This is not a fix to get the drop down box working like in winmo 6.1/6.5 but it is a fix to be able to launch the task manager from nearly anywhere without having to launch the anything. I thought that it'd be great if I could write a program that let you gesture from anywhere in the phone to launch an app. But I don't have the skill and with every great idea I have someone has already thought of it. So I google searched and got an answer.
The program is called, FTouchSL, I am running the trail version currently but it costs 10 Euro. So about +/- $15. I like it so far and it works great. (You can find the older 'Free' Beta versions by searching.)
What this does is allow you to set 'gestures' and gesture areas that will allow you to launch any program you want, almost anywhere in your phone. For instance, I have mine set up to use two gesture motions to do 2 different thnings.
The first is, up and left, which launches "Showcase" those of you with Shadoline's latest ROMs will know that this is a new task manager. (I think from HTC. I'm not sure) I love this cause now I can access the task manager without leaving the current program im in. No wasted time. I can also easily go back to a proggram I previously had open whilst I'm in another. Say I wan't to go back to Opera after reading a txt message. Do the swipe, taskman opens and bam back to Opera. No need to got find it in the start menue or the home screen.
The second gesture I have set up is, up and right, which minimizes the program. I love that I could set it to minimize because it's just convinient. Lets say I get a txt and I'm in Opera. We all know (Those with 6.5.1) that you have to click the tab, then the main menue button, then exit then yes. Well the problem with this is that Opera is now shut down all the way. Sure you could hit the end button but makng a gesture is so much more... well.... Magical!
I may add a, Down and Right, motion to send me to my txt messages since clicking on the task bar only lets you see the message and not actually go to it. There are a total of 8 gestures that can be set up and 4 'Hot Corner' buttons.
A Warning - You may have to play with the settings a bit to get this to work right for you. I suggest making the bottom gesture area taller than the Manila Tabs if your using manila or higher than the bottom bar if not. And start the gesture above the Tabs or Bottom bar. For the left and right areas I founf that 80px works well. and set the Delay to 2000 ms or more if you want to. Or else you will have to be very quick about makeing the gesture.
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Another question..!
Second to the top bar, I have phoneAlarm running. Is it possible to 'freeze' this (or any other) plugin whilst the rest scroll as normal?
Something similar to 'freeze panes'; 'split window' in MS Excel/Word
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Generally no. But check out OdeeanRDeathshead's plugin. It's a genius solution for his plugin.
Others - I have other solutions in mind, but not for release yet
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It could probably be done. I think the easiest way would be to keep track of scrolling of the today window and force an order change in the items to keep the one of interest on top. The work would come when trying to avoid sudden movements after the change and automaticly scrolling the window back to the position you had it when the today screen resets.
Or perhaps someone could find out how the date stays stationary?
personaly I think that microsoft did the wrong thing allowing scrolling. The purpose of the today screen is to have something always visible not to let it go out of sight.
Yes, I was thinking of something like how the date line was acheived to be static...
In fact, for me, having a particular today plugin static would be because I have to scroll to view my full Today screen. Stuff like appointments and tasks are unpredictable in size- therefore changing the length of that particular plugin and of course shifting anything underneath out of site.
I have a little problem regarding the size of the desktop / Today screen on my PDA (Wizard @ WM6).
When I connect my PDA to my PC with AS, additional icon appears in the tray (even though I removed init_tray.lnk) - but that's not the problem itself.
The problem is that additional sliding bar appears on the right side of the screen. The Today plugins do not fit the Desktop anymore, so all the contents of Today is "squezzed" and moved a little bit to the left to make space for the sliding bar.
When I disconnect, the icon & additional bar disappear but the Today items do not go back to fill the whole screen, but keep "squeezed" :O I haven't managed to find any option to refresh Today screen in order to make it filled with the plugins again.
Can anyone tell me how to fix this, please?
Its a long shot, but if you were to go to Settings->Today-> Items, and click on ok (without doing much there), most of the plugins will refresh.
You could try this.....
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Its a long shot, but if you were to go to Settings->Today-> Items, and click on ok (without doing much there), most of the plugins will refresh.
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That would almost certainly work - if you fancy a few less taps to achieve the same result, then there is a program that should (not tested it myself, so not 100% sure!) do the job for you.
Get it from http://www.shubaroo.com/index.php?module=refresh_today - the author, t0flus, is an xda-devs member (his Group SMS app is posted on one of the forums), so he may be able to offer assistance if needed.
I'm guessing all you'd need to do is to copy the exe onto your phone and stick a shortcut to it in your programs menu.
Cheers,
Mark.
I have the same problem on mine and all I do is slide the keyboard out about halfway so it changes the screen to landscape and then slide it back in and everything goes back to the way it was before. No software needed.
Alright so a few quirks with the Cruise to see if anyone else has ideas or comments on this:
1) Clicking on the Mail icon in HTC Home has a delay before opening up the Account Selection screen. If I map the Messaging App to a button or launch it directly it opens super quick. So what gives, why is the Home plugin taking much longer to launch Messaging?
2) Phone dialer skin lag. This really annoys me when I see the screen getting painted when bringing up the dialer. I mean it's a phone, of all things why can't this work nicely. Other things work really smooth, why this?
3) Comm Manager exit. We all know it doesn't really exit and is probably a WM6 issue. Even when you click the exit soft button. The reason this is also annoying is because if the Comm Manager is launched for the first time, it opens up nicely without different parts of the screen getting painted. However if it's in memory and launched again, you see it painting different sections of the screen. If I go in and kill it and start it up again, no painting on the screen. What gives? How can I ensure that pressing exit actually stops the application?
Thanks!
Anyone have a solution to any of these quirks?
Alright, I will try bumping this thread one more time in the chance that someone might have some input on at least items 1 & 2. I have heard that item 3 might be solved by some of the ROMs out there, maybe bepe's.
With regards to point 2, I don't have a solution but I would imagine if there was a way to keep the phone dialer in memory and running in the background once its been opened for the first time - it may resolve the issue. i.e if it wasn't closed competely when it was finished with ...just an idea, not sure how you could implement it - will have to have a play.
Actually I find that's not always the case. For example the CommManager does the exact opposite. When the Comm Manager is in memory and you call it up again is when I see the screen painting slowly. If I am calling it for the first time is when it displays the screen in one shot.
At this point I don't care if icons show on the top bar (love it but I can settle for something else). I just want to be able to see and close software that is up and the HTC task manager loves to hide it. Thanks!
segadc said:
At this point I don't care if icons show on the top bar (love it but I can settle for something else). I just want to be able to see and close software that is up and the HTC task manager loves to hide it. Thanks!
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PRBar works great. I have been using it for a while. (Since the HTC Wizard) It shows up with drop down arrow where the clock would be. It also has the ability to show you the free ram, and time on the taskbar. It has a tiny footprint too so you dont have to worry about a memory hog. I have noticed that on some builds it can slow manila down so check it out and if it works ok, if it doesn't just delete the exe file (after you close pbar of course). All you have to do is run the exe file and tap the options to enable it to run after a soft reset among other options. Hope you like it.
Thanks. I did try it but I didn't like that is was sort of hard to click on the tiny icon. I am thinking I would just take some programs off of the exclusive list on HTC task manager. Gotta find which ones that will be safe (definetly want to do activesync/repog or whatever).
What problem/conflict are you having with wkTask? I've used it for a long time and I'm wondering what sort of problem you're having.
It would close the start menu and I wouldn't be able to get settings. I think I did a fix for it but then I forgot if something else went wrong. I might try again though.
oh yeah Start menu would show up even when I said to hide it. It would hide it but then show up again. It was annoying. would love if someone took over it and get it working perfectly with 6.5
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Thanks. I did try it but I didn't like that is was sort of hard to click on the tiny icon. I am thinking I would just take some programs off of the exclusive list on HTC task manager. Gotta find which ones that will be safe (definetly want to do activesync/repog or whatever).
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I know what you are talking about but you don't have to tap precisely on the downward arrow. Just tap and hold next to that arrow on the empty space on the taskbar and it brings up the menu. I never even touch that arrow...lol. Maybe that will make it more useful for you...lol.
I love WKTask but it hasn't been updated in a long time. It closes Start if you hit X in the start menu on 6.5 and you have to reboot the phone to get it back. I love how easy it is to switch between tasks using it though and the battery bar at the top.
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I know what you are talking about but you don't have to tap precisely on the downward arrow. Just tap and hold next to that arrow on the empty space on the taskbar and it brings up the menu. I never even touch that arrow...lol. Maybe that will make it more useful for you...lol.
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Oh lol did not try that. I switched back to HTC task manager and getting real used to it now. But I might check out pbar again with those important instructions.
rsbrown here is how you fix that problem. I still don't like that the start menu shows up (even when I hide it, it comes back( so I am done with wktask...
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/pocket-pc/resolved-wktask-cloding-start-menu-on-wm6.5-issue.html
Hey bro i get this app from the market Honeybar it work great with root access.
I work with touchwiz work 100%.
Program tested MX Video Player,Dolphin Browser HD.
It works well and I suggest using Button Savior in conjunction. Barely seen my taskbar in a week
Works pretty well, main problems I have with it are accidentally re-enabling the taskbar in games (tapping near the bottom), and also accidentally hiding it when trying to hit the 'menu' button in portrait mode. They're too close together so it's hard to avoid hitting it.
I asked the author about the possibility of other trigger locations, or gestures, and he responded but didn't sound like he planned to do anything soon.
I installed HB myself, and although it is nice in some ways to get the taskbar (I use that reference with tongue'in'cheeck) out of the way, there are too many apps I have that place "menu" in the location of the hidden button even when I set it to shift left. Many apps I have to rotate to landscape to get to the apps settings menu hidden behind the shift-left positioning for HB. It's just not a sound UI choice.
The option to just leave the taskbar hidden and use Button Savior is better, but it's like using one hack to make another one work halfway correctly in its effects. HB needs more development and it doesn't look like it's going to happen as of now.
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It works well and I suggest using Button Savior in conjunction. Barely seen my taskbar in a week
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Thanks very much for your info. Yeah... this Button Savior is a real true name in case of the HoneyBar's gone somewhere..
Problem I see with using Button Savior all the time is that you do lose the notifications.. and then it's still easy to accidentally bring back the real bar when playing games etc. Oh well.
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Problem I see with using Button Savior all the time is that you do lose the notifications.. and then it's still easy to accidentally bring back the real bar when playing games etc. Oh well.
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I don't know about the games... the notification is hiding except the sound but the real trouble is when the call is coming.... you have to activate the task bar to bring back the panel "Answer or Denied" (!!!)
FYI
speedrabbit said:
Problem I see with using Button Savior all the time is that you do lose the notifications.. and then it's still easy to accidentally bring back the real bar when playing games etc. Oh well.
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I did indeed get quite angry at the loss of notifications but I was able to (sort of) get around that by changing the screen density to 171 using Blade Buddy. This set me back to a 2.x launcher.
It doesn't really work 100% however as browser, Gmail, Google Talk will constantly crash. I was able to work around the browser by just getting another browser and Gmail by uninstalling the Honeycomb version of Gmail and installing the Gingerbread version. I didn't care enough to do anything more than uninstall Google Talk.
On the positive side I no longer have to deal with the taskbar. Ever.
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I was able to work around the browser by just getting another browser and Gmail by uninstalling the Honeycomb version of Gmail and installing the Gingerbread version.
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Does the Gingerbread version have the Gingerbread UI? i.e. without the multi-paned stuff? I tried loading a Gingerbread version a while back but it didn't work (just crashed). I prefer Gingerbread style -- more room for the content rather than lists of labels.
Sigilist said:
I installed HB myself, and although it is nice in some ways to get the taskbar (I use that reference with tongue'in'cheeck) out of the way, there are too many apps I have that place "menu" in the location of the hidden button even when I set it to shift left. Many apps I have to rotate to landscape to get to the apps settings menu hidden behind the shift-left positioning for HB. It's just not a sound UI choice.
The option to just leave the taskbar hidden and use Button Savior is better, but it's like using one hack to make another one work halfway correctly in its effects. HB needs more development and it doesn't look like it's going to happen as of now.
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Yes this is exactly my only issue with honeybar. it would be nice if we could choose the right side as the "offset". Even in portrait I have space just to the right of center that would allow access to honeybar on/off and not interfere with the menu on a lot of apps.
There's a much better way to do this. Using tasker, I have a profile set up that auto hides the toolbar for certain apps and then restores it automatically when I switch away from them.
Follow the instructions in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301857
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Yes but how do you switch away from them?
That is actually what I am trying to figure out how to do. I am trying to set it up when in specific apps it takes away the task bar but also only within these apps after something... (haven't really figured that out yet) happens it will bring it back for an exit. In a perfect world I would love to be able to press both volume buttons to close an app. Which in this case would be perfect but tasker can't do that...
I'm using task switcher pro. It lets you map a gesture to the back button or home button.
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what might be cool is to "shake" device to bring back the bar.
you guy also can use AutomateIt... kind of like tasker but to me it more friendly user...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123423
and the pro version is cheaper too...
Using tasker I did manage to make the bar go away by shaking. Instead of setting programs to do it make it toggle the bar by using a shake. I don't have it in front of me to do step by step but if someone wants me to I can put it up.
I would most certainly love to see that "How too" Zadeis.
Thanks.
Here you go!
gucabe said:
I would most certainly love to see that "How too" Zadeis.
Thanks.
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OK the link smaug408 put up leads to a guide on how to set up a task that when an App starts it will remove the bar at the bottom. The thing is though you no longer have a back button and get out of the app unless it has a dedicated exit button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301857
I take no credit for the premade files for tasker. The thanks goes to the creator Quietthinker through that link.
-First Open the link and download the attached StatusBarToggle.zip and place the files into /sdcard/Tasker/tasks (in this case you will only need the StatusBarToggle.tsk.xml, the StatusBar_Hide.tsk.xml, and the StatusBar_Show.tsk.xml files)
-Second open tasker and go to the "tasks tab" and tap and hold the Tasks Tab at the top. An options window will come up but select Import and import all of them into tasker
-Third go to the profiles tab and tap the Green plus at the left and give it a name. ShakeToToggle can work but you can name it whatever you like.
A context window will popup and you will select Event and then the Sensor Category and finally select the Shake Event.
You can mess around with the setting for the shake gesture now or tweak it in to your liking after everything is set up up to you.
-Forth once you have the setting you like press the green check mark, select the StatusBarToggle task and you are done. Now when you shake your tablet side to side it will make the status bar go away.
Now I just happened to figure out that you can shake instead of using an app for the context. I take little credit for how this works.
This method requires Super User Permissions. It will ask on the first toggle of the bar if you allow it to remember it afterward, if not it will ask each time.
Great app. Works perfectly