Ok, So I had dutty's rom running perfect for about 5 months. Decided I wanted to revert back to the stock ATT rom and play with it. I tried to revert and somewhere along the way, I did a soft reset and it screwed me up. I can still flash roms no problem, but for some reason, when the phone goes to start up, it gets to the first screen of the boot process (white with ATT logo) and then it freezes. After about 10-15 seconds, it automatically soft resets and tries again. So, I can hit the reset button while holding cam and pwr to get to the bootloader. I have tried flashing every rom I have downloaded, and nothing seems to work. I am trying the stock ATT rom as I type this but we will see what happens. That is what I was running when it F'd. I wanted to restore it to stock completely, thought about trying to have it replaced because the hinge is really loose on my handset. Anyway, any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
boot command from mtty reads:
Cmd>boot
InitDisplay: Display_Chip=1
Fill RSVD information for block 288 to 309
Storage start sector=0xAB80, total sector=0x10740
Storage start block=707, total block=1053
Total Bad Block in CE: 0
Erase physical block from 995 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 1045
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
No card inserted
OSSIPreLoad ++
Try this
Try flashing this ROM and see what happens.
http://www.4shared.com/file/3857459...ULAR_WWE_157_-_Originaly_Shipped_ATT_ROM.html
What does your bootloader screen show?
Please Help!
Okay. I tried to flash the OEM rom back to my ATT Tilt. While doing this, somehow my phone entered an unending cycle of soft resets. I can still get to the bootloader, but as soon as I flash a rom, it tries to boot, gets to the first boot screen, then resets. My computer keeps popping up "install drivers for new hardware found".
I tried booting through MTTY, no dice.
My bootloader screen reads:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.01OliPof
CPLD-8
I tried flashing hardspl. RUU opens and it runs instantly. The phone reboots and the boot loader screen still reads this. I flash a new rom, the bootloader still reads this. I'm at a loss. I've been working on this for 3 hours and I haven't gotten anywhere. I don't have a backup phone, so I have to figure this problem out. I have searched the forums and haven't found anyone with the same problem. Please, anyone who feels they can help, let me know what I can try to fix this problem. Thanks!
Threads merged.
Metzex08 said:
Ok, So I had dutty's rom running perfect for about 5 months. Decided I wanted to revert back to the stock ATT rom and play with it. I tried to revert and somewhere along the way, I did a soft reset and it screwed me up. I can still flash roms no problem, but for some reason, when the phone goes to start up, it gets to the first screen of the boot process (white with ATT logo) and then it freezes. After about 10-15 seconds, it automatically soft resets and tries again. So, I can hit the reset button while holding cam and pwr to get to the bootloader. I have tried flashing every rom I have downloaded, and nothing seems to work. I am trying the stock ATT rom as I type this but we will see what happens. That is what I was running when it F'd. I wanted to restore it to stock completely, thought about trying to have it replaced because the hinge is really loose on my handset. Anyway, any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Some people go to far ahead before figuring out the real issue. Don't **** yourself.
Hold down your power, camera, and insert your stylus then tell us what your bootloader screen displays.
Metzex08 said:
Okay. I tried to flash the OEM rom back to my ATT Tilt. While doing this, somehow my phone entered an unending cycle of soft resets. I can still get to the bootloader, but as soon as I flash a rom, it tries to boot, gets to the first boot screen, then resets. My computer keeps popping up "install drivers for new hardware found".
I tried booting through MTTY, no dice.
My bootloader screen reads:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.01OliPof
CPLD-8
I tried flashing hardspl. RUU opens and it runs instantly. The phone reboots and the boot loader screen still reads this. I flash a new rom, the bootloader still reads this. I'm at a loss. I've been working on this for 3 hours and I haven't gotten anywhere. I don't have a backup phone, so I have to figure this problem out. I have searched the forums and haven't found anyone with the same problem. Please, anyone who feels they can help, let me know what I can try to fix this problem. Thanks!
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ok post was moved from another thread. sorry. It appears that you do have hardspl installed.
Metzex08 said:
Okay. I tried to flash the OEM rom back to my ATT Tilt. While doing this, somehow my phone entered an unending cycle of soft resets. I can still get to the bootloader, but as soon as I flash a rom, it tries to boot, gets to the first boot screen, then resets. My computer keeps popping up "install drivers for new hardware found".
I tried booting through MTTY, no dice.
My bootloader screen reads:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.01OliPof
CPLD-8
I tried flashing hardspl. RUU opens and it runs instantly. The phone reboots and the boot loader screen still reads this. I flash a new rom, the bootloader still reads this. I'm at a loss. I've been working on this for 3 hours and I haven't gotten anywhere. I don't have a backup phone, so I have to figure this problem out. I have searched the forums and haven't found anyone with the same problem. Please, anyone who feels they can help, let me know what I can try to fix this problem. Thanks!
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and your bootloader screen will not change because it does not display the rom version. You have hardspl installed what more do you want?
Did you believe your bootloader screen would change after you flashed a rom?
Damn!!!
Metzex08 said:
Ok, So I had dutty's rom running perfect for about 5 months. Decided I wanted to revert back to the stock ATT rom and play with it. I tried to revert and somewhere along the way, I did a soft reset and it screwed me up. I can still flash roms no problem, but for some reason, when the phone goes to start up, it gets to the first screen of the boot process (white with ATT logo) and then it freezes. After about 10-15 seconds, it automatically soft resets and tries again. So, I can hit the reset button while holding cam and pwr to get to the bootloader. I have tried flashing every rom I have downloaded, and nothing seems to work. I am trying the stock ATT rom as I type this but we will see what happens. That is what I was running when it F'd. I wanted to restore it to stock completely, thought about trying to have it replaced because the hinge is really loose on my handset. Anyway, any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Dude it has been five months since you flashed a rom why bother getting all neurotic and worried For a common situation? I complained to mods because they closed your thread now I look like a douche bag. Thanks.
I had the same problem (continuous reboot) as before, see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383678
but the problem that I had is because of bad blocks, post your info 8 and maybe I can help
ok, I got the phone to startup, eventually it stopped trying to soft reset. I hit the power button and it turned on. Now, I run jumpspl and it doesn't ever bring up the USB connection, so I can't change the bootloader back to oem. any suggestions?
I used the other version of jumpspl (1.56) and it brought up the USB connection (atleast it says it did). But, when I try to run RUU from the ATT_SPL folder it cannot connect to my phone. MTTY says USB connection is unavailable as well. What should I do?! I want the phone to be able to be sent in for warranty replacement as the hinge seems to keep getting looser and looser. Any ideas? Bootloader still reads the same as before.
Metzex08 said:
I used the other version of jumpspl (1.56) and it brought up the USB connection (atleast it says it did). But, when I try to run RUU from the ATT_SPL folder it cannot connect to my phone. MTTY says USB connection is unavailable as well. What should I do?! I want the phone to be able to be sent in for warranty replacement as the hinge seems to keep getting looser and looser. Any ideas? Bootloader still reads the same as before.
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If your sending it for warranty replacement via AT&T just put it in the microwave for 2 seconds....problem solved.
I am unable to get into boot loader mode.
I've pressed camera + power and reset as usual but it won't go into bootloader it just boots the phone up.
I managed to get into bootloader mode using a KaiserCustomRRU and then it picked up the new ROM from the SDCard but when i press power to flash the rom nothing happens.
I can still boot into windows mobile and the power button works when I press it there.
I only got this kaiser a day ago is it possible this is a new version or something?
Please help!
Harsesis said:
I am unable to get into boot loader mode.
I've pressed camera + power and reset as usual but it won't go into bootloader it just boots the phone up.
I managed to get into bootloader mode using a KaiserCustomRRU and then it picked up the new ROM from the SDCard but when i press power to flash the rom nothing happens.
I can still boot into windows mobile and the power button works when I press it there.
I only got this kaiser a day ago is it possible this is a new version or something?
Please help!
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Are you fully pressing the Camera button, it has two levels, it must be presses in fully and help whilst you restart your phone with the stylus (or turn on if the phone is off).
Off Topic:
This makes a nice change, helping someone into bootloader, rather than someone stuck in it.
Dave
Yup I'm pressing it down super hard, I've had the kaiser since it came out so I know I'm doing it as usual. For some reason it isn't working this time.
I had lots of trouble flashing HardSPL aswell! Now this problem with entering boot loader. This is getting irritating .
Harsesis said:
Yup I'm pressing it down super hard, I've had the kaiser since it came out so I know I'm doing it as usual. For some reason it isn't working this time.
I had lots of trouble flashing HardSPL aswell! Now this problem with entering boot loader. This is getting irritating .
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Does the Camera button work normally? I.e. Launches the camera in Windows.
What problems are you having with HardSPL?
Dave
Yup camera button does work normally.
I had to reset the device loads of times before customRUU noticed that the phone was plugged in.
At the moment I'm stuck in RUUNBH recovery mode in HardSPL. It detects that I have put a memory card with a KAISIMG.nbh into the phone, it says that it will flash radio, rom, splash and says press power to continue but when I press power nothing happens. Now no matter what I do I can't get out of HardSpl and I can't even flash a rom anymore
Harsesis said:
Yup camera button does work normally.
I had to reset the device loads of times before customRUU noticed that the phone was plugged in.
At the moment I'm stuck in RUUNBH recovery mode in HardSPL. It detects that I have put a memory card with a KAISIMG.nbh into the phone, it says that it will flash radio, rom, splash and says press power to continue but when I press power nothing happens. Now no matter what I do I can't get out of HardSpl and I can't even flash a rom anymore
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Check the link in my sig for getting out of the bootloader...
Dave
Thanks so much
Ok so its booting up again but I'm still having the same problem, ie it won't get me into bootloader using camera and power button.
I can't even press the 2 buttons to clear storage either, it just boots straight into the rom.
Harsesis said:
Thanks so much
Ok so its booting up again but I'm still having the same problem, ie it won't get me into bootloader using camera and power button.
I can't even press the 2 buttons to clear storage either, it just boots straight into the rom.
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Very strange...
Why do you need to access the Bootloader? To flash from SD Card?
Ta
Dave
Yup also I'm having weird problems which I think are associated with this particular problem.
When I boot up the rom lots of keys just randomly get pressed. e.g. if I have a pin set loads of characters will be put into the input box and the only way i can stop it is by pressing a hardware button.
I'm trying to flash a dutty rom which I know doesn't really have those kinda problems to see if its just the rom, although other people aren't reporting the same problem with the rom though :/
Harsesis said:
Yup also I'm having weird problems which I think are associated with this particular problem.
When I boot up the rom lots of keys just randomly get pressed. e.g. if I have a pin set loads of characters will be put into the input box and the only way i can stop it is by pressing a hardware button.
I'm trying to flash a dutty rom which I know doesn't really have those kinda problems to see if its just the rom, although other people aren't reporting the same problem with the rom though :/
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Flash back to your Original ROM, Radio and SPL. If the problems are still occuring, take it back to the shop, IMO.
Dave
Know where I can find the original T-mobile splash?
Harsesis said:
Know where I can find the original T-mobile splash?
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No Idea, try searching / asking in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
Ta
Dave
Reverted everything back to default now, still got the same problem so I'm going to get a replacement send out to me tomorrow.
Do you think there is a new version of the kaiser that messes up when you flash hardspl?
Harsesis said:
Reverted everything back to default now, still got the same problem so I'm going to get a replacement send out to me tomorrow.
Do you think there is a new version of the kaiser that messes up when you flash hardspl?
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I doubt they gave you that newer Model what doesn't work.
I think it is the SPL that figures out wether or noot to boot the OS or run the Bootloader... when loading the OS the SPL checks for what keys are pressed and goes into the SPL or OS.
If Hard SPL and the OEM SPL fail to load the bootloader, there must be something wrong with the device IMO.
Ta
Dave
Harsesis said:
Yup also I'm having weird problems which I think are associated with this particular problem.
When I boot up the rom lots of keys just randomly get pressed. e.g. if I have a pin set loads of characters will be put into the input box and the only way i can stop it is by pressing a hardware button.
I'm trying to flash a dutty rom which I know doesn't really have those kinda problems to see if its just the rom, although other people aren't reporting the same problem with the rom though :/
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I have the same problem with key press, it happened after a recent flash to a new rom.
I have found out what keys it is in my case. It is the "button 6" (voice recorder) and "edfc".The last are just endlessly pressed. Anybody knows how to fix this? My temporary fix was to remap button 6 to "rotate screen" but it is really anoying. I would like to just disable button 6, until I can return it, if there is no fix.
The problem has persisted over 3 roms now (PV rom (8 oct by medkid) - where it all started, Garmin 4.3 and now hyperdragon III 6 oct)
any help will be greatly welcomed!
I've had the great misfortune of bricking my phone within the first few hours of owning it. I should have known something was up, it wouldn't reboot when I changed the language to English, and I'd have to hard reset it (delete everything) and then let it load in Chinese again. Well, in an attempt to fix what I thought was a rom issue, I went through the song and dance of trying to root my phone.
I'm still not fully clear on how to do it, as it seems there's more to it than just what the tutorials say.
Anyway, like the title of this thread says, there's a pretty good way to figure out if your phone is really bricked, no need to ask or wonder anymore.
If your phone only boots to the htc magic screen (and then stops), and is unable to load bootloader, fastboot, usb connections, or anything else, it's bricked. 100%. You have to take it back. Don't bother searching the forums for the answer, I've wasted hours going through every related thread and trying every possible solution. Without the ability to access the fastboot screen, you're out of possibilities. Untill someone comes out with an unbricker which goes deeper than fastboot, there is absolutely no way to fix it.
A semi brick is much better on the other hand. There are plenty of ways to fix your phone, provided you're only semi bricked. I would define semi bricked as being able to enter fastboot, but being unable to boot the phone as normal. This can happen with a bad flash, or a mis step during a tutorial. I'm not exactly sure how easy it is to change a semi brick to a full brick, but my full bricking happened after semi bricking it while loading a new rom on it.
So. to summarize, if your phone WON'T go into the boot menu by pressing vol-down+power, you're in need of a new phone.
If you can still get into the boot menu, and access your phone through usb, you're ok, just get help (via a tutorial) before going any further, unless you're completely certain of what to do next.
Tis a shame to send a device, which is physically undamaged, to the digital graveyard. But such is life.
Caid.
444.
EDIT
on a side note, before my phone reset itself into it's endless loop of unloading, I noticed the screen flash an image of a box with what looked like a red arrow coming out of it. It was right in the center of the screen. This was in the recovery-RAv1.0H.img menu. What's that all about?
Did you try other key combinations such as Home+Power, or Back+Power?
I'm sorry but I think you're misunderstanding it all a little bit...
Caid444 said:
I've had the great misfortune of bricking my phone within the first few hours of owning it. I should have known something was up, it wouldn't reboot when I changed the language to English, and I'd have to hard reset it (delete everything) and then let it load in Chinese again. Well, in an attempt to fix what I thought was a rom issue, I went through the song and dance of trying to root my phone.
I'm still not fully clear on how to do it, as it seems there's more to it than just what the tutorials say.
Anyway, like the title of this thread says, there's a pretty good way to figure out if your phone is really bricked, no need to ask or wonder anymore.
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It's easy if you follow the guides... I did it in two different phones with no problem at all in any of them... Anyway, let's stay on topìc
Caid444 said:
If your phone only boots to the htc magic screen (and then stops), and is unable to load bootloader, fastboot, usb connections, or anything else, it's bricked. 100%. You have to take it back. Don't bother searching the forums for the answer, I've wasted hours going through every related thread and trying every possible solution. Without the ability to access the fastboot screen, you're out of possibilities. Untill someone comes out with an unbricker which goes deeper than fastboot, there is absolutely no way to fix it.
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Wrong. If your phone boots to the HTC Magic screen, the bootloader is doing it's job. The bootloader just takes you there. The linux kernel and ramdisk takes you to the boot animation, and there is where android really starts.
If your phone shows the first htc logo, or the Vodafone branded screen, you can start in bootloader mode. To make that you just have to remove the battery, put it back, and press and hold BACK + END KEY. From that, you can fastboot.
Also, and unless you destroyed the recovery partition, you can also boot in recovery mode, by pressing END KEY while holding HOME (no need to keep them both hold, just home button)
Caid444 said:
A semi brick is much better on the other hand. There are plenty of ways to fix your phone, provided you're only semi bricked. I would define semi bricked as being able to enter fastboot, but being unable to boot the phone as normal. This can happen with a bad flash, or a mis step during a tutorial. I'm not exactly sure how easy it is to change a semi brick to a full brick, but my full bricking happened after semi bricking it while loading a new rom on it.
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I would call a semi brick this:
Your phone goes into an endless loop while booting.
Your phone gets stucked on the first boot logo.
You can't get access to the recovery partition.
Your phone boots all the way but then gets stucked.
Your phone gone bad during a software update.
That, all, can be solved by reflashing the affected region. There are tutorials for everything but if you need I can write some hints on each case (I suffered them all ).
Caid444 said:
So. to summarize, if your phone WON'T go into the boot menu by pressing vol-down+power, you're in need of a new phone.
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Actually, VOLDOWN+POWER starts in Hboot mode. From there you can go back to fastboot mode, but hboot is used to make a software upgrade using complete images or running htc diagnostic images (SAPPDIAG.IMG, SAPP*.IMG /NBH).
Caid444 said:
If you can still get into the boot menu, and access your phone through usb, you're ok, just get help (via a tutorial) before going any further, unless you're completely certain of what to do next.
Tis a shame to send a device, which is physically undamaged, to the digital graveyard. But such is life.
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If you can't get USB working on fastboot mode, or on recovery mode, your phone has probably a hardware fault. It happened with some of the first revisions of the Vodafone branded magic, don't know about htc branded ones though..
NOTE: Not talking about missing drivers, if you don't have drivers, that's another problem, but the computer should at least detect the device. Also, if your phone is off, and you connect the charger (or usb) and the orange led lights up, the bootloader should be ok.
Caid444 said:
on a side note, before my phone reset itself into it's endless loop of unloading, I noticed the screen flash an image of a box with what looked like a red arrow coming out of it. It was right in the center of the screen. This was in the recovery-RAv1.0H.img menu. What's that all about?
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That's the recovery mode. With that you can unbrick your phone
Also, as another hint, if you're new to linux OSes, you might want to take a look at some manual on terminal commands. If your main software is bricked, it's possible that your SDCard doesn't get mounted on recovery mode, depending on wich recovery image you're running. Provided you have an update.zip on the sdcard you need to run, you might have to mount it manually.
To do that, you have to start the phone in recovery mode, and run an "adb shell" on the PC.
When you have a shell opened, you'll have to mount the sdcard manually:
mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard
Then, on the phone you can use the option to run sdcard update.zip to restart the software upgrade procedure.
Regards!
Before I reply, I'd just like to say thank you very much for your extremely in depth reply.
biktor_gj said:
I'm sorry but I think you're misunderstanding it all a little bit...
It's easy if you follow the guides... I did it in two different phones with no problem at all in any of them... Anyway, let's stay on topìc
Wrong. If your phone boots to the HTC Magic screen, the bootloader is doing it's job. The bootloader just takes you there. The linux kernel and ramdisk takes you to the boot animation, and there is where android really starts.
If your phone shows the first htc logo, or the Vodafone branded screen, you can start in bootloader mode. To make that you just have to remove the battery, put it back, and press and hold BACK + END KEY. From that, you can fastboot.
Also, and unless you destroyed the recovery partition, you can also boot in recovery mode, by pressing END KEY while holding HOME (no need to keep them both hold, just home button)
I would call a semi brick this:
Your phone goes into an endless loop while booting.
Your phone gets stucked on the first boot logo.
You can't get access to the recovery partition.
Your phone boots all the way but then gets stucked.
Your phone gone bad during a software update.
That, all, can be solved by reflashing the affected region. There are tutorials for everything but if you need I can write some hints on each case (I suffered them all ).
Actually, VOLDOWN+POWER starts in Hboot mode. From there you can go back to fastboot mode, but hboot is used to make a software upgrade using complete images or running htc diagnostic images (SAPPDIAG.IMG, SAPP*.IMG /NBH).
If you can't get USB working on fastboot mode, or on recovery mode, your phone has probably a hardware fault. It happened with some of the first revisions of the Vodafone branded magic, don't know about htc branded ones though..
NOTE: Not talking about missing drivers, if you don't have drivers, that's another problem, but the computer should at least detect the device. Also, if your phone is off, and you connect the charger (or usb) and the orange led lights up, the bootloader should be ok.
That's the recovery mode. With that you can unbrick your phone
Also, as another hint, if you're new to linux OSes, you might want to take a look at some manual on terminal commands. If your main software is bricked, it's possible that your SDCard doesn't get mounted on recovery mode, depending on wich recovery image you're running. Provided you have an update.zip on the sdcard you need to run, you might have to mount it manually.
To do that, you have to start the phone in recovery mode, and run an "adb shell" on the PC.
When you have a shell opened, you'll have to mount the sdcard manually:
mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard
Then, on the phone you can use the option to run sdcard update.zip to restart the software upgrade procedure.
Regards!
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To the first answer.
It's not THAT easy, the guides are kinda (you should already know what you're doing at this point) in nature. It's confusing for newcomers, as we've no idea what to expect, that and there are a multitude of variations. More specification as to which guide works with which model, and which updates would be nice.
As for the second part, I could not get the phone working with any button variation pressed. I'm sorry I was not more clear in my description, to begin with. I could press (and hold) any button (or buttons) + power (end key) and the phone would just vibrate (briefly) and then display the original screen "htc magic"(endlessly). The orange light does come on when plugged into the usb or computer, but only while it is off, as soon as the device turns on, the light turns off.
Another thing of note is that, after bricking it, I had to remove the battery to turn it off (every time if it was on), and if I put the battery back in while it's plugged into the usb port of the computer, the phone would turn back on without pressing any buttons. It's also completely unresponsive or detectable by my computer after bricking it. The only other thing I can get it to do is make the orange light blue by holding the action button and turning on the device. That way the light on top of the device is blue when it turns on. Still unresponsive at that point.
This is my first android device, but not my first htc device (I've had MANY MANY different ones.) so I'm a bit familiar with trying different combinations to get a response.
I am not the first person who's had this happen, unfortunately. There have been a couple others, who've described the exact same encounter. Perhaps it's a mistake that I made, and perhaps they also made it themselves. I would like to figure out how it's happening, though, and perhaps write a tutorial for people like us unlucky few.
Again, a really big thanks. I've sent my phone back and am getting a new one soon. I much appreciate your reply, however, as it's probably the most understanding and considerate reply I've seen on these forums.
Cheers.
Caid.
444
One more quick question out of curiosity, when you press and hold back and press end to turn on the device (it still goes to the htc magic screen) SHOULD it go to a different screen, other than the "htc magic" screen? Or is that a process that runs without some sort of visual notification on the device itself?
The usb was completely unresponsive after this happened, but in the event that bootloader may have been running, (only possible if it runs without any visual notification on the device itself), I'll go pick up the device and see if my usb drivers on my computer just became unresponsive after being accessed too many times. Sometimes windows does that, right? Perhaps a reboot would have allowed fastboot and the drivers to connect again, if the device was trying to talk to the computer, but I just didn't know on account of not having any notification.
So, again, should pressing back and power bring me to a different screen? or would it also look like it was hanging on htc magic screen?
Caid.
444
p.s. Sorry for the confusing wording, I'm tired and trying very hard to be as specific as possible.
back+end/power should lead you to the fastboot screen right after it shows the HTC Magic screen or whatever splash screen you have installed.
Home+end/power should lead you to the recovery screen.
ok, it was bricked. Thanks for the answer.
Caid.
444
Caid444 said:
Before I reply, I'd just like to say thank you very much for your extremely in depth reply.
To the first answer.
It's not THAT easy, the guides are kinda (you should already know what you're doing at this point) in nature. It's confusing for newcomers, as we've no idea what to expect, that and there are a multitude of variations. More specification as to which guide works with which model, and which updates would be nice.
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No problem, we all should be here to learn, and to help (except for the trolls)
This is the guide I followed for both Vodafone branded Magics: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
Maybe not for now, but for the next magic you get it may come handy
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As for the second part, I could not get the phone working with any button variation pressed. I'm sorry I was not more clear in my description, to begin with. I could press (and hold) any button (or buttons) + power (end key) and the phone would just vibrate (briefly) and then display the original screen "htc magic"(endlessly). The orange light does come on when plugged into the usb or computer, but only while it is off, as soon as the device turns on, the light turns off.
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When the phone is off with the charger connected and you press the power button, the light goes off, as for the others, you really should be able to enter the SPL if it could the magic bootlogo and vibrated upon boot...
Maybe you didn't try enough or maybe your bootloader behaved differently than mine... I should be more clear anyway, to get to the bootloader, the best way to make it go to the bootloader is press and hold back key, then while holding it, hold the power button too. It should take about a second or two before showing the three skater droids.
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Another thing of note is that, after bricking it, I had to remove the battery to turn it off (every time if it was on), and if I put the battery back in while it's plugged into the usb port of the computer, the phone would turn back on without pressing any buttons. It's also completely unresponsive or detectable by my computer after bricking it. The only other thing I can get it to do is make the orange light blue by holding the action button and turning on the device. That way the light on top of the device is blue when it turns on. Still unresponsive at that point.
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When you put the battery while USB or charger is connected, the phone boots up, that's the normal behaviour. About the blue led, that's the Radio bootloader. That's quite dangerous to play with, but it gives a lot of other functions. Another sign that your phone wasn't completely dead Even if you wipe the SPL (the three skater droids), you may be able to boot into the Radio bootloader and write or boot another one to fix it. But that's waaaay harder
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This is my first android device, but not my first htc device (I've had MANY MANY different ones.) so I'm a bit familiar with trying different combinations to get a response.
I am not the first person who's had this happen, unfortunately. There have been a couple others, who've described the exact same encounter. Perhaps it's a mistake that I made, and perhaps they also made it themselves. I would like to figure out how it's happening, though, and perhaps write a tutorial for people like us unlucky few.
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I guess the first advice when you start tricking with a phone is be careful with what you're doing. That's the good thing of fastboot.
When booting on fastboot mode, you can pick, for example a recovery image, and boot it without overwriting the original rom:
Code:
fastboot boot [recovery_image]
Then, when you see it's working, you can flash it:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery [recovery_image]
fastboot flash boot [boot_image]
fastboot flash system [system_image]
fastboot flash data [data_image]
You can't do that with the system.img since it's too big, but you can do it also with a boot.img
About the key combinations on the phone, it goes like this:
Code:
BACK + END KEY -> Fastboot mode (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
VOLDOWN + END KEY -> Hboot mode (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
ACTION (trackball center) + END KEY -> Radio Bootloader (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
HOME + END KEY -> Recovery mode (you should see the boot logo, then get the recovery menu)
SEND + MENU + END -> Reboot the phone (while the phone is on)
Maybe there are more (android has kind of 'safe mode' but I don't know it it goes there automatically if there's a problem or if it has to be called manually)
Anyway, I hope these things will be useful for the next phone, and for anybody who's a bit lost on this
Regards!
Let us know where you live , so maybe one can help you , I live in Sweden and will be glad to help you if you are near ;-)
Hey! Thanks again for all the help, and the offer to come help. Unfortunately, I'm in China. Coming here from Sweden (although it's a single large landmass) would take quite a bit of time
I appreciate all the support, though. Very cool community we're building here for the magic.
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444
htc semi-brick?
Hi to all. I'm in the same condition described in this tread; after installing SPL i get the htc block in Vodafone brand red screen.
None keys combination bring me to the boot menù. Only Action(trackball) + power have effect, but with a black screen...
Any suggest?
What do you do if you can boot into fastboot but can't flash anything because absolutely everything gives the error "FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)"?
I have a card reader and have tried just about every sappimg.zip, every boot.img, every recovery.img i could find. I can't even boot a recovery img because the screen just hangs at the HTC Magic logo.
I don't know what kind of warranty i have on this thing, but i might take it in tomorrow and see if i can get it replaced. I've only had it for just under two weeks.
Newbie need help
ok so i can still go to recovery mode but everytime i reboot my phone the mytouch 3g logo never goes away im new to Android but not htc can somebody plz help me out.
gruppler said:
What do you do if you can boot into fastboot but can't flash anything because absolutely everything gives the error "FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)"?
I have a card reader and have tried just about every sappimg.zip, every boot.img, every recovery.img i could find. I can't even boot a recovery img because the screen just hangs at the HTC Magic logo.
I don't know what kind of warranty i have on this thing, but i might take it in tomorrow and see if i can get it replaced. I've only had it for just under two weeks.
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Instead of flashing something, you boot a recovery image, and then, from there, you flash whatever you need (using adb & flash_image for example)
PS: Be a little patient, if fastboot is letting you boot a recovery image, the recovery needs to boot, and that takes a little while, and while it's booting, you see the bootlogo until the menu appears. Also, you can try running adb shell after boot process started to try to get an error message (or at least to know if the thing is booting in some way)
I couldn't boot any recovery images. I had tried a few different Hero ROMs but decided i wanted to use Cupcake again because i have a 32B board and it just doesn't have enough RAM, though Swapper makes it usable at least. I don't know what exactly i did, but i've learned a lot from my mistakes. Everything i tried failed the signature check because the hboot version didn't match. If i could just flash the 1.33.2005 hboot again, i would have been in business, but no matter which recovery image i tried, it just sat there doing nothing. And believe me, i waited.
Fortunately, T-Mobile gave me a new device after i took it in and played dumb. And I just rooted it =]
Caid444 said:
ok, it was bricked. Thanks for the answer.
Caid.
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Why not flashing it with an RUU from HTC. Not sure that would work but it is worth trying.
Hi there, people!
First of all, thanks because while I was reading ur posts I realized that my phone had been bricked, 100 %
I tried official ROM upgrade to Android 1.6 using the folowing steps
1. Copied radio zip to my sd card by renaming it in update.zip
2. Recovery screen was started by pressing HOME+END key
3.Applied update.zip, process was going on: Opening package, verifing package, installing radio...and message about success was shown and phone restarted
4. Phone stucked on HTC Magic logo screen...15 minutes
5. I removed a battery, put it back and tried to reach recovery or boot mode again
6.Unsuccessfully! Phone vibrates and turns on...but always stucks on the HTC Magic screen
7. USB does not recognize my phone is connected (I tried any adb and fastboot commands)
8. So, I just pray to give me a new phone if my warranty will be accepted
iivanovic said:
Hi there, people!
First of all, thanks because while I was reading ur posts I realized that my phone had been bricked, 100 %
I tried official ROM upgrade to Android 1.6 using the folowing steps
1. Copied radio zip to my sd card by renaming it in update.zip
2. Recovery screen was started by pressing HOME+END key
3.Applied update.zip, process was going on: Opening package, verifing package, installing radio...and message about success was shown and phone restarted
4. Phone stucked on HTC Magic logo screen...15 minutes
5. I removed a battery, put it back and tried to reach recovery or boot mode again
6.Unsuccessfully! Phone vibrates and turns on...but always stucks on the HTC Magic screen
7. USB does not recognize my phone is connected (I tried any adb and fastboot commands)
8. So, I just pray to give me a new phone if my warranty will be accepted
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I have the same problem. I get up hboot and fast boot menus can not get it in recovery. try to add in sappimg but no luck
I'm having the exact same problem...
Any solution yet?
Hello! I can assure you that your phone is not fully bricked! Awhile ago I flashed a new radio only to discover that I hadn't done my research and was a complete and total idiot. I flashed the 1.76.xxxx on a 32B. It didn't like it. I got a quick HTC logo that disappeared then the phone never responded again. When I say never responded it was dead. no combination of buttons would get any response. If you can get into fastboot you have options. All that's necessary is to make sure you have the appropriate sappimg file. Try the Unlockr's gold card method file. He has a .zip file that may work for you. Just make sure that you find an image that is compatible with your board (32A or 32B). Hope this helps!
I installed HardSPL and checked to make sure it installed fine, ect. Then I went and downloaded this ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497699
I established an activesync connection and then installed the ROM, waited until it was 100% done and it reset itself. The next time it booted up, it stuck at the AT&T logo screen. I read somewhere to hard-reset when you get to the part where you configure the stylus... wanted to get back to a working phone, I hard-reset and formatted. When I reboot it still sticks at the AT&T screen, with the 3 colums of orange letters on the bottom.
Did I do something wrong, and what can I do?
Thanks.
get back to the tri-screen bootloader (hardspl, turn the phone on, volumedownkey+centerbutton+reset) , reflash the rom...
Is your phone cdma? If so, then, yeah, you did something wrong.
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get back to the tri-screen bootloader (hardspl, turn the phone on, volumedownkey+centerbutton+reset) , reflash the rom...
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The part where it says it will delete all information, ect. ect. and then it takes a few seconds and says restore complete VolUp to reboot?
I tried that and it yeilded the same results, and I just tried again now and it still sticks at the AT&T screen.
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Is your phone cdma? If so, then, yeah, you did something wrong.
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I should have specified, it's a GSM phone. The AT&T Fuze.
I also updated the OP with a working link, didn't realize it linked back to the ROM Development page. =/
Thanks for the suggestions though. I'm hoping I didn't do anything I'll regret, I can't afford to have an expensive paperweight right now.
go into bootloader (volume down and reset button) until u see the tri color screen. then connect the phone computer using ur usb cable and you should see something on the bottom of the screen that says "usb" now try flashing a ROM again.
flash the stock rom, then try reflashing the custom rom again!
Same thing happened to me with a Energy Rom so I just had to choose a different version of it and it worked
Hey guys, I tried unlocking my phone but I think I ruined everything LOL.
Basically now, the phone only boots to the AT&T screen and restarts, over and over. Only turns on if connected to USB.
I followed the Kaiser Sim unlocker instructions all the way till like the 8th step and this happened. I installed the HARDSPL OLIPROF, it shows it on the tri color screen.
I can still bring it to the tri color screen, but when I connect it to computer it doesn’t show the active sync green screen (stays gray). I ran the sim unlocker again, it went to 100% complete, but phone still doesn’t turn on.
When I try to do a hard reset it stays click send, when I click send, nothing happens. I don’t know what to do. Did I permanently ruin the phone? I’ve searched Google for the past 3-4 days still can’t find an answer so I decided to post here for some help. Anything will be helpful thank you.
Your phone is fine. This part of the FAQ applies, I believe:
"*Put your phone into Bootloader and update to a 6.1 Rom first if you get a black screen after Flashing the Patched Radio*"
I had the same problem. Flash a generic 6.1 ROM such as _ATT Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship, then repeat the unlocking procedure. Instead of a blank screen, you'll see the correct prompts on your phone to complete the unlock.
thx 4 the info. i was gettin ready to try to unlock my tilt.
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Your phone is fine. This part of the FAQ applies, I believe:
"*Put your phone into Bootloader and update to a 6.1 Rom first if you get a black screen after Flashing the Patched Radio*"
I had the same problem. Flash a generic 6.1 ROM such as _ATT Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship, then repeat the unlocking procedure. Instead of a blank screen, you'll see the correct prompts on your phone to complete the unlock.
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http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
I downloaded that rom. It completed. The phone is still in the same condition. Wont even turn on unless its pluged to usb and when its plugged in usb it wont pass the AT&T screen(restarts over and over). Did i install an incorrect rom?
Also, theres no sim card or sd card in it. Does that matter for now?
Sorry for posting 3 times. But the second the rom completes, the phone automatically restarts, so I don’t have a chance to do anything. And active sync doesn’t detect it
Try flashing through SD card. Check Wiki for more details on how!
Also take battery off, wait 10 secs, and put if back on. Make sure the batter is charged as well.
you should have askdd in that thread as your question doesnt warrant the starting of a new thread. go back and ask there and good luck