Is it just me/my hardware or is GPS over Bluetooth absolutely rubbish!?
I tried a Holux GR-230 unit first but had the usual problems in getting it connected. When I finally did, I was apalled by it's performance, usually failing to get a gps lock at all.
So I ditched it in favour of a Rikaline GPS-6031-X7. It picked up far mor signals and usually obtained a lock almost instantly. However, it's accuracy is very disappointing. Positional accuracy - it's usually ok on a motorway or dual carriageway but at slower speeds, it jumps all over the place, forwards, backwards, in the middle of fields hundreds of yards away - and that's the worst time for it to happen 'cos it's when you slow down for a junction that you actually need it. The second issue is directional accuracy - it often shows me driving sideways as it's so sloooooow to update/recalc the direction.
If this was my first experience of gps, I might be able to forgive it without a benchmark to judge it against. But I've used Navman with an iPaq, a LAM1 unit with my Nokia 9210 and a (cheap) CF device with my Dell Axim and they all performed far, far better! I know that TomTom Navigator 2 isn't the problem as it performed flawlessly on my Axim (PXA255).
So what's going wrong? Is it the bluetooth devices, or the bluetooth technology, or the XDA II? Will O2's bluetooth update improve matters?
I can no longer rely on this and I'm going to have to start taking map backups - something I've never had to do before and really defeats the object.
Any thoughts, experiences, comments, answers?????
Ged.
I think your problem could be the gps receiver.
I am using the Navman 4400 with my XDAII. It took some time and a couple of patches (from this site, thanks guys) to get it to bond via bluetooth, but now it's setup, it works great. It seems to be very accurate and tells me to exit roundabouts just at the correct time.
It's a bit slow to get the initial fix when first switched on (about 2 minutes) but once connected I have no problems.
Is the gps receiver positioned by a heated screen? If so, this will block the signal and produce the problems you describe.
Have you changed your car? Some newer cars have reflective windshields that can cause problems.
Cheers
Thanks guys. I know of both of the issues you describe but I drive a 3 year old clio 172 - no heated/reflective screen. The receiver usually sits on the dash and receives a very strong signal from upwards of 6 sats.
I've now emailed Rikaline too so we'll see what they come up with (if anything).
I am using the Holux GR-230 and it works flawlessly with towas latest patch 1.0.1.2, a very accurate gps based on my own observations with tomtom2.
Hi guys
I have recently received my new XDA II from Orange (know as SPV M1000)
I am using it with the Fortuna Clip On GPS, Tom Tom Navigator and a Jabra 250 headset.
So far I have had no problems with the GPS, it works every time. On a rare ocasion I have to reset the phone to get the head set to work but this is very rare.
Not sure if orange have modified the software but it all seems to work.
I'm beginning to think that it's the XDA that's at fault. I know TTN2 is ok, you guys aren't having any probs with bluetooth gps devices in general, and I'd have to be extremely unlucky to have TWO faulty gps receivers from different manufacturers!
Persuading O2 that it's faulty is another matter though.
i work in the in car navi business and a 3 year old cleo does have a metalic winscreen apart from the hatched area around the rear view mirror (for use with toll tags and other antennas).You will nead a re-radateing antenna mounted externally to get propper reception as the cleo also has a faradays cage effect making radio reception within the cab area very difficult.(they are a ***** to work on)
pinkslayer, shove it in somebody elses car, or slap it on the roof of yours and see how it go's in that location.
Should know my car a bit better really!
I had tried mounting the Holux in front of the rear view mirror but this didn't help so I didn't bother trying the Rikaline. And my wife has a clio too so no point trying it in hers.
So even though I'm locking on to 5-6 sats, it's still not sufficient!? Or is the metallic screen just causing additional latency?
Its not the number of sats, its the strength of the signal received, I have seen 8 sats showing but tomtom wont attempt a route until the signals are strong enough for a lock,
Rikaline GPS-6031-X7
hi all
i use a Rikaline -x7 with TomTom Navigator 2 on my xda ll with the bluetooth pach from
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and the update is slow when taking corners (ie the map is slow to turn to the heads up position) or if you come of a motorway/ dual carriageway thats not on the calulated route it will take some time to acknowledge this
but i do not have the problem of it at slower speeds it jumps all over the place
As for accuracy my old tomtom wired gps was better
but the Rikaline-x7 is usable
Thanks peops. I've now tried mounting it on the rear parcel shelf and also stuck it to the shaded area above the rvm but to no avail (even when it was back on the dash this morning, it took 11 minutes to get a fix and another 5 before it could calc direction - cloudy day!). As soon as it's dry enough, I'll mount it outside the car and see how it is.
I don't really want to do down the re-radateing antenna route as the whole point of having portable equipment is that you can use it anywhere and in any vehicle.
Im using the Rikaline GPS 6031-X7 and Im really happy with, no problems at all in fact I think its brilliant............
I'm using the fortuna clipon in a landy with heated windscreen. It doesn't seem to affect the signal (with or without the screen on) and I have to say i was expecting problems with it. It has been the only thing about the whole BT GPS/XDAII setup that I haven't had problems with..
Technology eh!
I have been getting really mad with my polaris. I have the following headsets, jabra 8010, samsung wep200 and motorola s9. when the phone is in my pant pocket, I get tons of static when on calls. This is very annoying, are you guys experiencing similar problems with static on this phone, can't believe the bluetooth on this device sucks so bad.
i'm using the Blueant Z9, the Plantronics 510 and the Motorola H681 and i have not had any "static" complaints when used with my Orbit 2. note, however, that my Orbit 2 is running bepe's .53 WM 6.1 ROM.
i don't know much about the Samsung and the S9, but every Jabra that i've used has always had static issues with my HTC devices ...
I also bought the sony bluetooth watch which disconnects randomly from the phone, i also upgraded the radio, then the rom to the 0.53 Bepe, didn't solve anything. it is so bad, if I have 3g on, the calls gets dropped.
very frustrating. sending the phone back to mobileplanet.
curious to know where are you're having problems with 3G calls getting dropped... also, unless bepe's ROM had a different radio, my radio is stock. i used my phone for 1 hour straight today with the Z9, 3G and GPS all active and had no problems. during the call, i also received 14 emails from 3 different accounts.
sending the phone back due to dropped calls on 3G i can understand. hope you get it sorted out...
Hi, I make my comparisons versus my Gear 2 and just what seems reasonable.
With my Gear 2 I could be in another room in the house, a good 15 meters away and no issues, with the S2 (especially with the new function of vibrate on disconnect) it constantly drops when I move room even sometimes for no reason.
Also setup the WIFI option as a backup but again half the time it shows the WIFI signal as poor and I am sat right near the router, which is working 100% fine with everything else (i.e. mobile, laptops, tablets, tv.)
i get the same, bluetooth just disconnects , don't know why. also bluetooth music earphones cut out and range poor
I have exactly the same range problem on galaxy s6 edge plus with all bluetooth devices.
It's shocking , if Samsung don't fix these issues soon , will switch to fist android wear device with lte , there lucky the urbane 2nd got discontinued
A hard reset helped but still disappointing
I have found that my bluetooth range and connectivity is quite poor.
If I have the phone in my pocket and am walking, there are times that audio will cut out and crack. When I have the phone in the car or on my desk, the bluetooth performs normally.
Anyone else experiencing any bluetooth issues like this?
maamdroid said:
I have found that my bluetooth range and connectivity is quite poor.
If I have the phone in my pocket and am walking, there are times that audio will cut out and crack. When I have the phone in the car or on my desk, the bluetooth performs normally.
Anyone else experiencing any bluetooth issues like this?
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In some areas WiFi interference is pretty bad; perhaps this phone is especially susceptible to this? I've noticed that it works both ways; i.e. the phone (when using Bluetooth) will cause some WiFi connectivity for other devices (laptops etc.) to slow down drastically.
Hi all,
if I connect my Huawei MediaPad M3 to the Bluetooth headphones TX Concerto, the speed of the WIFI drops dramatically, preventing me to watch a movie in streaming without continuous buffering. This behavior is often associated to interference in the 2.4 Ghz between Bluetooth and WIFI, but unfortunately my router doesn't support 5 Ghz (and I'm not sure my tablet does it), so I couldn't test this solution.
However, I was confused when I connected the tablet to the Bluetooth Bose SoundLink, since in this case there are no issues! Distance does not matter: either close or far away, I always get issue with the headphones, none with the speaker. I haven't done specific speed tests yet, but the differences are clear (buffering vs no buffering with the same other conditions).
On the other hand, my Samsung Galaxy 10.1 tablet has nos issues in either cases, so it's definitely something related to the MediaPad (and likely other devices), but I don't understand why only with the headphones and not with the speaker.
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Stefano