Related
Will Htc release the much hyped WM6.1 update for kaiser and what are the changes that are expected.
I wish
More faster ,
better phone functions,
better camera and video,
Most important, less of hanging !!!
It likely will, but even if it does not, you can trust your friendly modding community to cook one for you.
Shadow7789 said:
It likely will, but even if it does not, you can trust your friendly modding community to cook one for you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am pretty curious too, is there any confirmation of this...
I don't really care because Dutty will release one for sure
Way to go Dutty...
how bout the question...will kaiser get WM 7
that was what I was thinking about as well
thomassster said:
how bout the question...will kaiser get WM 7
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By the time WM7 comes out I'm sure there will be a HTC 9225 model out. And hopefully it won't have a 50 cent video driver in it!
I am for sure, WM7 will take at least another year to be released , if not more...
Else we would not have wm6.1
Most of the new handsets details that are leaked from vodafone , show that they have wm6.1
jbmorales said:
By the time WM7 comes out I'm sure there will be a HTC 9225 model out. And hopefully it won't have a 50 cent video driver in it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's hope not - apparently there's a whole team at MS dedicated to porting Zune technology to the WM platform - how sweet would that be!
The recent leaks about WM7 say that we will not see any WM7 devices until 2009 and according to the other info I have read, I don't see it coming a moment sooner. So hopefully WM 6.1 and XDA will be enough to hold us until then.
The Tilt will get it...
See here for information about the supported devices for System Center Mobile Device Manager 2008 which requires WM 6.1...
If you look up one page at http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/mobiledevicemanager/default.mspx look on the right side of the page.
Currently, the following devices will receive a software update that allows them to work with System Center Mobile Device Manager:
* AT&T Tilt
* AT&T Blackjack II
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It looks like some update is comming.
I think it will get it but it might take some time...
drgopoos said:
Will Htc release the much hyped WM6.1 update for kaiser and what are the changes that are expected.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Our Hong Kong carrier tells us "Latest updates from HTC re the new ROM development. They will launch Windows Mobile 6.1 for TyTNII in end Feb."
Windows Mobile 6.1 Feature Preview attached.
Any word yet? I just got a Touch Cruise, and it's great... but... it has enough little issues here 'n there that I'm looking forward to a ROM update. Not so much for 6.1, just a cleaner running device overall...
What i have read about the wm6.1 release its coming in next month, but when we are talking about HTC so you can never be sure about that
Darn! That was a misleading headline. Looked like an announcement rather than a query.
In the UK, we just got an official release of... what turned out to be the bog-standard WM6.0 ROM I downloaded from here when I was finished playing with custom ROMs.
hamishmacdonald said:
Darn! That was a misleading headline. Looked like an announcement rather than a query.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
same for me,,,
golles said:
same for me,,,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was happy for a while, till i saw the contents of the thread... Anyway, my touch cruise, seems to be a problem free device at the moment, of which i do not think i will upgrade to wm6.1 at the moment even if the rom comes out..
The one feature that sounded nice was the threaded SMS, but when I saw it working in practice (using one of the 6.1 ROMs) I was... less excited. It's dog-ugly.
WM Standard (non-touchscreen) received the most updates with 6.1. WM Pro has some page zooming in IE and threaded SMS, a 'getting started' feature and some under-the-hood speed improvements.
HTC will be including some improved graphic drivers, though not anything that will fully utilize the chipset. I'm hoping my GSM reception will be improved some; improved camera operation in certain light settings; and better GPS sensitivity.
I'm quite happy with the Touch Cruise, but a few minor improvements would be welcome
Looking forward to a HTC WM6.1 release as well.. so I'm hoping omaga is right with that rumour of next month
ye me too ... I wouldn't mind wm6.1 right now.
lol... 1000 views... probably most because they thought this was an announcement rather than a question ;-)
Oh, and I also want 6.1
Stefan
me too
when is it expected to be released (if any?) the WM6.1 for touch cruise mean?
According to the release WM6.1 date of Kaiser.....maybe in October this year, HTC will provide us WM6.1
just a guess~
Please change a title!!!
Can someone please change this therad Title.. its very misleading.
Does HTC have some sort of agreement going with carriers where they won't update their own branded stuff until the carriers themselves are covered?
benjimen said:
Does HTC have some sort of agreement going with carriers where they won't update their own branded stuff until the carriers themselves are covered?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My guess is that this delay is waiting for the final Opera 9.5, and any custom HTC-specific tweaks to it.
But it's just a guess. Personally, I'm disappointed in HTC -- I bought direct from them just to make sure I didn't have to go through a carrier dragging their feet on updates...and it looks like it made no difference...
Must be your first HTC device? They're always last out with the updates, no surprises here...
kevsteele said:
My guess is that this delay is waiting for the final Opera 9.5, and any custom HTC-specific tweaks to it.
But it's just a guess. Personally, I'm disappointed in HTC -- I bought direct from them just to make sure I didn't have to go through a carrier dragging their feet on updates...and it looks like it made no difference...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Jesus Christ people!!! How do you come up with these post titles.... thought it was for real.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414011
Got this e-mail from HTC_Europe yesterday
I'm sure this is in the wrong place, but it does have a lot to do with the Hero ROM porting that's goign on here. HTC Brazil's website is showing off the Magic with Sense. Anyone come across this built yet? I'm sure it will work a lot better than Hero ROM ports since it's official from HTC! http://htcsource.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=732&Itemid=51
Great news!!! Thanks for that Nick.... really looking forward to the official release
Damn i was hoping the brazillian magic phone had our low ram. Would this really change anything?
salivating... hope it can be made into a suitable rom for 32a soon
farbird said:
salivating... hope it can be made into a suitable rom for 32a soon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We are just waiting for a Brazilian person to extract it and we can have it too (I think so).. I was reading it and there's good and bad news!!!
Good:
Is really the 1st HTC Sense Ui officially on a Magic!
Bad:
All stores from the Brazilian market listed on the HTC website from the link there, hasn't the equipment available and only the TIM network are promoting the Android phone and asking for filling a form for a pre-release/information (I didn't feel it) about an Android phone (I think it can be the Magic).
soooo.. any brazilians got it !! if not HURRY THE F UP!
slackwaresupport said:
soooo.. any brazilians got it !! if not HURRY THE F UP!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I doubt it~! I didn't see for sale it yet on any of the authorized HCT Brazilian shop!! We will have to wait, maybe the release date is the same that our so WANTED update will be released!
that sucks.. so does anyone have a magic with a hero rom that is fast.. and you are satisified with it?
I will not be satisfied till our ui is up to speed with the ones in iphone..
I can get nooo..
satisfaction...
farbird said:
I will not be satisfied till our ui is up to speed with the ones in iphone..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure any Andrid UI will ever be as fast as the iPhone. The iPhone UI is only an icon list and that's pretty much it. We'll need a Snapgragon powered Android phone from HTC to acheive a no-lag Sense experience.
i am excited about this. having a native sense ui made specifically for the magic is good news and hopefully will improve performance since we dont have to port from the hero to the g1 to the magic. once it's released we just need one of the devs to root it for us haha then we can install like a normal rom, i think, right? i dont want to lose root to install this.
ricardomega said:
All stores from the Brazilian market listed on the HTC website from the link there, hasn't the equipment available and only the TIM network are promoting the Android phone and asking for filling a form for a pre-release/information (I didn't feel it) about an Android phone (I think it can be the Magic).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HTC will release the Magic in Brazil only in the 2nd half of October. And IIRC TIM Brasil will launch BOTH the Magic and the Samsung Galaxy.
cesarcardoso said:
HTC will release the Magic in Brazil only in the 2nd half of October. And IIRC TIM Brasil will launch BOTH the Magic and the Samsung Galaxy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Obrigado Cesar
Since HTC controls this.. it sounds like it will be as well the time as well that we will have our so DESIRED HTC Sense UI updates! But, anyway we'll see..
Hope that I'm wrong in the good way (that they release first the update, since is already made)! One month to go..
midway october is still 3 weeks away , hope someone get a piece before hand and can make a dump and put it up for people to breakdown.
can't wait ! Singapore's one is releasing on Nov, one month later of wait
NguyenHuu said:
i am excited about this. having a native sense ui made specifically for the magic is good news and hopefully will improve performance since we dont have to port from the hero to the g1 to the magic. once it's released we just need one of the devs to root it for us haha then we can install like a normal rom, i think, right? i dont want to lose root to install this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nativ or not. the problem is the same...
the htc magic in brasil is using 288 mb of ram.
its good for the 32a users but 32b has the same problem as now
even tho it has 288 mb ram , it will still be a better port of Sense as compared to the current one which is of a whole different model , so this would have lesser bugs and im sure with some swap in place it would be pretty snappy for those who have the 32B as well
The main benefit I see from this is that the LED and Bluetooth issues should finally be resolved.
naplesbill said:
The main benefit I see from this is that the LED and Bluetooth issues should finally be resolved.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
probably part of LED fix is most likely a fully functioning trackball blink/notification
Hello I am new to the forums. I was wondering, I have the sprint TP2 and wanted to upgrade to the WM 6.5. Is it possible to do this? I was reading through the forums but was unsure if this was able to be done for the CDMA versions yet. If so what Flashing utility is the best to use and also what ROM and radio is the best. I have never upgraded before and could use your help. Thank you for your help
No. Not yet.
jrezak321 said:
I was wondering, I have the sprint TP2 and wanted to upgrade to the WM 6.5. Is it possible to do this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sprint has said that they will not officially release an update until early 2010. [pcmag.com]
jrezak321 said:
I was reading through the forums but was unsure if this was able to be done for the CDMA versions yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apparently you didn't read past the first 1/4 of the screen. I can still see 2 windows mobile 6.5 upgrade specific threads on the first page. Make sure you do a search before posting another thread about this.
AstarteSV said:
Apparently you didn't read past the first 1/4 of the screen. I can still see 2 windows mobile 6.5 upgrade specific threads on the first page. Make sure you do a search before posting another thread about this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dude, don't be an ass. It's his first post.
Here's the skinny.
1. When the Official 6.5 update is uncertain. Though PCMag said 2010, I have a hard time believing that with the AT&T Tilt already selling with it. The windows mobile 6.5 update page says Oct/Nov for TP2, but we don't know if that means all versions. I'm guessing it means the different versions of it will be available throughout Oct and Nov. Just a guess.
2. Unofficial upgrades (hacked roms) to 6.5 are not possible for the CDMA version yet (Verizon and Sprint). In order to do it, you need the HardSPL bootloader. This is in development and hasn't been completed yet. When it does, we'll be able to load on any rom we want to the TP2. However, there might be a bit of a learning curve.
Let me know if you need anymore help (maybe PM me) and I'll be happy to.
Here is a couple of suggestions:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1224088#post1224088
The above link is for updates to the completion of HardSPL from PPCGeeks.
If you twitter, follow: mightyrom
Mike is very good on updates and the ROM for my Diamond was as solid as anything. I am sure his Touch Pro 2 ROM will be great as well.
Mightyrom.com
Sprint will be releasing wm 6.5 by the end of November. It isn't Sprint we are waiting on it is HTC we are waiting on.
Idiot
AstarteSV said:
Apparently you didn't read past the first 1/4 of the screen. I can still see 2 windows mobile 6.5 upgrade specific threads on the first page. Make sure you do a search before posting another thread about this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When someone ask a question just answer them, don't be a butt dude.
bigchico68 said:
Sprint will be releasing wm 6.5 by the end of November. It isn't Sprint we are waiting on it is HTC we are waiting on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would have to see some hard proof on this . There is so much rumor and conjecture, unsubstantiated rumors are something we do not need.
Hey super first post answered all the questions that i was wondering about
You don't need "Help!!" so don't yell like you do.
Jeezus.
bigchico68 said:
Sprint will be releasing wm 6.5 by the end of November. It isn't Sprint we are waiting on it is HTC we are waiting on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wonder why HTC since they releasing european version as we speak. Hope its soon 6.5 has so much better drivers.
I was speaking to the manager of North America via phone the other day. I know, but it was related to a few tickets I had submitted to HTC directly, and since they had not been resolved, he touched base with me directly via phone.
We went back and forth on an item or two about two weeks ago, and on Saturday I believe, when he called, I asked when it might be officially known when these updates would roll out.
He couldn't confirm what phones it would be rolled out for and when, but he said the official announcement would be in 1-2 weeks tops.
Hey, it's not accurate or a promise, but at least it's a window to deal with.
bostonshaker said:
I would have to see some hard proof on this . There is so much rumor and conjecture, unsubstantiated rumors are something we do not need.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I too have been told by a reliable souce inside at sprint that it will be sometime in Nov. They have it now and are testing and tweaking it. They wont release it unless its ready.
On Microsofts web site they are saying it will be released October 2009/November 2009. I too just got my TP2 on Sprint and can not wait to upgrade to 6.5.
Below is the link on Microsoft's website where it say they will release 6.5 for the TP2.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
Strange
I don't understand why HTC is having such a problem with this. Isn't the Imagio essentially the same phone? Other than no hardware keyboard and a 5 Megapixel camera?
Why can't they just cuplicate it for the Touch Pro 2?
BetaMan said:
I don't understand why HTC is having such a problem with this. Isn't the Imagio essentially the same phone? Other than no hardware keyboard and a 5 Megapixel camera?
Why can't they just cuplicate it for the Touch Pro 2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why do you assume it's HTC that's holding things up? Most likely, it's Verizon/Sprint. They have to customize and test the ROMs before releasing them. The ROM HTC released is for the unbranded European device which includes no vendor customizations.
BetaMan said:
I don't understand why HTC is having such a problem with this. Isn't the Imagio essentially the same phone? Other than no hardware keyboard and a 5 Megapixel camera?
Why can't they just cuplicate it for the Touch Pro 2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would have to say it is the carriers. They just released updates for the non-carrier phones. Carriers are well known for these issues.
This is now possible with Mighty Room, or the likes, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98
I just spoke with Verizon customer service and they have no idea when or IF our Touch Pro 2 will get the Windows 6.5 ROM update.
They tell me this just as they released the same phone minus the external keyboard (Imagio) with Windows 6.5 already installed!
Guess we need to keep waiting.........
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
UPDATE: I sent HTC an email asking about the update and this is their response:
Thank you for contacting HTC about updating the Verizon Pro2 to Windows Mobile 6.5.
I understand wanting to keep the device up-to-date. Regretfully, HTC does not currently have a software update for your device. The carriers request all software updates for the devices that they offer from HTC. Once the carrier contacts HTC about updating the software or changes to the devices, HTC’s Research & Development Team work with same department from the carrier to create the software. When and update is created it is tested by the carrier and then HTC host the software on our web site for download by customers free of charge or at http://www.pcdphones.com/uts_downloads.aspx. The updates are individually adaptered for each device and carrier.
You can also visit www.hctwiki.com for self-help and to participate in a survey.
Thank you,
Kay
HTC Technical Support
www.htc.com
www.htcwiki.com
I wish their response was that Verizon was currently testing the new ROM. Instead, it seems that HTC has not even received the request from Verizon to get a new ROM ready....... Now I wonder if I should have gotten the Imagio instead.......
i think we are definately going to see the hspl before we see any stock 6.5 roms. and once we get the hspl then its all custom after that anyway. it woulda been fun to play with 6.5 while waiting for the hspl, but oh well
someone from ppcgeeks posted a reply from HTC Support saying they are just about to startdeveloping the new 6.5 Rom updates...so its gonna be awhile if that is true
I was talking to the Verizon guys yesterday and the one I was talking to said there were rumors of the end of this month, but it depends on something with Microsoft. I'm not so sure he understood what I was talking about though, so take it with a grain of salt hah.
chewie1890 said:
but it depends on something with Microsoft.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
haha. playing the blame game.
verizon customer service
yea verizon just told me the same thing this morning from vz customer service and tech support both said they see nothing in the system and know nothing about a 6.5 rom upgrade its a shame these carriers just dont want to put any effort into the phones
jpspiderman said:
yea verizon just told me the same thing this morning from vz customer service and tech support both said they see nothing in the system and know nothing about a 6.5 rom upgrade its a shame these carriers just dont want to put any effort into the phones
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. I dont know what it is like at every carrier...but this phone (HTC TP2) is getting rav reviews and selling out here in the states.. I don't get the lack of motivation...
DragonNote said:
Agreed. I dont know what it is like at every carrier...but this phone (HTC TP2) is getting rav reviews and selling out here in the states.. I don't get the lack of motivation...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's the cynic in me:
A: They've already sold the phone, and they're selling like hotcakes so why change it... then again why put the effort in if they weren't selling? haha
B: Funny thing about them selling out, the local "Premium VZW dealer" (Not actually verizon) doesn't stock HTC phones and only stocks blackberries as they are easier to use... which is funny because they've lost selling at least three premium phones in the last couple weeks amongst my friends.
I am getting tired of winmo bashing.
I actually talked to their tech support a few days ago and he said that it was in the cards, but there wasn't an official date yet. Perhaps they're modifying the ROM for their services *shrugs*
Nah eff that, if verizon does some stupid modifying for there server, i really hope we get a hard-spl soon. I never really cared if we did itd be nice ofcourse. But thats why verizon phones suck so much is there damn way they do there stuff.
I would imagine that they would want to push out 6.5 to the few thousand people who have 6.1 Touch Pro 2's. I'm sure they don't want to have to support both 6.5 and 6.1 on tech support as it would increase costs. Hopefully, the hold up is related to tweaks HTC and Verizon are making to fix the annoying little things. Maybe we'll see the update when the TP2's get back in stock as they probably want all of them to be the same.
I just talked with a couple of verizon business reps and its rumored internally with the company that the 6.5 rom will be released the end of OCT. Microsofts website states OCT/NOV.
normalguy said:
I would imagine that they would want to push out 6.5 to the few thousand people who have 6.1 Touch Pro 2's. I'm sure they don't want to have to support both 6.5 and 6.1 on tech support as it would increase costs. Hopefully, the hold up is related to tweaks HTC and Verizon are making to fix the annoying little things. Maybe we'll see the update when the TP2's get back in stock as they probably want all of them to be the same.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It seems to me a little weird that they all of a sudden where out of stock a few days before 6.5 and the new Imagio phone. I think like on the Storm they have just taken them out of circulation and when they return the new ones will have 6.5 and we will have a new ROM. This happened twice with the Storm when it got updates to the Blackberry OS. It was out of stock for 3 weeks when the current update was rolled out then all of a sudden it was in stock again and the update was on their site. I'm kinda wandering if when we get 6.5 we are also gonna see the phone having VCast TV like the Imagio. Its probably hardware capable. Of course its been out for three years now and its still only in the same 20 markets with a promise of more to come that entire time.
why
I don't think they're going to release 6.5 for the TP2 ever. Why bother? They can't even manage their own website half the time. Obviously they don't have the resources to upgrade stuff for 'free'.
Plus, even if they did, I wouldn't bother, assuming XDA cracks this bastard.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be HTC to release the update anyway??
Got 2 ROM ups for my Titan before, so..........
gliscameria said:
I don't think they're going to release 6.5 for the TP2 ever. Why bother? They can't even manage their own website half the time. Obviously they don't have the resources to upgrade stuff for 'free'.
Plus, even if they did, I wouldn't bother, assuming XDA cracks this bastard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My previous Verizon phone was an XV6800 (Titan) and they came out not with one, but with TWO ROM upgrades during the time I had it, so I have hope that we will get the upgrade soon. Check this website, they have Vendors ROMS for many phones. Hopefully we will see the TP2 listed soon!
http://www.pcdphones.com/uts_downloads.aspx
RecTorum said:
My previous Verizon phone was an XV6800 (Titan) and they came out not with one, but with TWO ROM upgrades during the time I had it, so I have hope that we will get the upgrade soon. Check this website, they have Vendors ROMS for many phones. Hopefully we will see the TP2 listed soon!
http://www.pcdphones.com/uts_downloads.aspx
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There will be a 6.5 rom update available for our phones. It's just a matter of when. Some say it could be another month or two.
RecTorum said:
My previous Verizon phone was an XV6800 (Titan) and they came out not with one, but with TWO ROM upgrades during the time I had it, so I have hope that we will get the upgrade soon. Check this website, they have Vendors ROMS for many phones. Hopefully we will see the TP2 listed soon!
http://www.pcdphones.com/uts_downloads.aspx
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Almost forgot to mention this as well, I had a titan myself, a very useful but unfortunately very underpowered phone. Anyway, in case anyone missed this, here's the estimated time for the 6.5 ROM updates for the TP2's
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
RecTorum said:
My previous Verizon phone was an XV6800 (Titan) and they came out not with one, but with TWO ROM upgrades during the time I had it, so I have hope that we will get the upgrade soon. Check this website, they have Vendors ROMS for many phones. Hopefully we will see the TP2 listed soon!
http://www.pcdphones.com/uts_downloads.aspx
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You stated exactly what I was going to say to him. With the XV6800 sure it was locked out of several things (e.g. GPS) and what not but all ROM updates were FREE to download from the site. Also as most have seen they have released the 6.5 ROM over in Europe, so it is only a matter of time before Verizon releases the ROM. Oh and for those that don't know it is Verizon who choose the date at which to release the ROM, HTC and Microsoft only provide the software.
Anywho...my TP2 rocks and I can't wait for the ROM to be released, 6.5 is an excellent upgrade from 6.1 as far as finger friendly, and touch screen go.