bag, or even just leave the device facing down on a table. As soon as the device is back in your hand the proximity sensor is triggered again, the screen turns back on and your phone is instantly ready for use.
IntelliCover is more feature-filled than any other similar application on the market. And the best part? It's FREE!
Click here to visit the market page and download the app for free
P.S. If you find a bug, I'd appreciate if you could report it to me before giving a bad rating because it usually only takes me less than a day to fix.
*** Features ***
Calibration:-
Proximity Sensor Delay – Add a delay to the time takes to trigger the sensor and turn the screen off.
Application Settings:-
Automatic Unlock – Automatically dismiss the Unlock Screen, provided there is no password. *Experimental*
Disable in Landscape Mode – Disable the proximity sensor when an application is in landscape mode.
Go to Home Screen – Show the home screen when the screen turns on.
Screen Off Only – The screen will turn off but not on when the proximity sensor is triggered.
Screen On Only – The screen will turn on but not off when the proximity sensor is triggered.
Start on Boot – Automatically start the IntelliCover service when the device turns on.
Notifications:-
Proximity Warning – Vibrate every time the proximity sensor is triggered.
Status Bar Notification – Show an ongoing notification in the status bar.
Screen On and Off Actions:-
Airplane Mode – Enable or disable airplane mode.
Auto Rotate (will be removed) – Activate or deactivate.
Auto Sync – Activate or deactivate auto-sync.
Bluetooth – Enable or disable Bluetooth.
Haptic Feedback (will be removed) – Activate or deactivate haptic feedback.
Ringer Mode – Switch ringer mode to Normal (Sound with Vibration), Vibrate or Silent.
Wi-fi – Enable or disable wi-fi.
*** Frequently Asked Questions ***
Q) Is it really free? Where are the ads?
Ans) IntelliCover is completely free and has no ads whatsoever!
Q) Do I require a rooted device to use IntelliCover?
Ans) Nope. IntelliCover works on all supported phones and tablets, rooted or unrooted.
Q) Doesn’t using the proximity sensor consume a lot of battery?
Ans) Actually, the proximity sensor consumes minimal power, almost little enough to be insignificant.
Q) What are the ‘Screen On’ and ‘Screen Off’ actions?
Ans) IntelliCover allows you to set events to be triggered when the screen turn on or off. For example, by setting wi-fi to turn on when your screen turns on and setting it to turn off when the screen turns off, you could save a huge amount of battery power.
Q) Can I request a feature?
Ans) Of course! Head over to the Contact section to drop me an e-mail.
Q) Why does IntelliCover keep running in the background?
Ans) It has to run in the background to know when the proximity sensor is triggered.
Q) How can I uninstall the application?
Ans) First you must go into Security settings and remove IntelliCover from System Administrator. Then it can be uninstalled like any other application.
Q) Can I donate to the developer?
Ans) Not yet but hopefully I’ll have something set up soon.
*** Permissions Required ***
INTERNET - Required for error logging (to send crash reports)
WAKE_LOCK - Required to unlock screen
WRITE_SETTINGS - Required to toggle ringer mode
VIBRATE - Required to vibrate phone
RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED - Required to detect phone boot
WRITE_SYNC_SETTINGS - Required to toggle autosync
READ_SYNC_SETTINGS - Required to toggle autosync
BLUETOOTH - Required to toggle bluetooth
BLUETOOTH_ADMIN - Required to toggle bluetooth
ACCESS_WIFI_STATE - Required to toggle WiFi
UPDATE_DEVICE_STATS - Required to toggle WiFi
CHANGE_WIFI_STATE - Required to toggle WiFi
*** Contact ***
Feel free to contact me at [email protected] with any issues, bug reports, feature requests, suggestions or queries. Please read the FAQ above before sending an e-mail to avoid redundancy.
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Nice one mate.really good work.
Keep it up:thumbup:
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awsome app . really good
but need some work as ... i may close the phone an put it over the table ..... need option to not turn on the screen when its turn off manual
what happen when my hand somehow moves to the proximity sensor?
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Nice one mate.really good work.
Keep it up:thumbup:
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Thanks! It's my first app so hearing from happy users is really exciting and inspiring.
engfantom said:
awsome app . really good
but need some work as ... i may close the phone an put it over the table ..... need option to not turn on the screen when its turn off manual
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Oh I get it. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll try to fix it as soon as possible. I have exams right now but after that (in a week probably) I'll release a fixed, updated version. And thanks also for the rating. With a new app, it really helps to get good ratings
meethere said:
what happen when my hand somehow moves to the proximity sensor?
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Well there is a delay option. So you could set a delay of 2-3 seconds or more so that if you move your hand by mistake to the proximity sensor, it won't just turn off, it'll be delayed. Or you could set the vibrate function on so if your hand goes there, the phone will vibrate to warn you about it. :good:
Downloaded and voted with five stars.
Thanks mate. :laugh:
Downloading rite now..
good idea ! But, it's not working with flip cover.
Indeed, the screen turn off when the flip cover is at 5mm of the sensor but it turns on again when completely closed!!!
can you fix that?
keep on the good work ...
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samvox said:
good idea ! But, it's not working with flip cover.
Indeed, the screen turn off when the flip cover is at 5mm of the sensor but it turns on again when completely closed!!!
can you fix that?
keep on the good work ...
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Hmm...not sure. It works with my flip cover. Almost all phones (like Galaxy Note) have a proximity sensor that only detects FAR or NEAR. So even though I've told the application to turn the screen off when an object comes to a certain distance, either the hardware itself or the phone's firmware doesn't have the ability to detect the distance. Proximity sensors are only made to be used when on a call so it doesn't really need to detect distance in its regular everyday usage I guess.
I did have a similar problem to yours when testing with a sort of snake-skin leather Zenus case because it had some tiny ridges in it, but in most test cases it worked. I'll try my best to see if I can dig up a solution. =)
If I remember well, it depends on the color of the cover.
Darker means that the proximity doesn't work very well.
I have another proximity app, I'll switch to this one very soon, and I have to put a little white stripe on the cover,where the sensor is, to make it work correctly.
If I'm not wrong,is an issue with all the sensors and not a program fault.
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raistlin74 said:
If I remember well, it depends on the color of the cover.
Darker means that the proximity doesn't work very well.
I have another proximity app, I'll switch to this one very soon, and I have to put a little white stripe on the cover,where the sensor is, to make it work correctly.
If I'm not wrong,is an issue with all the sensors and not a program fault.
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Now that I think about it, that actually makes alot of sense. I don't know what it is with ALL sensors and black but they do tend to freak out. I even have an amazing Logitech mouse that works on mirrors and glass and see-through plastic and anywhere else except for on pitch black surfaces lol. The only crude fix I could think of is to use a combo of proximity sensor and light sensor somehow but it would be a waste of battery in my opinion.
Just tried your app, but didn't really worked : when I flip my (black) cover (or when I hide the sensor with my finger), the screens goes off but just for few seconds before getting on again. I'm using WidgetLocker btw, I don't know if it affects your app or not.
Edit : if you need logs or anything, feel free to ask
Sine. said:
Just tried your app, but didn't really worked : when I flip my (black) cover (or when I hide the sensor with my finger), the screens goes off but just for few seconds before getting on again. I'm using WidgetLocker btw, I don't know if it affects your app or not.
Edit : if you need logs or anything, feel free to ask
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Hi! I'm still searching into it but it would seem that darker colors do not work well with the proximity sensor. Since this doesn't really have much to do with the actual programming itself I'm not sure I can do much about that.
BUT it should work when you use your finger. WidgetLocker shouldn't make a difference, it just works like any other lockscreen so it won't affect the functionality of my app. The fact that it turns on after a while baffles me though, because programmatically it doesn't make sense to me.
If you don't mind, could you please try putting the phone down on a surface or putting it in your pocket to test it? The proximity sensor is pretty sensitive so if you'd moved your finger even a bit it could have gotten triggered. Let me know if it still doesn't work and then we can move on to the messy part.
*yawn* Time for bed
This is happening right now!
Sorry, was just shocked when I actually saw the posting dates/time, I always assume apps have been around and had the bugs worked out, but I see this is newly born! So, for an i717 Note (AT&T Branded) this should essentially work the same, right? I mean there are no processor specific requirements or such? I am a releatively new Note owner - just a few days, and I have rooted, flashed a nice ROM, and ordered an awesome leather cover (NOT the cheesy flip cover) and I went looking for a proximity sensor based "cover detection app" - this sounds good, nice options to fine tune, and the dev sounds really into making this work well. Sounds like a winner. I will grab this now, but will not have my cover till Monday. It is NOT black, LOL, so I will test and report how well it works soon after i get my cover. I also got the Samsung branded car mount (I am going broke getting these, for my HTC phones, then GSII, then GSII Skyrocket (slightly larger) and now Note (LOTS LARGER, LOL!) Oh, so why am I telling you about my car dock? Because it's awesome, LOL!!! Nah, just kidding, (but it IS awesome) - I am wondering if being in a darkened car, like at night might trip the proximity sensors threshold for available light and kill the screen. Anyway, if you don't know that's okay. If it does trip the sensor, I will let you know.
Thanks again for a quality app, with no ads, and free. Always a pleasure - gonna put a price on it when it's perfect? If so remember your testers, hehe.
awsome app, nice job !:good:
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Sorry, was just shocked when I actually saw the posting dates/time, I always assume apps have been around and had the bugs worked out, but I see this is newly born! So, for an i717 Note (AT&T Branded) this should essentially work the same, right? I mean there are no processor specific requirements or such? I am a releatively new Note owner - just a few days, and I have rooted, flashed a nice ROM, and ordered an awesome leather cover (NOT the cheesy flip cover) and I went looking for a proximity sensor based "cover detection app" - this sounds good, nice options to fine tune, and the dev sounds really into making this work well. Sounds like a winner. I will grab this now, but will not have my cover till Monday. It is NOT black, LOL, so I will test and report how well it works soon after i get my cover. I also got the Samsung branded car mount (I am going broke getting these, for my HTC phones, then GSII, then GSII Skyrocket (slightly larger) and now Note (LOTS LARGER, LOL!) Oh, so why am I telling you about my car dock? Because it's awesome, LOL!!! Nah, just kidding, (but it IS awesome) - I am wondering if being in a darkened car, like at night might trip the proximity sensors threshold for available light and kill the screen. Anyway, if you don't know that's okay. If it does trip the sensor, I will let you know.
Thanks again for a quality app, with no ads, and free. Always a pleasure - gonna put a price on it when it's perfect? If so remember your testers, hehe.
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lol Well let's get one thing out the way. This app is and will be free (and ad-free) forever. So don't worry about that. Who knows, maybe a long way into the future I might release a paid app to earn a little cash but I don't plan on doing so anytime soon, and surely not to this app.
As for compatibility, as long as your phone has a proximity sensor the app should work (though I'm working out some problems on the smaller phones) so yes, it should work on your phone, no problem. Just hope it works out with your cover though. My cover is sort of a really dark deep brown and it doesn't work at times so I tend not to use that one. I do alot of coding and testing at night btw, and it doesn't just trigger the proximity sensor, so I strongly doubt a darkened car would trigger it.
Good luck with your Note btw. I really think you made the right choice. I've had mine for a year now. I'm just in college so I can't buy Note 2 or I would have. The way Samsung talks about Note 2 though makes me believe I'll have the chance to grab a Note 3 sometime in the future. =)
YES! FINALLY! Fix for all Gingerbread devices coming soon. Should be up within a day or two after some testing. Then I'll work on widgets and optimization and other stuff after I'm done with exams.
i installed this app. but when i close the flip cover, it just locks the screen . opening the cover does nothing
it doesn't properly works
I don't know why, but when I put my finger on sensor it works, with my black cover don't
nokiamodeln91 said:
i installed this app. but when i close the flip cover, it just locks the screen . opening the cover does nothing
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Could you please give me a little more information? Just basic stuff like the device model and Android version and whatever else you think is important, and I'll look into the issue.
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I don't know why, but when I put my finger on sensor it works, with my black cover don't
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Yes, unfortunately this isn't a problem with the application. Proximity sensors don't work well on darker colors. That's why it might work with your finger and maybe in your pocket but not with a black cover. Sorry, this is a problem with hardware, not with the app, so I can't fix that. Only thing I can tell you is that you're not alone. Pretty much all proximity sensors have trouble with black, not just yours.
I got my OP7 Pro today. Double tap to wake with screen off doesn't seem to work. Anyone know what the secret is? What am I missing?
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I got my OP7 Pro today. Double tap to wake with screen off doesn't seem to work. Anyone know what the secret is? What am I missing?
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You have to turn it on in display settings under ambient display. It's turned off by default, or at least mine was as well as pickup to show.
None of my screen off gestures are working...
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You have to turn it on in display settings under ambient display. It's turned off by default, or at least mine was as well as pickup to show.
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I think he means the feature is broken. It's not working for a bunch of us after the day-one update. It works when it wants to. OnePlus has done nothing to fix this and I'm just about ready to get my money back. Just because it's working fine for you doesn't mean we're doing something wrong.
Yeah, lock screen gestures and single/double tap don't work on the latest update, but I believe they're working on fixing it, going through repro steps right now according to their bug page. I'm sure it'll get fixed soon, and it's not a make or break issue to me by any means.
What version are you guys on?
I'm on oxygen 9.5.5 T-mobile gm1915 not having any issues.
I came here to find this out. It's works randomly.
I don't know what I did, but it is working now. I have rebooted twice and it has persisted so +1 on the issue being random. I more wanted to know if others were experiencing the same behavior. Thanks for the replies!
Having tested this, It works randomly during low light situations, and all the time in normal/extreme light situations, such as outside in the sun or in a bright room.
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Having tested this, It works randomly during low light situations, and all the time in normal/extreme light situations, such as outside in the sun or in a bright room.
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Yup. This is my issue.
So my double tap to wake completely stopped working. Single tap doesn't work at all either. Not happy at all right now. Completely stopped about a half hour ago. Reboots fix nothing.
Got my phone yesterday and rooted 10 min after opening it and took update to 9.5.3. no issues at work double or single tap to wake. Used it all night setting it up and playing with it. Lit room or dark. It's been pretty consistent so far. There is an occasional time I have to tap a second time but still work on the 2nd try.
Not sure why it's random like that. Only thing I can think of is after the update... Did any of you do a factory reset? Maybe some reminant install files are causing some issues
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Got my phone yesterday and rooted 10 min after opening it and took update to 9.5.3. no issues at work double or single tap to wake. Used it all night setting it up and playing with it. Lit room or dark. It's been pretty consistent so far. There is an occasional time I have to tap a second time but still work on the 2nd try.
Not sure why it's random like that. Only thing I can think of is after the update... Did any of you do a factory reset? Maybe some reminant install files are causing some issues
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I must be blind but how do you unlock the bootloader and root this phone? Thx
equlizer said:
I must be blind but how do you unlock the bootloader and root this phone? Thx
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In developer options you have to turn on oem unlocking and USB defining. Have ADB and fastboot SDK installed on PC. Then while in the bootloader type... Fastboot oem unlock.
To root you need Magisk. Follow this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/guide-root-oneplus-7-pro-patched-boot-t3931205
The people here saying that it has to do with light are right. I have tested this myself. Even in fairly lit rooms, if the light isn't shining directly on the ambient light sensor, Ambient Display, double-tap-to-wake, and lift-to-wake are all completely disabled. If you shine a flashlight on the light sensor, they suddenly become available. This means that if you aren't using the phone in broad daylight or VERY well lit rooms, you have to hit the power button. Aside from the inconsistency of functionality that creates, I haven't used a power button to wake my phone in 3 years. I certainly hope they plan to fix this soon, as I'm of a mind to return the phone right now. This makes it very annoying to use on a daily basis for me. I keep my house fairly dark at night when I'm watching TV.
For some reason, OnePlus has it using the ambient light sensor rather than the proximity sensor and/or gyroscope for these features. This is not how it should work.
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The people here saying that it has to do with light are right. I have tested this myself. Even in fairly lit rooms, if the light isn't shining directly on the ambient light sensor, Ambient Display, double-tap-to-wake, and lift-to-wake are all completely disabled. If you shine a flashlight on the light sensor, they suddenly become available. This means that if you aren't using the phone in broad daylight or VERY well lit rooms, you have to hit the power button. Aside from the inconsistency of functionality that creates, I haven't used a power button to wake my phone in 3 years. I certainly hope they plan to fix this soon, as I'm of a mind to return the phone right now. This makes it very annoying to use on a daily basis for me. I keep my house fairly dark at night when I'm watching TV.
For some reason, OnePlus has it using the ambient light sensor rather than the proximity sensor and/or gyroscope for these features. This is not how it should work.
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But it seems it's different from device to device ? Double tap to wake, the lift feature and the only one tap to activate ambient light works in all light conditions for me.
Just a thought....is there an option to avoid accidental touches when in a pocket? This might explain why it works in well lit rooms and not in dark rooms.
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The people here saying that it has to do with light are right. I have tested this myself. Even in fairly lit rooms, if the light isn't shining directly on the ambient light sensor, Ambient Display, double-tap-to-wake, and lift-to-wake are all completely disabled. If you shine a flashlight on the light sensor, they suddenly become available. This means that if you aren't using the phone in broad daylight or VERY well lit rooms, you have to hit the power button. Aside from the inconsistency of functionality that creates, I haven't used a power button to wake my phone in 3 years. I certainly hope they plan to fix this soon, as I'm of a mind to return the phone right now. This makes it very annoying to use on a daily basis for me. I keep my house fairly dark at night when I'm watching TV.
For some reason, OnePlus has it using the ambient light sensor rather than the proximity sensor and/or gyroscope for these features. This is not how it should work.
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Yes! That reproduces the issue exactly for me. I am sure this is not the only one, but this thread on OnePlus support forums reports the issue.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oneplus-7-pro-ambient-display-not-working.1034009/
You can see users reporting the problems inconsistency, and OnePlus seems to acknowledge the problem and they are "looking into it". Please go add your feedback as I am sure the more people that complain, the higher priority the bug will become.
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But it seems it's different from device to device ? Double tap to wake, the lift feature and the only one tap to activate ambient light works in all light conditions for me.
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This is where the inconsistency of the issue occurs... I am in my office which is lit the same way each day since I got the device (low light). The off screen gestures magically started working about 6 hours after I got the phone and were working up until this morning. Put the device close to a light source while the screen is dark, and you will see it wake up with no interaction with the screen. Screen off gestures work while in that lighting. I forced closed, cleared storage/cache of the Ambient display service and my phone now works in all lighting. It is almost as if the sensor becomes stuck in 'pocket mode' or something like that.
I noticed some funny:
Which cases are you using?
I was with the one in the box until now and everything worked fine (ambient display, double tap to wake, one tap to show fingerprint, wake when lifting up the phone,...). I'm with the Nylon case since a few minutes and since then the ambient display won't work anymore.
Maybe there's something related?
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This is where the inconsistency of the issue occurs... I am in my office which is lit the same way each day since I got the device (low light). The off screen gestures magically started working about 6 hours after I got the phone and were working up until this morning. Put the device close to a light source while the screen is dark, and you will see it wake up with no interaction with the screen. Screen off gestures work while in that lighting. I forced closed, cleared storage/cache of the Ambient display service and my phone now works in all lighting. It is almost as if the sensor becomes stuck in 'pocket mode' or something like that.
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Yes, you're totally right! I tested it! When light is shining on the display, my tap gestures will work again. I forced closed and cleared storage of ambient display but unfortunately it doesn't change my current situation, at the moment it won't work... ?
I can confirm this as well. In dark or even dim rooms, I must use the power button to turn the screen on, in well lit environments, I can use tap to wake. Hopefully this can be fixed in an upcoming update.
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