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Official Htc Wm6 -- Contact Your Operator

Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!

TaurusBullba said:
Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!
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That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????

papamopps said:
That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????
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Quite different, unfortunately.

TaurusBullba said:
Quite different, unfortunately.
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I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?

papamopps said:
I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?
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That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?

TaurusBullba said:
That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?
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All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.

TaurusBullba said:
Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.
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"New OS build contains not whole files from tytn's rom, but more of them.
As i said before: camera is oem application and couldn't work on wizard. And i rebuild some modules from tytn's rom by myself to force it to work.
Im going to finish my tests of that rom, but i can say now that it has very good perfomance. It works like a charm.
Btw, it is unique rom. All roms that contains os 5.2.968 and the same build or rom version, will have my rom as base rom. So I am the first man who made t"
taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296743

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...roadmap-shows-at-least-a-june-wait-253805.php
Its going to be truth!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/19/htc-reveals-official-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-plans/
And here!

O2 UK says no...
Here is the response I received from O2 Data Support when I referred them to the announcement from HTC:
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Good Morning Terry
Thank you for your email
I am not aware at present of any Windows Mobile 6.0 upgrade options being made available for our XDA devices including the XDa Mini S in the very near future. Historically speaking O2 has only provided ROM upgrades on the existing OS and has never provided OS upgrades on any of the XDA devices. Please monitor the website link attached below for future upgrades.
http://www.o2.co.uk/xda
If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
Haroon Sacha
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK
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If you want to try and change their mind, e-mail [email protected].

papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!

Dr Puttingham said:
That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!
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Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.

papamopps said:
Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.
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Gee, what did we do before mun????

Dr Puttingham said:
Gee, what did we do before mun????
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Just stop it here - ok. Some people prefere that some that. OK? But I think there are so many discussion meanwhile about what is written and what not - that it is obviously that time goes on?!

hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)

duke_stix said:
hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)
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That seems like a good plan to me. What operator did you have in mind? We should probably pick one that has traditionally been more open to upgrades in the past. That would definitely rule out Cingular/ATT here in the US.
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.

TaurusBullba said:
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.
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I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.

papamopps said:
I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.
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No offense was taken by me. As for Faria, yes he can be a little *****y, most genius's are.. Please realize though that he DOES "butter our bread", along with others. And he DOES endure a lot of nonsense and crap. Myself, I wouldn't have come back after some of crap that he (and me in a VERY small way) have taken here.....
Now, back to the OP! I doubt that Cingular is going to be of any help, morons... I WILL say that I've seen more come from T-Mobile regarding official updates with the Wizard (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

I would vote for T-Mobile too. O2 suck for updates.

Noob

Hello Folks,
Noob just joined as I just purchased an M3100 from ebay. Its unlocked and has been upgraded to WM6. I was offered a M3100 as an upgrade (with orange) back in august but I chose the Nokia N95 instead. I'm a phone/gadget freak. Always loved playing with phones, upgrading, changine software etc. Had a few smartphones in the past and have had one windows based phone (SPV E200).
I liked it, I thought it was a nice change from the usual simple phone menus and software. Mucked about with that too, installing unlock software etc. My N95 I've already debranded and added several after market progs.
Anyway enough babbling. Followed this forum for quite a while as I've always hankered after a TYTN even though I have an N95. Had some extra cash (birthday) so I got myself one . Cant wait to muck about with roms etc. Oh yeah umm, and hi!!

A senior member with a junior attitude, very nice

Welcome to the hermes forums.
Most new members find in a short time that asking questions that have been asked already will get them flamed by other members, espically senior members.
Wait I'm a senior member....
Seriously though you will love tinkering with all the stuff here. I love it. But this is not a forum where you can introduce yourself as a new member(as you have seen)That's a HowardForums or Brighthand kind of thing..
You will hear this more than once: "read the wiki". Words to live by.
For a head start:
Install HardSPLv7 (2.10 Olipro)
Find a rom you like (cant go wrong with shaps or Vp3g)
Perhaps a new radio (gotta try em all to see if they are good/bad for your area)
Lots of guys have done great work in here, so enjoy the fruits of their labor...
Oh yeah and if you find your incall volume to low, try the vp3g with setacoustic i served up.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342174
Anyway welcome and good luck, hopefully it's your only flame....

very nice intrglctcrevfnk
I would only add one thing...
truscotsman72 should also check out THE MRVANX GUIDES for great upgrade assistance.
Otherwise, a very nice introduction to the forums. One other thought (now that I think of it) which may help explain the rather cool reception our noob friend received. These forums got their origins as an exchange of very technical information between devlopers - like the nearly-godlike Olipro, pof, MrVanx, duttythroy, sleuth, jasjamming, vp3g, schaps, faria and many, many others.... The more mundane "support-like" helpers like lowly old me is a rather new phenomenon that only starts once the ROM world gets more stable. We have achieved that in Hermes WM6 world. It is (as you have witnessed) a mixed blessing.
Either way, welcome to XDA-Developers, warts and all.

Thx guys, yeah I have the wiki page bookmarked and been reading through this site for hours. Very informative and interesting, which is why I joined. As for the welcome, it was just force of habit as with most forums you introduce yourself. Didn't mean to p*ss anybody off, just thought that was no way for a noob to be spoken to for saying hello (ok I did go on a bit). And I have the MRVANX guides bookmarked too, cheers

Well I received my M3100 this morning, nice machine, instruction book like a bible, but I'm having fun with it anyway. The GPRS doesn't work (something about settings) but google is my friend, oh and Device Information is:
Rom: Pro Black 3.0.1
Radio: 1.16.00.00

truscotsman72 said:
Well I received my M3100 this morning, nice machine, instruction book like a bible, but I'm having fun with it anyway. The GPRS doesn't work (something about settings) but google is my friend, oh and Device Information is:
Rom: Pro Black 3.0.1
Radio: 1.16.00.00
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I assume you are in scotland? In your profile you can save what carrier and location you are. Helps for others to know in case you need help.
There is a page around here somewhere that has connection settings for different carriers somewhere....
I'll add it to this post when I find it.

Its ok, I got the GPRS settings from this site by searching, its up and running now. I can surf the net, only problem I have now is, how to disconnect when done surfing. I guess I should RTFM
As for Device Info, yeah I'm gonna stick it in my sig

Htc Sapphire (Magic) or HTC Dream (G1)

Hi, this is my first post
So, I want to buy an Android device.
Which one would you choose?
I see that there's more Dream Android's Developing than Sapphire developing;
also the different versions of Sapphire (Roger's, Vodafone, HTC Branded) are... messy...
What's your opinion?
Sorry, my english is kind of weird

Welcome to the forum
You have great choices!
I would go for Dream just because the keyboard!
It is a must for me

orb3000 said:
Welcome to the forum
You have great choices!
I would go for Dream just because the keyboard!
It is a must for me
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I totally agree, virtual keyboards are lame.

Who do I have to pay and how much?!!

I need a custom ROM for my HTC Imagio. Of course its a Verizon phone which makes it a CDMA phone a well. I am willing to pay $500 or more for a custom version of the HTC Sense or LEO ROM. It can be the very same ROM that comes on the phone but with a different version of Touch Flo3D. I just want my Touch flo to look like it does on all of the LEO ROMS!!!!! So who do I have to pay and how much?!!!

Robes1 said:
I need a custom ROM for my HTC Imagio. Of course its a Verizon phone which makes it a CDMA phone a well. I am willing to pay $500 or more for a custom version of the HTC Sense or LEO ROM. It can be the very same ROM that comes on the phone but with a different version of Touch Flo3D. I just want my Touch flo to look like it does on all of the LEO ROMS!!!!! So who do I have to pay and how much?!!!
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Dude, first off, congratulations on your recent purchase.
But...
1) This forum is for Touch Pro2 users only. They have different forums for a reason. You do not have a Touch Pro2 -- if anything, it's more related to a Topaz/Touch Diamond2.
2) Chances are since it is a new CDMA phone, they haven't even released a HardSPL for it. That's probably going to be your 1st recommended step before even customizing your ROM.

I promise...as soon as there is a place to post anything about the Imagio I'll be right there. It doesn't have a section on here like the other phones.
Please forgive me!!! Do you get this upset about the wind blowing too?

Robes1 said:
I promise...as soon as there is a place to post anything about the Imagio I'll be right there. It doesn't have a section on here like the other phones.
Please forgive me!!! Do you get this upset about the wind blowing too?
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I'm not upset, just trying to protect you! Some of the users can be a bit snappy and degrading.
Curious -- when you remove your battery on your Imagio, it should show a model number of that phone (like mine shows RHOD100). What does yours say?

Explain please
Sorry...my mistake
Please delete

There isn't a Whitestone forum yet.
I've request one for you, please be patient whilst the admins create it.
Thread moved to General.
Dave

biscuits1978 said:
I'm not upset, just trying to protect you! Some of the users can be a bit snappy and degrading.
Curious -- when you remove your battery on your Imagio, it should show a model number of that phone (like mine shows RHOD100). What does yours say?
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My Model # is WHIT100

We need to Declare boycott on Htc Magic

I bought my Htc Magic in Hong kong last August.
I paid for it more than $620 (usd) after I found that the seller tried to cheat me.
I root it and my last rom was MyHero 2.0.5 with Official SenceUI on HTC Kernel 2.6.27 and it allmost worked perfect in my languge.
After that on 17/11/09 when some guys here where "happy to annonce" about the official senes upgrade I did it and since then I'm stuck with a piece of ***** and I'm gonna loose my money after I lost some days of work and 4 sleepless nights.
I feel like somebody rapped me because I can't even downgrade to the rom version I hade when I bought my Htc Magic.
It makes me sad because if HTC wouldn't release us I don't know if I'll ever buy any machine from theme again.
see:
Power to the people - the boycott as a democratic action

I think you're being a bit extreme... I own the HTC Magic and I'd gladly buy another if I broke this one...
There are methods to downgrade your HTC Magic back to the MyHero ROM. I upgraded to the Official HTC image and downgraded back to CyanogenMod in the same night with no troubles at all. Have you even tried the goldcard method? Have you done any research and reading?
And besides, crap like this belongs in the General forum where nobody will read it anyway.

Sounds like you're over reacting completely.
Instead of complaining about something that may, or may not, be HTC's fault you could try explaining your problem properly and seeing if anyone can help you fix it.

JackMagic said:
Sounds like you're over reacting completely.
Instead of complaining about something that may, or may not, be HTC's fault you could try explaining your problem properly and seeing if anyone can help you fix it.
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It is HTC's fault, as they made it almost impossible for us to get rid of the perfect SPL, as they should listen to us! and let us to do what the.... we want with our phone!
The perfect SPL he is talking about is not breakable for now! nobodey can do anything about it not even GOOGLE!
XDA is here because of the leak of support from HTC from the first place , it always has been and will be HTC's fault when people here get stuck with this kind of ****!
I will start making a dialogue with htc on Tweeter later today , we should show what we want.
My proposal is ==> let thous who want, register their phone on HTC.com and loose their warranty for ever and then let them have a S-Off spl so they can do whatever they want with their phones.

avri1 said:
I bought my Htc Magic in Hong kong last August.
I paid for it more than $620 (usd) after I found that the seller tried to cheat me.
I root it and my last rom was MyHero 2.0.5 with Official SenceUI on HTC Kernel 2.6.27 and it allmost worked perfect in my languge.
After that on 17/11/09 when some guys here where "happy to annonce" about the official senes upgrade I did it and since then I'm stuck with a piece of ***** and I'm gonna loose my money after I lost some days of work and 4 sleepless nights.
I feel like somebody rapped me because I can't even downgrade to the rom version I hade when I bought my Htc Magic.
It makes me sad because if HTC wouldn't release us I don't know if I'll ever buy any machine from theme again.
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Power to the people - the boycott as a democratic action
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A: Its your fault its "broken"
B: What do you define as broken?
C: Can you fastboot it, ADB it.... anything??
D: post some info and we can maybe help you fix it.
E: Post in the proper place.
F: You can't boycott a product everyone loves, and even when the few break it, they buy a new one or have HTC warranty fix it (paid or not)
Z: Post some info, and we can maybe help you fix it.
J: Post some info, and we can maybe help you fix it.
P.S
I know this is going to come up, but please don't blame bad English on not being able to get/request help.. if you spent 6**(usd) on it, paying 10 usd to a friend to help you properly translate it, would be worth it IMHO.

It is NOT HTC's fault!
Can you imagine if they made it easy for every idiot on the street to install the wrong image on their phone and then send it back for warranty?
They use a 'perfected' SPL in order to protect their warranty department and their proprietary software and hardware. If you want a completely open platform then you shouldn't have bought an HTC phone.
Now really, if you don't want the perfected SPL, then DO SOME READING!!! There are instructions on this very forum on how to create a GoldCard that will allow you to flash an older HTC RUU that does not have the perfected SPL. I know because I tried the RUU that you're running on your phones and I'm now running CyanogenMod 4.2.5 with SPL 1.33.2010 and a custom recovery image.
Quit the *****ing, do some reading, and shut up already!

shwan_3 said:
It is HTC's fault, as they made it almost impossible for us to get rid of the perfect SPL, as they should listen to us! and let us to do what the.... we want with our phone!
The perfect SPL he is talking about is not breakable for now! nobodey can do anything about it not even GOOGLE!
XDA is here because of the lack of support from HTC from the first place , it always has been and will be HTC's fault when people here get stuck with this kind of ****!
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regardless of what you think, it is your fault, you made every decision to "HACK" the "known working" software and thus broke it.
I will start making a dialogue with htc on Twitter later today , we should show what we want.
My proposal is ==> let those who want, register their phone on HTC.com and loose their warranty for ever and then let them have a S-Off spl so they can do whatever they want with their phones.
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This will, be exactly what we (people with rooted, death spl bla bla bla) have. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what ADP2 is for??

did you nandroid back up before you flashed the new rom? Why not just flash over the current rom that you have. Doesn't sound like your problem is that extreme. Can''t see why your having a problem. Any alteration of the OS that came with the phone would be your fault for changing that. But if you were smart enough to root and flash a custom rom, you should be able to get yourself out of this. Unless, someone did it for you. In that case. Hold them responsible. Good luck. I'm sure your not happy with this advice
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It is HTC's fault, as they made it almost impossible for us to get rid of the perfect SPL, as they should listen to us! and let us to do what the.... we want with our phone!
The perfect SPL he is talking about is not breakable for now! nobodey can do anything about it not even GOOGLE!
XDA is here because of the leak of support from HTC from the first place , it always has been and will be HTC's fault when people here get stuck with this kind of ****!
I will start making a dialogue with htc on Tweeter later today , we should show what we want.
My proposal is ==> let thous who want, register their phone on HTC.com and loose their warranty for ever and then let them have a S-Off spl so they can do whatever they want with their phones.
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shwan_3 said:
It is HTC's fault, as they made it almost impossible for us to get rid of the perfect SPL, as they should listen to us! and let us to do what the.... we want with our phone!
The perfect SPL he is talking about is not breakable for now! nobodey can do anything about it not even GOOGLE!
XDA is here because of the leak of support from HTC from the first place , it always has been and will be HTC's fault when people here get stuck with this kind of ****!
I will start making a dialogue with htc on Tweeter later today , we should show what we want.
My proposal is ==> let thous who want, register their phone on HTC.com and loose their warranty for ever and then let them have a S-Off spl so they can do whatever they want with their phones.
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Lol, angry opinionated poster FTW. Probably should have used an XDA dev's senseUI ROM instead then shouldn't he, as his previous ROM was working so well.
XDA is here to offer choice and because some people enjoy customising their devices - you then have the majority of HTC Magic users who wouldn't know what an SPL was if it hit them in the face, and are perfectly happy with their official sense ROM from HTC.
It's a matter of perspective, and yours and the OP's seem to be rather slanted. Have fun enlightening HTC about their wrong doing, but you're not making a very strong point here as you know the risks of flashing your phone - maybe he should have read up about perfect SPLs before he flashed his device.
Good luck

And if the OP would have waited a couple hours after seeing the Official update posted, he would have noticed that somebody very quickly deduced that the HTC update would install the 'Perfected' SPL.
You can't blame anyone else for your impatience and ignorance.

I Have the official HK sense rom 32A and I need help
It is NOT HTC's fault!
Can you imagine if they made it easy for every idiot on the street to install the wrong image on their phone and then send it back for warranty?
They use a 'perfected' SPL in order to protect their warranty department and their proprietary software and hardware. If you want a completely open platform then you shouldn't have bought an HTC phone.
Now really, if you don't want the perfected SPL, then DO SOME READING!!! There are instructions on this very forum on how to create a GoldCard that will allow you to flash an older HTC RUU that does not have the perfected SPL. I know because I tried the RUU that you're running on your phones and I'm now running CyanogenMod 4.2.5 with SPL 1.33.2010 and a custom recovery image.
Quit the *****ing, do some reading, and shut up already!
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sorry for my English.
i didn't breack the phone it works fine.
the problem is that I can't put my languge, as a lot of people here.
I spent all my time in reading and aearching s solution.
see as an exampale in the first post in this forum:
"right the SPL obviously doesnt like remote writing of the recovery, dont worry trying this wont **** up your device. i was trying to achieve what the oneclick root method does which basically just writes a recovery to the device to bypass the SPL but, it obviously wont allow remote flashing through ADB. il be back today to include the flashrec.apk within the rooting method unless i quickly devise a script to run off the device to flash the recovery ..... il be back
I apologise for this people i am on it. i just dont have a device with a perfected SPL to test it myself.
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So can any one HELP me?????????????????????????????
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With a perfect SPL, not really. That thread you "quoted" from is your best bet if the goldcard method doesn't work on this SPL. redmc said he would be working on it, so worth a shot if you're really that screwed.
Or maybe send Amon_ra a well written PM asking if he knows a solution using a goldcard.

Nice guy nice baby you behave as a baby (baby face)
How i can know all this that i canoot root is as the original rom.
Isn't it an "open code"

That made very little sense to me. redmc is working on a way of breaking perfect SPLs with his Relentless Rooter software - so wait and see.
Android is open source, but this isn't the OS you're having an issue with, it's the SPL.

Using goldcard
With a perfect SPL, not really. That thread you "quoted" from is your best bet if the goldcard method doesn't work on this SPL. redmc said he would be working on it, so worth a shot if you're really that screwed.
Or maybe send Amon_ra a well written PM asking if he knows a solution using a goldcard.
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THANK'S A LOT
I USED GOLDCARD AS DID OTHERS BUT IT DOESN'T WORK.
MAYBE I'LL WAIT TILL redmc OR Amon_ra CAN DO SOMETHING
BEST REGARDS

Lol, well considering you have no other options, that sounds like a good idea - and what I just suggested.
I'd say good luck, but I've got the feeling any amount of luck will be of no use to you whatsoever..

Does anyone appeal to Htc to let us install our Native Languge
Does anyone can appeal to Htc to let us al least to install our Native Languge

ways to root your phone
This should help you root your phone:
[How-To] Fix perfected SPL (fastboot remote: not allow)
Steps to Root Airtel HTC Magic and Mytouch 3G( for US users)
[email protected]: Rooting your HTC Magic (MyTouch not yet)

"Le problème se trouve toujours entre la chaise et le clavier." / The problem always lies between chair and keyboard.
Also valid for phones

Anyone here who flashes custom roms, but still tries the official HTC update is a complete idiot as far as i'm concerned as everyone here knows that HTC will most likely try to include a perfected SPL in their updates