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:!: Sorry for the shameless attempt to get you here with a dreamy subject but it's relevant to the topic - honestly. :!:
I'm after a PDAPhone with built in everything. But looks so far like I'm going to have to compromise and get an external GPS receiver, however was just hoping someone might have a little gem that I couldn't find anywhere else in the forums.
I have owned and loved the O2 XDA range ever since my first XDA years ago and have since lugged around an XDAII. I damaged my II recently and have a nice cheque for £550 burning a hole in my pocket courtesy of the insurance company. This means that for the first time ever I don't need to go to a subsidised model. My initial thought was that I'd stump up a few extra quid and get a JamJar :lol: from expansys but now I'm a bit more mature I decided to check out the options first.
So far I've found (Ignoring Naming Variations):
Prices quoted are from expansys - they could be cheaper elsewhere. Pls let me know if you find any (UK Only though)
:arrow: iPAQ hw6515 - Looks a bit crap, small screen and no wi-fi listed but DOES have GPS & 1.3Mp Cam - Anyone know of any Square Aware issues with programs?
:idea: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=120563
:idea: £439.95
:arrow: i-mate JAM - Small and sexy but no Wi-Fi and no GPS but would stop people asking if I've got a brick taped to my head. + 1.3Mp, COuld afford external GPS with this one.
:idea: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=I-MATE_JAM
:idea: £359.95
:arrow:Qtek 9090- Has everything But GPS but would leave enough money for a BT GPS - No camera spec but I think it's 0.3Mp like the XDAIIs - Could be upgraded to WM5, My Mate has one and the Thumb Keyboard is easy to use whilst walking - If I use my head not my geekometer this is my favourite.
:idea: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=QTEK_9090
:idea: £414.95
:arrow: i-mate JASJAR - Dogs balls but still no GPS and not much more than the 9090 + v Expensive & Getting Bigger - 1.3Mp Cam I think. (I have no 3G service anywhere near me so that's not a bonus) I really like the 3.5mm Jack - Overall a severe number of geek points! NO CRADLE Still needs GPS Seperate, not sure how useable while walking the keyboard will be. I really want one.
:idea: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119353
:idea: £669.95
:arrow: i-mate K-JAM - WiFi, BT etc, Smaller and lighter than Universal, WM5, 1.3Mp. I like the keyboard. Maybe my new best choice. JUST leaves enough money to think about an external GPS. Thanks JamiJam
:idea: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125518
:idea: £504.95
My criteria to consider are as follows, argue with them and persuade me otherwise with reasons if you so wish:
Phone + PDA Essential (Tri Band+)
Camera - Prefer 1+Mp
BT - Must Have
Wi-Fi - Optional but Preferred a lot
3G - Not required
Keyboard - Like to Have (It's awkward using handwriting when travelling)
GPS - Very Nice to Have I Drive a lot and would like to use TT in the future.
OS - Not Bothered, these can be changed
I have 1 Month to decide before I burst and spray money all over the place so I'd really appreciate any comments you might have.
Don't go off on any obscure tangents though please, post them in a new topic and link to it if you wish.
Wizard...
(aka K-Jam, aka Qtek 9100)
Not sure when it will be out but Orange are going to release the Wizard and call it the SPV M600. If you can wait then you'll have it subsidised. :wink:
hmmmmm
Ok, so far the Wizard is my favourite now. I'd completely forgotten about that. What's the keyboard like though? I'm not too fussed about the size (the one on the XDA III is smaller and still useable)? It's more the key action I'm bothered about.
Does it have those rubbish 'rubbery' 'spectrum' style keys? It looks like it does.
I'm still yearning for a Universal cos none of my mates will have one but my head is still saying I don't need it and one of the others will do everything I want.
AFAIK HTC has some kind of arrangement with compaq - HTC will not make a phone with GPS as it competes with a model HTC makes for compaq that does have GPS or something like that (the hw6515 maybe ?)
I have a Blue Angel (O2 XDA IIs) and it does all of this.
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=I-MATE_III
WM5 now available and working fine on it.
It has a keyboard too, it's those blister things (more like a ZX81 than a spectrum) but it is useable, although the keyboard layout is a bit ****e.
What with the newer models coming out you should be able to pick one up cheapish.
I run mine with a Globalsat Bt-338 Bluetooth GPS and Tomtom 5
oh, and FYI, this PDA holder from halfords holds the BA perfectly and can be mounted to your dash. It obscures no ports.
(The pic is upside down BTW)
http://www.halfords.com/opd_product_details.asp?id=16600&type=0&cat=397
The keyboard on the wizard is excellent, in my humble opinion!
It also snaps in and out in a way that makes you feel it won't break down easily.
Finally, it automatically turns the phone's display into landscape mode, which is very handy.
Wizard or BA
I have to say I'm still impressed with the Wizard. Just made a scale model out of card (how sad is that) and it's tiny!
I like the BA but if the keyboard doesn't let the Wizard down I think it'll be my PDA of choice. The one thing I really didn't like about the Jam was its lack of Wi-Fi and that's solved in the K-Jam.
I assume the screen's readable, I like to think that I'll have good eyesight for a couple of years yet so I don't think the size will be an issue.
iPaq HW6515
I have tried without success to get details of the built-in GPS. The one authoritative source to whom I spoke was scathing about its performance. So whatever you do choose, I do not recommend the iPaq.
On a separate note I saw my first Jasjar close up today. It is lighter than you might think, but heavier than is reasonable for prolonged use as a phone. A bluetooth earpiece was being used that included a display for caller ID. As a data device it is pretty impressive.
I too run a GlobalSat BT-338 GPS, in my case with Mapopolis.
if you are going GPS, make sure it is SIRFstar III chipset (the current latest-and-greatest), especially if you live in a city as they are really good at "urban canyon" reception.
I have seen new BT-338s on ebay for £65 "buy it now" recently
plus another thing to think about...
a seperate BT GPS unit has various advantages:
1) Battery
It won't drain your PPC battery when operating, except the charge needed to communicate via BT.
2) Upgrading
If a new improved GPS unit comes out and you have an onboard GPS unit, you are carrying useless baggage and can't sell the old one.
Also bear in mind there will likely be new features added to GPS units.
one example: digital compass. At the moment, if you stand still and rotate, a GPS unit has no clue which way you are facing until you move. A GPS does already transmit heading AFAIK - it works out which way you are facing by assiming you are looking in the direction of travel. Integration of a digital compass therefore would probably require no changes to the protocol. This does exist ( see http://www.xemics.com/internet/solutions/compass.jsp?productID=108 )
3) Switching.
BT GPS units work on laptopss too you know
4) Safety. I use my GPS for a sport called mountain boarding. Same kinda deal as downhill mountain biking, I trace a route I have done using GPS software. I ride with my XDA in a reinforced case with foam in, but find the GPS reception suffers, so I keep the BT GPS unit in my bag and the XDA in the case.
Seeing as the XDA is MUCH more valuable than the GPS this makes sense.
5) Reception versus viewing position.
Sometimes the position with best reception is not the same as the position you can see the screen of your PPC best.
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Good point.
Ok, more questions on the K-Jam
Camera: Says 1.3/2 Is this 1.3 with software to 'frig' it to 2?
Keyboard: Is the expansys keyboard silver ( http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125518 ) or black ( http://www.expansys.com/zoompic.asp?type=item&code=125518 )
Silver ones look plastic whereas black ones look rubbery. Which have you got JamiJam? Is it from Expansys?
Processor: 200Mhz? Is that right? Seems quite a drop. Do you have any problems with media playback? I remember my XDA I used to have a problem playing big avi files.
Ta Very Much
Camera is 1.3MP, and it is ****.
Yes, it's better than the Magician, but it's still pretty bad. I wouldn't buy the Wizard hoping to use the camera for anything useful. In my opinion this is the #1 point on which HTC is lacking. They've worked on everything else, now they need to start putting decent cameras in these devices.
I have the silver keyboard and I bought my Wizard in a store. I believe that if you order from expansys you'll get a silver one.
Processor is 200MHz (different CPU architecture) but it seems to be on par with the Magician in practice, maybe 10% slower. So yes, you should be able to watch full screen movies, once you find a bit-rate/resolution/format that works for you. Not sure which XDA you had, but I would expect similar ballpark performance.
Hope this helps.
Ta
The 'performance lacking' XDA was the original XDA I and I'll take your word for it that performance is ok. I don't use it for anything too hot and my XDA II never had a problem with films.
To be honest, every camera phone I've had from the XDA Range was ****ty quality (Very grainy) but I spend a fair bit of time on site collecting info on wagons and stuff for my job and it's always handy to be able to snap a quick video or pic of something. The only reason I want a higher res is so that when some tit with a Sony Ericson goes on about his 2Mp camera I don't loose too many 'top trumps' points. I never print the pics and my main contract doesn't support GPRS so I don't often send MMS. You'd be surprised how easily you can still get by with just plain old WAP.
Good news on the silver buttons. I prefer them. Has anyone bought one from Expansys who can verify?
Sweetness & Joy
Just thought I'd post my decision for those of you who like seing things through to a conclusion.
After much ponderation and constructing various cardboard models I have decided on the HTC Wizard, purchased from expansys (i-Mate K-Jam). There's a delay on delivery at the moment (3 Days!!!! I can't wait) but once it arrives I'll post back with my oppinions.
I've also heard that my mate is buying the JasJar so I'll be able to make a comparison and post it back.
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Just been looking at some larger photos of the buttons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/keyboard-flash.jpg
I take back my spectrum comments, they look pretty good.
Hurrah!
Ok! I've got my Wizard at last. I ended up buying the Qtek 9100 rather than the K-Jam. Looks like I'll miss out on Club i-Mate. :-(
Thought I'd post my views on the phone here just to give closure to anyone reading this thread.
The screen is very sharp. Everything obviously is smaller because the pixels are closer together but the overall effect is a very good screen. The guy in our office with really bad eyesight liked it and he's normally a miserable git when it comes to gadgets.
I take back my comments about the keyboard, it looks fantastic, the action is really great and you can use it to type replies to text messages on the move, which is something I've always struggled with before using the Transcriber. People are also really impressed when the screen rotates thru' to landscape.
I've used it for playing some music and although the speakers built in are tinny as you'd expect, the headphones are really good. I don't know if they'd be the same for the i-Mate but they fit comfortably in my ears and have a very good sound compared to the old XDA & XDA II headphones (Not that that would be hard)!
I miss having a cradle. It was nice to be able to display your phone on your desk while it was charging. Just using a USB cable makes it all feel a bit less sexy as an experience but then you can't have everything I suppose.
The coolest thing I found was the Stylus. It's about 50mm long when it first comes out of the phone. Then you give it a little pull and it extends to... hold on let me get a ruler... 85mm. It's not as comfy to use as the XDA/XDA II styli but since i haven't used it for writing much it doesn't matter. The keyboard is so easy to pull out and use that I've only really used the stylus to point at stuff so that my fingers don't get the screen dirty. The softkeys in WM 2005 also mean that you rarely need to touch the screen.
It's a bit chunkier than I expected but still not big. It's only marginally bigger than my girlfriends Nokia 6230 and compared to an older XDA model it feels like it's tiny!
Voice recognition button on the side works really well so far. I've got about 10 contacts programmed in and it seems to be picking them up ok, even in the car.
Overall, i'm yet to find much of a fault with it. I'll try to get some piccies of bits posted sometime next week.
Feel free to ask any questions.
JASJAR II
When the damn thing releases.....of course
I really wouldnt auction my spare kidney and buy it, and then suffer with a RAM deficit! My xda 2 currently running on wm5, has 128megs ram and 32megs rom....compared to 43megs ram & rom of jasjar........one word.......RIDICULOUS!
i cant believe seeing a 7MB RAM free on a device, and i dont ever want to see it! HTC/ IMATE/ Whoever claim they put in less RAM for extended battery life....bucket of crap! I really dont care for those couple extra hours that i'd probably get, and i dont mind carrying a spare battery or a charger wherever i go....
Its a handicap which is BIG! Besides this, the Jasjar is divinely irresistable, and i cant stop oggling at it :shock:
So, i guess i'll wait for a JJ II to come out with same form factor, and somemore ram which would make the device practical....
HTC do you hear me??????
San
weeel
:shock:
RAM isn't everything. I have been using the device for a day now (Non-stop), often running WMP10, Outlook, PIE etc also playing Tomb Raider. I haven't noticed any diference between this and my XDA II which had I think 64Mb and a 400 odd MHz processor. The odd app is a trifle slow to load up but nothing more major than that.
If the battery life sacrifice is true, then it's not for this little puppy. All this usage (with wi-fi on but not actually using a wi-fi network) and the battery didn't drop below 60% yesterday (Using lightly whilst at work and heavily in the evening. I even synced using bluetooth).
Memory has crept down to 1Mb program mem free at times but I assume windows is just doing its thing because this comes back up after a while and I don't notice any drop in performance.
Re: Hurrah!
eayuwna said:
I miss having a cradle. It was nice to be able to display your phone on your desk while it was charging. Just using a USB cable makes it all feel a bit less sexy as an experience but then you can't have everything I suppose.
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This site: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/5735.htm claims that this desktop charger/cradle is compatible with the K-Jam so if that's true then it should be OK for your QTek. 8)
Beside the older models, it there such thing as a PDA Phone with no Camera?
I know ATT sells cameraless versions of their ppc phone's on their business site. Same price as the ones with cameras, go figure.
I dare to push this question up, since I also need a cameraless (not "disabled", physically absent) phone... any updates which ones are available? Seems like AT&T doesn't put every HTC phone as a cameraless version out anymore... (though I like the standby times on my treo 680 right now )
why do you need camera less? I know you can get the kaiser with out a camera. or you could get an mc35 with out a camera.
the only pda i come across without camera are from eten & limited
seriously so far only samsung pda have a decent camera lens, the rest of the brand's camera lens are not even worth the $ for it if they were to sell in separate parts
hope oem will work with some camera brands to give as a powerful pda with wonderful camera as compact cameras are so slim nowadays.
kaiser is quite old, WM5 aera... I already use an old PDA-Phone (Treo 680) and have a cingular 8500 around that I only use as navigation system in the car, because CPU, memory and the OS weren't good enough back then, as well as the treo 750 that sleeps in some drawer And the reason is simply the same as for millions other ppl worldwide: security. no camera allowed.
Blue Print:
Processor:
Qualcomm® MSM 7200, 400MHz
Operating System:
Windows Mobile® 6 Professional
ROM: 256MB
RAM: 128MB SDRAM
Dimension:
112 mm (L) X 59 mm (W) X 19 mm (T)
Display:
2.8 inch, 240 X 320 QVGA TFT-LCD display with adjustable angle and backlight
Network:
HSDPA/UMTS: Tri-band 850, 1900, 2100 MHz
HSDPA: Up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6Mbps for download
UMTS: Up to 384kbps for upload and download
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
Device Control:
Finger scrolling and panning
Connectivity
Bluetooth® 2.0
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g
HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB and audio jack in one)
GPS antenna connector
Camera Main camera: 3 megapixel CMOS color camera with auto focus
Second camera: VGA CMOS color camera
Audio Built-in microphone and speaker
Battery 1,350 mAh rechargeable Li-polymer battery
Standby time:
Up to 350 hours for UMTS
Up to 365 hours for GSM Talk time:
Talk time:
Up to 264 minutes for UMTS
Up to 420 minutes for GSM
Up to 120 minutes for video call
Expansion Slot microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
AC Adapter Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC, 50/60Hz
I got my HTC TyTN II two weeks back. It was a gift from my close friend. You gotta be lucky to have a friend like this. It was in fact a surprise me. He got the Demon looking black box to office and he gave that to me all of a sudden. It was wrapped in poly ethene cover. I could find no clues of what he is giving. Finally the suspense broke when I saw the black box with the HTC logo and then I thought that "Boy that would be a Kaiser". We've been discussing about Kaiser for quite sometime and its salient features.
It was just a WOW feeling and words couldn't explain how I felt. It was a sexiest piece of a phone. The glossy finish to the front and the mat finish to the back was a deadly combination of look and feel. Especially the answering keys were glimmering with the silver finish. At the outset the look and feel of the phone was breath taking. The color combinations took its major contribution. Thanks to HTC's designers to put a sexiest piece of innovative technology on earth.
I had a HTC Prophet before. I got the same level of excitement and happiness as I got a year back when I first held my Prophet, this time in fact the excitement was a bit more because of the sliding key board with the "Wind Chime" sound which was a hair rising experience. For a long time I was just gazing at the marvellous piece without doing anything on the phone. One was due to the surprise which is quite obvious and secondly due to the look and feel and the features of the wonderful innovation.
I was astonished looking at the size of the mobile, I placed both Prophet and TyTN II side by side and I was comparing the thickness of the phone, not much of a difference could I find having the sliding key board in my in TyTN II where as that was not there in Prophet. To have a keyboard to that size was a remarkable achievement on the size reduction to the device. It is so compact. The sliding key board has a sensor to it so that it based on the light available in the ambience the back light for the key board is active, which is a good feature to save battery power. The key board key is in tact that being a non key board user for the past one year I was able to type in easily without much of huzzles. The only point which keeps worrying me is that the soft keys are not bound properly, it is loosely packed to the base, I'm scared whether that would wear off on the long run . I checked with the dealer and he told that all pieces have the same problem. Not sure whether any body else has the similar problem. The tilt feature till 40 degrees vertically is a innovative feature and next time around you don't have to peep into the mobile, all you have to place the device on your desk, slide the key board and tilt the screen to your ease and see what's there on the mobile screen. This feature gives you a comfortable feature of watching a movie placing the device on your table and you dont have to worry about a cradle for your device isn't it just cool . Plug in the ear phones, tilt the screen and watch your favorite movie on your device at your table.
There were days I use to worry about dumping softwares into the Prophet but time isn't the same , now I got the TyTN II where I don't even have to worry about the memory having 256 MB Internal Flash, 128 MB RAM. Having installed close around 15 different softwares it is just stable and it does not break down. In the past two weeks to my rememberance I would have done a soft reset once or twice. Couldn't believe that I have a stable windows based mobile device at hand. I was a bit uncomfortable with the placement of stylus, got used to looking at stylus in the top right corner for an year whereas I got to look to the right bottom of the device. The SIM card deck is just been brought outside the battery casing and placed beneath the sliding screen in a way is good that you don't have to open the battery casing often, if there's going to be any problem with SIM card. To the other side, looking at the security of SIM card, you just have to unlock the SIM case and take the SIM out, it is as easy as that.
The reception of radio is fine, comparing my previous device I just feel that the sound is bit enriched. Moreover the volume control is not just a sliding button to the side of your device instead it is a wheel which gives much more in ease of operation. It also acts like a scroll wheel for the other applications and you need not take out the stylus and scroll for what you are searching for. By pressing the scroll wheel, the item which is selected gets opened. Indirectly the probability of you pulling out the stylus gets minimised with TyTN II.
Having an on board GPS built in, it proves the real power of it. Say bye bye to external GPS receiver to your device. It is in deed is in built in the device, just rocks. The reason I say that it is powerful is that, I have installed VITO Navigator II and my friend had installed the same in his Dopod U1000. In Dopod U1000 we were doing all sort of funny actions to trace satellites , we were holding the U1000 just right above our heads so that device could plot some satellites and the maximum we could find is only 4 and comparing that, TyTN II having the in built GPS could easily trace 9-12 satellites. I couldn't probably enjoy the practical features of GPS being in Chennai - India and I hope in the coming days it would be really useful.
The On/Off button in the device, is placed to the surface of the side. It would have been better if the button would have been a bit projected so that user need not search for the button and every time I have to Switch On/Switch Off the device it is a bit difficult to perform the operation as it is to the same surface level of the casing. Moreover in the night it is really difficult in the dark to Swith On/Switch Off the device, First is to plot where the button is and secondly to press it correctly. Most of the time I land up pressing the casing of the device thinking that the button is there. It would have been really useful if there could be a back light option for the On/Off button.
A little bit of disappointment towards the battery life. My talk time for a day would be normally an hour on an average and this is spanned across the day (not a continuous talk time) and I perform basic operations on the device and normally I don't watch movies and listen to music. The battery last for only 1.5 days max, where as for the same operations Prophet use to last for two full days and at times even a bit longer.
The touch response is really awesome and it is just that smooth that you don't have to strain with the stylus for any operations.
The color reproduction in this phone is amazing. It really has the vibrant colors in it. I've kept only half the brightness but still it is producing good results. It would be have still better if TyTN II is equiped with a VGA Screen instead of QVGA screen. But with the same Battery (1350mAh), QVGA is the optimum screen resolution.
The 3 MP camera has just proven its caliber. The picture quality is really good and even the videos. The videos taken are just smooth and the transition is just a remarkable break through. The enhanced sound quality makes you feel good to listen to more and good songs and I have installed Pocket Player and having the equalizer set, I could really feel the clarity of sound coming from the speaker. Listening to the same music with the same equalizer setup in Prophet is just out of question. I hope it is just a boom for the music lovers to listen to music in their PPC. The mat finish to the base of the mobile is also a worrying factor, I'm a bit sceptical whether the surface could easily get scratches due to mobile handling and which in turn could spoil the look of the fone.
Plus:
Screen tilt till 40 degrees.
Slide Keyboard.
On board GPS.
Enhanced Memory capacities.
The Micro SD card has a cover to it, which prevents dust getting into the device.
Buttons made compact and in correct placements.
Good sound clarity.
Good pictures off the 3MP camera.
Usage of stylus is minimized having the scroll wheel.
It’s a truly global device. It will work anywhere in the world.
Minus:
Mat finish for the base of the device prone to get scratches very easily, which spoils the look of the device.
Soft keys on the sliding key board is not bound properly to the board.
On/Off button takes an extra care to perform the operation.
SIM card casing provided beneath the sliding screen seems to be a bit insecure considering the security aspect.
No VGA Screen
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Pictures of TyTn II
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Good One
Good Review Mate !
nice one mate..keep it up
Helmi's ROM work great and Destinator 6 as well
Hey there fellow Indian......
hey,nice review there.....i felt the emotion
Iv been lookin to buy the kaiser for some time now....just hav a few questions bout its use in india....
1) Wut maps r u using for GPS navigation?....r there ne shortcomings?
2) How r the headphones in the bundle?
3) Is HTC india supporting the TYTN II ?
Mera Bharat Mahan
Great review bro.. man, feel like buying kaiser.. btw, what about that 40 degrees tilt thing, is it firm enough?
ncex said:
Great review bro.. man, feel like buying kaiser.. btw, what about that 40 degrees tilt thing, is it firm enough?
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Yes its firm
I bought mine from Singapore and am using it in Bangalore, India. The phone came with Mapking software pre-installed with one free map. That was cool. THe portion of the phone that scratches quite easily is the camera cover on the battery door. My phones a month old with several scratches on it already and I baby my phone quite a bit(No using a screen protector on a part of it). Installed a screen protector(first thing I always do with my touch screen phones.)
HTC India does not support the TyTyn2 since it has'nt been laucnhed here. If you want to buy it you'd need to get it on the grey market or import it yourself.
Its an amazing phone. prefer it to anything else available on the market at the moment. It being my first Windows based phone I really doubt I'd use anything else again(coming from EZX-Linux and UIQ previous to that).
Regards,
Akshay
Hey mines 1st Windows phone & never going back to sybian again
Hey tell me do u guys Use GPS in india is it maped yet ?
How much is it in grey market ?
Im a Indian in US, so was wondering how it worked there
I have aTilt got it for $299 with contract, worth it
aksd said:
I bought mine from Singapore and am using it in Bangalore, India. The phone came with Mapking software pre-installed with one free map. That was cool. THe portion of the phone that scratches quite easily is the camera cover on the battery door. My phones a month old with several scratches on it already and I baby my phone quite a bit(No using a screen protector on a part of it). Installed a screen protector(first thing I always do with my touch screen phones.)
HTC India does not support the TyTyn2 since it has'nt been laucnhed here. If you want to buy it you'd need to get it on the grey market or import it yourself.
Its an amazing phone. prefer it to anything else available on the market at the moment. It being my first Windows based phone I really doubt I'd use anything else again(coming from EZX-Linux and UIQ previous to that).
Regards,
Akshay
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@vader
All the mahor cities are mapped reasonably well. When I was using the Motorola E6, Ihad a hloux GPS system to go with it, ran MGMaps with offline maps and downloaded GMaps of the entire South INdia so it worked almost everywhere, highway mappings are of the major roads only, while detailed maps of only the big citites are available. THe Bangalore map provided by MapKing is reasoably ok, but you cant use the route fix since the one-ways etc. keep changing week after week. But to know your position its more than sufficent.
I have no idea how much its in the grey market, but in Singapore I paid 750USD for it. Its the TyTyn2 and not the Tilt. I suppose if it is avialable in the grey market should be around 1000USD.
Hope this answers most of your questions
God bless ya man
Yes you did
The Tilt is same as Tytn II just some less software
& no front cam, cos in USA Service providers dont support it
aksd said:
@vader
All the mahor cities are mapped reasonably well. When I was using the Motorola E6, Ihad a hloux GPS system to go with it, ran MGMaps with offline maps and downloaded GMaps of the entire South INdia so it worked almost everywhere, highway mappings are of the major roads only, while detailed maps of only the big citites are available. THe Bangalore map provided by MapKing is reasoably ok, but you cant use the route fix since the one-ways etc. keep changing week after week. But to know your position its more than sufficent.
I have no idea how much its in the grey market, but in Singapore I paid 750USD for it. Its the TyTyn2 and not the Tilt. I suppose if it is avialable in the grey market should be around 1000USD.
Hope this answers most of your questions
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I know , but to hear you guys out there payed 300$ for something I paid 750 makes my stomach burn , therefore I stress on the difference, I have a front cam....you dont naaaah naaah na na naaah .
But seriously its one heck of a phone, if it had the USB host function as well as TV out and an FM Radio(although I dont use any of those function, well mayeb the USB host one I'd likke to use), it would have made it a godsend
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I know , but to hear you guys out there payed 300$ for something I paid 750 makes my stomach burn , therefore I stress on the difference, I have a front cam....you dont naaaah naaah na na naaah
But seriously its one heck of a phone, if it had the USB host function as well as TV out and an FM Radio(although I dont use any of those function, well mayeb the USB host one I'd likke to use it would have made it a godsend
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I think Tv out is all it cant do
U can search the fourms should find something on USB host function
as for an FM Radio
here it comes with a 3 day Trial Xm radio
& below is a Link to Hack it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309844&highlight=mobi+tv
Hope it helps
Reload Kaiser brush it up
And brush it with Kaiser tools on this link
http://www.4shared.com/dir/8165638/7d4b1590/Kaiser_cabs-Reload.html
You guys gotta check the destinator 7 thingy from Satnav, it rocks on my TYTN 2 and is way better than the mapking that came along with the phone, GPS fix within a minute and comes along with a one india integrated map...really good directions and stuff
I don't work work for Satnav...I work for a company that gives me access to xda at work
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You guys gotta check the destinator 7 thingy from Satnav, it rocks on my TYTN 2 and is way better than the mapking that came along with the phone, GPS fix within a minute and comes along with a one india integrated map...really good directions and stuff
I don't work work for Satnav...I work for a company that gives me access to xda at work
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I was using destinator before I flashed with the newer roms. Destinator seems to crash all the time on my Tytn II. It goes down and takes the task bar with it. Haven't been able to figure out what causes this... but loved it though.
Mapmyindia is also quite good, but stuck with landscape mode in that.
My brother has a TyTn II and all i can say (compared to my eten g500+..............................) is that this pda deserves some serious respect, even by the newest HTC Touch Pro.
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I was using destinator before I flashed with the newer roms. Destinator seems to crash all the time on my Tytn II. It goes down and takes the task bar with it. Haven't been able to figure out what causes this... but loved it though.
Mapmyindia is also quite good, but stuck with landscape mode in that.
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Strange...i dont have any such probs with destinator..
any of you guys check out this funny thing caller "Virtual Caller"??? It's a real life saver when you want to fake a phone call or sms and walk out of a boring meeting
Here's the LINK
After my 4th lost rubber ring from my scroll wheel, O2 have offered to change my Orbit 2 for a different phone.
Initially they offered me a choice of either the Nokia N95, Nokia 6220 Classic, or LG Viewty.
Naturally, I declined and explained I require a Windows Mobile device that is capable of viewing and editing Microsoft Word and Excel Documents, which is HSDPA and GPS enabled, and also takes external memory/SD slot.
To be honest, I'm happy with the Orbit 2, apart from the rubber ring issue.
They came back and offered me a Sony Ericsson Xperia or the XDA Ignito (HTC Touch). The Touch only has internal memory, so not suitable.
I'm not sure about the Sony Ericsson Experia though. Does it have any advantages over the Orbit 2?
My contract is due for renewal in August (8 months), so this could be my opportunity for a
'fresh' handset mid-term to ease the wait.
My recent phone history goes like this - Orbit/Cruise>>M3100/Hermes>>C600>>SPV (original)
As you can see, I like my HTC phones.
Will I regret the change to the Sony Ericsson Experia?
All opinions appreciated!
do you have to give your orbit 2 back?
I would probably go for the XDA Ignito since it has 4gb internal memory and a vga screen, and you can still transfer files via WiFi or Usb connections, since i never take my SDHC card out anyway
If you have 7 month contract you may aswell get a new phone since when your current contact runs out youll get more whne you sell it, so maybe the Touch HD is cheaper in the long run!
and you get a new phone!
Yes, I need to give the Orbit 2 back.
I would go for the Ignito if it hard external memory. Transfering large files takes ages through the cable vie activesync, and I store a lot of info on my 8gb SD card.
When looking at the Ignito/Diamond in a store today, the screen looked alot smaller than the Orbit 2, which put me off, but having cjecked the specs now, the screeens appear to be both 2.8 inch.
Then there's the Xperia....
I'm confused!
lol
yeah there both the same screens, only difference is that one is qvga (320 x 240 orbit) and the other one is vga (640 x 480 ignito)
Are you actually wanting an upgrade that isnt listed?
For exapmle, you could get a replacemnet ( highest value one) then sell it straight away and use that money and a bit extra to maybe get the touchHD or soemthing,
Then when your contract come back around you can just sell that phone and make up what you spent extra getting the touch HD,
All depends on what you want really and how long phones last with you without either breaking or getting bored!!
Personally with me nokias last about 3 months but HTC ones last about 5 years!
Also depends on weather you like to flash roms and such?
The Xperia is a sizeable upgrade and worth a lot more money than the Polaris or Ignito. Furthermore, since the Xperia is an HTC manufactured device, it already has a section here and can run all the HTC specific stuff. In fact if you don't want the Xperia, I'll trade you my Touch Cruise for it as we don't have the rubber ring issue.
You'd be absolutely crazy if you went for the Ignito over the Xperia.
Xperia Pros:
3"in screen
Aluminum casing
Luxury design
30fps VGA recording
WVGA resolution
Ability to play movies w/hardware accelleration
3.5mm audio out
physical keyboard
Xperia Cons:
Less HTC software customizations (but you can install all the Touch HD stuff since they have pretty much the same internals)
Thicker than the Ignito (but thinner than the Touch Pro)
I went into a store and played with both phones, the Touch Diamond/Ignito, and the Xperia.
Sonus, the Xperia looks a real winner on paper, but what I didn't expect was that the Diamond felt better in the hand. I don't know if it's because the Xperia has a slide keyboard, so is essentially two pieces, but the Diamond felt rock solid in the hand in comparison.
However, looking at the re-sale values of the Xperia on ebay, I think I'll do what gbds suggests and sell the Xperia and buy a Touch HD
I've emailed O2 to confirm that they are not going to treat this different model replacement as an upgrade, and once I get confirmation I think I'll ask for the Xperia.
Thanks again!
Managed to get this sorted yet?
Yeah, got the Xperia delivered yesterday.
I've been playing around with it, and desperately need touchflo installed. I guess it's just getting used to a new phone again. I have the Orbit 2 set up so it does what I ask of it with ease, standard HTC home screen with the digital clock, and windows live emails on the fron screen, easy access to all my applications from tabs on the front screen, quick flick of the finger and I'm speed dialing contacts, another flick and I'm in to my photo album.
The high resolution/small icons and text on the Experia is a little off-putting.
Also, the right-hand edge of the stainless steel front bezel is raised slightly and feels very sharp to the touch (i have a sore finger from it) so will be calling them tomorrow.
Signal strength is not as good as my orbit either. Where I was getting HSDPA in my lounge, I'm now hovering between HSDPA and Edge.
The phone does feel very sturdy, and appears to have potential but I still love my Orbit 2
Hi,
Going into a travel for our vacation, and i need help finding a good kit for macro and wide angle lens for note 4. Im really passionate by picture and i dont wanna bring my big DSLR to take few picture. Im scared to get robbed.
I need something that can be ship in canada.
I would like a tripod too and a bluetooth remote to take picture of me and my wife in our holiday.
If someone can point be a good kit, or something that can be ship to canada from amazon ebay or etc, it would be appreciated. please make sure it fit into note 4.
I only see kit for iphone...
Btw, i tried to search in this forum with the word lens and kit, but i didnt get any result unless i did wrong :/
Thanks in advance, i don't check this tread each 5 minutes, so if you can post the kit that could fit for note 4, it would be appreciated.
Much appreciated
Losthenes
You can find them online, you just have to do allot of searching in order to find them. As the majority of lens manufacturers tend to only make stuff for the iPhone.
http://www.amazon.com/including-Telephoto-Universal-Microfiber-Cleaning/dp/B00RBMASLQ
http://www.amazon.com/including-Tele.../dp/B00RBMASLQ
this one doesnt ship to canada
Try ebay. They have some selection
Losthenes said:
Hi,
Going into a travel for our vacation, and i need help finding a good kit for macro and wide angle lens for note 4. Im really passionate by picture and i dont wanna bring my big DSLR to take few picture. Im scared to get robbed.
I need something that can be ship in canada.
I would like a tripod too and a bluetooth remote to take picture of me and my wife in our holiday.
If someone can point be a good kit, or something that can be ship to canada from amazon ebay or etc, it would be appreciated. please make sure it fit into note 4.
I only see kit for iphone...
Btw, i tried to search in this forum with the word lens and kit, but i didnt get any result unless i did wrong :/
Thanks in advance, i don't check this tread each 5 minutes, so if you can post the kit that could fit for note 4, it would be appreciated.
Much appreciated
Losthenes
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Hi ... I am a photographer and have researched lenses for the Note 4. I haven't purchased these yet, but it is my understanding that the best lenses are built by Moment Lens. Here is a link:
http://momentlens.co/
I hope to pickup both their wide angle and tele lenses, but purchases in both my mirrorless and DSLR kits have been taking priority. I like the fact that you can just get a new mount to use your Moment lenses if you get a new smartphone.
I picked up a bluetooth remote off of eBay. If you get a tripod, make sure you get a mount to hold the phone. I use the ShoulderPod S1 mount, but it is probably more than you need. I have a Manfrotto tripod mini tripod, but it may be more than you want. Joby makes a lightweight tripod/mount combo that I have considered for a lighter kit. Good luck.
EDIT: Found the Joby XL, here is a link: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1062045-REG/joby_jb01324_griptight_micro_stand_for.html
I'm become something of a backyard photographer with the local wildlife/plants in my yard and really enjoy it. I live in the suburbs of Birmingham, Alabama which is a medium sized city. My neighborhood is rather secluded and on a small mountain which has tons of woods in the area. A large amount of reptiles, birds, and other small animals are always around to observe and snap images. The camera on this phone is decent but the macro mode blows big time. I have an older 12 mp digital with x18 zoom telescopic lens. It does the job but certainly isn't a great camera these days. Are these kits worth it or should I save a few more bucks and grab a dslr? The lens kit for the Note 4 certainly looks neat but after setting it all up in the end isn't a regular camera easier? Maybe if you don't have a real camera it's a cheaper alternative to decent pics but I'm not sure... No sarcasm intended. Just wondering what you all think. Thanks for any info or opinions!
If you want to take some really good pictures and have a interested in pursuing photography as a career path or hobby. Then I would recommend getting a DSLR as no matter what kinda lens attachment you get for your Note 4. You are not gonna be able to take such high quality pictures that you would be able to take with a DSLR. Sure the Note 4 has a very good camera but at the end of the day it can match what you can do with a DSLR.
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I'm become something of a backyard photographer with the local wildlife/plants in my yard and really enjoy it. I live in the suburbs of Birmingham, Alabama which is a medium sized city. My neighborhood is rather secluded and on a small mountain which has tons of woods in the area. A large amount of reptiles, birds, and other small animals are always around to observe and snap images. The camera on this phone is decent but the macro mode blows big time. I have an older 12 mp digital with x18 zoom telescopic lens. It does the job but certainly isn't a great camera these days. Are these kits worth it or should I save a few more bucks and grab a dslr? The lens kit for the Note 4 certainly looks neat but after setting it all up in the end isn't a regular camera easier? Maybe if you don't have a real camera it's a cheaper alternative to decent pics but I'm not sure... No sarcasm intended. Just wondering what you all think. Thanks for any info or opinions!
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If you are shooting around your home, it is definitely better to have a dedicated camera because carrying it is not an issue. There is a glut of cameras on the market and you can find good deals. A dedicated camera will significantly outperform the Note 4 and open up the hobby for you. But, it takes a little knowledge to select and use a camera. You can start by going to a site like dpreview.com and looking at some of there camera comparisons. They tend to have articles on a given class of camera and compare many models. Also, there are many free tutorials on the net about how to use a camera. Lynda.com has some excellent courses.
The OP is trying to address a different issue. They already have a dedicated camera, but want to travel light and just use their Note 4. There are many reasons why someone with even a really great system may want to leave it behind and travel light. There are even creative reasons to do this. For example, you can pickup different images when you are basically invisible while using a smartphone. Pull out a huge DSLR and people begin to notice. Often a good compromise is a small mirrorless camera.
Regarding a mount, I couldn't recommend the Square Jellyfish any more highly: http://www.amazon.com/Square-Jellyf...d=1434851342&sr=1-2&keywords=square+jellyfish
Incredibly versatile and well-built.
As for a tripod, Monoprice has some excellent options, but not sure about the shipping cost to Canada. Re: Amazon's offerings, I would go for one of the several Joby-style "flexible leg" models. Again recommended due to versatility; prime ex. if there's no stable surface to set it on they can be wrapped around and "grip" a vertical pole (or pretty much anything) for a perfectly stable shot
Did you happen to find a lens kit for your Note 4? I'm looking, also, and am a little scared of what I'm finding so far. Thnx☺