Database Info

Will This Work or Brick My Phone?

Okay my phones info is as follows:
UK Vodafone running Donut 1.6
Code:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
Now is this or is this not a perfected SPL "1.33.0007" as I cant do jack with it nor can I get any computer to recognize it when it's in fastboot connected to a PC...*sigh* (although it will when it's turned on)
Now assuming the above is correct and it is a perfected spl will the below work:
Step 1
Flash the phone with the 32A ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010) this being a higher rom version than my own from Amon_RA's thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218)
Step 2
Change the radio (any recommendations?) back to that of a 32B HTC Magic device and install CyanogenMod using the info again from a different Amon_RA thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4314039&postcount=1)
Step 3
Sit back and bathe in the glory of my finally rooted HTC Magic?
Thanks in advance for any and all help even if it's just a quick reply to tell me I'm off my trolley and it's a sure fire way to brick my phone

Has anyone managed to get anywhere with this hardware. I have exactly the same version of hardware and have not been able to get it to connect to the pc in fastboot.
I would imagine that a lot of people are in the same position, with the same hardware so could someone point us in the right direction please.

dreamsofubuntu said:
Now is this or is this not a perfected SPL "1.33.0007" as I cant do jack with it nor can I get any computer to recognize it when it's in fastboot connected to a PC...*sigh* (although it will when it's turned on)
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Yes, 1.33.0007 is a perfected SPL, but nevertheless you should get fastboot to recognize your phone. Did you properly install the Android SDK USB drivers?
Thanks in advance for any and all help even if it's just a quick reply to tell me I'm off my trolley and it's a sure fire way to brick my phone
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I had the same perfected SPL on my 32B but (luckily) with Android 1.5 CRC24.
I think it should work if you flash a "official" vodafone 1.5 CRC24 1.33.0007 image, then install flashrec on Android, change the recovery Image, boot into recovery mode and flash an engineering spl. Thats basically what I did, except for the downgrade to 1.5.
AFAIK on 1.33.0007 you should be able to downgrade without a goldcard.

Same Version
Hello everybody,
i have the same phone with the same SPL, too.
My Problem is when i try to flash the sappimg.zip with the POWER on and Volume down methode, everything wents fine.
But after reading the Update File i end up with an error like:
"Main Version is older".
Don't know what to do...
Phone HTC Sapphire (Magic) 32B Ship S-ON G
SPL(hboot): 1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
I already tryed a Goldcard, but no luck at all
Any Ideas.
I readed 2 Threads, they got a problem with theire devices,
it also was an 32B Magic and they wanted to do an update, too.
And they ended up with the same error message, so they tryed
to flash a 32A Image, and then the 32B, and it worked.
But i am worried, don't want to brick my device.
Anybody out there, with an idea?
Greeting
ZabbensX

i got the exact same problem. waiting for answers...

If you are running Donut Rom DRC92 then at the moment you are stuck. We need to wait until a higher firmware with a non-perfected SPL is released. If you are running a Cupcake Rom (starts with a C) then you can upgrade fine. I'm in the same situation after bricking my first phone using a RUU (they are for 32As only). Luckily Vodafone replaced it under warranty but I have ended up with the perfected SPL.
After having root and now unable to get root I can't say I miss it much. It makes you think what do you need root for? One of the reasons was the ability to flash custom roms but no disrespect to all the Hero Rom developers but NONE of them run well on a 32B Magic. Cyanogens software is good but what does it do that stock firmware doesn't? Any way hopefully Eclair won't be long, a new Rom will be released and we can all change to an engineering SPL and all will be jolly again.

what's ur OS ? Can HTC sync read ur device ?

No HTC Sync doesn't recognize my phone

Wayneh73 said:
If you are running Donut Rom DRC92 then at the moment you are stuck. We need to wait until a higher firmware with a non-perfected SPL is released. If you are running a Cupcake Rom (starts with a C) then you can upgrade fine. I'm in the same situation after bricking my first phone using a RUU (they are for 32As only). Luckily Vodafone replaced it under warranty but I have ended up with the perfected SPL.
After having root and now unable to get root I can't say I miss it much. It makes you think what do you need root for? One of the reasons was the ability to flash custom roms but no disrespect to all the Hero Rom developers but NONE of them run well on a 32B Magic. Cyanogens software is good but what does it do that stock firmware doesn't? Any way hopefully Eclair won't be long, a new Rom will be released and we can all change to an engineering SPL and all will be jolly again.
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Thats the reason I want to use the 32A rom as it's newer then my current rom and so it *should* hopefully flash the phone including the spl and then I can change the radio back to that of a 32B device
also what do you mean about being able to change to an engineering spl in Eclair?
Also I've never been able to get HTC Sync to work ever =[ in both xp or vista, and never been able to get the drivers working properly however I am yet to try with Ubuntu

dreamsofubuntu said:
Thats the reason I want to use the 32A rom as it's newer then my current rom and so it *should* hopefully flash the phone including the spl and then I can change the radio back to that of a 32B device
also what do you mean about being able to change to an engineering spl in Eclair?
Also I've never been able to get HTC Sync to work ever =[ in both xp or vista, and never been able to get the drivers working properly however I am yet to try with Ubuntu
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You should be able to get both fastboot and adb to recognise your phone although you won't be able to do anything. That sounds like a driver issue. If you go to the HTC website and download the latest drivers (pick the ones for the HTC branded magic) you should be ok. Try the link below.
http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=267&act=sd&cat=all
As for flashing a 32a rom then changing the radio, good luck with that after already bricking one phone I haven't got the balls to try. If you do try and it works please post here exactly what you done as many people will thank you.
Lastly what I'm waiting for is a higher rom version which will probably be eclair (Android 2.0) which comes with a non-perfected SPL. Then the devs on here can get the relentless rooter to work on our phones.

Wayneh73 said:
You should be able to get both fastboot and adb to recognise your phone although you won't be able to do anything. That sounds like a driver issue. If you go to the HTC website and download the latest drivers (pick the ones for the HTC branded magic) you should be ok. Try the link below.
http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=267&act=sd&cat=all
As for flashing a 32a rom then changing the radio, good luck with that after already bricking one phone I haven't got the balls to try. If you do try and it works please post here exactly what you done as many people will thank you.
Lastly what I'm waiting for is a higher rom version which will probably be eclair (Android 2.0) which comes with a non-perfected SPL. Then the devs on here can get the relentless rooter to work on our phones.
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Okay thanks =] will see if I can get the drivers working with Ubuntu via the Android SDK although I cant try the Goldcard method until I get hold of another memory card as I've misplaced the one that came with the phone

dreamsofubuntu said:
Okay thanks =] will see if I can get the drivers working with Ubuntu via the Android SDK although I cant try the Goldcard method until I get hold of another memory card as I've misplaced the one that came with the phone
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u cant access it unless u enable USB debugging. If u cant pass activation, then ur screwed until u activate it with 3G

hacker1 suggested this:
Okay I post this as a private message because I don't know if I can post the links to the images on an official board.
There are basically 2 methods for flashing/rooting the 1.33.0007.
Method 1:
1.Download Android 1.5 CRC24 NBH
2. rename to sappimg.nbh and copy to sdcard
3. start magic with volume down+power
4. confirm with trackball
5. If everything works ok, follow 8. on method 2
If this fails with "Main version older" then copy sappimg.nbh to a goldcard and try again. (Some brands of SD-Cards are known to be incompatible with a goldcard, so you might need to try some different ones)
If it fails to flash with a goldcard you need method 2:
1. Download Android 1.5 CRC24 NBH (if you don't have it already)
2. Download 32A Image
3. rename 2.53.707.2_-_sappimg.zip to sappimg.zip and copy to goldcard
4. start magic with volume down+power and confirm flashing with trackball
5. turn off phone
6. delete sappimg.zip from goldcard and copy the "Android 1.5 CRC24 NBH" as sappimg.nbh to sdcard
7. start magic with volume down+power and confirm flashing with trackball
8. after restarting you should now be at Android 1.5 CRC24, install flashrec.apk to phone, change recovery image, boot into recovery and flash engineering spl.
Hope this will help you.
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hasnt worked for me yet.

IsmailBhai said:
u cant access it unless u enable USB debugging. If u cant pass activation, then ur screwed until u activate it with 3G
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USB debugging was one of the first things i turned on =]

In the same mess....
I hope someone can figure this out soon, I'm also in the same boat and cannot root my mt3g. It has the following specs:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.2007 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
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I have tried the following methods...
sappimg.zip + goldcard
Model ID incorrect!
Update Fail!
SAPPIMG.nbh
Main Version is older!
No luck, just errors. Anyone got any suggestions?

xepergod said:
I hope someone can figure this out soon, I'm also in the same boat and cannot root my mt3g. It has the following specs:
I have tried the following methods...
sappimg.zip + goldcard
Model ID incorrect!
Update Fail!
SAPPIMG.nbh
Main Version is older!
No luck, just errors. Anyone got any suggestions?
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Not yet and the fact that none of the senior members are bragging any where they can do it I think we are pretty much stuck. In fact no-one is talking about trying to hack this so I think it maybe in the too difficult bin! Time to save up and get a Nexus One

nooooooooooo
Wayneh73 said:
Not yet and the fact that none of the senior members are bragging any where they can do it I think we are pretty much stuck. In fact no-one is talking about trying to hack this so I think it maybe in the too difficult bin! Time to save up and get a Nexus One
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Dream killer

32A Rom on your 32B may brick your phone
dreamsofubuntu said:
Thats the reason I want to use the 32A rom as it's newer then my current rom and so it *should* hopefully flash the phone including the spl and then I can change the radio back to that of a 32B device
also what do you mean about being able to change to an engineering spl in Eclair?
Also I've never been able to get HTC Sync to work ever =[ in both xp or vista, and never been able to get the drivers working properly however I am yet to try with Ubuntu
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*IF* you load the 32A radio and SPL and ROM on your 32B, you may only succeed in bricking your phone.
They are different devices. You can try it if you like, but be ready to throw the phone away.

dreamsofubuntu said:
Okay my phones info is as follows:
UK Vodafone running Donut 1.6
Code:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Jul 31 2009, 15:49:25
Now is this or is this not a perfected SPL "1.33.0007" as I cant do jack with it nor can I get any computer to recognize it when it's in fastboot connected to a PC...*sigh* (although it will when it's turned on)
Now assuming the above is correct and it is a perfected spl will the below work:
Step 1
Flash the phone with the 32A ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010) this being a higher rom version than my own from Amon_RA's thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218)
Step 2
Change the radio (any recommendations?) back to that of a 32B HTC Magic device and install CyanogenMod using the info again from a different Amon_RA thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4314039&postcount=1)
Step 3
Sit back and bathe in the glory of my finally rooted HTC Magic?
Thanks in advance for any and all help even if it's just a quick reply to tell me I'm off my trolley and it's a sure fire way to brick my phone
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I do not know if this helps you guys.http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/15/how-to-root-a-donut-phone-android-1-6/
All phones are diffrent I have perfect spl too and I manage to flash in fastboot.

I've found something which I think might help on a German android forum and it looks like the guy succeeded in doing something similar to what I posted originally in this thread from what I can gather from google translate
http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-hacking-modding-htc-magic/11285-flashen-mit-1-33-0007-spl.html
can anyone help me out and post a translation for me? (I mean someone who can give a translation not from a website unless it's blindingly better then google)
Current translation via google...
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it should be called "flashed with SPL 1.33.0007"
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Hello, nice forum you have here
I have the following problem:
Recently I wanted to flash my Vodafone Magic (Android 1.6 SPL 1.33.0007) with Cyanogenic Mod.
Since I have a "perfect" SPL, I've tried it with a gold card. Everything went well so far. Only apparently I had made a version for the 32A, then stood for in fastboot Ship S-OFF H and I could only make recovery for the HTC version of RA, rather than the Google version. I had taken here -> ROM v2.53.707.2 (SPL engineering had v1.33.2010) the rom but works as well and booted normally.
anyway I wanted to be the recovery of RA have wrote -> HTC_ADP_1.6_DRC83_rooted_base.zip CM 4.2.5 and later.
The flash itself went well, but I stayed in the HTC bootscreen Magic hang himself and it did nothing more.
In another forum I was told that what I have by gold card (power + vol down) flashed (the sappimg.zip) was just for the 32A, and it therefore did not go.
Jetz, I wanted to ask what am I then can take the 32B, then to flash it to the cyanogenic mod? Because irgednwie I'm a little confused at the 10,000 versions at XDA dev .....
I hope someone can help me there. I'm just glad that the phone because I did not have gebricked garkeine backup (duchzufall had found it here in the forum, the firmware vodafone stock and re-flashed)
thank you in advance
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ah, I'm stupid.
The stock firmware I had was re-flashed V1.5 .. have then by Flashrecovery the CMrecovery flashed and book now funzt everything.
no offense
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So from what I can gather this guy succeded in rooting and flashing his HTC Magic 1.33.007???????????

sappimg.nbh

hi to all!
i have an HTC MAGIC VODAFONE (32B) with donut 1.6 + perfect spl.
ROM - Build CRC24
SPL - 1.33.0007 (perfect SPL)
please somebody give to me te sappimg for this device, i cannot root it without normal metod, i need to create a goldcard

Solution: Return the phone if you can. If not then sell it. Get rid of it. I had one and at the moment you can do NOTHING to it. Buy a cheap 32A model on eBay. I am buying a factory unlocked 288MB RAM 32A model for 239 GBP.

Look for the goldcard method... I'm not sure if will work on a 32B device but you can do a search for more info...

it is possible to change the 1.5 version to 1.6?
i mean, if i try to downgrade from 1.6 to 1.5 it says "you cannot do this" so my idea is:
take cupcake rom, change version number from 1.5 to 1.6 and flash!
is this possible?

wow, erm, NO.

i solved this problem
I met exactly problem with you.
I solved it. now, my phone is spl2010 off, I can root it with any rom now!
There is no sappimg for G2 32B itself. you can just use the one for 32A.
Then rewrite radio,recovery, system, flash1, boot, through fastboot.

I love the please somebody give me... even if translated.
A simple search would have found your answer alot quicker then waiting in a forum for one. Look for Amon ras perfected SPL fix rom. make a goldcard, rename file to Sappimg.img and go through. but I doubt you have any idea what im talking about

chen_zhifan said:
I met exactly problem with you.
I solved it. now, my phone is spl2010 off, I can root it with any rom now!
There is no sappimg for G2 32B itself. you can just use the one for 32A.
Then rewrite radio,recovery, system, flash1, boot, through fastboot.
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Do u by chance have the link for 32a sappimg

Everything you need is right here!
This will take you to the Unlockr's site with every file and step-by-step instructions as to how to go through the gold card method. I can attest that it does work on 32B's. I went from 1.33.0007 to 1.33.2005 using his method. It took me awhile since I'm kind of a noob at this stuff but it worked great. Since then I've run CM 4.2.14.1, st0kes 2.1 v1.3.2, as well as Super D 1.9.2. Also was able to change the boot splash to a custom image by following those instructions and doing a little research too!
Hope this helps!

phantommusik said:
Everything you need is right here!
This will take you to the Unlockr's site with every file and step-by-step instructions as to how to go through the gold card method. I can attest that it does work on 32B's. I went from 1.33.0007 to 1.33.2005 using his method. It took me awhile since I'm kind of a noob at this stuff but it worked great. Since then I've run CM 4.2.14.1, st0kes 2.1 v1.3.2, as well as Super D 1.9.2. Also was able to change the boot splash to a custom image by following those instructions and doing a little research too!
Hope this helps!
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I tried creating a gold card however it will not let me. Will i not be able to root?

deb82swearingen said:
I tried creating a gold card however it will not let me. Will i not be able to root?
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WOW I did it. Thank u so much and they say its not possible

Rooting Mytouch Fender LE 32a/ Mytouch 1.2 UNIVERSAL ANDROOT CONFIRMED WORKING!!!

Universal Androot confirmed working. This method is no longer needed and is to dangourous for some people so please use universal androot 1.5.3+
IF READ CORRECTLY YOU WILL NOT BRICK. BUT, Since a few of you dont have that ability, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU BRICKING YOUR PHONE. There are no pros to rooting this phone yet, leave it alone if you dont know what your doing PLEASE. I beg you. You are in essence almost bricking your phone in order to root it in the first place. These arent fun and games, It is dangerous to rush this stuff
Listen.. Im more then happy to help people. BUt I fully understand why so many devs have left this place. Some of you are so utterly ridiculous with your questions, wanting someone to hold your hand. I cant sit on gtalk for hours helping you go through what should take 10 min , I have a life and kids and other things to do. I did this because I was bored and wanted to see if I could. There is not point in rooting it yet, there are no roms, nor will there be for at least a month. Please, if you cant even understand simple questions, have never rooted or even used an android phone before, please.. do not bother me. This place is insane with stupidity. I will change the tutorial in a little more detail later, but fo rnow, DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YORU DOING. IF YOUR BREAK YOUR CRAP< I DONT CARE, BECAUSE IT WASNT MY FAULT.
I am in no way an angry or mean person, but you people have given me a migraine. I see why all the rom devs hide from here so much
THERE IS NO POINT IN ROOTING THIS PHONE YET PEOPLE, SO STOP.. OMG PLEASE STOP LOL
IT HAS BEEN DONE!!! lol
After 3 days, sleepless night and 5 min from returning the phone, Together with the Awesome Cursordroid We have achieved full root of the fender mytouch/ Mytouch 1.2 revision.
Now.. Understand.. not many will have the fender Mytouch.. but this is the hardware they WILL be using in the fully confirmed Mytouch 1.2
If you do not follow my instructions fully, NOTHING WILL WORK.
Start by making a working gold card, pay VERY CLOSE attention to what the instructions for making a gold card say
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/14/how-to-root-your-mytouch-3g/
READ READ READ. DO NOT download the SAPPimg.zip file it says on that page.
Get the top fixed SPL file 2010 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4332591&postcount=1
Once you have you working goldcard (remember, apply to PHYSICAL not LOGICAL) rename the fixed SPL/rom you just downloaded to SAPPIMG.img
Put that file on your gold card
Hold volume down while hitting power
You will boot into Hboot, and if goldcard was made correcly and file is in root, it will begin to read. MAke sure battery is full or chargeing. follow on screen directions for flashing. Reboot into Hboot.
You are now screwed with a downgraded SPL and radio that do not work on this phone YAAAAAAY.
Now grab the stock radio and SPL from Cursordroid here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5451898&posted=1#post5451898
From there on follow hiw directions for reupdating your radio and spl, plus give yourself a new recovery making ROOT.
Im not good at tutorials or typing on a tiny netbook keyboard so please forgive. Anyquestions please ask and I will go into more detail
In order
Goldcard
Amen ras fixed spl rom renamed SAPPIMG.img
Boot into Hboot volume down/power
let rom install saying yes to what it says. If it works..
Now boot into your recovery through fastboot
Flash phone with stock fender rom
reboot into fastboot
back out of update when it asks and flash STOCK radio and SPL back, now reboot
your splash screen for fender IS GONE, get over it. You can make a new one later if you realllly need to.

if you build the thread they will come, oh yes, they will come.

thebluecoat said:
if you build the thread they will come, oh yes, they will come.
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lol.. I figured if I could get a thread up with all our info, maybe I could get more people interested just for the fact hat nothing now works... which means this could be the same build in the coming Mytouch 1.2 that is basicly the same exact phone as the fender.

hey, im new here but i have a rooted g1. and i've been skimming thru the fender pages.
I also work at tmobile and used my discount to snag the fender. but as of now im still using my rooted g1 which currently has a tiny scratch on it which i cant stand "hence why i got a fender".
seems to me once the new mytouches come out with the 32a and 3.5 mm jack there will be more attempting to pwn his phone.
im still fairly new to all of this soo im tryin to soak up as much knowledge as i can.
but still w/o the root. the fender still is a sweet phone haha.
idk what to do with it, it just sits in my room i havent even put my sim into it yet. im deciding either to sell it or just let it sit until it can be rooted.
i use the wireless tether too much to switch to the mytouch.
in the mean time g'luck! kinda rough for us LE owners cuz only few people have it to play around with.

This might be noob as I am not 100% sure what perfected SPL means, but I had a SPL that gave the fastboot "no remote" error.
I used an official SEA RUU that comes with a ENG SPL, then I could update change what ever I wanted.
Thought I would just through it out there.
My phone is a model A6161.

Make a goldcard.
Then try to find an official HTC RUU with version higher than 2.08.531.1 but which has an open SPL or is only Cupcake so 1-click-root will work.
If that doesn't work just try a regular sappimg.nbh, but with goldcard too.

maxisma said:
Make a goldcard.
Then try to find an official HTC RUU with version higher than 2.08.531.1 but which has an open SPL or is only Cupcake so 1-click-root will work.
If that doesn't work just try a regular sappimg.nbh, but with goldcard too.
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The problem is after days of reading and trying 5 different sapp.img every file gets the same device id failure. But I do understand having to find a higher number rom so Ill start on that quest.
So basicly what you saying is I need to find a pre rooted "offcial" rom that has and eng SPL allready or a 1.5 rom with open spl?
Ill try the 1.5 cupcake idea because the goldcard methos so far doesnt seem to work but that would make sense if we are trying to use to old a versions to root.
Looks like I have a new project for the day lol

crypysmoker said:
The problem is after days of reading and trying 5 different sapp.img every file gets the same device id failure. But I do understand having to find a higher number rom so Ill start on that quest.
So basicly what you saying is I need to find a pre rooted "offcial" rom that has and eng SPL allready or a 1.5 rom with open spl?
Ill try the 1.5 cupcake idea because the goldcard methos so far doesnt seem to work but that would make sense if we are trying to use to old a versions to root.
Looks like I have a new project for the day lol
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I've already tried that, didnt work for me, got "Invalid device ID" however, I cannot make a gold-card because I always get "damaged sd card" or windows says I need to format it right. I'm 100% sure I did it right to three different SD cards, and I still got the same error.
--edit-- if you successfully make a goldcard for this phone, Ill pm you for shipping info LOL!

crypysmoker said:
The problem is after days of reading and trying 5 different sapp.img every file gets the same device id failure. But I do understand having to find a higher number rom so Ill start on that quest.
So basicly what you saying is I need to find a pre rooted "offcial" rom that has and eng SPL allready or a 1.5 rom with open spl?
Ill try the 1.5 cupcake idea because the goldcard methos so far doesnt seem to work but that would make sense if we are trying to use to old a versions to root.
Looks like I have a new project for the day lol
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I think, your current way will not end with success.
Wrong model id or device id means, that HTC decided pick out Fender in another serie. Yes, i agree, that Fender has same SPL as Magics, but trying flash anything, that has another model id like trying flash Hero's ROM to Tattoo.
SPL ia like a computer's BIOS. SO if you flash foreign bios - your comp will probably die....
Saddened by the fact that Fender is limited edition. So it will not have big knowledgebase like Magic.

5[Strogino] said:
I think, your current way will not end with success.
Wrong model id or device id means, that HTC decided pick out Fender in another serie. Yes, i agree, that Fender has same SPL as Magics, but trying flash anything, that has another model id like trying flash Hero's ROM to Tattoo.
SPL ia like a computer's BIOS. SO if you flash foreign bios - your comp will probably die....
Saddened by the fact that Fender is limited edition. So it will not have big knowledgebase like Magic.
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While the Fender is le, the mt3g 1.2 is the same hardware, so hopefully someone will get it figured out.

chrys9989 said:
While the Fender is le, the mt3g 1.2 is the same hardware, so hopefully someone will get it figured out.
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Oh. Chances growing up.

I'm new here, but typically how do people go about getting the attention of devs? Is it just create a thread an hope enough people show interest? Should we do a roll call of how many actually are interested in rooting this phone?

thebluecoat said:
I've already tried that, didnt work for me, got "Invalid device ID" however, I cannot make a gold-card because I always get "damaged sd card" or windows says I need to format it right. I'm 100% sure I did it right to three different SD cards, and I still got the same error.
--edit-- if you successfully make a goldcard for this phone, Ill pm you for shipping info LOL!
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No.. I got the gold card made. The only reason it ever comes up as damged or reformat is because you applied the goldimg to the logical drive which is at top of list as opposed to Physical REMOVABLE DISK at the bottm. Its the only time I can get the error. but if I apply the goldimg to the logical drive it makes a perfect goldcard everytime. I tested it on aspar g1. So... its not a godl card problem lol

maxisma said:
Make a goldcard.
Then try to find an official HTC RUU with version higher than 2.08.531.1 but which has an open SPL or is only Cupcake so 1-click-root will work.
If that doesn't work just try a regular sappimg.nbh, but with goldcard too.
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Looking through here for HTC RUU roms I seem to keep geeting dragged to the hero and WinMob forums which I dont think I should be. Where exactly would I find this?
My ideas are..
Find a rom of higher version that is rooted see if it works.
Find an older 1.5 build (which is proving hard) and go from there
Try and flash the rooted fender donut over it and see the results.
My main problem with this is, I dont think its able to be downgraded past 1.6.. Just like newer PSP's cant be downgraded to 1.5

After formatiing my 2gb sandisk (which may be the problem) now when using the 98mb SAPPIMG.zip I get "Main version is older" instead of "Device id failed"
Is this a good sign to on the right track? Im going to try the 62mb SappIMG.zip from amon ra's tut as soon as its done downloading and see if theres a difference.
Now.. what does main version is older mean? The firmware or the spl/radio. if so... is there a newer version i can use/or substitute a file for the Sappimg.nbh to just install a higher version rom.
Man.. The G1 is so much easier to do all this with lol

YEEEEES. Ok. I freaking fracking diddley did it. OMG i was sooo scared.
Wooo So happy now.
I unable to update my OP and thread title if a mod can help me with that.
If noone minds I am going to post my first ever tutorial on something. this was a real pain but I am up and running on Amon ras latest rom for now. On to the recovery....
EDIT-- Got a fully functioning Manups 2.1 1.5 going. THEBLUECOAT if you want to know how to do it PM me... Otherwise give me about an hour or so and I will have a full tut posted
AHHH.. EVEN worse.. I noticed now that it says I have a 32b board NOOOO
EDIT2- Such a dumbass I didnt make a backup of the orignal. Poop.. I liked the boot image and music apps. I just wish I could figure out why all roms so far dont recognize the touch screen as being there and want me to use the track ball. Even power button has 1 option Power off lol
UMMM touch screen not working. What didnt I do?

How do I get my SDCARD to not show up under logical, its under logical but the drive says "removable disk" all I have are phones to use, would this not be possible or would I need a driver replacement

thebluecoat said:
How do I get my SDCARD to not show up under logical, its under logical but the drive says "removable disk" all I have are phones to use, would this not be possible or would I need a driver replacement
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you HAVE to use a card reader. thats where your problem has been. You have to use a card reader so that it sees the reader AND the card seperatly. So in hex, you dont see Logical drive then a row and then Physical and a row?
Im not pissed... I had the 2010 eng spl... trying to flash roms. No rom would use touch screen. so started over and ened up with a 32 b board now and a perfected spl again.... lol Argh... trying through it again now.

crypysmoker said:
you HAVE to use a card reader. thats where your problem has been. You have to use a card reader so that it sees the reader AND the card seperatly. So in hex, you dont see Logical drive then a row and then Physical and a row?
Im not pissed... I had the 2010 eng spl... trying to flash roms. No rom would use touch screen. so started over and ened up with a 32 b board now and a perfected spl again.... lol Argh... trying through it again now.
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Ok, so how did you get the spl changed? and what did you flash that was 32b?

chrys9989 said:
Ok, so how did you get the spl changed? and what did you flash that was 32b?
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I used Amen ras newest Fixed spl fix 1.33.2010, made my gold card, renamed that file to SAPPIMG.zip, went into Hboot and it flashed without a problem.
I then rebooted into Hboot seeing the new Info.. Didnt look at the 32a/32b part yet so not sure if it happened there.
It then rebooted into whatever rom that file came with (look for Amen ras Fixed spl thread) the rom came up, with no tocu screen. only the track ball worked.
I rebooted and stupidly jumped right into flashing a couple of the new clair builds from king and.. the othe rguy lol. neither had touch support. I then went back to update to manups newest and used the 32a port file, and no touch screen...
I then rebooted and flashed the amen ra rom and rebooted into a Mytouch boot loop... went into Hboot and had a perfected spl and S-on. ARGH.
Just started from scratch again. Im really wondering why i loose touch screen support and why in the hell it say 32b now

**SOLVED** Consolidated Info to HOPEFULLY Root Rogers 3.05.631.7 ROM-updating via RUU

(If ROM installed via official HTC RUU- RUU_Sapphire_Rogers_WWE_3.05.631.7_R_release_signed_NoDriver.exe)
UPDATE!! **SOLVED** April 25, 2010
Download new RUU
http://www.multiupload.com/XQEH9NVGY7
Flash with Goldcard method http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
1. Download RUU linked above.
2. Install update using RUU.
3. Turn on phone and connect to computer.
4. Get RA recovery and SPL also linked above and drop them to sdcard root directory.
5. Run SDK: adb shell
6. Install recovery: flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery-RA-hero-v1.6.2.img http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561124
6. Turn off phone and turn on again holding Power+Home. RA Recovery should appear.
7. Flash zip from sdcard.
8. Use file: update-hboot-1762007-signed
9. Done. PSPL broken.
10. Build a shrine for orange_24
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**Not Successfully Rooted: Feb. 2, 2010 (AFAIK)
I decided to start this thread because the info for again obtaining root, for those of us dumb enough to update to the official Rogers ROM 3.05.631.7 via the RUU, is all over the place in about a million different threads. My hope is that we can organize it all in 1 place.
At this point, yes, we all know we were impatient and newbs and everything else. Ok, lesson learned. So, lets move forward and try to get this thing rooted.
If you are a developer who has the talent to help root this ROM and have lost interest in the Magic or moved on to the Nexus One or Droid, we ask that you please try to spend a few moments on this and help out those of us who are really stuck here. Personally, I'm getting pretty desperate and thinking of even replacing the phone.
Please post what you've tried in attempting to again obtain root, your failures and hopefully successes.
*One Click Root: http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-root-the-htc-magic-in-one-click/ Cant' back up Recovery.img Error(Tried clicking the hidden Star next to "Back Up Recovery" and skipping this step...and just flashing recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img. Didn't work either) Tried with Amon_RA Hero recovery.img also, without success.
*Tried downgrading to Rogers' last official ROM via the RUU for (Rogers)_RUU_Sapphire_Rogers_WWE_2.17.631.2_release_signed_NoDriver.exe RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
*ADB: Will see the device, initially, but a command of "adb remount" kills the connect. same with "adb root" **EDIT
*Fastboot: Error- Does not allow access
*Relentless Rooter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556200 No luck obtaining root
*Fix Perfect SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218&highlight=create+gold+card With one GoldCard getting Update Fail error that SAPPIMG is older than one installed. When trying the other GC, get Update Fail Error that Model ID is incorrect. Tried 2 different micro sd cards, one Sandisk and one Patriot. The card was recognized by my pc after I was done creating the GoldCard, so unless I'm doing something wrong the GC was created properly. Is the goldcard.img supposed to dissapear or remain on the card after your copy/paste write/save to the sd card disk?
* Tried RUU for RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.04.401.2_HTC_AT_test_signed_NoDriver.exe http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625108 RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed or Device ID was wrong. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
*Tried RUU for RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.05.401.3_release_signed_NoDriver.exe http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621415 RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed or Device ID was wrong. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
*Tried RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Asia_WWE_2.53.707.2_SEA_test_signed_NoDriver.exe RUU would not let me proceed because the ROM was older than the one installed or Device ID was wrong. Attempted several times both with and without a goldcard installed.
I've probably tried a few more methods to obtain root. Those were all fails, too. I'll post the links, as well, when I find them again.
Hopefully this thread will lead us all in the right direction.
Here is the link to the same topic in the HTC Dream Forum-in case they find out something that might help us out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625732

i guess its time to play doctor with my new phone from rogers and swap the board from my old one.....

considering nothing works, i think any new idea would be a good idea

novadoc said:
considering nothing works, i think any new idea would be a good idea
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like i said my idea was to swap my old motherboard into the new phone

you can give it a shot
but personally, unless you know exactly what your getting into, i wouldn't mess with the hardware

novadoc said:
you can give it a shot
but personally, unless you know exactly what your getting into, i wouldn't mess with the hardware
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i already did it lol im more of a hardware then software

I know it might be nothing but when the Rogers RUU unpacks the img file loads as sappdimg and not sappimg. I don't know if the extra d in there means anything or if its something that shows up later.

I also try every method above and not luck also...

is there a possible way of tricking the system... with a higher build number and SPL with a custom installation from files that I see from one of the post where rogers send the user some files because they were running Win7?

I think that's the problem
We have the highest spl# and its perfected
So until someone gets their hands on a higher version than ours that is imperfect or engineering...
We are SOL, although I am hopeful someone is working on this for us.

shael said:
i already did it lol im more of a hardware then software
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Did it work?

I have an Rogers HTC Magic and I didn't apply any update from Rogers since I bought it on June 2nd.
It's very strange that "adb devices" doesn't see the device?
have you enable the "USB debugging" ?
That part should work (when the devices is started).

novadoc said:
Did it work?
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pfft ya ofcourse it worked... i have my older motherboard with my old rom and my old info all i did was swap the screen and case.... done deal... 5 min job lol

Would someone please report the radio and SPL versions (for the result of the 3.05.631.7 update)?

feisty_noodle said:
would someone please report the radio and spl versions (for the result of the 3.05.631.7 update)?
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apphire pvt 32a ship s-on h
hboot-1.76.0010 (sapp50000)
cpld-12
radio-6.35.10.18

feisty_noodle said:
would someone please report the radio and spl versions (for the result of the 3.05.631.7 update)?
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apphire pvt 32a ship s-on h
hboot-1.76.0010 (sapp50000)
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radio-6.35.10.18

Well, until it gets cracked, here's something that will make you feel a little better about being stuck on this ROM.
Google Search by Voice, installable .apk from Euro Android Market. Just run the installer through Astro, etc., and G Search by Voice is back on the Search button of your phone. You might need to launch the app first via the icon in the app tray, then reboot the phone to make the search button recognize its there. But it will be there.
http://www.eclosion-android.com/com.google.android.voicesearch.apk
BTW, not my link in case mods want to get involved.
Enjoy!

i think the first step would be to getting ADB working again
any ideas?

novadoc said:
i think the first step would be to getting ADB working again
any ideas?
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I can used adb devices to see my connected htc magic.... but other function permission not allow...

Is this thread in the Dream Forum a path to follow to try, or just a good way to brick your Magic? I haven't fully read through it to see if this is to keep root, if you already have it and flash the Rogers Dream ROM for data/ or to regain root if you flashed the official Rogers RUU with a Dream. The post says should work on all Rogers phones, but i feel a brick coming on for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5480955&postcount=416

RUU USB boot screen

Hi,
I thought id flash my 32b with the latest rom today, so i downloaded it off here (said it was for a 32b) and flashed my phone...
1: its not for a 32b its for a 32a
2: its now stuck in RUU USB mode
3: i can communicate to it with fastboot but can not load a recovery file as it just hangs where it should have rebooted into the recovery image,
4: its using 1.76.0009 spl which is a perfect one.
5: PLEASE does anyone know how i might be able to UN-Brick my phone ?
6: I cant make a gold card as i can't get the CID for my SD card
PLEASE HELP

EDIT: There is an update on HTCs UK site. Just download and install that and you should be fine.

thanks for the reply,
Unfortunately im from NZL and my serial number doesnt work
and my phone is a 32b and that update is for a 32a

Used Haret to get CID
I also bricked my Magic yesterday, using an official RUU.exe. And I had the same problem in obtaining the CID, but luckily I could get around it as follows:
I still have an old HTC Touch Cruise (aka Polaris 100) and installed an Android version which booted from Haret. Once it was running I could obtain a terminal window and do a cat for the CID file. I tried to access it via ADB, but that did not succeed.
There are several distributions described in the Polaris forums, your mileage might vary with other models.
So if you know somebody with an HTC phone (WM) try to find an Android distribution for it, put it on your SD card and run haret. It is non-destructive and allows you to read the CID. After obtaining the CID, I reformatted the SD card and folowed the instructions here: Create gold card.
After inserting the Gold card, I could continue the RUU update and now I have a Magic with HTC Sense.

thanks for that, im glad to see im not alone, im trying to find a program for linux / mac / windows which will give me my CID for my SD card but can't find one anywhere
When you put the goldcard in and turned your phone on it boot from it automatically ?

gymmy said:
thanks for that, im glad to see im not alone, im trying to find a program for linux / mac / windows which will give me my CID for my SD card but can't find one anywhere
When you put the goldcard in and turned your phone on it boot from it automatically ?
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If u have a nokia hacked can use the ReadCID aplications.

thanks i have found a friend with a touch HD on android so i am going to get that tomorrow and make up a gold card ,... Ill report back with the results.
Thanks to everyone for your help todate

gymmy said:
thanks i have found a friend with a touch HD on android so i am going to get that tomorrow and make up a gold card ,... Ill report back with the results.
Thanks to everyone for your help todate
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hello, I had the same problem with the help of my colleagues from the Bulgarian, I fixed it without gold for cadets karta.Chek you just made the phone had such a site where you are setting up your serial number and go to where it e.sled enter the site and the HTC looking for old phone si.Download to update it if you go with the serial number if you do not poke around the net, Russians are brothers powwow original RUU, most important is to find for your original RUU telefon.Shtom find it, you put the USB cable and it puskash.This of me I hope I helped you

Wait... how did you manage to install a RUU for 32A on a 32B without goldcard?

sindrefyrn said:
Wait... how did you manage to install a RUU for 32A on a 32B without goldcard?
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my platform is 32A end I dont creat cold card just a original RUU from HTC sait
my phone is TIM brandet and i download TIM RUU and my phone downupgade then

Just an update to how the recovery is going
Well i created a goldcard which has fixed my issue with the Custom ID check and i have managed to Down grade my hboot to 1.76.0008 and my radio phone is still having a personalliy issue and thinks its a 32a and its NOT !! when it gets to unzipping the system it just hangs there, in fact it sits there all day until the battery dies and indicator doesnt shift on phone from 0 so with the RUU it makes it to 81% if i can get a sappimg for a 32b which desent flash the system but only the radio and hboot would be great (I think) , issue is that when i try and make one, it comes up with Signature Verfiy Fail
HELP

Not even 32A users can downgrade 1.76.0008 right now except for the SU edition, which you cannot boot. You have a brick.

The same problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlH_yhgRiwo

I have found a way around that im now working again, its all about the order that things get flashed to your phone.
I found an RUU that flashed everything 1st apart from the rom which is flashed last. As long as you have a gold card you can do this.
When it gets to flashing the system over its crashes... thats ok, take the battery out of your phone and reflash, your 32a s-on H becomes a 32b s-on H and then the system will flash over ok.
So... I have a skitzo phone at the moment with a saudi rom on it, but at least its working... HOW EVER.... these bloody alarms keep waking me up to do my prays hahahaa i thought that was kinda funny...
SO... now i just need to copy a sappimg onto my gold card and flash off that which ill do tonight
Ill give a full detailed HOWTO with links to the files once im back to normal.
Its taken me about 3 full days and about 3gig of downloads to get this sorted. If you dont have a gold card then your SCREWED... well not totally you need to get another phone eg android or a windows mobile 6.5 with eaRET on it works also

gymmy said:
I have found a way around that im now working again, its all about the order that things get flashed to your phone.
I found an RUU that flashed everything 1st apart from the rom which is flashed last. As long as you have a gold card you can do this.
Here's why I thought you had a definite brick:
When it gets to flashing the system over its crashes... that's ok, take the battery out of your phone and reflash, your 32a s-on H becomes a 32b s-on H and then the system will flash over ok.
So... I have a skitzo phone at the moment with a saudi rom on it, but at least its working... HOW EVER.... these bloody alarms keep waking me up to do my prays hahahaa i thought that was kinda funny...
SO... now i just need to copy a sappimg onto my gold card and flash off that which ill do tonight
Ill give a full detailed HOWTO with links to the files once im back to normal.
Its taken me about 3 full days and about 3gig of downloads to get this sorted. If you dont have a gold card then your SCREWED... well not totally you need to get another phone eg android or a windows mobile 6.5 with eaRET on it works also
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Now I am very curious. Where did you get this RUU? I still don't see how you fixed it. I'm looking forward to seeing you detail this.
The new RUUs come in 2 zip files - the first with the radio and hboot and the other with the rest of the files. You can rename them as sappimg.zip to try to flash them from RUU, since they are signed by HTC.
However, as far as I know those RUUs are for 32A only. If you had HBOOT 1.76.0008, 0009 or 0010, you can not flash a lower version ROM even with a gold card. The SPL/HBOOT and radio combination actually seems to work on the 32B. However, you would need to be able to boot to a custom recovery somehow to do anything special. The system.img on the 32A RUUs I thought were too big for 32B. So if you were able to flash you must have had enough space on the 32B and I was wrong. I wonder why people are getting stuck though.
The reason I called a brick is because the only available 32B HBOOT have lower ROM version strings (2.x series ROM) than the 32A RUUs (3.x series ROM version string). I still don't know if 32A RUUs actually work on 32B.
You can flash the 3.05 series SPLs all you want, but they are all perfected. The only other option for the 32A Magic was booting to the leaked 3.04 ROM with SU in the system image, but you would not be able to flash that. So are you saying that it actually works?
Anyways please report back

xaueious said:
Now I am very curious. Where did you get this RUU? I still don't see how you fixed it. I'm looking forward to seeing you detail this.
The new RUUs come in 2 zip files - the first with the radio and hboot and the other with the rest of the files. You can rename them as sappimg.zip to try to flash them from RUU, since they are signed by HTC.
However, as far as I know those RUUs are for 32A only. If you had HBOOT 1.76.0008, 0009 or 0010, you can not flash a lower version ROM even with a gold card. The SPL/HBOOT and radio combination actually seems to work on the 32B. However, you would need to be able to boot to a custom recovery somehow to do anything special. The system.img on the 32A RUUs I thought were too big for 32B. So if you were able to flash you must have had enough space on the 32B and I was wrong. I wonder why people are getting stuck though.
The reason I called a brick is because the only available 32B HBOOT have lower ROM version strings (2.x series ROM) than the 32A RUUs (3.x series ROM version string). I still don't know if 32A RUUs actually work on 32B.
You can flash the 3.05 series SPLs all you want, but they are all perfected. The only other option for the 32A Magic was booting to the leaked 3.04 ROM with SU in the system image, but you would not be able to flash that. So are you saying that it actually works?
Anyways please report back
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No they dont work and hence why it bricked the phone, the good part is that it never flashed the rom so I was sweet with getting the phone back. Prior to flashing it was 32b 1.33.0010 eng s-off G, then 32a 1.33.0009 s-on H and now is a 32b 1.33.0010 s-on H... rom is 2.56.??.? which ill have to look up later when im back home either way its gone from a 32b to a 32a stuck in RUU USB (due to not enough room to flash the rom) back to a 32b which works just is all arabic.
With the GOLD card it allowed me to flash a different Custom ID on to my phone, replaced the Radio and SPL and which then changed the phone from 32a to 32b, I even reversed it and did it again to makesure it wasnt a fluke and it wasnt. if it wasnt for the fact that the order of the flashing occured the way i did i wouldnt have been able to fix it as it would tried and flash the SYSTEM b4 it would flash everything else which would make it hang !
As soon as ive rooted the current rom (which is harder than i expected due to the rom version) ill do a write up on how to fix it as there are a few steps inbetween.
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Wait so you never flashed 1.76.x did you. You just had 1.33.0009 and you typed it wrong in your first post?
If so we don't need a walk through for that. The one at unlocker.net would have served you perfectly.

what walk through was that, ill re 32a it again and ill let you know that it was.

just an update ,
Yes it was spl 1.76.0009
i have since flashed the phone with 2.56.494.7 and now have to wait until someone gets a rooted version of this rom or releases a later gold card version of sappimg.nbh or sappimg.zip to cut a long story short this is what happened.
1: flashed a Sence-IU for a 32b (but it wasnt it was for a 32a)
2: ended up with 1.76.0009 and the radio which goes along with it.
3: now reads 32a s-on H
4: made a goldcard
5: had to flash with 2.56.494.7
6: first flash of this rom replaced the SPL with 1.33.0010 (perfected)
7: screen now reads 32b s-on H
8: rom failed to flash
9: re-run the update of 2.56.494.7 and the phone flashes and reboots
10: cant root the phone until a newer version of sappimg.nbh is released
11: can use the phone but the arab applications dont allow the market
12: now its a waiting game.
Hope this helps others with bricked phone... If i had to do this again i wouldnt have flashed the 2nd time with 2.56.494.7 but instead a different RUU for the 32B this would have ment i would have been able to root the phone... Live and lean !
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I have used the guides in this post to fix a friend's 32B Magic, which he had flashed with an RUU for 32A Magic. It works just fine.