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htc dash or motorola q9h? both updated to 6.1
i have to get a new phone my touch got washed...i know im in the wrong section but i need an answer fast because the auctions are ending soon and dev and hack has the most viewers and developers that have some experiance with both phones... thanks guys

bereda said:
htc dash or motorola q9h? both updated to 6.1
i have to get a new phone my touch got washed...i know im in the wrong section but i need an answer fast because the auctions are ending soon and dev and hack has the most viewers and developers that have some experiance with both phones... thanks guys
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Would this not be better asked in Q&A or the Dash forum??? Nothing to do with Development & Hacking, but as a quick answer check sig.

thread moved
hope you now will get another answer too

nope still no solid answer.. you could have waited until i got an answer to move it

Questions are meant to be posted in the QUESTIONS section, not in the DEVELOPMENT section.
that's why it writes QUESTIONS in the Q&A section and not something else.
do read the rules before posting, and when someone moves your thread, trust that they didn't do it because they were bored.
everyone needs their questions answered fast.
and please don't double post questions, it's not going to help you get what you want faster... maybe the other way around.
you got a concrete answer from stylez... who has the Dash and said it's better.

bereda said:
nope still no solid answer.. you could have waited until i got an answer to move it
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you have a question it goes in the q&a section. PERIOD.
If he wouldn't have moved it someone else would have. Your lucky he was being nice and didn't give you a temp ban for posting in the wrong section knowing full and well it was the wrong section.

haha wow this site got way to rediculous with this sticky bs and mods out the wazoo i used to love this site now its just filled with over powered people who take this way to seriously what happend to the old xda where people where kind enough to answer questions no matter what section they were in and that was only a year ago... i guess gone is the old ways of a few sections and a handfull of IMPORTANT stickies and the brother like feeling when you did ask something or you created something no mater if it was usefull or not people still cared enouh to be kind... and now it looks like xda tore its self and its following and integrity apart with all this over structurized crap, power hungry a$$hole mods (except for the oldschool guys and a few newer like noonski and abraker...etc.) and honestly ive been around for awhile im a senior member and contribute my work and helped others i know the rules and everyhing SO STOP TELLING ME TO FOLLOW THEM IF YOU DIDNT GO CHANGING THEM EVERY WEEK IT WOULD BE FINE!.. but guys come on pull your selfs together your acting like the idiots at enron! ban me if you must but its just a shame you let this happen...
these mods have to stop stepping all over senior members and treating us like were effing children or cattle its just pathetic!
btw. i dont think anybody even checks those damn stickies besides mods
and i ddnt care it was moved at all and i didnt care that i put it in the wrong section i needed a fast answer(your Q/A thread would have taken to long to get an answer!) i knew it would get moved or deleted AFTER I GOT AN ANSWER and dev/hacking has the most views and the most knowledgeable people who could help me out fast! and i needed the info from a developer that may have worked with both because i am a developer and have never used either device i create for the elf and mogul.

follow the rules and have a wonderful day.
for your information, most threads in the Q&A section are responded to after no more than 2-3 hours.

Re: New forum board for support?

Re: New forum board for support?
Hi all
Could a moderator make a new forum section in the Dream heading for support?
I'm just a little tired of reading the repeated requests for help with rooting/omgz i broke my phone/rc29-rc30 posts.
This section should be for android development! For example i made two threads with 2 development questions and they've been burried by support questions which is quite frustrating to say the least.
Thanks for reading
Darkflare

good idea tbh.
was thinking about this the other day because this forum just gets so cluttered with stupid help request posts, it's hard to find anything and also, doesn't look very good to newcomers. (well, the ones that can use a search button)
whatever, i voted yes

Please please PLEASE yes.

Agreed
I Agree
People do need help (some just don't know how to search)... but the Dev forum is not the place for it.

This is a great idea, and would make the search function work better anyway.

tim_programmer said:
People do need help (some just don't know how to search)... but the Dev forum is not the place for it.
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What is wrong with the Dream forum??

I would like to see it as well but I don't really see it working. I see this happening. New people post there with questions on how to do something. Most senior members will probably stay away from that forum because of all the threads asking the same question. New people will see no one is really helping them. Then they will come back to development thread and start posting again.

You guys might as well kill this topic, it will not happen.
I spend hours alone, every day trying to keep this and the theme forum somewhat organized.
Another forum?? will not help one bit, unfortunately.
What people have to learn is how too search and read prior to posting.
What you "Vets" can do to help the situation is "Report a post" with a link where you think it should go.
Being a mod, i can say 2 to 4 people only, from Dream forum reports threads.
This isn't easy, especially with all new posters, not knowing better.
This is exactly why T-Mobile took Root away from the general public. LOL

Mikey1022 said:
You guys might as well kill this topic, it will not happen.
I spend hours alone, every day trying to keep this and the theme forum somewhat organized.
Another forum?? will not help one bit, unfortunately.
What people have to learn is how too search and read prior to posting.
What you "Vets" can do to help the situation is "Report a post" with a link where you think it should go.
Being a mod, i can say 2 to 4 people only, from Dream forum reports threads.
This isn't easy, especially with all new posters, not knowing better.
This is exactly why T-Mobile took Root away from the general public. LOL
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But thats just it, theres no where to move the support posts too!
If there was a support section i would GLADLY start flagging the hell outta threads that need moving!! but currently there is no where to send them.
Whatcha think? otherwise if you can suggest where i should suggest these help posts to go i will happily start flagging them for you!
thanks
Darkflare

So whats the criteria for reqporting a thread?

what about something to weed out retarded people? It's getting really off topic like OMG JESUS FREAK and #$%^HELP&^%$#
I appreciate your hard work mods.......

I remember another forum ( i can't remember which) but when you clicked "new thread" it asked you for your subject first, then showed links to similar threads and a "continue with new thread" button. Is there anyway to implement that here. Seemed pretty helpful even after searching the forum.

Read the rules in my sig or opening threads will threads already open, for the Same topic

Here is another vote for a support forum.

Question???

Is it just me, or does it seem that there are more an more people posting things in the wrong section? For instance this thread was posted in the ROM Development section. Shouldn't it be in the Software section? It doesn't make sense to me. If people would take the time to read the wiki, the posting rules, and the Section Titles, then we wouldn't have such a chaotic mess on this forum. Is it possible to implement rules for new users requiring that the spend so many days just reading before they are able to make their first post?

I think its because some people see xda as a place to get quick answers, great roms, and nice apps.....but not interested in what this site is all about, as far as working with everyone, being disciplined enough to search first, ask for help second, and be respectful. Its just a sign of the times.....people want more but dont want to take simple steps to work within the guidelines.....just my 3 cents...

The Moderators move the thread that I mentioned in my original post to the appropriate section.
Does anyone else want to weigh in on this? If so, I will try to post a poll.

Yeh, you're right but it's not like you can tell them what to do and a poll isn't really necessary don't you think?

so what should we title this thread? the *****ing thread? it happens...it's the internet after all, as one of the prior posters had mentioned, people just act rude on the net because they can.... i just try and ignore them...

post in developer forum

Can someone tell me the reason why i need 10 posts to post in developer forum?
Greets

Probably because they don't want people creating accounts and spamming those forums right off the bat. Keeping the dev forums more focused on getting things working than general chat and I need help etc. Just my view on it.

I thought it's stupid too, but after I realised how stupid people can be, I think it's a good idea. Just answer for a few questions here and you will have the 10 really soon.

thanks for posting this question so I can add another post to sum up to 10 or more posts to finally be able to participate where I would like to Rhobuntu on HTC TP2.
So silly - now they move from Ubuntu to Debian squeeze which is what I have running on my computer and next week I should have an HTC TP2 available for development only. Just - I cannot post !
Oh and I forgot the 5 minutes rule...
Too bad there is no icon for i$$ed

error_401 said:
Oh and I forgot the 5 minutes rule...
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There is a five minute rule to? Thought I read all the rules.

ok, i've got 10 posts now.
i'm still not allowed to post there! why? i really need to ask some questions there!

jeahbaby said:
ok, i've got 10 posts now.
i'm still not allowed to post there! why? i really need to ask some questions there!
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Don't tell me that!!
I've been posting around Q&A to reach those 10 posts because I want to ask and help on dev forums... :-(
Well, almost there, let me see what topic I can participate and then, if I keep being "blocked" off-of the dev forums...

There are very good reasons why the 10 post rule has been set up, a couple of which have been said above.
Why do you need to post in the dev section anyway? Are you a developer? If you arent and you create a new thread (question) it will probably get moved here.
If you are asking a question, the Q&A is the place
#justsayin

is right to by like this

I meant NOT right

I have 10 posts, why I still cannot post in the dev forum? need to aks about my issue

cska133 said:
I have 10 posts, why I still cannot post in the dev forum? need to aks about my issue
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Because your ten posts were not helpful, they were spammy. And if you have a question, ask it in Q&A NOT Development. How hard is that to understand?

well, the question concerns a curtain app, so I would like to ask in the dev forum , where this ALREADY HAVE BEEN discussed in a special thread.

You might find that some of us here are quite knowledgable and therefore your answer could be easily obtained here without the need to post in the dev forums
Why dont you give it a go and ask here ?
Also, if your question has already been asked, there is in all probability an answer there; so eed to re-post the same question?

I can understand the rule but not your argument. What if he has been using an app that has its own topic in the dev forum and he wants to post a bug report or ask a question that hasn't been asked before. If it's about that specific thing it should go in that specific thread.
Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500

sageDieu said:
I can understand the rule but not your argument. What if he has been using an app that has its own topic in the dev forum and he wants to post a bug report or ask a question that hasn't been asked before. If it's about that specific thing it should go in that specific thread.
Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500
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yes, you have a valid point. However i was trying to put forward the notion that far too many people post in the dev sections without properly researching first, hence the requirement for the 10 post rule.
Of course the OP may have a very genuine bug to report, if this is the case then can the OP let me know if he still cant postin dev and ill look into it.

timmymarsh said:
There are very good reasons why the 10 post rule has been set up, a couple of which have been said above.
Why do you need to post in the dev section anyway? Are you a developer? If you arent and you create a new thread (question) it will probably get moved here.
If you are asking a question, the Q&A is the place
#justsayin
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not 100% true. I mean, when you use a ROM sometimes you want to exchange ideas with other users, make questions and even report bugs / make suggestions. you may not be a developer but in some way, everyone can be a beta tester! it doesn't make sense to star opening Q&A for CyanogenMod7 if you have a proper place in Developers Forum... And that's why I had to answer 10 things around (useful answers!) to use that section of the forums...
by the way, i don't know if the posts have to be useful, but i had access immediately to the dev forums...

hi, i'm a new user from spain, i need 10 posts to write on developers forums, where is in that forum the noobs place! thanks

I think it's a good idea. Learn your way around before posting/rambling on a devs forum. Think before you Speak.

well guess the builder of this forum tried to keep people stay here longer...or what else?

[Q] question and answer

q. why cant i post to a threat that i have questions about because im new?
a. this forum sucks, thats why. full of stuck up douches who create garbage and then yell at people to" keep reading". thats because they have no clue how to fix the crap they put out.... yeah you magnus.

trekrfc said:
q. why cant i post to a threat that i have questions about because im new?
a. this forum sucks, thats why. full of stuck up douches who create garbage and then yell at people to" keep reading". thats because they have no clue how to fix the crap they put out.... yeah you magnus.
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They do know how to fix it. Chances are, you didn't read the OP, or there are obvious compatibility issues. Common sense goes a long way.
Assholes like you that contribute nothing, don't look for an answer, and then ***** to someone that has put days, weeks, months worth of work into something, then give it away for free, are the ones that pollute this forum.
You hate the forum? Fine. Go away, we don't need you here. Grow up, learn to do a search & spend more than five minutes on it, then come here and post that question if you can't find the answer elsewhere.
This is a great forum, and while some members are assholes, most are very helpful. However, if you come off immature & hostile, you're going to be met with hostility.
Oh, and the real answer to your original question... they don't want people not knowing what they're doing, posting in the Dev section. You should try answering some questions in Q&A and help people out for a change.

I have to agree! I have been reading the developers section for months, and read peoples questions and actually have the answers!!!! I DO read, but still it tells me I have to post ten times before I can post in the developers section!! What a load of crap!! How can I contribute if I have my hands tied???

gogogu said:
I have to agree! I have been reading the developers section for months, and read peoples questions and actually have the answers!!!! I DO read, but still it tells me I have to post ten times before I can post in the developers section!! What a load of crap!! How can I contribute if I have my hands tied???
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Come here, to the Q&A section and answer these questions. Answer the questions in the Q&A section for your device. You can post there. That's what I did, and still do. I'm just tired of people complaining about the rule, when instead they could be doing something about it instead of spamming the forums and whining.

Thread closed. I'm sorry to say but you have got the whole idea of XDA-Developers and it's ethos wrong. Maybe if you'd have searched and/or read more about this forum you would not post this flame thread.
Please don't repeat it. If you think this forum is garbage you are free to stop visiting it.