No HSDPA on Orange Uk - General Topics

Hi guys.
Dont know if this is the right section but this is driving me mental so I had to ask somewhere, lol.
On the morning of Wed 28 October I noticed that on my Htc HD I was only getting 3g instead of my usual HSDPA. I initially thought it may just be some sort of glitch locally, (berks area).
Later on that day I went off to Spain for a week where I had no problems getting HSDPA while roaming.
I got back last Thursday and have the same problem. The "H" will appear, but only for few seconds and then go back to 3g.
Was wondering if anyone is having the same problems with orange?
Thanks

Just to update, have now tried the sim in a htc diamond and a samsung and they both give me 3g not hsdpa, I know for a fact my old diamond use to give me "H" all the time at home so there must definitly be a problem with the signal I think.
Anyone else notice anything?

i dont think any of the networks enable true HSDPA (i.e 7.2Mbps) in the UK anyway!
i dont think i would worry about it!
the fact that my o2 ignito says 'H' but the iphone reception indicator sayss '3G' doesnt meant i get a different d/l speed than the iphone

idrisito said:
i dont think any of the networks enable true HSDPA (i.e 7.2Mbps) in the UK anyway!
i dont think i would worry about it!
the fact that my o2 ignito says 'H' but the iphone reception indicator sayss '3G' doesnt meant i get a different d/l speed than the iphone
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3G and H d/l differences might be true in theory but netwok limitations by the carriers would be the greatest limiting factor

well here is a strange one, just done two speed tests. While doing them the "H" came up and gave results of 1196 and 1346. This sounds right I suppose.

salv90 said:
On the morning of Wed 28 October I noticed that on my Htc HD I was only getting 3g instead of my usual HSDPA. I initially thought it may just be some sort of glitch locally, (berks area).
Later on that day I went off to Spain for a week where I had no problems getting HSDPA while roaming.
I got back last Thursday and have the same problem. The "H" will appear, but only for few seconds and then go back to 3g.
Was wondering if anyone is having the same problems with orange?
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Yes, it seems 3UK have changed things too.
Up until a few weeks ago my device had a constant HSDPA connection - now it's 3G when idle, only changing to H when actually pulling data across, then straight back to 3G. This has resulted in a much higher latency delay when browsing!
See my thread here for my original post on 3Gforums.

codedeveloper said:
Yes, it seems 3UK have changed things too.
Up until a few weeks ago my device had a constant HSDPA connection - now it's 3G when idle, only changing to H when actually pulling data across, then straight back to 3G. This has resulted in a much higher latency delay when browsing!
See my thread here for my original post on 3Gforums.
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I'm seeing the same behaviour on T-Mobile UK and sometimes results in a dropped connection.

Well I am so glad it isnt just me going nuts.
Is there anywhere official that says this?

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o2 Upgraded There Network? Orbit 2

Just a quick one for us Orbit 2 owners (or indeed any HSDPA o2 users)
Anyone noticed it seems o2 have upgraded their network?
I seem to be getting HSDPA connections everywhere, where I used to get 3G, 3G where I used to get EDGE and EDGE where I used to get GPRS so everything seems to have gone up a notch.
I don't seem to get GPRS anymore... just EDGE or above.
I only get EDGE at home though although 150-300k EDGE isn't exactly terrible on a PDA for free... and until BT get's their finger out it means 150-300k internet on the PC... what I'm posting this on!
Just quite chuffed!
i'd agree with you...
I've notice that i generally get hs now and i'm certainly noticing the edge symbol a lot more!
my speed has been great since i phoned up and asked to but increased. as suggested on this forum. just done a test this mornibg.
1452kbps Nice!
Yeh Same for me, I used to get only gprs, and occasional 3g, and now im getting Hsdpa pretty much everywhere, which makes youtube on the go brilliant!
Where are you guys from? I'm from Merthyr Tydfil in the south Wales valleys. Bit nervous of changing to O2 yet as I dont know anyone with an O2 phone to check what their 3G coverage is like. According to their website, only Cardiff and Swansea have 3G.
Some parts of Merthyr have 3G. Went up there in the car the other day and got 3G at the VW garage.
Got HSDPA in Abergavenny, but only 2G in Gilwern.
Still only got GPRS in plymouth. Still no HSDPA, but 3G in the city center
DNS resolution has improved markedly in the past fortnight in my opinion. Before I was waiting many seconds to connect to a page (resolve the DNS) but now it is much quicker.
Towserspvm2000 said:
Where are you guys from? I'm from Merthyr Tydfil in the south Wales valleys. Bit nervous of changing to O2 yet as I dont know anyone with an O2 phone to check what their 3G coverage is like. According to their website, only Cardiff and Swansea have 3G.
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Cheshire/Mersyside
Hi. Yes, I have to agree too. Over here in Northern Ireland, my coverage was very poor - only Edge available in Belfast - and I live about 20 miles away. Then about 3 weeks ago, I suddenly started getting 3G, and last week it changed - most of the time - to H. I checked te O2 website, to discover that there wasn't even any H apparently planned for here. Rang O2 to check if it was just a test, but they didn't have a clue.. Surprise, surprise..
Agree'd,
Great in Leicester, locks straight on to H as soon as I'm near... Very fast! And freeeeeee!!
Northamptonshire's main towns are covered, smaller towns are getting there!!
Still no upgrade in speeds here. maxing out around 128kbits/sec. Anyone have any great success with customer services, or is Emma in the Press Office Still the best way to get the upgrade. Has anyone's speed been upgraded without asking?
nothing haappened in Glasgow. If i live in some village with sheeps with nearest shop 15miles away i dont care. But Glasgow??? Probably they dont like weggies :-(

[SOLVED] Are T-Mobile's network speeds capped?

I recently left Vodafone and moved to T-Mobile
So far, everything seems to be good, I haven't once seen my signal drop below 3G (probably due to the merge with Orange), and I usually have HSDPA 4 bars at home, work, in town, etc..
However, I've run the Speedtest app on my phone (Desire Z) and even my old HTC Hero, and they ALWAYS max out at 360kbps, no matter where I am, how many bars I have, what time it is
And I don't mean sometimes it's 100kbps, sometimes 200, sometimes 360, it's ALWAYS 350-360kbps
I think from what I've found on Google this is the maximum speed of 3G (even though I get HSDPA signal)?
Can anyone confirm this before I ring T-Mobile, and also if anything can be changed (or if T-Mobile just don't support HSDPA for phones, only 3G dongles)? I read somewhere that if you ring up and sound like you know what you're talking about they put you through to a proper tech who can enable HSDPA or something on the SIM card
Does this sound true, and has anyone tried it before I ring up?
Right. I called up, she didn't have a clue what I was talking about. She was aware that HSDPA was "a max speed of seven or something" but the fact I conveniently get 360kbps everywhere in the country, even with 4 bars HSDPA just happens to be the max speed I can get. I asked to speak to technical support, but she said they wouldn't be able to help me either, it was probably the phone. I told her I tried on my HTC Hero and got the same thing, yet with my Vodafone SIM I was getting around 1.8mbps
Anyway, I don't know what she's been messing about with on my account, but now a few minutes after getting 360kbps every time I checked, I'm getting between 28-84kbps every time I test it
Gonna have to send an email, hopefully they should pass it to tech support
I average 2Mbps on HSPA, and my max is 4.1Mbps, so definitely not capped.
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LooieENG said:
Right. I called up, she didn't have a clue what I was talking about. She was aware that HSDPA was "a max speed of seven or something" but the fact I conveniently get 360kbps everywhere in the country, even with 4 bars HSDPA just happens to be the max speed I can get. I asked to speak to technical support, but she said they wouldn't be able to help me either, it was probably the phone. I told her I tried on my HTC Hero and got the same thing, yet with my Vodafone SIM I was getting around 1.8mbps
Anyway, I don't know what she's been messing about with on my account, but now a few minutes after getting 360kbps every time I checked, I'm getting between 28-84kbps every time I test it
Gonna have to send an email, hopefully they should pass it to tech support
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Sometimes it's related to the phone's radio fw-for example in my G1 newer radios could get better speeds....But also faster speeds can be achieved by changing the data speeds in the rom's build.prop, my slide gets 3+ and G1 is normally 1-2MB+. It also depends on weather I guess and your distance from a tmobile tower.
TheBiles said:
I average 2Mbps on HSPA, and my max is 4.1Mbps, so definitely not capped.
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Ace42 said:
Sometimes it's related to the phone's radio fw-for example in my G1 newer radios could get better speeds....But also faster speeds can be achieved by changing the data speeds in the rom's build.prop, my slide gets 3+ and G1 is normally 1-2MB+. It also depends on weather I guess and your distance from a tmobile tower.
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Yeah, the strange thing is I get 360kbps max no matter where I am, no matter what signal I have, no matter what the weather is like
Plus I don't think it's the radio as I get the same speeds in my Hero, and I get 1mbps+ with my Vodafone SIM in both phones
I've sent an email anyway, hopefully someone with an idea should read it
LooieENG said:
Yeah, the strange thing is I get 360kbps max no matter where I am, no matter what signal I have, no matter what the weather is like
Plus I don't think it's the radio as I get the same speeds in my Hero, and I get 1mbps+ with my Vodafone SIM in both phones
I've sent an email anyway, hopefully someone with an idea should read it
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On either phone do you ever see the "H" icon or is it the 3G one?
H on both of them, 2 bars with Vodafone, 4 bars with T-Mobile
I get 4 bars H most of the time with T-Mobile
I dont know if the network is different over in England, but here In KC I avg 8mbs. Been as high as 10mbs (On MT4G.)
MvP77 said:
I dont know if the network is different over in England, but here In KC I avg 8mbs. Been as high as 10mbs (On MT4G.)
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Is that 4G? I don't think we have that here yet
Anyway, I emailed T-Mobile so now I'm just waiting for a reply
Update
I never got a reply to my email, so I went into a T-Mobile store
After a few minutes explaining to the guy it definitely was capped, and the phone DID support HSDPA (yes, he did actually tell me it might only support 3G) he said he would add the Web'n'Walk Max (or whatever) to my account, so I would now get a 3GB limit, and I should get HSDPA speeds alo
I went outside, and a few minutes later ran a Speedtest
1.8mbps down

Radio UMTS/HSPA switching bug (3g/4g)

OK, so as I'm sure some of you are seeing, there's an issue with the HSPA/UMTS switching. Like a LOT. I've tried to do Speed Tests, but simply am not able to, because the connection wants to switch from 3g to 4g and back over and over again.
I wanna see how many of you are aware of this and are fed up with it. It's kind of silly. C'mon HTC.
I too have noticed this issue. I'm sure it will be fixed quickly. Such is the penalty to being an early adapter.
Doesn't affect my calling in no way whatsoever. Does mess with my browsing a bit, and after connecting to my home wifi i can say that the switching is definitely the cause.
Hope it gets a quick and tidy fix soon.
yep I see it all the time, doesnt bother me though
I think this is a bug in all HOS
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The Galaxy Nexus does this. It switches between 3G and H based on what is being done. If you're not browsing it is on 3G, and if you're browsing and actively using the connection it switches to H. My One S doesn't do this at all unless I'm in a fringe area.
Agreed with the OP, this is annoying, because while the device is in this period of switching there is no data transfer possible, it can stay like this for a long time, sya a few minutes not just a few seconds.
joshnichols189 said:
The Galaxy Nexus does this. It switches between H and H+ based on what is being done. If you're not browsing it is on H, and if you're browsing and actively using the connection it switches to H+. My One S doesn't do this at all unless I'm in a fringe area.
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No, it's nothing like that at all. I came from a Nexus S, which had HSPA (not +), and it would switch from 3g to H, and it was never a problem. The issue here is that once it gets to H, it suddenly dies out, switches back to 3g, goes for a sec, dies, switches to 4g, and over and over again. It's nothing like what you're describing, because I'm very familiar with your situation.
In your situation, as you described, it switches based on usage. So, if you're using data a bunch, it'll switch to HSPA+ and stay there until activity dies down. On the One S, it switches back right in the middle of doing data-intensive work. And it ruins the connection.
Let's put it this way: I cant even perform the Speed Test app half the time because the connection gets interrupted and dropped. I've had less than 50% success rate with finishing that test, and I usually only succeed by timing it based on the switching.
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No, it's nothing like that at all. I came from a Nexus S, which had HSPA (not +), and it would switch from 3g to H, and it was never a problem. The issue here is that once it gets to H, it suddenly dies out, switches back to 3g, goes for a sec, dies, switches to 4g, and over and over again. It's nothing like what you're describing, because I'm very familiar with your situation.
In your situation, as you described, it switches based on usage. So, if you're using data a bunch, it'll switch to HSPA+ and stay there until activity dies down. On the One S, it switches back right in the middle of doing data-intensive work. And it ruins the connection.
Let's put it this way: I cant even perform the Speed Test app half the time because the connection gets interrupted and dropped. I've had less than 50% success rate with finishing that test, and I usually only succeed by timing it based on the switching.
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I understand haha and I haven't had a single problem except one place where I frequent is a fringe area and it will go from one bar or "4G" down to 2G but that's about it.
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You sir... are wrong or lying.
nickmv said:
No, it's nothing like that at all. I came from a Nexus S, which had HSPA (not +), and it would switch from 3g to H, and it was never a problem. The issue here is that once it gets to H, it suddenly dies out, switches back to 3g, goes for a sec, dies, switches to 4g, and over and over again. It's nothing like what you're describing, because I'm very familiar with your situation.
In your situation, as you described, it switches based on usage. So, if you're using data a bunch, it'll switch to HSPA+ and stay there until activity dies down. On the One S, it switches back right in the middle of doing data-intensive work. And it ruins the connection.
Let's put it this way: I cant even perform the Speed Test app half the time because the connection gets interrupted and dropped. I've had less than 50% success rate with finishing that test, and I usually only succeed by timing it based on the switching.
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Lets see... HSPA and 3g = the same thing. You claiming your Nexus S switches between H and 3g is total utter BS. The H moniker in the notification bar is ONLY a reference to HSPA+ otherwise known by carriers as 4G.
Nexus S does not, never did, never will, switch between H and 3g. It just doesn't have the hardware. Since you are obviously a liar or just wrong, I discount the rest of your post as well.
yech22 said:
Lets see... HSPA and 3g = the same thing. You claiming your Nexus S switches between H and 3g is total utter BS. The H moniker in the notification bar is ONLY a reference to HSPA+ otherwise known by carriers as 4G.
Nexus S does not, never did, never will, switch between H and 3g. It just doesn't have the hardware. Since you are obviously a liar or just wrong, I discount the rest of your post as well.
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The Nexus S shows H when using the connection and 3G when not.
AOSP sees UMTS as 3G and HSDPA/HSPA/HSPA+ as H. It will sit on UMTS until you are using mobile data, then it will switch to H.
So yes, the phone can switch between 3G and H while being used. HSPA and variants ARE 3G, but are seen as 4G, thus H. It doesn't even sound like you had a Nexus S so how would you even know what the status bar does?
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yech22 said:
Lets see... HSPA and 3g = the same thing. You claiming your Nexus S switches between H and 3g is total utter BS. The H moniker in the notification bar is ONLY a reference to HSPA+ otherwise known by carriers as 4G.
Nexus S does not, never did, never will, switch between H and 3g. It just doesn't have the hardware. Since you are obviously a liar or just wrong, I discount the rest of your post as well.
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LOL, with all due respect, you just made yourself look like a fool. If you actually owned a Nexus S or looked up its specifications, it is capable of 7.2mbps HSDPA (H, or sometimes described as 3.5G), whereas UMTS is described at traditional 3G. HSDPA was and has never been considered 3G. It's definitely a step up.
Traditional 3G has never been capable of 7.2mbps downstream. I invite you to do some research here regarding the differences. I'll assume since you had time to time to craft a clever little response, that you can take time to read up on it.
Again, had you actually owned a Nexus S or researched it, you would have found that it typically stays on regular 3G (UMTS...NOT HSPA) when not very active, and switches to H (HSDPA).
Again, had you actually owned a Nexus S or researched it, you would have found that in the System Settings, that network mode is easily found, and either displays HSPA (H/3.5G) or UMTS(3G).
Another links for explanations....scroll to the bottom for this statement
"Three has now backed down and agreed that HSPA+ is not 4G"
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/20...rk-with-42mbps-capable-evolved-hspa-tech.html
SFP said:
Another links for explanations....scroll to the bottom for this statement
"Three has now backed down and agreed that HSPA+ is not 4G"
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/20...rk-with-42mbps-capable-evolved-hspa-tech.html
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I don't think that's ever been up for debate. However, the stock ROM displays HSPA and HSPA+ connections as "4G", and so do some of the modded ROMs. I'm not here for a debate on what's true 4g. This thread has somehow transformed....
Apologies, I wasn't challenging what you'd written, think I'm confused too :rolleyes
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nickmv said:
I don't think that's ever been up for debate. However, the stock ROM displays HSPA and HSPA+ connections as "4G", and so do some of the modded ROMs. I'm not here for a debate on what's true 4g. This thread has somehow transformed....
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I'm only here because of the know it all on the first page
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I have this problem with my phone as well. I just want to throw something else out there also.
On my Nexus one when I had CM7 depending on what I was doing it could display 3g change to H. The thing is though that when 3g was displayed you actually had no data connection.
It seems something similar is going on here because the behavior isn't a slow down in the connection speed rather it's an actual break in the connection (downloads stop, speedtest does nothing, etc.)
We might not have a problem with the phone switching back and forth between 3g and 4g. Rather the phone could be switching from 4g to nothing to 4g. Only it's so fast the icons don't display the whole story (this is my personal belief)
You can see the same type of behavior when switching from WCDMA only to GSM Only
It starts at H
Then briefly 3G
Then no letter
Then E
I've tried to find a way to get the phone locked on 3g but I can only get 2g or 4g.
nickmv said:
OK, so as I'm sure some of you are seeing, there's an issue with the HSPA/UMTS switching. Like a LOT. I've tried to do Speed Tests, but simply am not able to, because the connection wants to switch from 3g to 4g and back over and over again.
I wanna see how many of you are aware of this and are fed up with it. It's kind of silly. C'mon HTC.
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I can't remember whether you've mentioned this somewhere else, but what radio are you using? I'm curious as to whether you received a phone that didn't get an updated to release radio? I haven't had any problems.
I'm on 0.16.31501S.02
Also, I NEVER see 3G on my phone. I wonder if that actually helps my situation. I'm mostly always at full 4G, but will sometimes drop to 2G, or even G, depending on whether I'm in a shielded area or passing through a dead zone. I wonder if this could actually be working for me/against you?
majalo said:
I can't remember whether you've mentioned this somewhere else, but what radio are you using? I'm curious as to whether you received a phone that didn't get an updated to release radio? I haven't had any problems.
I'm on 0.16.31501S.02
Also, I NEVER see 3G on my phone. I wonder if that actually helps my situation. I'm mostly always at full 4G, but will sometimes drop to 2G, or even G, depending on whether I'm in a shielded area or passing through a dead zone. I wonder if this could actually be working for me/against you?
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I only go between 4G and 2G when in fringe areas as well. Haven't seen 3G once.
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Solved my problem
I had the same problem of my Galaxy SII switching back and forth between data types. I had tried putting my iPhone 4 SIM into my Android (with an adapter). Turns out that my problem was with the SIM. I needed a different SIM for this type of phone.
Just positing this in case it helps anyone. Try visiting your carrier and ask for a different SIM.
Flash my T-Mobile ROM and it'll fix the issue.

Sprint's "network vision" and their excuse for terrible 3g

I have called Sprint on their BS and their horrible 3G.
Evo Shift = EVDO Rev A
Photon Q/iPhone5/newer phones = EVDO Rev B
Ping time on Photon Q = 800ms+ latency
Download speed = 0.02Mbps
Evo Shift = ~300ms latency
Download speed = .5Mbps
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/99267?start=360&tstart=0 <-- iPhone5 users having the same problem.
I switched back to my Evo Shift 4G. Apparently every tower is "down" in my area while they perform the upgrades. OVER IT.
Link above spells it out
VICODAN said:
I have called Sprint on their BS and their horrible 3G.
Evo Shift = EVDO Rev A
Photon Q/iPhone5/newer phones = EVDO Rev B
Ping time on Photon Q = 800ms+ latency
Download speed = 0.02Mbps
Evo Shift = ~300ms latency
Download speed = .5Mbps
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/99267?start=360&tstart=0 <-- iPhone5 users having the same problem.
I switched back to my Evo Shift 4G. Apparently every tower is "down" in my area while they perform the upgrades. OVER IT.
Link above spells it out
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One, EVDO Rev B, last I checked, is not on the Photon Q or any LTE phone other than the iPhone 5. Two, EVDO Rev B IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE DEPLOYED BY SPRINT OR VERIZON. All phones connect to EVDO Rev A.
Those speeds and pings are highly varying, make SURE both phones are connected to 3G (EVDO). It seems the Photon Q is connected to 1xRTT rather than EVDO, while the Evo Shift is connected to EVDO.
Yea I've been contemplating returning my Photon Q as well (still have a few more days in the 14-day return period for Costco) or selling it outright. I wish I had made the decision before last Friday when I could have picked up a GS3 for $50...
I have my Evo Shift on craigslist for sale, and thus returned it to stock, but am thinking I may unlock it again, try out CM10 on it, and if it runs well, switch back too. LTE would be nice, and even though I'm in the Atlanta metro, and get LTE speeds driving around, it seems to have dead zones at my house, my buddy's house, my wife's school, and anywhere else I might have the opportunity to use it. I was hoping some of the development would help fix these issues, but I guess I'm too impatient to wait lol. One of the last straws was going to watch a video on collegehumor that wouldn't run on the Q, even with Flash 11.1 sideloaded, but runs fine on my original HTC EVO (which also runs CM10).
Dunno, its a hard choice... the keyboard is really nice, and I'm excited for the free vehicle dock, and the dual core 1.5 is pretty sweet, but there are just too many issues with the thing...
To me the downside of Sprint's network is that the connection seems to drop out often, resulting in the inability to load data at that instant, and probably battery drain... i would think anyway. Does anyone else notice the connection dropping and reconnecting a lot? I felt like i maintained a much more steady connection on T-Mobile's network. And yea, i find Sprint 3G to be pretty slow.
But in the few times i've had strong LTE, i've had the fastest speeds i have ever recorded anywhere!
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One, EVDO Rev B, last I checked, is not on the Photon Q or any LTE phone other than the iPhone 5. Two, EVDO Rev B IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE DEPLOYED BY SPRINT OR VERIZON. All phones connect to EVDO Rev A.
Those speeds and pings are highly varying, make SURE both phones are connected to 3G (EVDO). It seems the Photon Q is connected to 1xRTT rather than EVDO, while the Evo Shift is connected to EVDO.
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Yes, the Photon is NOT getting Evdo (whatever rev) even though it says it does. Both stock and post OTA.
yogi2010 said:
To me the downside of Sprint's network is that the connection seems to drop out often, resulting in the inability to load data at that instant, and probably battery drain... i would think anyway. Does anyone else notice the connection dropping and reconnecting a lot? I felt like i maintained a much more steady connection on T-Mobile's network. And yea, i find Sprint 3G to be pretty slow.
But in the few times i've had strong LTE, i've had the fastest speeds i have ever recorded anywhere!
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I've noticed the exact same thing. When I'm on 3G, the data is fairly regularly just dropping for a second or two at a time, so anything that requires a constant connection (like IRC) will crap out. The few times I've been in 4G, mostly in silicon valley, I've gotten ridiculously fast speeds. Last time I ran a speed test it was like 36MBps down and 20MBps up. I never saw those speeds with Verizon (but that's likely because so many more people were actually using Verizon, too)
Jgard said:
I've noticed the exact same thing. When I'm on 3G, the data is fairly regularly just dropping for a second or two at a time, so anything that requires a constant connection (like IRC) will crap out. The few times I've been in 4G, mostly in silicon valley, I've gotten ridiculously fast speeds. Last time I ran a speed test it was like 36MBps down and 20MBps up. I never saw those speeds with Verizon (but that's likely because so many more people were actually using Verizon, too)
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yeah the dropping connection is terrible, and happens even in a real strong 3G area. could it have anything to do with looking for LTE, or being on the edge of an LTE zone, or just the fact that the whole network is in flux? hopefully it's only temporary 'cuz it's pretty bad... seems real slow too, especially on downloads.
yeah, my record speedtest was 37 MBps down in LTE! i never got 20 up tho. yea, there can't be too many people using Sprint LTE yet, but i've been reading some forums on the site s4gru.com, and supposedly Verizon just raced to cover the nation with LTE, but didn't rebuild their entire network like Sprint is doing. who knows, but at least Sprint LTE seems promising.
yogi2010 said:
yeah the dropping connection is terrible, and happens even in a real strong 3G area. could it have anything to do with looking for LTE, or being on the edge of an LTE zone, or just the fact that the whole network is in flux? hopefully it's only temporary 'cuz it's pretty bad... seems real slow too, especially on downloads.
yeah, my record speedtest was 37 MBps down in LTE! i never got 20 up tho. yea, there can't be too many people using Sprint LTE yet, but i've been reading some forums on the site s4gru.com, and supposedly Verizon just raced to cover the nation with LTE, but didn't rebuild their entire network like Sprint is doing. who knows, but at least Sprint LTE seems promising.
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That is a bug in 77.8 (drop data when changing network mode)
workaround: turn on airplane mode, turn off, or reboot phone.
VICODAN said:
That is a bug in 77.8 (drop data when changing network mode)
workaround: turn on airplane mode, turn off, or reboot phone.
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i think these are actually 2 different things, i've been seeing the signal drop/reconnect ever since the original software version. after the update, the 3G icon will disappear(like after a phone call) and won't come back until you toggle airplane mode or it drops and reconnects on it's own(which seems to be often!). but if your 3G icon disappears and you have bars, try and you should see that you can still load data, so i believe that bug since the update is more of a cosmetic thing. at least that's how it is for me, and others have said the same on other forums.
Here's a screenshot where i have no 3G icon but have a perfect data connection!
yogi2010 said:
yeah the dropping connection is terrible, and happens even in a real strong 3G area. could it have anything to do with looking for LTE, or being on the edge of an LTE zone, or just the fact that the whole network is in flux? hopefully it's only temporary 'cuz it's pretty bad... seems real slow too, especially on downloads.
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You're right, that issue actually does have a lot to do with the phone wanting to search for LTE, or trying to prefer LTE when the connection is very weak. The solution? Turn off LTE when you're not in LTE coverage. Not the most elegant or pleasing solution, but that fixes it.
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You're right, that issue actually does have a lot to do with the phone wanting to search for LTE, or trying to prefer LTE when the connection is very weak. The solution? Turn off LTE when you're not in LTE coverage. Not the most elegant or pleasing solution, but that fixes it.
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Yeah, that could be it for me. I switched to CDMA-only a few hours ago and haven't seen the signal drop out once. I'll keep an eye on it tho to make sure. It seems like LTE is creeping in around where i live, so my phone may have been wanting to connect but was just out of range of it.

[Q] Nexus 5 - UK - Vodafone - HSDPA Connection Issues?

I've got my Nexus 5 and its great and all that but I find it cannot get a decent hsdpa connection on vodafone. My old Galaxy Nexus had no issues but the Nexus 5 is stuck with an E data connection?!
This is on a new SIM.
Anyone having issues?
I've heard nothing, either here or on the OcUK forum, which is almost all UK users. Have you looked on the Vodafone forum?
I'm on Vodafone too, got the 5 on upgrade so they gave me a new sim too. I can connect alright to 4g, it's a bit flakey where my home is (outside the m25) but fine at work (inside m25 but not central london, sort of south west!). When I'm connected it's pretty fast.
If anything though, I noticed when I lose 4g it tends to shove me onto 2g and not 3g :/ Check the coverage you're supposed to get on http://www.vodafone.co.uk/our-network-and-coverage/uk-coverage-map/ then if should be ok (as it worked before for you) give them a shout.
Could either be vodafone being rubbish (happens to me a lot anyway) or a dodgy phone.
Edit: attached a screenshot of my current download/upload speeds- they're not that brilliant, it seems to vary a lot. the best i've seen is 26mbps down.
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I'm on Vodafone too, got the 5 on upgrade so they gave me a new sim too. I can connect alright to 4g, it's a bit flakey where my home is (outside the m25) but fine at work (inside m25 but not central london, sort of south west!). When I'm connected it's pretty fast.
If anything though, I noticed when I lose 4g it tends to shove me onto 2g and not 3g :/ Check the coverage you're supposed to get on http://www.vodafone.co.uk/our-network-and-coverage/uk-coverage-map/ then if should be ok (as it worked before for you) give them a shout.
Could either be vodafone being rubbish (happens to me a lot anyway) or a dodgy phone.
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I just checked the voda site and they make claim that there are some issues in my area. I'll survey the office, see who else is on Voda and see if they're getting stuck on 2G.
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I'm on Vodafone too, got the 5 on upgrade so they gave me a new sim too. I can connect alright to 4g, it's a bit flakey where my home is (outside the m25) but fine at work (inside m25 but not central london, sort of south west!). When I'm connected it's pretty fast.
If anything though, I noticed when I lose 4g it tends to shove me onto 2g and not 3g :/ Check the coverage you're supposed to get on http://www.vodafone.co.uk/our-network-and-coverage/uk-coverage-map/ then if should be ok (as it worked before for you) give them a shout.
Could either be vodafone being rubbish (happens to me a lot anyway) or a dodgy phone.
Edit: attached a screenshot of my current download/upload speeds- they're not that brilliant, it seems to vary a lot. the best i've seen is 26mbps down.
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On Vodafone pay monthly (in contract for another 3 months) , tomorrow will move to 4g got 7 days to test it out. Live in London and coverage should be ok. One other thing did u get the sky sport offer package? And does it work, I think sky is doing some updates to make it work with N5.
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chenga28 said:
On Vodafone pay monthly (in contract for another 3 months) , tomorrow will move to 4g got 7 days to test it out. Live in London and coverage should be ok. One other thing did u get the sky sport offer package? And does it work, I think sky is doing some updates to make it work with N5.
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I went for spotify premium as I have sky sports at home anyway. But my friend also has the N5 and he said sky go isn't working yet... I'm sure they'll update soon hopefully.
thunderstorm654 said:
I'm on Vodafone too, got the 5 on upgrade so they gave me a new sim too. I can connect alright to 4g, it's a bit flakey where my home is (outside the m25) but fine at work (inside m25 but not central london, sort of south west!). When I'm connected it's pretty fast.
If anything though, I noticed when I lose 4g it tends to shove me onto 2g and not 3g :/ Check the coverage you're supposed to get on http://www.vodafone.co.uk/our-network-and-coverage/uk-coverage-map/ then if should be ok (as it worked before for you) give them a shout.
Could either be vodafone being rubbish (happens to me a lot anyway) or a dodgy phone.
Edit: attached a screenshot of my current download/upload speeds- they're not that brilliant, it seems to vary a lot. the best i've seen is 26mbps down.
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Hi Ordered another on Vodafone 4G and just got the phone and sim 30 minutes ago. I noticed the Signal was showing as LTE prior to downloading the 139MB forced update and then when it restarted it was showing 4G, So could it be the case that This is the same handset in the states or at least the band setup is at software level ?
Also The Speed I am getting on 4g is really disappointing because I was looking forward to getting more and also, I disable my Data connection but noticed that Wifi even though showing as connected is not able to browse the web or do anything data related. This is worrying.
Attached is my speedtest, I will be doing further test at every hour and will post the results as well.
Also the Postcode where I did this test is given here : TW8 9AX
saayinla said:
Hi Ordered another on Vodafone 4G and just got the phone and sim 30 minutes ago. I noticed the Signal was showing as LTE prior to downloading the 139MB forced update and then when it restarted it was showing 4G, So could it be the case that This is the same handset in the states or at least the band setup is at software level ?
Also The Speed I am getting on 4g is really disappointing because I was looking forward to getting more and also, I disable my Data connection but noticed that Wifi even though showing as connected is not able to browse the web or do anything data related. This is worrying.
Attached is my speedtest, I will be doing further test at every hour and will post the results as well.
Also the Postcode where I did this test is given here : TW8 9AX
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Haha, that's weird, you're not far from where I am. I'm currently in TW16. I just tried it again, and got 22.21mbps down and 14.91 up. I've never seen an upload speed as fast as yours but obviously we care about download more!! weird.
When I'm at home though (GU24) the 4g is a lot flakier. in fact the signal full stop has been dropping left right and centre last night, it was fine the first couple days but last 24 hours have been dodgy. I can't work out if it's the area or the phone. On my N4 i had to force it to 2g cos the 3g was so bad, so I even tried that with the N5, but the signal still kept randomly dropping then reconnecting. Frustrating. Don't know if it's phone, vodafone, or both!
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Haha, that's weird, you're not far from where I am. I'm currently in TW16. I just tried it again, and got 22.21mbps down and 14.91 up. I've never seen an upload speed as fast as yours but obviously we care about download more!! weird.
When I'm at home though (GU24) the 4g is a lot flakier. in fact the signal full stop has been dropping left right and centre last night, it was fine the first couple days but last 24 hours have been dodgy. I can't work out if it's the area or the phone. On my N4 i had to force it to 2g cos the 3g was so bad, so I even tried that with the N5, but the signal still kept randomly dropping then reconnecting. Frustrating. Don't know if it's phone, vodafone, or both!
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I guess its fingers crossed then. I ll know when I get home tonight as there is Vodafone Mast right on top of the building I live in SE20. SO hopefully that shouldn't be too bad, but this wifi issue is not very comforting.
Another Test Done.. Looks better now.
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Another Test Done.. Looks better now.
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I'm gettin 26mbit indoors, havent tested it outdoors with full signal yet...since my 6GB data plan isnt active for 2 weeks and i just managed to burn through 400MB
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I'm gettin 26mbit indoors, havent tested it outdoors with full signal yet...since my 6GB data plan isnt active for 2 weeks and i just managed to burn through 400MB
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I think we have 3 months Data test drive with Vodafone where we can consume unlimited amount of Data.
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I think we have 3 months Data test drive with Vodafone where we can consume unlimited amount of Data.
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Got switched over this afternoon to 4g, in the City London very fast, when I was walking home done another speed test hitt alomst 47 down and 15 up. Already chewed through 700mb today, setting up phone from scratch. Anyhow impressed so far, in pay monthly contract for another 3 months will then decide who to sign up with.

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