Does anyone know of any VirtualBox Android Emulator that has Marketplace?
Thanks!
Oh, I forgot to add "that's free" and not the $50 that some cheeky bastards are trying to charge for a thing called AndroidVM!
iridium21 said:
Does anyone know of any VirtualBox Android Emulator that has Marketplace?
Thanks!
Oh, I forgot to add "that's free" and not the $50 that some cheeky bastards are trying to charge for a thing called AndroidVM!
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Android doesn't just load up and run on a PC. It's a source code project that a real developer has to spend time porting from platform to platform, unless you want to run it from a runtime built from the SDK. To do that requires an underlying OS, like Windows, Linux a MAC - something capable of running the SDK.
Since, VMware is emulating a PC, then in order to run as a real virtual machine, android needs to be pretty much ported to a PC. Since Android is built on a Linux kernel, it's not impossible, but geese - why? That said, it's bound to show up on an Intel compatible tablet at some point, if it hasn't already.
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Android doesn't just load up and run on a PC. It's a source code project that a real developer has to spend time porting from platform to platform, unless you want to run it from a runtime built from the SDK. To do that requires an underlying OS, like Windows, Linux a MAC - something capable of running the SDK.
Since, VMware is emulating a PC, then in order to run as a real virtual machine, android needs to be pretty much ported to a PC. Since Android is built on a Linux kernel, it's not impossible, but geese - why? That said, it's bound to show up on an Intel compatible tablet at some point, if it hasn't already.
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I'm already running Android under Virtualbox - I just wondered if there's a version for VB that has Marketplace.
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Android doesn't just load up and run on a PC. It's a source code project that a real developer has to spend time porting from platform to platform, unless you want to run it from a runtime built from the SDK. To do that requires an underlying OS, like Windows, Linux a MAC - something capable of running the SDK.
Since, VMware is emulating a PC, then in order to run as a real virtual machine, android needs to be pretty much ported to a PC. Since Android is built on a Linux kernel, it's not impossible, but geese - why? That said, it's bound to show up on an Intel compatible tablet at some point, if it hasn't already.
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Wow. So much complete and utter wrong in one post... I've been running Android under a virtual machine for quite a while...
There is an x86 version of Android available at androidx86.org
It will definitely run under Virtual Box or any other virtualization software package. It's Android 1.6 by the way, and you will have to perform some geek-like activities to simulate an SD-card to install appz.
Big question is whether an ARM-device version of Android would work in a normal VM emulator (not talking about Bochs and stuff).
FloatingFatMan said:
Wow. So much complete and utter wrong in one post... I've been running Android under a virtual machine for quite a while...
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Well, since I hadn't heard of a port to x86, I was certainly wrong about that, which makes the rest of the post moot, but not wrong. In any event, I stand corrected.
sorry to add a flame of any kind but this
"Since, VMware is emulating a PC, then in order to run as a real virtual machine, android needs to be pretty much ported to a PC. Since Android is built on a Linux kernel, it's not impossible, but geese - why? That said, it's bound to show up on an Intel compatible tablet at some point, if it hasn't already."
is totally wrong.
Virtual machines virtualise the hardware of your machine (bad explanation I KNOW). if you have a PowerPC you can only emulate PowerPC (Mac for those that dont know) and intel/amd chips are things like x86 then theres smaller devices like ARM. my point is that if you have a Intel/amd box you can only emulate x86 O/S. however if you have a netbook with a version of linux or windows built on arm arch then u could prob get away with the original android if you are running normal x86 then u require android that has been built from source on x86.
this made me laugh
"Since Android is built on a Linux kernel, it's not impossible"
all i can say is what??
anyway back to the point... to run android on a x86 box u need x86 android
The problem with getting the Market to work is simply that the GApps are currently only available in a compiled for ARM version. period. that's the answer you wanted to hear i guess.
@others: stop OTing please...
hvc123 said:
sorry to add a flame of any kind but this
"Since, VMware is emulating a PC, then in order to run as a real virtual machine, android needs to be pretty much ported to a PC. Since Android is built on a Linux kernel, it's not impossible, but geese - why? That said, it's bound to show up on an Intel compatible tablet at some point, if it hasn't already."
is totally wrong.
Virtual machines virtualise the hardware of your machine (bad explanation I KNOW). if you have a PowerPC you can only emulate PowerPC (Mac for those that dont know) and intel/amd chips are things like x86 then theres smaller devices like ARM. my point is that if you have a Intel/amd box you can only emulate x86 O/S. however if you have a netbook with a version of linux or windows built on arm arch then u could prob get away with the original android if you are running normal x86 then u require android that has been built from source on x86.
this made me laugh
"Since Android is built on a Linux kernel, it's not impossible"
all i can say is what??
anyway back to the point... to run android on a x86 box u need x86 android
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VMware and Virtualbox emulate PC hardware. Since Android runs on a Linux kernel, and Linux was originally developed for an x86 PC, it follows that a port of Android could be done for a PC. Since this was not a generic discussion about virtual machines but a specific discussion about PC emulation, I don't see where the argument is.
PC = x86 and it's successors. You said I was totally wrong and then pretty much made my case. The only point I missed is that the work had already been done. To run Android in a x86 (PC) VM, you'll need an X86 (PC) compatible version of Android - right - what I said.
Right... Ok, now does anyone know the answer to the original question?
the_fish said:
The problem with getting the Market to work is simply that the GApps are currently only available in a compiled for ARM version. period. that's the answer you wanted to hear i guess.
@others: stop OTing please...
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OP should read your thread.
arctu said:
OP should read your thread.
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I have
Supposedly, these guys have Android with Marketplace for VirtualBox:
http://www.androidvm.com/home
So it must be able to be done - the only problem is that it's $49.95!
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zgornz said:
They state they are running Ubuntu in a VM, then installed the Android emulator in Ubuntu, then the android emulator is setup to have the Marketplace. The android emulator is doing the ARM emulation.
I think using qemu User Mode emulation it might be possible to actually launch the Marketplace and apps via android-x86 without using a phone emulator. Not sure it would be that valuable, but it would allow lots more apps on a netbook running Android.
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I imagine it would be a mess to get a touch screen working in android running on an emulator.
I read reviews on androidx86 booted (not emulated) on a few netbooks that ran great and very responsive..I also read one on a touch screen comp that worked fine..they claim all apps work-minus gapps obviously.
I plan on trying this on my Toshiba nb205 netbook today and can post a review if anyone is interested..
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A review would sure be appreciated. More knowledge is always better.
Just a quick follow up, I tried out the Androidx86 on my netbook this weekend, both booted off the usb and installed on the hd..it runs..nothing spectacular and slightly dissappointing. You still only have a 4x4 screen and the Marketplace is entirely different, very small selection of "blah" apps..none of my favorite android apps anyways-facebook,twitter,gmail..not really any widgets either. Lastly, you need to use an external mouse..the touchpad just moves the background but gives you no pointer (could be a hardware compatability issue tho)..
On the positive side, the internet was very fast and resume time was almost instantanious..not really any major bugs, just nothing too special..
This method works with 1.6 as originally described here:
link-> forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529170
I got it to run with the signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-img-14721.zip image from HTC for the developer phone.
link-> developer.htc.com/adp.html
I replaced the android-sdk-windows\add-ons\google_apis-4_r02\images\system.img with the one from the signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-img-14721.zip
(you should backup the original system.ini)
I then used the Android SDK GUI interface to create a Google API Level 4 machine.
I did not need to install the marketenabler.apk, as described in the original thread.
It boots up like a new Dev Phone, it behaves like there is a valid SIM and working data connection.
CTRL-F11 rotates the screen (slide out keyboard).
I have only installed a few free apps (K9 mail) but they seem to work fine.
I can't post links so copy, and paste them.
It would be trivial to create an Ubuntu virtual machine and then install the Android SDK inside of it and modify the system.img. Installing the SDK on your own machine probably takes less space and resources then running it inside another VM.
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Well, since I hadn't heard of a port to x86, I was certainly wrong about that, which makes the rest of the post moot, but not wrong. In any event, I stand corrected.
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Updated, not corrected.
Yes, you were absolutely correct except for being out of date, because that process you described has already taken place as others have now pointed out.
To the person who said he was wrong, actually, no.
Android as it stands on the phone, is an ARM system compiled in ARM machine code. Android apps are hardware/platform agnostic but the operating system is not, it does have to be ported and recompiled for any different hardware system. That being said, it seems that most of that work is finished, ala androidx86.org
Cheers,
Rob
x86 Android Market
I have been reading a bit. It seems that it is possible to have Gapps installed for x86.
Froyo, people have been using Cyanogen 6 Gapps for Tegra.
Android x86 launched their Gingerbread version not long ago. It would not surprise me if Cyanogen 7 Gapps worked with it. Different devices used different versions and now there is just one version for all. It should be possible to run VM from the desktop.
NDK dependent Apps: in theory, it may be possible taking the apk using android apk tool, x86 NDK from the x86 build and rebuild it for x86 code.
I will be playing with an old EEE900 and see how this goes sooon.
Hello,
can i simulate Windows with an Emulator on an Android tab ( eg. the Samsung Galaxy tab ) ?
Thanks
Matthias
STF-DIR said:
Hello,
can i simulate Windows with an Emulator on an Android tab ( eg. the Samsung Galaxy tab ) ?
Thanks
Matthias
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Has no one an idea ?
Matthias
I think you can, google it to find right app.
Hello,
i have tried google to find a app for that, but wth no result.
Kan you tell me a name of an app for emulating windows on an android tablet?
Thanks
Matthias
windows emulator are on android market..
hmm interesting im gonna have to look into this
kuceens007 said:
windows emulator are on android market..
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In fact I saw this emulator in market and try to find an answer here.
Just wonder whether it allows me to install a program which runs on my old windows 95 or 98...
In other words, can I install .exe software on it?
Thanks!
Some?
I have seen some do it but not well.
I think you can start Ubuntu and Windows 95 or 98 google it I've seen some Nexuses One running Ubuntu, Debian etc.
Its easier to run ubuntu than windows
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kuceens007 said:
Its easier to run ubuntu than windows
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Ya it is much easier to run ubuntu or debian do to the fact that android is already a linux distribution, and ubuntu and debian both support arm processors standard which is what android phones use. Also in order to emulate windows you would have to emulate the intel cpu and that would make things unbairably slow, to the point of being almost unfunctionable.
Hope that helps
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Ya it is much easier to run ubuntu or debian do to the fact that android is already a linux distribution, and ubuntu and debian both support arm processors standard which is what android phones use. Also in order to emulate windows you would have to emulate the intel cpu and that would make things unbairably slow, to the point of being almost unfunctionable.
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I allready tried win emu on dhd,it was fast but not good looking as ubuntu.i will try ubuntu because i have usb host for dhd
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Hi, been looking for emulators to isntall som legacy games ( civ 2 etc) any suggestions?
Anyone got suggestions? been looking for ages but nothing yet. Haven't been able to find something userfriendly.
I'm new to androids but I think you could always try to install Ubuntu then Wine to run some windows app's.. but you'd need pretty powerfull machine and quite luck to achieve that.
nekyo said:
I'm new to androids but I think you could always try to install Ubuntu then Wine to run some windows app's.. but you'd need pretty powerfull machine and quite luck to achieve that.
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Wine is not an emulator, it only translates some platform-dependent things so windows app can run on Linux. As a result wine can only run on x86 architecture. To run windows on ARM android there are many x86 emulator available but of course the performance is not very satisfying. Windows 98 or below can run although with a bit slow. windows XP and later is much heavier so you can't run it in an emulator with acceptable speed
Linux have distros for ARM so it's much easier to install
with devices like s4 and xz is it still too hard to run win 7 in an emulator? win 8 has arm support
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Hello,
can i simulate Windows with an Emulator on an Android tab ( eg. the Samsung Galaxy tab ) ?
Thanks
Matthias
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Windows Emulator
Hi,
i have just to run Ubuntu in my TF, it works great for me and now i want to install WineHQ. I think that wine isnt compabitile with ARM devices but somewhere i read,that from version 1.4 its have to be. But if i tried to install it in Ubuntu its says me,that the program isnt compabitile with my device. Have anyone of you run the Wine?Or do you know,where i can find the Arm version?
Thanks
http://www.winehq.org/announce/1.4
Not sure yet, but if someone else tries and gets successful, report back! I am very interested in this.
i don't see how it'll be compatible with arm... what wine basically does is it redirects requests for libraries that are in windows to those that are available in linux.
and then theres this: WINE=Wine Is Not an Emulator.
Quote from http://wiki.winehq.org/ARM:
"Windows apps are mostly compiled for x86 and they won't run on ARM with bare Wine, so this is not our motivation. The original Motivation was to be able to run winelib-apps on ARM, that even was before it got public that win8 will run on ARM devices."
Exactly - without emulating an x86 processor, you can't run an x86 app. That means no steam, not even notepad. No windows apps.
Strange that this thread has stopped as there is a thread in the gt540 forum linking to a thread where someone got it running through a memory card ubuntu install.
Although I think things like dual booting ubuntu and android and running things like wine will become truly interesting and less hacked once armv8 chips hit the market
FOUND IT!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17469201
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I saw that you can install two Windows Blue apps, Calculate and Alarms, on Windows 8 Pro. I installed this on both my WIndows 8 machines, and attempted to install them on my Surface RT, which didn't work.
I followed these instructions: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/43951-Port-WinBlue-Apps-Alarm-amp-Cal-to-Win8Pro
I used the Windows RT Jailbreak tool to run the chinese tool to sideload the applications, but it always gives me an error. Is there a reason for this, and is there a way around it?
This is normal,since these the WinBlue application only running on x86 platform.
WinBlue for ARM architecture now is didn't disclosure.
hks25258 said:
This is normal,since these the WinBlue application only running on x86 platform.
WinBlue for ARM architecture now is didn't disclosure.
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Okay, so it the leaked apps where only compiled for x86? I guess that makes sense, just didn't think it would matter since it's a Metro app.
even metro apps can have native code compiled only for 1 architecture or another. Its just rare, in theory making a metro app run on ARM instead of x86 should just be changing a few settings in visual studio so its hardly any effort to support ARM.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
even metro apps can have native code compiled only for 1 architecture or another. Its just rare, in theory making a metro app run on ARM instead of x86 should just be changing a few settings in visual studio so its hardly any effort to support ARM.
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it isn't that rare, just most devs will compile for both architectures. there are a few that are specifically flipping the flag though and doing x86 only.
My guess on Windows Blue is that the SDK has only been prepared for x86 internally at this point in time, and not something that should be read into any further about the future of windows rt or if blue will run on it like some people have already started to do. It would make sense that x86 is the only test bed at this point.
Its not as if it is properly released software yet.
Hello!
I would like to run Raspbian on my phone, I have a Moto X 2014, so I think hardware will not be a problem... The problem is, how to create a VM for running ARM on Android? I've already emulated a Windows XP on this using Limbo PC emulator, but XP runs on x86... I see a lot of x86 emulators for Android, but no one ARM" emulator" ironically... :v
Anyone knows a ARM "emulator" for Android or, how to run Raspbian on It?
Thanks!
No one?
Found it? Or not yet .. (
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Found it? Or not yet .. (
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IMO to make VMs on Android is an impossibility and this due to several technical restrictions.