This has been on my mind for a long time. I hope I will get a definitive answer in this topic.
I am quite fond of the HTC Dream, but I got a Hero because my carrier did not have the Dream. To my disappointment, almost every application was skinned by HTC. The music player, the lock-screen, the message-application, almost everything.
The browser even had some functionality removed, although it gained 'pinch to zoom'. Also the photo app is a lot slower, and the music player is very clumsy compared to the Dream player.
-Is it possible to port these applications to other android phones, in this case the HTC Hero?
-If so, would it be difficult?
Here is a list of the 'applications' that I confirmed as skinned by HTC:
-sms application
-music player
-calendar
-browser
-lock screen
-cellphone /dialer application
-contact list
-camera application
-albums application
I understand that the Hero is at 1.5, thus it would require the corresponding 1.5 Dream applications.
I ask this in the Dream forum, because you obviously have experience with the Dream, and also a very good understanding of how android works. Thanks for reading this!
Grab a 1.5 rom and try to install the apps.
You do realize that this is a feature of the hero and senseUI correct?
evilkorn said:
Grab a 1.5 rom and try to install the apps.
You do realize that this is a feature of the hero and senseUI correct?
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I understand that the skinned apps are 'features'.
I want to know if it is possible.
E2K said:
This has been on my mind for a long time. I hope I will get a definitive answer in this topic.
I am quite fond of the HTC Dream, but I got a Hero because my carrier did not have the Dream. To my disappointment, almost every application was skinned by HTC. The music player, the lock-screen, the message-application, almost everything.
The browser even had some functionality removed, although it gained 'pinch to zoom'. Also the photo app is a lot slower, and the music player is very clumsy compared to the Dream player.
-Is it possible to port these applications to other android phones, in this case the HTC Hero?
-If so, would it be difficult?
Here is a list of the 'applications' that I confirmed as skinned by HTC:
-sms application
-music player
-calendar
-browser
-lock screen
-cellphone /dialer application
-contact list
-camera application
-albums application
I understand that the Hero is at 1.5, thus it would require the corresponding 1.5 Dream applications.
I ask this in the Dream forum, because you obviously have experience with the Dream, and also a very good understanding of how android works. Thanks for reading this!
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the browser and music application have been ported if thats what u were asking
It would be possible, you would just to have the corresponding apps from a 1.5 dream rom. You would lose all of the features that the skinned one's have though. It also would not be possible without root access as you would need to replace system apps, which need elevated permissions
JAguirre1231 said:
It would be possible, you would just to have the corresponding apps from a 1.5 dream rom. You would lose all of the features that the skinned one's have though. It also would not be possible without root access as you would need to replace system apps, which need elevated permissions
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In the Hero forum, a developer was claiming that this would not be possible, because the Dream apps use a custom framework, which the Hero lacks. He (literary) said they would never be fully functional or stable
But root access, plus replacing the app should suffice?
E2K said:
In the Hero forum, a developer was claiming that this would not be possible, because the Dream apps use a custom framework, which the Hero lacks. He (literary) said they would never be fully functional or stable
But root access, plus replacing the app should suffice?
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i have run many hero roms and had no issues installing older apk files from my G1. this has never been a problem. I am now running 2.0 and most of the widgets that i was able to run on hero i cannot run on here so in a word "no" they are probably not compatible. im thinking of going back to my hero =(
E2K said:
In the Hero forum, a developer was claiming that this would not be possible, because the Dream apps use a custom framework, which the Hero lacks. He (literary) said they would never be fully functional or stable
But root access, plus replacing the app should suffice?
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It should yes, you would grab the Browser.apk from a cupcake build and push it to something like /system/app or /data/app_s or /system/sd/app_s or /data/app_int depending on what rom you're running
You MIGHT be able to use the early,non Sense UI Hero ROM dump apps.... but I have no idea where to find it now....
Stock Android?
Well, replacing all those apps should be as simple as replacing the apks in /system/app with the apks from stock Cupcake... but.... why have Hero if you replace them all? You're pretty much left with just stock Cupcake and some Hero framework that doesn't do you any good, except maybe for HTC Peep and Weather.... Why wouldn't you just use a regular Android build? 1.6 AOSP + Google apps should run fine on Hero... I don't know how well CyanogenMod supports Hero, but I imagine it should work just fine, considering Cyanogen officially supports the Magic.
I know this doesn't exactly answer your question, but, seriously... why the heck would you want to do that, instead of just run an AOSP-based build?
Thanks for all the replies!
The Hero devs have not yet produced a working AOSP-based build, which is why that would not be an option.
Exchanging all the apps would, for me, be the best solution because 1.6 is not needed, and I want the trackball to function, along with the GPS for example.
1.5 with the original apps would be a blessing.
Afterwards, I can try to delete all the HTC things that keep popping up in the memory, like touch-flo (I use the regular homescreen), or the HTC mail, which I never used or set up, and see if it keeps working (without crashing).
So my best course of action would be:
1) collect all necessary apps from a 1.5 cupcake build
2) backup everything
3) root hero
4) nandroid backup
5) locate the to be replaced app
6) replace an app and see if the phone still works
7) repeat 5 and 6 until everything is working as much as possible
8) another nandroid backup of the working "stock cupcake-apped" Rom
and if I have time left;
9) locate HTC sense-related programs, delete them and see if the rom still works.
Any tips or changes to my plan before I attempt this?
barking up the wrong tree, here's what you do:
1. Find 1.5-based HTC rom (like in rogers or sapphire phones, not stock google ones)
2. ???
3. profit
jubeh said:
barking up the wrong tree, here's what you do:
1. Find 1.5-based HTC rom (like in rogers or sapphire phones, not stock google ones)
2. ???
3. profit
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lol an oldie but a goodie
honestly, to the OP, i'm not sure if you can push apps over adb to the hero. If you can, go and download haykuro 6.0r1. This is a "hero" rom, but in very early stages that I assume would run the stock apps from it on your hero. None of the hero apps at that stage were themed.
but remember, this is only if you can push apps to your hero over adb.
also, hate to say it, but the hero isn't rooted...
wait it has! mebbe i should buy one now... lol
jcarrz1 said:
also, hate to say it, but the hero isn't rooted...
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No somebody found it, but it is way too complicated. It requires a goldcard and this and that. Way too long of a guide for my way too short attention span.
Unless you have a Sprint Hero, but I didn't do a google search for that so I would
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Hi, I have tried nearly all roms on xda-dev. The Hero Rom rocks totally - still to slow on Magic...hope for some optimized Roms.
But, what about the great htc apps from Hero? there must be a way to get them on other roms... One has to be able to export them.
With the HTC apps you have not to much of this google-stuff onboard, possible to have your OWN calender and contacts etc. You have Ms Exchange and many more options...like taking of 3g-connection! No words about the camera, it's rockin!!!
So would be great to have some guys thinking the same and want to do something about that.
brianius
The main thing preventing the apps from being ported directly are the Hero specific add dependencies. The apps seem to make require different libraries than other roms, probably due to the high level of integration with Rosie and the Hero rom. As an example, Peep won't install since it's missing shared libraries.
Maybe once we can understand how the Hero rom is structured better, then we can start porting apps.
How about this as a starting point
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530572
Seems like a good place to start, I might have a go later if I have time, sure there is someone else who'll give it a crack.
My personal favs to port would be the music player, the browser, and maybe people. At least we'll have flash in October anyway so thats not worth it yet
Cyanogen has the Camera ported perfectly to his build for the Dream. I think we NEED this ported to the Sapphire. SOON!
Anyone know what dependencies we need?
I ported hero´s camera to ION ROM, but when you try to play a video in the gallery force closes.
BR
dazcox5181 said:
How about this as a starting point
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530572
Seems like a good place to start, I might have a go later if I have time, sure there is someone else who'll give it a crack.
My personal favs to port would be the music player, the browser, and maybe people. At least we'll have flash in October anyway so thats not worth it yet
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yeah, that's a great example! So will these days go back to a modified Vf. Rom and check my exported hero apps...
Standard disclaimer applies - figured I would put this just in case.
Okay, well first off I am going to start by explaining the thread title. EvilHero is basically what I call my device (evilvoice + hero) and this is a 2.1 Rom, I attached a .001 to let everyone know what stage it is in, which is the first stage. It works in what I set out for it to do. This is not for everyone, and may be only for me, but I am posting it here to get a little help and also to let other people decide for themselves if they want to use it.
This started because of Firerats MTD mod and CM6 and the inability to update my prl or do any ## codes. In using the MTD mod, CM6 RC1 only required around 105MB on system, but most 2.1 roms required a lot more space. While it is not hard to redo the whole MTD mod, it is very time consuming and you run the risk of messing up your phone until you get home, or at the very least, flash the rom you had on it before until you got home to a computer. I did a lot of searching for the smallest 2.1 rom around. This happened to be PureHero 2.1 by Konikub. I did not use any special tool to figure out size, just looked at how large the zip file was and went with the one that was the smallest, there might be smaller Sense 2.1 Roms out there, but thats what I used to select PureHero as my start.
Okay, so on to what I have done. Using PureHero 2.1 as the base, I ripped out everything except the ability to make phone calls, visual voicemail, SU, busybox, contacts, and the ability to use ## codes (including applying a MANUAL PRL update - for some reason, lost the Device Self Service tool in removing too much stuff, but no biggie since I can do a manual prl update). With this, I reduced the /system size to a mere 92.4MB...its even smaller than CM6 (a little misleading here, but I just meant that for the standard install that I was using of CM6, this rom was smaller, not that cm6 cant get smaller than this one). This is with GSD.apk on my system (but since removed in what I will be posting). It is quite stable after a first setup (meaning set your phone settings how you want them, you will probably get FCs and stuff, when done, reboot and you should not get the again except for the ones I am outlining below)
A couple of things to note:
Settings > Accounts & Sync FCs
Settings > Personalize > Default ringtone is the only thing under here that doesnt FC
Settings > Connect to PC even though it is here, it actually does nothing, even though I have the PCSCII.apk file (or whatever its called), it relies on more than just that file. Doesnt matter, I can still mount the sdcard in adb shell.
There is no market, text messaging, browser, email, video player, music player, youtube, email...like I said PHONE, ## codes, and that is PRETTY MUCH IT!
This was created to mainly be something to switch to do a prl update and switch back to CM6. Over my course of testing this rom, I have ditched the switching back to CM6. This is a modular rom - ADD WHAT YOU WANT! To give an idea: I added Opera for browser, Handcent for SMS (no MMS - need help!), K-9 for email, APKTor for market (yea not as great), I did end up adding Youtube back, andLess for music playing, have not decided on a pic viewer yet (havent even looked), Sprint Nav. Im not done adding stuff to mine, this is just what I have so far. None of these are included in the download as this is an "add your apps" rom - these are mine, you have a choice of what yours are. The only things outside of the basic Android system that is coming included is AndroZip, ADW Launcher - cause its damn near perfect, SuperUser by chainsdd, Visual Voicemail (everything but AndroZip was already included, I just updated them).
Some issues I would like help with to resolve
1. No MMS - HUGE ISSUE...maybe its because I took out MMS.apk...actually, I will put that back in and see what happens (for .002 - probably tomorrow night)
2. No market - HUGE...I never realized the benefit to the market until I had no access to it. There is nothing anywhere close to it. AppBrain requires market, so that wasnt going to be a replacement, APKTor was all I could find. My question is this: Can the market be put back in without too many google things being added back? What apk files have to be included for Market to work, I know it requires a google account. If I dont get any help, I guess I will figure it out myself, just wondering if anyone could take a look and help me out.
3. busybox can not be updated for some reason - also, when issuing a parameter on a command, it errors, but when busybox is put before, it works
Code:
df -h does not work
busybox df -h works
4. bash can not be added (or nano, remount) from the kitchen
5. Connect to computer does not work, I kept that stupid file...if its not gonna work, Im pulling the file.
6. Collins battery tweak does not work, I tested a Zen Kernel and still nothing, I guess it does not matter as I have almost everything turned off, the battery lasts a long time. Remember, adding stuff that uses data or GPS will drain the battery the same as any other rom, but this is made to compliment you...This is why I would like to get the battery tweak to work with it, so it will have better life when things get added.
Maybe people can reply with what they have added as their apps (some will be the same as it all depends on what you can find without a Market)
Credits:
Code:
Damageless (for such a great base)
Treve (for assisting D in everyway possible to put out a first class product)
Flipz (for the color sliders)
Darchstar (for AOSP aspects)
sdotcarlisle (for the amazing bootscreen)
gbhil (for his insanely awesome Kernels and overal GREATNESS)
JsChiSurf (for rocking the HERO HOUSE finding all these cool ways to change up things!!)
Avalaunchmods + TrevE (for the audio fix)
VinceOB - (for showing me good stuff)
Konikub (for putting together PureHero)
Most of this was copied from the PureHero post as he thanked them in that post, I feel since I used his as my base, I needed to thank the same people including him - If I did wrong, let me know
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I am putting both up, I would try the unsigned if you can flash it, for some reason (in my tests) the signed did not work as well as the unsigned. Also, this has MMS.apk added, it is untested, but really should work as I only removed the app. I will be doing my own test on this rom later tonight or tomorrow.
PS. I am not a developer, I just removed things, edited files in notepad++ and tested. If something does not work, please bear with me in finding out what caused it. As I said previously, a lot of stuff is removed, so expect that. The only FC's I experienced is one for putting the power control widget on the launcher (1 time), and the 2 places in settings. Thanks and let me know what you think
Nice concept, would love to see where this goes.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
Gtalk is needed to get the apps to download from the market.
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Macanage said:
Gtalk is needed to get the apps to download from the market.
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There is actually more stuff needed, but yea, gtalk is def needed. Its funny, someone in the G1 forum posted what it depended on, and besides one framework file, I removed everything else. I really hate the implementation of gtalk. It runs all the time and I dont use it. In the same G1 thread, the poster was talking about editing the package so it wasnt dependent on anything, I may have my programmer buddy take a look at it when he gets a chance to see if he can finish the work. If there was a way for the market to not need googleapps.apk or gtalk/service.apk I would be ecstatic, as it stands now, I dont see me putting the market back.
Also, Rom links have been posted
And actually, just for the sake of argument, I modified cm 6 and gapps to minimize the size on my phone, and I have it at 89 mb but sol full functionality. I even will have maps and nav and voice search and all, but on data partition only. In could shrink a lot more actually, but don't feel the need.
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cm6 has the ability to get real tiny...if I were to remove the same things, Id say itd be around 50-60mb (maybe im just dreaming here), the issue with cm6 is that fact it does not allow prl updating. I included the newest prl in the zip which gets dumped to your sdcard...j-i-c. Android 2.2 is smaller than 2.1 - there is no way a 2.1 rom will be smaller than 2.2 with the same functionality, it just wont happen, I know that, I just wanted a small 2.1 that did prl ...maybe sprint will release a 2.2 we can use...then I will look into slimming it down like I did this one.
This was never meant to go head to head with cm6...we are talking about 2 different systems - I guess I should have pointed that out...2.2 has the potential to be WAAAY smaller than even this one.
This is a great idea and Im going to watch your progress, Im hoping someday they figure out how to get prl updated on 2.2 Such a pain right now updating it. Thanks for your work!
If I can extract the Facebook for HTC Sense .apk and transfer it to my permanent rooted T-Mobile G2 (HTC Vision) running stock 2.2 android, would I be able to install it and use it on the phone even without HTC Sense? The only thing I want out of the Facebook for HTC Sense application is the ability to upload pictures and immediately tag people.
I am willing to try this out to see for myself if it works, but would like to see if anyone has already done this before I attempt this potentially fruitless/dangerous endeavor.
Also, I'm hoping to do the same for the HTC Camera. Is it possible to install the HTC Camera on stock 2.2 android simply by transferring and installing the .apk?
Thanks!
I have been wondering the same thing myself as I would like to take the weather and facebook sense apps from my HTC Incredible and put them on my girlfriend's LG Ally.
I'm not sure if the *.apk for the particular app is all that is needed or if there is a sense "framework" that is also needed.
Didn't work
For those who are interested, I tried it and it did not work. I got an error after clicking [Install]. Based on other posts, the applications do need the "Sense Framework" to work properly.
It looks like there are some tweaks that can be done to get certain applications running (like I know the Desire camera was ported to the Nexus on a MoDaCo ROM) but I'm not sure if this is possible for all apps. It's definitely beyond my knowledge at this point.
@jervill, Thank you for taking the time to post that information.
That has helped to answer one set of questions but also opened the door to another set.
answers the question .
ffxiv gil
I hate to sound like a pessimist, but don't bother. HTC applications are waaaay to dependent on the Sense framework and won't run (mostly won't even install). It's not like Touchwiz, which is just another apk you can install on any phone.
Hi guys,
I rooted my phone and have been using Cyanogen since and never looked back. The phone works like charm, and with 2.2.1 installed, they keyboard is much better and I can actually use the phone for dialing (the number pad doesn't get stuck!)
I looked in the form but my search brings back hundreds of results that do not seem related to what I need. Cyan comes with some apps I simply do not ever use: The car home one, terminal emulator, DSPMAnager (what is it anyway?) and the voice dialer. First, are any of these apps are needed to run the phone, and can I re-install them separately (without reloading the whole ROM) if something goes wrong? Then, the question is, how do I uninstall them, since I do not have an uninstall option? Is it possible to uninstall Google Talk (because I think it comes as a part of the Google Tools or whatever...), since it does not allow me to log in for more than one account?
Then, I have a more general question:
Is Cyan with gingerbread available from the HTC Hero? Would you guys recommend it? I don't feel I really need it because the phone is fine, but maybe I'm missing out on something I do not know... what are the big new things, besides the keyboard (which I understand can be installed individually anyway).
Thanks!
Use titanium backup it uninstalls stock apps. But be careful which ones u uninstall they will mess ur phone up and cause foreclosures
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
beholder121 said:
Hi guys,
I rooted my phone and have been using Cyanogen since and never looked back. The phone works like charm, and with 2.2.1 installed, they keyboard is much better and I can actually use the phone for dialing (the number pad doesn't get stuck!)
I looked in the form but my search brings back hundreds of results that do not seem related to what I need. Cyan comes with some apps I simply do not ever use: The car home one, terminal emulator, DSPMAnager (what is it anyway?) and the voice dialer. First, are any of these apps are needed to run the phone, and can I re-install them separately (without reloading the whole ROM) if something goes wrong? Then, the question is, how do I uninstall them, since I do not have an uninstall option? Is it possible to uninstall Google Talk (because I think it comes as a part of the Google Tools or whatever...), since it does not allow me to log in for more than one account?
Then, I have a more general question:
Is Cyan with gingerbread available from the HTC Hero? Would you guys recommend it? I don't feel I really need it because the phone is fine, but maybe I'm missing out on something I do not know... what are the big new things, besides the keyboard (which I understand can be installed individually anyway).
Thanks!
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1. Like the above poster said, use titanium backup to uninstall. It's free in the market. All four of those apps can be removed with no ill effects, however, I would keep terminal emulator in case you ever need to push our pull apk's, decide to use the batt-tweak. Stuff like that. DSPManager is a equalizer.
2. Yes, gb is available in cyanogenmod flavor right here: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=heroc It had some minor lag issues with the home screen, but camera and gps is working for me. Not sure if compcache and jit is, though.
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user7618 said:
1. Like the above poster said, use titanium backup to uninstall. It's free in the market. All four of those apps can be removed with no ill effects, however, I would keep terminal emulator in case you ever need to push our pull apk's, decide to use the batt-tweak. Stuff like that. DSPManager is a equalizer.
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I'd watch out for Google Talk though...doesn't that break some push notifications (i.e. Gmail)? Could be wrong, have been before
Off the top of my head without looking at a fresh install, these are safe to remove without doing anything special (I dont have any of them):
DSP, Protips, PacMan, FileManager, email (if you only use the gmail app), Live Wallpaper Picker, CMStats, CM Wallpaper, Latin tutorial, Development, Theme Chooser (and the other theme apk along with the two themes preloaded in the /system/app folder), Spare Parts, ROM Manager...If you want to know about any others, just ask...there are far more I have removed, but like I said, they are gone, so I don't remember them
how about fotakill? don't know what it does, so I didn't remove it.
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FOTAKILL i believe is the cyanogen updater, do a google search
I removed it with no issues.
-- Sent from my Sprint SuperHero --
Here's link from Cyanogen wiki that gives a list of apps and some details about them - like what they are, can they be removed and such. Also, it documents ways to remove apps.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones.
ranger61878 said:
I'd watch out for Google Talk though...doesn't that break some push notifications (i.e. Gmail)? Could be wrong, have been before
Off the top of my head without looking at a fresh install, these are safe to remove without doing anything special (I dont have any of them):
DSP, Protips, PacMan, FileManager, email (if you only use the gmail app), Live Wallpaper Picker, CMStats, CM Wallpaper, Latin tutorial, Development, Theme Chooser (and the other theme apk along with the two themes preloaded in the /system/app folder), Spare Parts, ROM Manager...If you want to know about any others, just ask...there are far more I have removed, but like I said, they are gone, so I don't remember them
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No, I think you may be right. For whatever reason, I was thinking google voice, which isn't even part of the gapps or cm apps. Leave talk installed.
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If you delete Google Voice Search, you will need something else (Vlingo, etc.) in order to have a mic on your keyboard I believe.
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Wow thanks for all the responses guys.. I installed some apps and so far I'm good. Now I just need to figure out how to get my dial pad to show up after it turns off during a phone call.
beholder121 said:
Wow thanks for all the responses guys.. I installed some apps and so far I'm good. Now I just need to figure out how to get my dial pad to show up after it turns off during a phone call.
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Press the menu key.
-- Sent from my Sprint SuperHero --
Given under my hand this 12th day of August 2011, I hereby post a bounty of $100 for a ROM build for the Samsung/T-Mobile Sidekick 4G (AOSP?) that functions, and will allow me to sync e-mail from Exchange @ work.
I) This will have to have a non-Touchwiz/Samsung Dialer (contacts in same window, not open a new one, like on Droid1 [Vanilla?]), and not have any of the Bull known to be associated with the WHACKNESS that is typically seen on this phone with Stock.
II) It will be running Launcher Pro, so must work as such.
III) Another requirement is that when a page is loading, and you scroll at the same time, the BS Checkers are not showing (I think this is TouchWiz/Samsung specific, so shouldn't be a problem), if I wanted the checkers when scrolling, I'd have an iPhruity device.
IV) As staed above it will have to pull e-mail from an e-mail app (email.apk?) from MS Exchange server from the drop down notification without a FC.
*EDIT*:
V) Calendar must allow multiple notifications (from the app), and actually notify as such.
*/EDIT*
*MUCHO EDITO*
VI) PATTERN Lockscreen must be the only one. Not doubled. (No Shade lockscreen 1st if pattern is enabled, I need the pattern!)
*/MUCHO EDITO*
I am hoping this is kosher to post a bounty, but I detest TouchWiz, Samsung's dialer (phone.apk), etc.
I am looking to get something like Cyanogen's Vanilla builds.
I haven't coded anything since Borland's/MS C for DOS, so I cannot do this myself.
Hopefully I can get some takers, and they can better this phone for the community.
I assume the source is out there, just need to be compiled. Several ROMs are very good, but all have Samsung's TouchWiz elements, seeking to avoid that.
Thank you for your time!
i like that you're going at! i know that if you use oprea mobile browser you dont get the bs checker boarding. its a very good browser check it out
sduvick is working on a stock dialer i believe its on his long list of work!
also he is trying to port cm6 which is helpful
im sure someone can get this working and will be easier if we get a gingerbread leak.
We can't get a AOSP Vanilla ROM there are no leak's of gingerbread so we can't get anything beside's TouchWiz but if i was you try out my ROM "Light'ning ROM V2" It has the vanilla feeling .
the86d said:
Given under my hand this 12th day of August 2011, I hereby post a bounty of $100 for a ROM build for the Samsung/T-Mobile Sidekick 4G (AOSP?) that functions, and will allow me to sync e-mail from Exchange @ work.
I) This will have to have a non-Touchwiz/Samsung Dialer (contacts in same window, not open a new one, like on Droid1 [Vanilla?]), and not have any of the Bull known to be associated with the WHACKNESS that is typically seen on this phone with Stock.
II) It will be running Launcher Pro, so must work as such.
III) Another requirement is that when a page is loading, and you scroll at the same time, the BS Checkers are not showing (I think this is TouchWiz/Samsung specific, so shouldn't be a problem), if I wanted the checkers when scrolling, I'd have an iPhruity device.
IV) As staed above it will have to pull e-mail from an e-mail app (email.apk?) from MS Exchange server from the drop down notification without a FC.
*EDIT*:
V) Calendar must allow multiple notifications (from the app), and actually notify as such.
*/EDIT*
I am hoping this is kosher to post a bounty, but I detest TouchWiz, Samsung's dialer (phone.apk), etc.
I am looking to get something like Cyanogen's Vanilla builds.
I haven't coded anything since Borland's/MS C for DOS, so I cannot do this myself.
Hopefully I can get some takers, and they can better this phone for the community.
I assume the source is out there, just need to be compiled. Several ROMs are very good, but all have Samsung's TouchWiz elements, seeking to avoid that.
Thank you for your time!
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This phone is really crippled, even with the AWESOME Custom ROMs posted here, and MANY are VERY good.
The issue is features that were not thought about when Samsung screwed up their TouchWiz version of Android for this phone. Calender not able to add multiple notifications, or not notifying via the 1st one if two were added prior (via gmail or a functional phone), Phone.apk not having built-in Contacts section, etc.
tylermaciaszek said:
i like that you're going at! i know that if you use oprea mobile browser you dont get the bs checker boarding. its a very good browser check it out
sduvick is working on a stock dialer i believe its on his long list of work!
also he is trying to port cm6 which is helpful
im sure someone can get this working and will be easier if we get a gingerbread leak.
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Revolution said:
We can't get a AOSP Vanilla ROM there are no leak's of gingerbread so we can't get anything beside's TouchWiz but if i was you try out my ROM "Light'ning ROM V2" It has the vanilla feeling .
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It too is very good, but the dialer is still without the built-in contacts that is VERY efficient, and the calender is still touchwiz crippled.
I was late to an appointment due to this and the mentioned ROM.
Revolution said:
We can't get a AOSP Vanilla ROM there are no leak's of gingerbread so we can't get anything beside's TouchWiz but if i was you try out my ROM "Light'ning ROM V2" It has the vanilla feeling .
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he didnt say it has to be GB, just AOSP. and Sduvick has quite some projects on his hands atm but an AOSP build is definitely one of them
ayoteddy said:
he didnt say it has to be GB, just AOSP. and Sduvick has quite some projects on his hands atm but an AOSP build is definitely one of them
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Nice, I am treading very badly right now!
Are there better leaks with MotoPhones or something?
Those came out all the time, solid and fully featured.
(FYI: Currently running your TouchMIUIwiz v2.0 ROM, 'Tis very nice.)
I would gladly drop the $75 for a new T-Mobile phone with a larger screen (since I am in my 30 Day trial for a few more days) but no other QWERTY w/dedicated number phones avail, and the stock on those will probably have the same issues...
Sduvick is building CM6 / 2.2 i herd , but i doubt that'll be any time soon cause he's busy with other thing's prob .
ayoteddy said:
he didnt say it has to be GB, just AOSP. and Sduvick has quite some projects on his hands atm but an AOSP build is definitely one of them
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Revolution said:
Sduvick is building CM6 / 2.2 i herd , but i doubt that'll be any time soon cause he's busy with other thing's prob .
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Lol i just said that.. CM6 is an AOSP build
We can get AOSP, it will just be AOSP 2.2.
This just jumped to the top of my list, I shall begin the challenge as soon as my Kernel finishes compiling.
As far as your list goes, let me make sure that I've got everything figured out:
I) This will have to have a non-Touchwiz/Samsung Dialer[\QUOTE]
This shouldn't be an issue, as an AOSP build will have the AOSP dialer, rather than Touchwiz.
II) It will be running Launcher Pro, so must work as such. [\QUOTE]
I use Launcher Pro myself, wouldn't dream of letting anything release without it working.
III) Another requirement is that when a page is loading, and you scroll at the same time, the BS Checkers are not showing (I think this is TouchWiz/Samsung specific, so shouldn't be a problem), if I wanted the checkers when scrolling, I'd have an iPhruity device.[\QUOTE]
I'll have to check in with you when I get it built to see what that part is doing, I'm not familiar with this, but I'm guessing it would be fixed by AOSP
IV) As staed above it will have to pull e-mail from an e-mail app (email.apk?) from MS Exchange server from the drop down notification without a FC. [\QUOTE]
Should work, if I remember correctly it worked right in AOSP
*EDIT*:
V) Calendar must allow multiple notifications (from the app), and actually notify as such.
*/EDIT*[\QUOTE]
If this works in AOSP, it should work, never tested I suppose, but could be wrong.
*MUCHO EDITO*
VI) PATTERN Lockscreen must be the only one. Not doubled. (No Shade lockscreen 1st if pattern is enabled, I need the pattern!)
*/MUCHO EDITO*[\QUOTE]
there won't be any doubled, pattern should be no issue. (Misread that the first time, thought you wanted puzzle :])
let me know if you had anything else on your mind you wanted in it.
too lazy to fix quotes
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I've been wanting to do this for quite some time as well. The only issue is being a full time student without a job makes putting up any sort of "bounty" just for some improvements is not possible.
However, I do have some spare cash and will toss all of it towards whoever breaks out an AOSP rom.
Good luck.
Meanwhile, me being a fulltime student who wants to get married, any extra payday sounds incredibly enticing ;]
Just to clarify, I want it as close to AOSP as possible.
Then, from that point, as much of it to work in landscape (EG: lockscreen) as possible.
And of course, any improvements like supercharge, voodoo, and so on.
I say improvements because I want just that. No changes.
I figure specifics aren't too important, because I can always tweek it from there or ask for what I'm not capable of.
Current unallocated money in my bank is just over 15$ xD
But with you already making the AOSP ROM, I figure it won't take too much effort from you.
I'm excited :3
Well, compiling AOSP, rather than just making an AOSP rom is very different. making an AOSP rom is just a matter of theming some things and pulling certain apps, where compiling an AOSP rom is more like building a kernel, where you have to compile the system from the source.
Whenever I see or use the words "AOSP ROM" it's always related to a ROM that is built entirely from the source code. Unless otherwise specified.
AOSP themed stuff, and AOSP apps are of course, just that. But when I say AOSP ROM, I mean a true AOSP ROM.
If there's something I'm missing, please let me know!
That's what I'm working on, theming is lame anyways, doesn't do what you really want it to. but because I have to compile it and screw with the source it may take a bit, it's my current project though and I'm starting now.
I am not sure if this helps but I have a non-rooted phone and hae "Go Contacts EX" (Contact Manager and LANDSCAPE Phone dialer) & "Business Calendar Free" (Calendar Replacemets - more like Google Calendar for Desktop Web)
These are much more feature-rich than the stock apps.
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I am not sure if this helps but I have a non-rooted phone and hae "Go Contacts EX" (Contact Manager and LANDSCAPE Phone dialer) & "Business Calendar Free" (Calendar Replacemets - more like Google Calendar for Desktop Web)
These are much more feature-rich than the stock apps.
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your not rooted why? so much more potential in the device
YES!!!
Alpha ETA? Hahahaaa!
KIDDING!
In case all you developers here are unaware, YOU BELONG IN THE ANDROID BIBLE!
the86d said:
YES!!!
Alpha ETA? Hahahaaa!
KIDDING!
In case all you developers here are unaware, YOU BELONG IN THE ANDROID BIBLE!
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they really do they put so much work into our devices!