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ATT Fuze NEWBs only - Little setup guide (Touch up 02/10/09)

Touched up some stuff that you don't have to click around through the whole thread. All LINKS are now in a separate post (#349) found here.
Edit 02/16/09 - Performance tweaks
How to make a stock Fuze ATT nice unbloated and performing reasonably well?
Lately several NEWB threads popped up and got answered individually which is very hard to track.
I thought I make a small write up what can be done with the stock ATT ROM without unlocking the phone and still have a decent device. Assumptions are that you don’t want/need the “goodies” supplied by ATT (called bloatware) and that you are willing to do some customization yourself. This is not in any disrespect to any ROM developer but I think some NEWBs are simply scared to tinker from day one with their device as in unlocking (SIM/Security unlock) and flashing several ROMs without really knowing what they are doing. They’ll do this later as soon as they are accustomed to their new shiny black fingerprint magnet.
NEWBs don’t forget that a lot of people here in the XDA community have a fairly good experience with HTC phones and come to the Raphael/Fuze through numerous other HTC devices (Tilt/Trinity etc. etc.) and know most of not all quirks and risks involved with flashing and hacking.
What you need:
PC with active sync working (I’m not a MAC guy so some may chime in)
SD card (highly suggested)
Basic understanding what a soft- and hard reset is
Quiet time (put kids, girlfriends, wives away for an hour or two) a good espresso, coke or coffee.
Installing stock ATT ROM without bloatware:
If you power on your device the first time you will be asked to align the screen, play with cut and paste, set a password. AFTER this step a large window will appear that the device will customize in a few seconds. At THAT MOMENT soft reset with the stylus in the reset hole. This will NOT install all ATT bloatware and will NOT install ATT’s version of TouchFlo3D (aka Manila). I bet that you will fail the first time, so look at the little ATT flyer where HARD RESET is explained and simply do it again. Hard reset will wipe out all you personal data. Not a big deal right now since you have none.
If you were successful you will have a green screen with some information on it.
Preparation:
<Settings – Personal – Menus> Take everything OUT beside the “File Explorer”
<Settings – Personal - Today – Items> take ALL checkmarks out, NOTHING should be checked.
Switch your phone off and back on, your start menu should be empty and showing “Today/File Explorer/Programs/Settings” that’s all you need right now!
Download the file in the provided link at the end and unzip to your PC.
Connect to a PC using active sync (you actually need not to sync, just to connect so say “cancel” and do not establish a partnership).
In active sync go to explore “MyWindows-MobileBasedDevice”, double click and double click on “Storage Card”. Create a new folder (File - New – Folder).
I call mine “@ESSENTIALS” that it appears right in top regardless what will be installed later. Copy all files to your storage card under the newly created folder.
My package includes an OEM Manila and all basic tools to setup your device. Credit goes to all original creators (too many to list).
Installation:
Open the File Explorer on your device and go to Storage Card “@essentials” /ManilaOEM tab on Manila animation and install ON DEVICE not storage card!
The phone will say it’s an untrusted application confirm with YES (we’ll take care of this later).
Phone will request a reboot, if not, reboot manually (power off/on).
After reboot you will have a basic Manila, do NOT play with it yet!
Open File Explorer on your device and go to the NetCF folder on the storage card and install NETCFv35.wm.armv4i on the device.
Go to the Config folder and install ALL applications which are listed there (Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3/Diamond TF3D Config Setup v0.6.7/Diamond Tweak 0.5.3_English).
Power off/on you phone
Go to Programs and Advanced Config Tool (acknowledge the warning and check the box that it doesn’t appear in the future).
Perform the following changes:
User interface – Nothing
Today – Nothing
Performances – File system cache enabled / Cache size 2MB / Filter cache 4096 / Glyph cache 32 KB
Power Management – Nothing
Screen – Nothing
Input – Keyboard backlight timeout 30 seconds
Network – Nothing
Phone – Show Band page YES
Bluetooth – Nothing
GPS – Assisted GPS disabled (if you are NOT using ATT’s costly GPS service)
Log file – Leave untouched for now
Data Connections – HSDPA icon enabled / HSUPA support enabled
Internet Explorer – Proxy Auto Detection enabled
Messaging – Nothing
Calendar – Nothing
Camera – Save location DCIM
Locations – Change all DEFAULT STORAGE entries to \Storage Card\My Documents\ and then the folder name (pictures etc.)
Don’t touch other entries and go straight to
Light Sensor – Polling disabled
Miscellaneous – Security warning disabled
Confirm with DONE and reboot phone
After reboot go to the Storage Card folder “Tools” and install in the numbered order 07_FExploreEXT_2_03 / 08_G - DK 4.3 Add 3G to Comm Manager should force a phone reboot, if not reboot after EACH one. After the boot go again to the tools folder and install 09_SASHIMI7.5 which will ask you some questions after install, just follow the instructions no harm will be done. Do some forum reading for what it is for. It will take some ROM flashing, Hard Reset fear away. Last but not least install 10_Data_Backup v3.1 (which is HTC Backup).
That’s the basic setup and you’ll have a good and reasonably fast running ATT Fuze.
If you want you can install Skyfire browser (on storage card) and the latest Opera Browser (on device overwriting what was provided with the Manila Package) and the latest google maps (on the storage card) which are in the corresponding folders in my package.
@essentials package content: (check also upd_1 additions here)
\Browsers
Opera_9.5.2808_VGA _acard
Skyfire_8184-PPC50
\Config
Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3
Diamond TF3D Config Setup v0.6.7
Diamond Tweak 0.5.3_English
\Google\GoogleMaps_compressed (latest with street view)
\ManilaOEM
Manila animation (fully animated version)
Manila_1.2.34569.1_1813.6_clock_animated (only clock animated)
\NetCF
NETCFv2WM (netCF 2.0)
NETCFv35.wm.armv4i (net CF 3.5)
\Tools\ (files numbered in order to install)
01_GPSTest.ppc
02_LumosSetupV08 (great tool for better setup of the auto light sensor – DISABLE auto light sensor in you settings
03_No Sleep Raphael
04_regedit.Mrln_ARM (registry editor)
05_tcmdpocketarm (Total Commander)
06_TNT Battery Level (little tool to display status battery on top)
07_FExploreEXT_2_03 (file explorer extensions)
08_G - DK 4.3 Add 3G to Comm Manager (enable 3G on off on CommMgr.)
09_SASHIMI7.5 (auto installer which will come handy with future ROM flashes)
10_Data_Backup v3.1 (HTC Data Backup) install on device not SD
MyMobile123_06152008. Copy this exe file to your PC and run it that you can control your phone through the PC, make screen shots etc.
A last word regarding backup:
Do frequently backups!!
If you plan to flash ROMs, backup ONLY the PIM database because a restore of a full backup will ruin your newly installed ROM!!!
If you stick with the same ROM a full backup will work .
A PIM backup contains by default all contacts and emails.
Have tons of fun with your new toy!!
Appearance content:
RC Mod v.2.1 ENG.CAB
Blue Hue.tsk
Default_ROMeOS.tsk
Default_TiR.tsk
Diamond.tsk
Glossy Black Bars.exe
HTC Black.tsk
myBlue_Void.tsk
WM 6.1 Black.tsk
WM 6.1 Blue.tsk
some & screenshots named by the TSK files
Clocks
Zitoun_Black
Matt_Jackson
JStar_Black
Notes:
TouchFlo3D aka Manila 3D has some default colors, so does ATT's version of Manila (I guess orange highlights). These are hard coded into the reg.
To change you have to edit the registry (regedit in the essentials).
Please read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442286 at LEAST the first two pages to cover the large start menu as well!!!
To change upper and lower bars / softkey background I made a little appearance pack which you can download (screenshots are included).
I also included RCMod 2.1 from o3blig here in the forum if you really don't like any of the TSKs and Glossy Black Bars.exe for .. guess what GLOSSY BLACK BARS
Clocks
To change the basic clock you need to overwrite six files in the Windows directory using Total Commander provided with the first pack.
I suggest to copy the original files FIRST somewhere else in case you don't like the clock!!![/B]
The filenames are:
0aa5b915_manila
1bbfdc9b_manila
1c813f6c_manila
4e670504_manila
757e7332_manila
78ca32be_manila

Excellent job!
Well-written and very informative yet more concise and effective than the Wiki if you ask me, at least for the audience you're targeting. That's sticky material in my book (but not in my bookmarks ).
I linked your post on the top of my site which is more of a next step for the noobs once they make their way through your instructions. Feel free to reciprocate.
Doug

Very good job, I can see you spent some time on that.

tyguy said:
If you power on your device the first time you will be asked to align the screen, play with cut and paste, set a password. AFTER this step a large window will appear that the device will customize in a few seconds. At THAT MOMENT soft reset with the stylus in the reset hole. This will NOT install all ATT bloatware and will NOT install ATT’s version of TouchFlo3D (aka Manila). I bet that you will fail the first time, so look at the little ATT flyer where HARD RESET is explained and simply do it again. Hard reset will wipe out all you personal data. Not a big deal right now since you have none.
If you were successful you will have a green screen with some information on it.
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I did this when I first got my Fuze and it installed all the bloatware anyway after the soft reset but ran worse than with the bloat.
I don't mean to say this method doesn't work, just a word of warning that it's not 100% foolproof either. You might have to do it a few times to get the timing right for it to work; I just went with a cooked ROM in the end.

Hey thanks for the comments and - yes - I ran more than once through this routine (this happens when you catch a BAD cold and have nothing to do at home ...).
@kerensky97
Hahaha mark my words ... upps QUOTE my words
At THAT MOMENT soft reset with the stylus in the reset hole. This will NOT install all ATT bloatware and will NOT install ATT’s version of TouchFlo3D (aka Manila). I bet that you will fail the first time, so look at the little ATT flyer where HARD RESET is explained and simply do it again.
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I first want to thank you tyguy, i followed your directions and am quite pleased. Secondly i wanted to ask if there was a way to reactivate the 'zoom' wheel feature to the opera browser.

Great guide! Exactly what I was looking for. I do have one issue: I already got past the first time powering on and setup, so all the ATT bloatware was installed. Any cures for this scenario?

jdomi99 said:
Great guide! Exactly what I was looking for. I do have one issue: I already got past the first time powering on and setup, so all the ATT bloatware was installed. Any cures for this scenario?
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a hard reset can be performed by Start>settings>system>clear storage>1234>ok.
this will allow you to start the process over

Thanks, fuzewoes, I'll try that.

Dude I've had my FUZE for about 3 weeks and have it all setup nicely but Im gonna save a backup an hard reset and try this, just sounds to great to pass up, does the manilla you have us install look like that black one or does it look like the gray style that comes with att stock? Does it let you set backgrounds to all tabs?
Thanks man!

Hard reset - 1234
Remember even after this hard reset you have to time the stylus soft reset otherwise all ATT software include ATT Manila WILL be installed!
Hint:
Do a PIM Backup of your personal data and emails first using the HTC backup in the RAR file and store it on the SD card.
Clock
Yes, both provided Manila versions come with the HTC known "flip clock" (black numbers white background). If you like another clock please follow what's written in the Raphael and Diamond Theme threads.
If you like the clock in the screenshot install the attached CAB (thanks and high-fives go to JStarLuvsTina!)
Background all tabs
I don't recall 1000% if the wallpaper will change for all tabs since I went back to my preferred ROM after running this install but, if not, the solution
is in the attached CAB mUn BackGround4AllPages v.02.cab or read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432951&highlight=background+tabs
Zoom
Hmmm, actually this should work out of the box. Did you check in Diamond Tweaks "19.Touch-sensitive Wheel". If this doesn't solve the problem let me know.

does it install sprite backup? i was planning on making a full backup of my current system and if case i didnt like it this way i would just restore my backup

Fuze Set Up Question:
Can you please tell me how to me typing "i" automatically change to "I"
I have tried everything and just can't seem to be able to figure out how to ADD auto correct words.
Another I would like is the days of the week or months. I want to program into my fuze that if I type "monday" it automatically corrects and shows "Monday" (and the same with the rest of the days and months.
How can I set up auto correct words so when I am typing with the keyboard these changes will be automatically made.
Thanks.
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how do you get the top and low bar to become black, i currently have it green

@TVDinner
I'd say "wrong thread" please ask this questions somewhere else.
@peste19
AFAIK Sprite comes with the stock ROM regardless if you "Manila" it or not.
To change the colors you need a different TSK file.
If you want to freely change the upper and lower bar look for RCMod.
I guess you are looking for the Original HTC Black / Green.
Attached are some of my favs, unzip, copy into the windows dir and select under "Settings-Today"
ZIP content:
Diamond.tsk
HTC Black.tsk
myBlue_Void.tsk
Blue Hue.tsk
WM Azrieli.tsk
WM 6.1 Black.tsk
WM 6.1 Blue.tsk

thanks tyguy by the way great post

peste19 said:
how do you get the top and low bar to become black, i currently have it green
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Change theme to HTC Black.

If that does not exist it would be a tsk file you can search for.

Has anyone tried the weather database editor with this method? It doesnt work for me, when i open the editor it doesnt show the countries, just a blank white screen

Great Guide a lot of time spent and good work.
It would appear that AT$T has thrown us a slight curve in the bloatware dept.
When setting up the phone after a hard reset, go through the screen alignment window and the practice moving files window. But then right when the screen turns to the WM 6.! desktop, do the soft reset, If you wait till the customizations in three seconds screen appears, it is too late and you will have to do it again.
It appears that AT$T figured too many people knew how to hide the bloatware, so they changed it up slightly so you would have to load the bloatware at least the first time.

Child friendly ROM

I was wondering if anyone already tried to create a ROM wich is child friendly.
I have an old Wizard that I might give to my son of 5 to play with.
I also provided a SIM card into the device so that My wife or I can call him when he is at his grandparrents. But most roms provide so many applications and to easy access to the configuration, that it is too easy for my son to screw it up.
So I was looking for a ROM that has an easy menu with BIG buttons.
Most required items requested.
Windows Live Messenger
Games (like bubbe breaker, etc...)
Dailer with only programmed pictures (so he can not call to the bahamas : )
Configuration of the device should be possible after inserting a password.
Anyone any idea?
Bror

Bump great idea!!!
I really like this idea... really like it!
I suppose that with MANILA it is possible to set the contacts programs and and everthyng... I just don't know how to password protect the settings.
How smart is your 5 yearold?
Also, I know that the wizard was built to last, but how do you know he won't drop it?
I think that you should start collecting programs and games. I think that limiting the access to the settings can be done with initflashfiles.dat OEM_LANG.provxml.
You could access the settings via activesync or pocket controler on the computer, and you could also create shotrcuts to all the settings programs on a separate storage card.
If you know of any programs that limit settings for ppc let me know. I really like this idea!!

S.V.I said:
How smart is your 5 yearold?
Also, I know that the wizard was built to last, but how do you know he won't drop it?
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He is smart enough to watch closely my actions and to copy them directly. Even experimenting and learning from the results. This last thing bothers me, coz I do not want to spend every night to put everything in order.
But I can assure you that he does take care for it. From time when driving I already asked him to pick up the phone and he knows to take care.
I do not think this ROM should need much fancy things...
Call firewall is nice to block unwanted incoming/outgoing phonecalls. So having this in the autostart would be fine.
A replacement for the startmenu but with a password which then gives access to the config settings... (could not yet find anything like this)
On the today maybe 2 manila buttons which is contacts and applications (just a matter of configuration)
Windows Live (so he can send voiceclips in stead of typing)
Lot's of games (sandbox, bubblebreaker)
Browser with youtube support (yes, he knows to handle youtube)
Camera ( He likes to take ugly pictures of his younger brother)
all the rest like mobile office and calculater, ... can be left away...
Of coarse a good configuration of the buttons will be important too
Do you have any idea which should be included ?
Cheers,
SirSkull

sirskull said:
I was wondering if anyone already tried to create a ROM wich is child friendly.
I have an old Wizard that I might give to my son of 5 to play with.
I also provided a SIM card into the device so that My wife or I can call him when he is at his grandparrents. But most roms provide so many applications and to easy access to the configuration, that it is too easy for my son to screw it up.
So I was looking for a ROM that has an easy menu with BIG buttons.
Most required items requested.
Windows Live Messenger
Games (like bubbe breaker, etc...)
Dailer with only programmed pictures (so he can not call to the bahamas : )
Configuration of the device should be possible after inserting a password.
Anyone any idea?
Bror
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Windows Live Messenger for a 5yo? Oh my...
Why not get him a mobile that was actually designed for kids of his age? I heard there is one on the market - makes calls to programmed numbers only, has a few games, plays music etc.

He fancys dad's phone and is keen on the games on it. So since I have a 2nd Wizard here where the screen is slightly scratched, I do not mind giving this to him. He knows how to use the messenger voiceclips, so when he is at home he can use messenger to chat with me. This would reduce the MobilePhone calling costs. And no, skype is no option since I am not aloowed to install this on my company pc + skype is blocked by the firewalls at my work.

Buy him a Nintendo DS. It'll be more expensive, but it'll also be a lot less work at your end, because I guarantee something awful like deleting system files will happen more often than you care to realize.
I foresee many flashings and re-flashings to this phone...
That said, I'd put a manila-flavored ROM on it, and unless you have an unlimited data plan, I'd load Modaco's NoData, lock out all data transmissions except the phone, and remove the shortcut to make NoData harder to find (along with any other settings-related functions. You can also hide the whole Settings directory in QuickMenu, and then turn it back on when you need to adjust something for him.

Parental Controls
I am thinking about givign my 13 y/o one of these as a cellphone... I have an 8925 and so does my older stepsone... MY 13 y/o needs a little more constant supervision.... I am not too concerned aobut bigger buttons and such.. but about child frendly as in parents can have some sort of parental password before the kids do certian things (like Vista does)... Say before he calls someone outside of his contacts list or adds someone to it.... makes a call after a certian time... or even limit the number of min he can use or something.. Any suggestions on any of that?

there is a way to get rid of the file explorer as well as the settings menu. without the file explorer you have no access to the windows folder... but you should also realize that you can not delete files that are in rom... however you still have access to the settings apps in the windows folder.
This is what I would do:
1: delete the shortcuts to file explorer and other program shortcuts and move them into a folder to a blank storage card.
2: set the last programs shortcut in the start menu to "total commander on this storage card. since the program can not be activated without the storage card inserted, you have no access to settings.
3. gather all of the "parental control programs" and post the cabs here on thos thread so that they can be cooked in to the rom, without the shortcuts... shortcuts can be made into a cab... or manual copy/paste shortcuts or even autorun CPY1/CPY2 to storage card upon hard reset (hardware buttons)
I think that the most important part for the parents to realize, is that the child should not be limited too much. this is an opportunity for these youths to get a first hands on experience of technology, as well as understanding of computers.
Up untill now these devices were too expesive to hand off to children, now that they have gotten old and cheap, they are perfect tools to help with a child developing their inteligence (problem solving, writing, counting, organization... etc)
there are enough repressed children without life exerience out there. no sex no drugs and no rock and roll unless it is 20 years old and have been tested and proven by Dysney Corp (who put phalic symbols in every movie)
dont be a fashist parent and keep in mind that kids need to learn from experience. I will not cook a rom that limits that.

S.V.I said:
3. gather all of the "parental control programs" and post the cabs here on thos thread so that they can be cooked in to the rom, without the shortcuts...
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Call Firewall v1.4 can block selected incoming and outgoing calls. It only needs a macro application in order to minimize (and maybe save) the application after it started up.
S.V.I said:
there are enough repressed children without life exerience out there. no sex no drugs and no rock and roll unless it is 20 years old and have been tested and proven by Dysney Corp (who put phalic symbols in every movie)
dont be a fashist parent and keep in mind that kids need to learn from experience. I will not cook a rom that limits that.
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My son is free to experiment with my second device (my wife will become angry when she would read this. She thinks I making a geek of him. I call it technological self deployment )

As a mom of twin 8 year olds...
I cannot cook, however, having 8 year old twins, I know exactly what you are asking for. My kids are techies and love to play around with my wizard, so I think it is safe to say that I understand where you are coming from.
NTS made a WM6 rom quite some time back, which is crazy stable and fast. It is a dinosaur by today's rom standards, however, my kids mess with my phone and it has yet to freak out, crap out, or anything. I would be happy to upload it for you. It is pretty minimal to begin with, and if you add HTC Home, delete a few shortcuts, add one or two programs like tcpmp and call firewall, and some games, I think it would fit your needs. This rom is NOT fancy, does not have manilla, sliders, or any real bells or whistles--it is close to 2 years old, but again, it is crazy stable and seemingly twin proof. The rom is called Jaguar 3.1 if you want to search the threads for it to read up...the links are all dead though. I still have it on my wizard, and while I have tried updated roms, I keep going back to this one because it plays well with children.

Always happy to test this Jag 3.1 Rom. Maybe we can adopt this version into WM6.1

Crazy stable, childproof= yay Jag!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314660&highlight=jaguar
This link is for Jag 3.1 rom. The rom download links are dead, but if you want to read about it...
As far as childproof roms go, I absolutely swear by Jag!
I can upload it if you want to give it a test drive.

Looks promising... Can you make the rom available too? I'll see what my son thinks about it then.

Linky...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SO1U6CLF
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
This is a link to the Jaguar 3.1 rom-- created by nottoosmart.
As I said, it is an older WM6 rom, without any real bells or whistles, but it is amazingly stable and kid-friendly. You can install HTC Home (the version for WM5 works best), call firewall, tcpmp for movies and cartoons (using an sd card for storage) and some games and it would be pretty much ready to go.
I do not know if Manilla will work on this rom as I have not tested it myself, but HTC Home can be customized, thanks to the program by emunutz.
It does support Google Maps, Skype, Skyfire browser and those types of "grown up" apps-- so just because it plays well with kids, doesn't mean it isn't capable of kicking ass.
Enjoy.

[Q] Some newbe questions

I have a few questions and thought I'd post them for you Android Ninjas to laugh at. Once you get though recognizing my ignorance though, I'd love some education.
Why does my phone give me errors that it can't move apps to my SD card (says it is full) when I have 7GB free on it?
I tried installing an app and it told me that there wasn't enough room in SYS to unpack the files. Is this related to #1? How can I give more space to SYS?
Do widgets or live wallpaper consume CPU or battery when the screen is off or the phone is locked? In other words, will a sleeping phone with lots of widgets use more power than one with just static shortcuts on the screen?
Is the Android memory management good enough that you don't need to reboot the device every day or so in order to clear everything out and get optimum performance?
I've played with the rooted stock ROM for the Inspire, Revolution 4, and now CM7. I see the differences between the UI interface. But what is the purpose/benefit in changing kernals?
Every evening at 7pm, I get a blank SMS message notification with no content and no sender name/number. When I click to open it, it launches GO SMS, but there is no corresponding message in my list of messages. What is this and how do I get it to stop?

3. yes, the more, the more resources and cpu used. livewallpaper uses more than static wallpaper. more widgets, especially ones that update and use data, use resource more than no widgets, etc.
4. android OS is rock solid. i go weeks without reboot. i just went 540 hours on one boot, and that's just the best one that i paid attention to. it goes longer but after 22 days it loses its fun of keeping track.
5. differetn kernels are for different purposes. some are over clocked for performance. some are under volted for longer battery life. its just ways to tweak the phone to get what you want out of it.

[APP] Motion detector with recording abilities

Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum. I decided to register here after I completed my android project.
I created a program that can detect movements and save pictures of the moving objects. Phone has to remain static in order to work properly. The program also features separate address book. Address book keeps phone numbers for SMS notification. In order to activate that you have to create a new contact then long press the item in the list. The program creates folder on memory card where it saves the pictures. The speed is very high on Galaxy S. You can throw something fast and phone still snaps the flying object if it passes by the camera.
The program has many settings that can dramatically alter the performance. Settings have to be adjusted in accordance with the lighting conditions.
I tested app only on 2.2 Vibrant. I am really curious to see how it works on other 2.2 devices.
ARMv7 processor is a must!!
Please give me some feedback!
App is called Motion Recorder

this sounds like a great app. gonna try it now on my incredible.

My app MobileWebCam also does this (simpler detection algorithm I suppose) and can automatically save, upload the pictures or send email:
Development Thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=950933
Are you interested in sharing your motion detection code? Possibly we could combine functionality of both apps?

dirtsky, If you have any questions or if you find any bugs please write in this thread.
The program is little hard to use so feel free to ask.
_miha_, Mine detects motion by analyzing color. What about yours?
How do you send e-mail without the annoying pop up?

theandre said:
_miha_, Mine detects motion by analyzing color. What about yours?
How do you send e-mail without the annoying pop up?
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My motion detection is three steps: Image is converted to grey, then I max every pixel with the ones around to remove the flickering pixels (especially needed for night/low contrast situations) and calc the difference between the last and this new pixels. Some magic value (which should better be configurable later decides about the motion. Problem is this is very slow (should use the ndk but only began working with it recently) so I have to scale down the image before which is bad for small/distant moving objects.
Email: Is not sent with Android/Intent. I use JavaMail. I had some difficulties with the libs but got it working somehow (and even more difficulties with proguard which I needed because file size is getting too large without using it).

_miha_, did you test my app? How does it stack up against yours in terms of performance?

I cant seem to find where the images are being saved on my SDcard. Epic 4G Froyo ec05 midNight Rom
I looked for the folder "Motion Recorder" and i dont see it. and theres nothing in the Gallery

zman519, since your device is basically Galaxy S type it will save in internal memory(aka 14 GB "SD card").
Please let me know if you find the folder there.

I have total 105 installs out which 35 are active. Is it considered as bad result?

UPDATE: 59 active installs out of 109 which makes it >50%. Is it good?

theandre said:
zman519, since your device is basically Galaxy S type it will save in internal memory(aka 14 GB "SD card").
Please let me know if you find the folder there.
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The Epic does not have an internal sdcard. That must be the problem. I looked around with root explorer and did not see the folder.
Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.

zman519, thank you for feedback, I will fix that and let you know once the update is ready. It should not take more than half an hour.

Question to developers:
My program saves pictures to the following path:
String path = "/sdcard/Motion Recorder/TakenOn" +...
Why does it not automatically save to external sd card in the case when there is no internal sd?
UPDATE. I figured out myself. Working on update that allows user to choose between internal and external memory.

Hello dev,
I tried it on my DHD - it crashes and don't save settings.

I just updated to v0.42 which adds support for the external storage. Just go to settings and tap the checkbox. Unfortunately I have not tested the new feature on the actual hardware because I do not have one at the moment. So please, those of you who can test it please let me know if it does not work.
drast-x, Thank you for the feedback. Please give me some more details. When does it crash? After you hit the start? When you hit the start do you get the preview from the camera? Unfortunately settings do not save after the exit except contacts...
Did it happen on:Jun 11, 2011 9:32:07 PM ? I ask you this because Developer console shows me one crash that occurred at that time:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Fail to connect to camera service
at android.hardware.Camera.native_setup(Native Method)
at android.hardware.Camera.<init>(Camera.java:294)
at android.hardware.Camera.open(Camera.java:271)

Does saving pictures work on any of the phones except Epic 4g?
Thank you

I updated to v0.45
Now settings will save. Motion Recorder 0.45

Many thanks to the user of my app who sent this feedback:
"force close when start button clicked in nexus".
It turns out Nexus One (or S?) does not support either VGA or QVGA preview frames. So I had to fix this issue by requesting the supported resolutions. Very surprised by this issue. I expected that Android OS would figure this out on its own...
Thus new version 0.45.5 is supposed to fix the issue. I do not have Nexus One so I am not 100% about the fix. Those of you who are reading this and have Nexus One, please try new version!
Thank you!

Have you tried first reducing your image resolution to something ridiculously small like 32x32 and apply a DCT to keep only the low frequencies?
This might offer much better performance.
You can perform very good
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My motion detection is three steps: Image is converted to grey, then I max every pixel with the ones around to remove the flickering pixels (especially needed for night/low contrast situations) and calc the difference between the last and this new pixels. Some magic value (which should better be configurable later decides about the motion. Problem is this is very slow (should use the ndk but only began working with it recently) so I have to scale down the image before which is bad for small/distant moving objects.
Email: Is not sent with Android/Intent. I use JavaMail. I had some difficulties with the libs but got it working somehow (and even more difficulties with proguard which I needed because file size is getting too large without using it).
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[Q] Doubts before jumping from Android to WP7: Have this issues been taken care of?

Hi there!
I'm a long-time Android user (since December 2009) and have watched some videos / read about Windows Phone 7 and found it pretty interesting at first glance. More than anything else, it's UI speed and smoothness right out of the box, it's minimalism and integration. The thing is, after I dug deeper, found some information in some sites/threads of XDA that kept me thinking if the OS is right for me.
I have had a Motorola Milestone and after it, a Samsung Galaxy S which is the one that I'm using right now (with an Android 2.3.5 custom rom).
I was decided to sell my SGS and buy a Motorola Atrix, most of all because of it's dual-core processor (and apparent nice smoothness right out of the box), resolution and HDMI-out with the bundled cable. Now I wanted to try the Samsung Focus, which is almost the same as my SGS hardware wise, but the apparently more optimized OS would make it's use a nicer experience.
The thing is, I've read quite a lot and made a list of some things and doubts about WP7 and Mango, and would like to know if after getting some answers I could finally decide what to do with my money. The Atrix is almost 200usd over the Focus, at least from what I have seen (have to buy it unlocked to use it in Argentina).
That was a WAY TOO LONG introduction, so now, the questions:
1) Is it true that there's no mass-storage mode when you plug it into a PC? You depend exclusively on the Zune app?
2) And linked to the previous one: I use linux (more precisely Ubuntu) on my main computer. Is that going to be a problem with file transfer and other stuff? I am forced to use a Windows PC?
3) Is there a way to stop the data transfer from my carrier? I don't want it to connect to internet other than by Wi-Fi when I don't ask for it.
4) Can the OS be set in a language and the keyboard prediction in a different one? Does the keyboard vibrate on keypress?
5) Can the contacts be synchronized with the GMail contacts as you do it on Android?
6) Can you make visible in contacts only the ones with a phone number added?
7) Since there's no notification light and the screen is a Super Amoled as the one in the SGS, is there an application like NoLED in Android, which allows you to use the screen as notification light?
8) Is there a free GPS app that uses offline maps? (I would prefer the ones of Garmin or Tomtom, but I'm open to alternatives)
9) Is it true that when you change the SD Card you have to format everything/hard reset the phone? Or just the memory? And if you happen to know, why is that requiered?
10) Are you forced to reduce quality of the videos you transfer to the phone because it doesn't support many formats? It's because of the "tie-ness" to Zune/lack of mass storage? Is there something similar happening with music?
11) Vibrate and ring at the same time, is it possible? (Read somewhere it wasn't). And what about adding custom ringtones?
12) I come from Android and know how easy it is to root the phone and expand your possibilities. Is there something similar in WP7? Is it worth the effort or it's still not widely used? I read something about lock/relock, has it something to do with this matter? Or with the use of downloaded paid apps?
I guess that's it for now. The thing is, the first 3 or 4 questions are deal-breakers to me if the answer is negative. I have read some stuff but I got confused between the release info, the post-NoDo and the post-Mango info, so I really don't get where are things at the moment. I really appreciate the time you spent reading all this and thank you for just doing it (and I'm sorry if some things aren't clear enough since english is not my native language). If you can help me by answering at least one of the questions, I'm already grateful
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!

jmtast said:
1) Is it true that there's no mass-storage mode when you plug it into a PC? You depend exclusively on the Zune app?
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More or less: There are some tricks how you can use your phone as mass stroage but not offically. So Zune is nearly a must-have
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2) And linked to the previous one: I use linux (more precisely Ubuntu) on my main computer. Is that going to be a problem with file transfer and other stuff? I am forced to use a Windows PC?
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I guess so.
But you will maybe able to get a VM running that bridges the usb port...
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3) Is there a way to stop the data transfer from my carrier? I don't want it to connect to internet other than by Wi-Fi when I don't ask for it.
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Yeah, easy to stop it. It's a option in the settings.
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4) Can the OS be set in a language and the keyboard prediction in a different one? Does the keyboard vibrate on keypress?
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You can switch between selected languages every time! Without going to the settings... It doesn't vibrate on mine, Dunno if you can enable it...
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5) Can the contacts be synchronized with the GMail contacts as you do it on Android?
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I think it's possible cuz there's a special option for adding a gmail account (but don't be angry if it's not possible cuz I nver tried it)
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6) Can you make visible in contacts only the ones with a phone number added?
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You can filter them by account (so hide all facebook accounts would maybe do the trick or so) but I think it's not possible the other way round
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7) Since there's no notification light and the screen is a Super Amoled as the one in the SGS, is there an application like NoLED in Android, which allows you to use the screen as notification light?
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Never seen anything like that...
jmtast said:
8) Is there a free GPS app that uses offline maps? (I would prefer the ones of Garmin or Tomtom, but I'm open to alternatives)
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There are some... Most of them use OSM/Google/Bing...
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9) Is it true that when you change the SD Card you have to format everything/hard reset the phone? Or just the memory? And if you happen to know, why is that requiered?
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Yes, it's true cuz wp7 has a raid 0 with the internal memory and the sd...
jmtast said:
10) Are you forced to reduce quality of the videos you transfer to the phone because it doesn't support many formats? It's because of the "tie-ness" to Zune/lack of mass storage? Is there something similar happening with music?
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You can set the music quality (kbit/s). And I never noticed any loss when I transfer a video via zune...
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11) Vibrate and ring at the same time, is it possible? (Read somewhere it wasn't). And what about adding custom ringtones?
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Yes, that's all possible...
jmtast said:
12) I come from Android and know how easy it is to root the phone and expand your possibilities. Is there something similar in WP7? Is it worth the effort or it's still not widely used? I read something about lock/relock, has it something to do with this matter? Or with the use of downloaded paid apps?
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Yes, you need a dev unlock to send apps from your pc to your phone for example... And there various other possibilities like Registry Editor, Apps with Interop etc. So it's quite useful to "root" your device...
Hope that helps you....
Just for info: I'm using an HD2 with Mango... So all the info is for mango only

based on your first 2 questions, I really suggest you stick with android.
WP7 is relying on the Zune Software and there's no Linux sollution. There's a mac sollution by MS, but not sure if it'll work in linux.
If your main PC is running Linux, you'd either have to always reboot into windows or try finding a VM sollution, which could easily introduce new problems.

Localhorst86 said:
based on your first 2 questions, I really suggest you stick with android.
WP7 is relying on the Zune Software and there's no Linux sollution. There's a mac sollution by MS, but not sure if it'll work in linux.
If your main PC is running Linux, you'd either have to always reboot into windows or try finding a VM sollution, which could easily introduce new problems.
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Agree with this. Windows Phone is great but not for a linux guy like you and the extent of customization available on Android is NOT available on wp7.

chabun said:
Yes, it's true cuz wp7 has a raid 0 with the internal memory and the sd...
99% sure this is incorrect? Yes you cant just hot-swap cards like you can in Andriod, but this being due to WP7 doing RAID 0 (or any RAID for that matter) must be incorrect???....
I use RAID 0, 1 and 5 on various computers but I cant see ANY phone having RAID capabilities?...Someone correct me if I am wrong as this would be big news to me. Not that I can see it being usefull on any mobile device.
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Thanks a lot for the fast, kind and useful answers guys.
I guess that, as Localhorst86 said, the OS has some limitations that I simply cannot avoid. It's a pity because I was really interested in trying this UI's approach, but gonna have to wait a bit more to see if they support Linux and evolve in some other areas.
Will start looking for the Atrix as I originally planned then.
Best regards.

Jdixon85 said:
I use RAID 0, 1 and 5 on various computers but I cant see ANY phone having RAID capabilities?...Someone correct me if I am wrong as this would be big news to me. Not that I can see it being usefull on any mobile device.
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I think it's actually more akin to an NTFS spanned volume than a hardware-based RAID 0, but practically speaking, yes, it does create a single logical volume that spans the internal + SD card memory, which is why it needs to be reformatted if you swap a card in/out.

bkaul said:
I think it's actually more akin to an NTFS spanned volume than a hardware-based RAID 0, but practically speaking, yes, it does create a single logical volume that spans the internal + SD card memory, which is why it needs to be reformatted if you swap a card in/out.
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more of a JBOD than a RAID, then.

Anway, I don't know how ms achieved the link between the sd card and the nand memory. And I do know that's not hardware raid 'cause the hd2 has no such controller on board
And yes it's JBOD but I can't tell you how the software layer controls them....