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Help android or winmo?????????????

uys help me out here im stuck between a Touch Pro or Magic I dont know im really tempted with the Magic but I have zero experience with Android, With winmo its like I know it straight out the box as i have just got rid of my TyTn II and flashed hundreds of different roms, i know roms are flashable on Android but is that as easy as it is on winmo? Help me out. It has to either be the touch pro or Magic no others cant afford anything better ????
Well Thank you in advance. Please Help me sort this out guys.....

Matter of prefernce and convenience really, suggest you try both and decide...both have their pro's and cons...not necessarily affecting everyone...
WM - lack of growth - been stuck with 6.5 and 6.5.x and will probably be there for another decade - till microsoft decides to give out Wm7, software compatibility and availability is good and convneient to install, and play around and reconfigure. most important for me - outlook integration...and Tomtom - cannot live without them
Android - only reason why i dont move over is the lack of GPS software and outlook integration - yea I know - there are many workarounds - but then I am not looking for them - i want a seamless integration like activesync - when that comes - I move. GPS I can overlook but am waiting for voice support on GMaps for UK - then will consider.
i suggest you pick up the phone, use it for a day/two - if you dont like - return and pick up Touchpro2 - I have been using TP2 and HD2 for ages now and dont feel the need to move on - unless something substantial comes my way - not even iphone is appealing - sorry - I dont like being tied up with chains. I like to let my phone 'evolve'
Happy hunting...

As stated above, is matter of preferences.
From my point of view I see WM as a solid business oriented OS with thousands of great apps (found here of course). and with the upcoming WP7 WM will expand even more.
Android I see it more like very young fun/multimedia OS.
So it will depend on what you want from a device
Let us know what you finally got

I really like my Touch Pro and will be getting an HD2 soon. I would say that is really depends on what you want in your phone. The big difference IMHO is that the Marketplace for Android is about 100x better…good luck.

Cool Thanks
Well you said try both so time to buy Android then =D If i dont like it then ill have to wait until i can get a new one NO MONEY =D im buying from a guy on here I hope =D depending on if my Kaiser actually gets paid for =/ well thansk guys, and i agree the iPhone is a fail if someone came up to me and said here have this for free id say fine butI wouldnt pay for one tbh I hate Apple all toghether the Macs always crash (That is definately not off subject in anyway =D) Well thanks for your help guys oh one more thing anyone know how easy it is to flash roms on Android I know its possible, is it the same as winmo?

devdarshan said:
Matter of prefernce and convenience really, suggest you try both and decide...both have their pro's and cons...not necessarily affecting everyone...
WM - lack of growth - been stuck with 6.5 and 6.5.x and will probably be there for another decade - till microsoft decides to give out Wm7, software compatibility and availability is good and convneient to install, and play around and reconfigure. most important for me - outlook integration...and Tomtom - cannot live without them
Android - only reason why i dont move over is the lack of GPS software and outlook integration - yea I know - there are many workarounds - but then I am not looking for them - i want a seamless integration like activesync - when that comes - I move. GPS I can overlook but am waiting for voice support on GMaps for UK - then will consider.
i suggest you pick up the phone, use it for a day/two - if you dont like - return and pick up Touchpro2 - I have been using TP2 and HD2 for ages now and dont feel the need to move on - unless something substantial comes my way - not even iphone is appealing - sorry - I dont like being tied up with chains. I like to let my phone 'evolve'
Happy hunting...
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I don't know that many GPS software. But on my WinMo I had Sygic Mobile Maps. Which is cross platform. Works on WinMo, Android & Symbian. I just copied everything directly over from my WinMo SD to my Android SD. 'Acquired' an APK file. And it worked perfectly and just as good as on my WinMo.
Actually, even better. On my WinMo starting it up could easily take 30 seconds. On my Android it's done in less than 5 seconds.

Wm all the way but i think Wm will not be as popular as the years go don't think Microsoft has the heart for it

kekkle said:
I don't know that many GPS software. But on my WinMo I had Sygic Mobile Maps. Which is cross platform. Works on WinMo, Android & Symbian. I just copied everything directly over from my WinMo SD to my Android SD. 'Acquired' an APK file. And it worked perfectly and just as good as on my WinMo.
Actually, even better. On my WinMo starting it up could easily take 30 seconds. On my Android it's done in less than 5 seconds.
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Yes, Sygic is one of the GPS navigation software that runs fine on Android (tested on my HTC Desire).
In addition, there are the free Google Maps with voice navigation for selected countries (Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, USA and UK).
Add to that:
* Navigon for Android
* nDrive for Android
* iGO for Android
* Copilot for Android
Is this enough for you?

Android and Windows Mobile which do you like better?
Magic is capacitive touch,but resolution only has 480*320.
Pro's resolution is 640*480.Pro display effect is better than magic.The same price£¬Acer A1 and i8000 are great too.

Android or Windows Mobile
Both of them are very good, it depends what you want from a device...if you are in Uk I would go for Htc Hero with 3Uk ...3G signal 24/7 the device is very nice, powerful and fast , fantastic media experience better then Desire and Magic. If you are a business person go for the HTC HD2 or the Touch Pro 2. They do the job. Android still my last choice anyway.. personally speaking........but you know?! the choice is yours.

Here something will help you to know members opinions on both OS´s
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QIK-Livestream

Hello guys...i need your help...
I cant find the QIK program for livestream with HD2...
Do you have any ideas?

Hi, AFAIK Qik does not have a working client for the HD2. Ironic considering it's one of the most powerful smartphones. I think they've been pressed by the competition to not support the HD2 and threatened them that they will change their terms and conditions specifically to block their software from their marketplace ;-)

Guys dont be suprised. Windows Phone will be relased soon, so im SURE, that Microsoft pressing developers to not relase apps for WM 5 and 6.
Maybe you think im crazy, but Google some in Internet. Last news informing, that Microsoft employees got free Windows Phones from they bosses, but they must everyone must write apps for this platform. M$ "fat fishes" giving even all needed STK's and tools to start programing now.
Other news is that M$ will pay to external companies if they will rewrite iPhone apps to Windows Phone.
So only future which i see for HD2 is Android ROM's.
Just use Google and find that.

[Q] Emulating Windows Mobile 6.x on Android

Hey Guys,
1) sorry if this has come up before, search-fu is weak and nothign relevant seems to come up with the "Similar threads" thing.
2) My provider has all but forced me off Windows Mobile, which is fine, since with sideloading being such a hard task on WM7, and that I would have to pay alot to get a WM7 handset and go up monthly fees too, i'm not too fussed.
So i've taken the plunge and gone for an Android phone, trouble is I have a few apps on my old windows mobile device I would love to run on Android... number 1 priority being TomTom Navigator, which yes, I could repay for, but I don't see why I should have to.
So, is there any software in the works that will let me run Windows Mobile based apps on an Android phone?
many thanks

Sorry for bringing an old topic back into the daylight, but I have the same thought. I definately need some apps of WM running on Android when I'll buy my new phone, so this kind of emulator would be a major reason to switch from my outdated Touch Pro. Couldn't something like Haret be created, just to run Windows Mobile, not Android?

There is no, for now

thanks for clearing that out, that's a pitty. But how about the future? Is it at least theorically possible to create something to have this kind of dual boot? Would Android community and developers be interesting in this?

Yeah I wish that was possible, but no.

Windows Mobile - Services - less is NEVER more.

Once again Microsoft has made the decision to scale back features for Windows Mobile users.
I received an email from Microsoft today indicating that they would be ending the service of two more Windows Mobile FEATURES.
The first service to be cut this time isn't too bad. Microsoft is terminating the Marketplace website within a few months. The site is scheduled to go offline forever on July 15, 2011. You will still be able to utilize the Marketplace mobile application to buy and download applications. No big deal right???
Then comes the decision that really chaps my hyde.
Microsoft is also discontinuing the MyPhone service ALL TOGETHER!
I don't know about you, but that was one of the features that I use frequently & even influenced my decision to use Windows Mobile instead of Android or the iPhone.
Microsoft heavily touted this feature in their information and marketing materials. One of the things I PAID FOR was the ability to backup ans sync my device information and it's location on a daily basis. Many cooks use the MyPhone service & I don't know anbody that hasn't had to use it a time or two.
Microsoft is terminating completely, the MyPhone service, both the website & the mobile device application on August 7, 2011.
This is an absolute tragedy & a terrible decision in my opinion & the opinions of all the users I personally interact with.
This was a great service & something that really set Microsoft apart from many other platforms. Say your phone died, you are out of town on business & need your contact, out came the old backup device 7 wham, minutes later you had your texts, contacts, email & documents back in your hands.
What is even more saddening, Microsoft is trying to sell us on the fact that SkyDrive is the superior product, that they are somehow helping us out & giving us a better solution to use. Where is SkyDrive mobile? Does it help me find my lost device? Can SMS & email messages be backed up & downloaded straight to my device through a neat & nicely integrated application? THE ANSWER IS NO!!! MyPhone is great for road warriors & is used by so many people I know. Not just the app, but the website that also saved this information from my previous device as well.
All I can say is that this is a MAJOR disappointment!
So, why do I buy Microsoft when they kill everything a year or two later?
Well, before this it was because I was a loyal user since the days of CE. Microsoft had a great development platform & was innovative. They really were first on the scene with barcode scanning though Elure, (Remember the stick-on magnifying glass?) It was great, but they let it die.
How about the promise of a great speach to text and search application? Tell me? No, really, TellMe. Microsoft bought TellMe & promised us this great application that first was developed for Blackberry & then never followed through with the application for Windows Mobile users.
Why is it that Microsoft develops competing technologies & then always dumps one without regard for what user want & actually use? I just can't understand why they never integrate the popular features of one service into it's successor. Why should you go out & buy WP7, The OS that took forever to come out & that they are already replacing? In my opinion you shouldn't That should tell you something, because I have been an avid supporter of Windows Mobile from the start, before the start. (Can you say Pocket PC 2002).
I am looking more & more at Android & will most likely be making a new acquisition soon.

I got the same email and althought my phone still has a till is cut off completely (the start of the move to sky drive is on the date you stated) and i also have been an avid supporter of window mobile since the early days, a user since windows CE 2002 and now a developer of applications for the platform, I suddenly feel i am presneted with a choice. Go with windows mobile or android. This presents me with 3 problems. Firstly, i have a little less than a year on my contract before i can upgrade (i can't afford to go out and just buy a new phone right now) and, secondly, i hate android with a passion. Don't get me wrong, it suits most people and i'm not a MS fanboy (boy used loosely since i'm alomst 30) but i just don't like the UI and i miss the feature set CHT brought to my windows mobile device and before that how easy it was to get around the stock windows user interface. Last of all i've not seen anything on windows Phone 7 that would sway me. I'm not an xbox user, i use copy and paste alot (i know there is an update for that coming/out) and most of all, from my reading, i need to go and buy a new WP7 HTC device to get the most out of it and most of them suck!
So what do i do? get a nokia and screw up my work rate when i'm out of the office? Go android and hate every second of my life to the point i wish i'd bought a nokia? or go with windows phone 7 for my hd2 and suffer the pain of all the bugs of porting an OS to a phone it was never designed to run on?
The way i see it, right now, after having a few beers and being on the wrong side of sober, i might as well have been pushed off a building with the words "F**k you, A**hole!"

it seems we are really few users. only 16 posts about this ridiculous decision. see thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115987&page=2

Well as you see I'm a total noob and I claim the title proudly. So while I skewed your poll a little I did find this post to be very informative. I had actually never heard of MyPhone but after reading the passionate thread that sounds exactly like what I could have been using for quite some time now. Though this may be a long shot, if you do come across a program that is comparable to MyPhone would you be willing to share? As being able to easily sync and transfer my data from phone to phone has always been my largest/ chief complaint with any phone carrier.

and MyPhone is one of the key points to WHY I have a wm6.5 phone after all.. this, and compatibility with older mobile software.
If someone finds a replacement app, I would be glad to know it too.

I'm disappointed that Microsoft is getting rid of the service. It really helped with flashing ROMs and such things. Definitely not getting a WP7 phone when I upgrade.

First of all half of this article is confusing. The part regarding the Marketplace shut down is misleading. The only thing that is being discontinued from the marketplace is the website that we can access from our browsers. According to Microsoft's own website (link is in the email, I was confused at first as well).
Next, the MyPhone service is a pretty novel idea, but it's almost one way, you can only sync to the servers, but the servers only sync to your phone, why not just use PPCBackup then if it's going to be synced to one place anyways. It makes better sense now with Hotmails ActiveSync support to use that instead, the only downside being is some data isn't synced (text messages for example, but at least contacts (primary), calendar, email, and tasks are supported). I tried MyPhone before, but the limitation of it being stuck on the MyPhone server and not being able to share it anywhere else was the reason I never used it regularly. I wish they'd upgrade the service to use Windows Live, which would be an improvement over the current syncing.

probably it's not much people knowing this.... i myself never check my live mail mail box and only know microsoft decision right now.....

Cleary this is not as big a travesty as you think it is, not to take anything away from you but WIN MO is a dead platform. People always have a hard time admitting this but there are about 12 posts on this subject so I am pretty sure MSFT is not really feeling the heat about there decision. It like seeing someone who lived a full and happy life die, you are sad but know that there time has come, much like everything WIN MO related. I recommend you pick up an Android phone and move on.

Well MS are full of broken promises and dreams, they are keen to kill WM one way or another.
They brought out Visual Studio 2010 and spouted about how you can develop for mobile platforms using Express for free... and didn't mention that not only does Express not include WM in any form, but not even the pro version supports it. (It was even pushed from 2005 standard into 2008 pro only previously).
It's ok, because they promised they'd bring out an SDK...which is..oh nevermind, broken promise. You can't even use it to port your app on to windows phone or try to develop for both...dev friendly or what!
As for the app market...just closing the website...how long before they kill the app store too for WM, you know it will come soon after. They clearly want to push any WM user kicking and screaming on to windows phone, they are trying to do that to the devs too. Imagine if you've developed an app which is on the market for WM, well MS doesn't care anymore.
What form is the transfer to SkyDrive going to take? As of now, there is no support for sms messages/contacts data (oh please don't import them into my hotmail/live account...I never use the contacts there since they were always hacked). Do I have to port them into outlook or something, because for the same reason, I don't want to keep them there either. Let me guess, you will be able to import them into your windows phone 7 device without too many problems using the nice shiny app, and there will be a WM SkyDrive app erm...never (at least from MS). Still you get 20Gb of space which you can access on the move (from a device you don't have...).
For me, I see Windows Phone 7 a bit like Vista, with WM being XP. Yes it has fancy graphics and bells, but if you aren't using the latest hardware, XP does a half-decent job in the mean time.
The plus side, well there isn't much else which MS supply, unless they start to pull SDKs and other files off their sites (I noticed a while back they've removed most of the developer info and videos etc for WM - not just moved, but totally gone).
It's not like they were updating the OS apart from through leaked builds and besides compact .net 3.5 was getting messed up more and more by the poor updates anyway. Oh yeah they promised silverlight and compact .net 4 for wm too at one point, now we know that is a pipe dream. There was talk of keeping WM in some form as a business phone device which would live alongside WP.
Really inspires me to follow them with WP7, as a user and as a dev.
Android is a good option, but I still feel there are too many unknowns with it at the moment, since it is trying to support the latest hardware it is (and needs to) keep up. It's a moving target at the moment and it's not quite landed somewhere. Of course I'll play with it, but pointless investing too deeply in it quite yet, unless you've got spare cash of course.
iOS...it's solid, but it is still due for a big shake up me-thinks (I half expected iOS5 to do that), plus I don't want an iDevice.

@bradgog
Travesty? I think you mean tragedy. ;-)

I just threw up in my mouth a little.
I really do not want to move on from WinMo. I know it's impending, but I really do not like what I see from wp7. Android looks like the better alternative at this point I guess.
Becoming so accustomed to my device with all the programs and tweaks is just going to suck to have to give up. I knew this was coming, but it doesn;t make it any easier. Hell, only 5% of devices even have physical keyboards now. Seems that nothing is tailored for my likes.

It's very a sad news !!
I don't like WP7 and i don't want WP7 !
WM with HCT OEM Apps are a very good solutions....the HD2 is actually a best seller with a lot of possibility...
Just a question.....what about professionnal ? What about the "Windows Embedded Handeld" aka WM6.5.3 ?
The professionnal never want to use this WP7, and Microsoft said after the launch of WP7 that they would to continu a branch of WM for the pro ( WEH).
So what about this ???
Maybe we could contact Microsoft

What on earth are they thinking? surely MyPhone and Marketplace can't take up too much space on |Microsofts Servers!
I have had too move to Android, not liking Windows phone at all even including the Mango 7.5 update.
Mind you i have been through this before with Windows CE, Windows 2000 Profesesional, so it doesnt really come as much of a suprise.
Im still very unhappy though

Guys guys guys ...
Did you not hear MS telling all it's existing and previously most loyal customers to go f&%k themselves when they went down the WP7 route? They're into competing with Nokia and Apple now for children's phones.
We're all gonna have to get used to Android sooner or later. Just a bit sooner than expected for some that's all.

Come on into the Windows Phone pool, water's fine over here!

It's sad that they want to kill their older system so badly.
When I bought a phone a year ago, I chose Windows Mobile over others as it fit my preferences the best. According to the sales data I saw, I wasn't the only one. Last year a lot more people bought a Windows Mobile phone than a Windows Phone one. If it is true, Microsoft's decision strikes me as strange. They still support Windows XP that is two generations behind the current OS, while they refuse to support WM that is WP's direct predecessor.

well, learn about the news yesterday and i went out to find some replacement.... it turn out that google sync is a much better option for contact sync and calendar. But still, i haven't found others online backup services that's good for text messange backup.
still, it's a shock that microsoft turn down support in less than 2 years after discontinue winmo, there are still lots of people on contract with their winmo devices.

It is indeed a travesty!!
I have a car that is 7 years old, can still get parts easily for that?
There’s Apple with their new cloud, well if you think about it we all had part of that before apple ever thought about it in myphone.
I hear they are moving some of our files / pictures etc to Microsofts cloud, then why can’t they make that function like myphone for us???
I am sure they could, but NO they want us to move on to WM7.
Why would we want to move to a service that is SO VERY CLOSED DOWN before we start.
Microsoft will push our share of their market “US” probably over to Adroid!
Shame on you Microsoft, will you listen to loyal folk.
Paul.
P.S. See you all on the other Side maybe.

who cares ?
Microsoft is dead!

[Q] mango questions

Hi, hope this is right place to ask few questions.
I never wanted wp7 device because of limitations, too bad that my little brother didn't know that and few days back, he gave me birthday present - Omnia 7
It's not as bad as I thought so, but there is some things I can't live with and now I'm not sure what to do, I mean wait for mango, or sell it while it's brand new
Internet explorer - I'm an opera user and I always loved opera mini on my wm and Symbian devices because of compression and speed on 3g, IE7 is soooo slow compared to my old Samsung i600 with OM, it takes ages to load some sites, eats too much data and drains battery - does IE9 compress data or it still loads full pages like IE7?
Picture hub - It's useless for me, I don't use Facebook or any MS services - does it finally works with other picture hosting services like picasa, photobucket, flickr...?
Onscreen keyboard - WTH means that space around it??? Even on 4" screen is too small, is there any improvement?
USB mass storage - yes or no? I don't have windows machine at home and I don't have any media on windows machine in office, Zune is not my cup of tea...I know that there is registry hack, but it would be cool
Main menu - its one big mess, is there some kind of categorization in mango? Sometimes is hard to find shortcuts
Bing - yeah, it works in US, but here in Slovakia it sux compared to google, is there a way to remap dedicated button?
Multitasking - Is there a full multitasking like in Android or Symbian?
After few days of using this crap I feel like in jail, I can't save files from web, I can only use only services connected to MS, I can't connect device to any machine but MS, I can't this, I can't that...i think that guys from Redmond had their heads deep in the ass when they was working on WP, I'm sick about it.

Well the multitasking is sorted and IE 9 is much better than IE7 but still no Opera.
So my advice is if you really can't deal with the lack of features and cannot wait for fixes sell it now.
The other things haven't been sorted yet - I'm not sure about picture hub though as I don't use it.

Thanks, I found even more limitations last few days that's bugging me and makes device useless for me. No reason to wait for mango, device is for sale.

mango 7.10 (7712)
I've installed mango 7712, Windows Phone Device Manager and
MangoB2 ZuneClient. But WPDM asks me to unlock my HTC HD7.
What should I do? Help!
(I hope soon be able to install Android)
thank you very much

Android would solve all my problems...

You really should give WP7 a chance It's smooth, and a great difference between android and WP7 is that WP7 has got hardware acceleration and android doesn't. That does make it a fast phone
It has downsides, like every phone. It lacks multitasking, in mango there will be partial multitasking.
Bing... yeah that's a problem, even here in in The Netherlands, gotta agree on that.
I don't know if you like to game on your phone, but WP7 is great for that, mostly becouse of the xbox live games
I'd say, make some comparisations to android, there are allot of topics on that! And then, make your choice

I did, but it lacks features that I use on daily basis, I don't care about games or UI speed, I want to use device in way I like , Zune sux ass, I'm happy with Linux at home and have nothing to synchronize at office where i have to use windows because of cad apps, Zune is slow even on my 6 core in office anyway, Bluetooth sux, friend tried to send me some pics from wedding and wp7 failed, USB tethering sux, does not work with w7 x64 and need to reboot device if i want to use Zune each time, 16 bit color limitation, my portfolio looks horrible on that great samoled display, gdocs for wp7 does not work with xls files, I'm not going to pay for something what is free on other platforms and does not work as should, no latitude, which i used pretty much, bing maps suxs, does not work in my region and gmaps does not locate me at all, no routing, useless, natively works only with MS services which I don't use, and does not work with 3rd party services, even my 5 years old 200mhz wm or symbian device is faster on internet thanks to compressed data and holds battery better than this joke, IE core from PC is nice maybe on WiFi, but on 3g it sux ass, I miss flash, I can live with that, but it's something that I expect from device in 2011, Google solved flash, ms won't because of minor Silverlight - that's stupid and dealbreaker for many people (imagine IE with flash, Silverlight and html5) I don't use Facebook or any social network - platform is not designed for me, it's strong in services i don't use and lacks features i use every day, even my old a200 dumbphone Sonyericsson can multitask 3rd party java apps without hassle...wp7 makes me too much trouble every day, Symbian device is still my pocket so i have 2 devices instead of one. WP7 is just microsofted iphone and that's not enough.
If anyone works on porting Android for omnia7 I'm willing to donate 50 bucks, but to be honest, it must be here this month, before I sell or throw this crap into river.

You already made your decision I'd say sell it! Since you already use linux, the synchronisation isn't worth much for you. And if you use the google services, you actually should get an android. WP7 just doesn't work for you.
I shouldn't wait for someone porting android to the omnia 7 if i were you. I've had a nexus one myself before getting an omnia, and I really liked it. I'd say, get a nexus S or a Galaxy S2, but I missed the microsoft services. (also xbox live attracts me).

Yeah, thanks for ya time, device is for sale for a few days, hope someone will take it one day,
Its shame that MS didn't go any further with wp7 compared to ios, because Omnia is nice piece of hw...