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Which Dutty Rom to Choose?

Currently using the Last tilt specific beta and it works well.
What current dutty rom is 1) most stable
2) most likely not to need a keyboard fix
3) most like the one currently using
4) which radio to us if in United states or is this just trial and eror?
I have done the reading, but don't know which to try next. This is my work phone and I can't be down for the count if I screw things up.
Any advice would be appreciated. If I am not going to gain much from upgrading, please advise.

afavre said:
Currently using the Last tilt specific beta and it works well.
What current dutty rom is 1) most stable
2) most likely not to need a keyboard fix
3) most like the one currently using
4) which radio to us if in United states or is this just trial and eror?
I have done the reading, but don't know which to try next. This is my work phone and I can't be down for the count if I screw things up.
Any advice would be appreciated. If I am not going to gain much from upgrading, please advise.
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Why is everyone flooding this forum with questions like these?
1) You have to find out yourself, but V3 (will be released soon) seems to be stable
2) Tilt will always need Keyboard fix, cause of the different keyboard layout
3) The most like your current ROM?? Hmmm.... Maybe one without changes??
4) There is a thread (sticky) about Radio ROMs. Read that thread, and when you download a ROM just see what Radio ROMs are compatible.

1. N/A because I don't run any of them for over 24 hours. His ROM factory has a good production.
2. All of them need a keyboard fix unless you flash a mentioned at&t version. To my expriences, always keep the keyboardfix cab handy in card.
3. N/A. Flashing a different ROM is highly addictive action.
4. x.xx.xx.11, .17 or .32 is fine. .09 for at&t specified ROMs only.

afavre said:
Currently using the Last tilt specific beta and it works well.
What current dutty rom is 1) most stable
2) most likely not to need a keyboard fix
3) most like the one currently using
4) which radio to us if in United states or is this just trial and eror?
I have done the reading, but don't know which to try next. This is my work phone and I can't be down for the count if I screw things up.
Any advice would be appreciated. If I am not going to gain much from upgrading, please advise.
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I've got a tilt as well and I'm running Dutty's DualTouch V.2 Medium...
As for what's most stable? They're all pretty stable. try a couple and decide for yourself.
The keyboard fix is unfortunately a necessity for any rom originally designed for an HTC branded Kaiser. The Cingular/AT&T tilt has a slightly different keyboard setup than the HTC branded Kaiser. HOWEVER... I wouldn't worry about it. there are several SUPER easy ways to fix it, the most popular seem to be a cab file available from Dutty's download site in his signiture and a utility called Advance Config 1.1
If you're looking for something like your original AT&T rom... Look elsewhere... Dutty has done a good job of modifying this rom with ALOT of different packages. Most of the familiar apps are there but you may be able to access them in different ways. Also he has tweaked and tuned things to work better than originally.
As for the radio there is a sticky that gives a real good overview of the different radios. But most of it is trial and error based on a) the rom you are using and b) the configuration of the network you are using. I live in an area that is JUST getting 3G and has NO HSPDA So most of the roms seem to work about the same (ugh...) But others have reported that one works better or has better battery life... it's often a give and take and seems to be ALOT of subjectivity. but one thing... the "AT&T" 14.09 radio doesn't work with most Kaiser based ROMs. So unless the rom your using is specifically built for it (most of Dutty's aren't) don't bother you'll have problems with no sound and other things.
Hope this helps! but my best advice... READ READ READ... there's ALOT of info out there. And realize that like most threads, questions that people feel are already answered will bring about some rather curt posts from people. So try to be sure your question hasn't already been answered somewhere else.

thank all for the advice. May make the switch over to a dual touch rom over a holiday when I don't need the phone.
You all have been much more patient than most with some semi newb questions that I have had. I know I don't add much to the "development" discussion, but I sure as hell can break some things and make people feel smart when the tell me how to fix it (or "f" off and search the forums, newb).
The radio install is the only sort of "out there" portion of this whole thing and I will do my homework before my next flash.

radio
I have tested both .17 and .32 and I like .17 better I notice little diff. in battery life but service seems better and the internet is much better. I'm in the mid west and I have HSDPA service mostly.

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1st of all...this site is great and there's an incredible amount of knowledge and inteligence here. I'll be tickled donate once completing the mods on my new *but* locked phone...errrrg
So, I posted this question maybe in the wrong area...'cause there was no response
jgdorado;1873942]I'm recieving a TYTN II tomarrow locked to ATT. I'm using t-mobile here in Florida. I want to completely eliminate any reference to ATT and run whatever rom's would provide the best of the best. So please entertain my questions as this may quite help many others who are trying to get the big pcture........
1) can I use Win2000Pro(sp4+) for these procedures
2) Should I 1st use Kaiser Super CID unlocker, or CID unlocker 1st?
3) then do I run the HardSPL v1
4) Then it appears that I should run this sim-unlocker
5) Then it appears that I need to load some form of other ROM i.e. Schwab cooked, Dutty V.4RTM or what do you folks suggest is best?
I assume WM6 remains untouched??? and the other operations like GPS, WiFi, etc??
Please treat the above as questions. I'm seeking your advice
Thanks for de-weeding my brain here
JG
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I am simply soliciting those who have a wonderfully working 8925/tilt/kaiser/tytn etc tell me what you're running and in what order does the s/w get installed for best operation
Your response is and will be greatly appreciated by all of us who are trying hard to get the bigger picture. I know it's your opinion (goes without saying) but your opinion matters and your experience with a fully functional kaiser gives us a place to start
THANK YOU -JG

jgdorado said:
1st of all...this site is great and there's an incredible amount of knowledge and inteligence here. I'll be tickled donate once completing the mods on my new *but* locked phone...errrrg
So, I posted this question maybe in the wrong area...'cause there was no response
jgdorado said:
I'm recieving a TYTN II tomarrow locked to ATT. I'm using t-mobile here in Florida. I want to completely eliminate any reference to ATT and run whatever rom's would provide the best of the best. So please entertain my questions as this may quite help many others who are trying to get the big pcture........
1) can I use Win2000Pro(sp4+) for these procedures
2) Should I 1st use Kaiser Super CID unlocker, or CID unlocker 1st?
3) then do I run the HardSPL v1
4) Then it appears that I should run this sim-unlocker
5) Then it appears that I need to load some form of other ROM i.e. Schwab cooked, Dutty V.4RTM or what do you folks suggest is best?
I assume WM6 remains untouched??? and the other operations like GPS, WiFi, etc??
Please treat the above as questions. I'm seeking your advice
Thanks for de-weeding my brain here
JG
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I am simply soliciting those who have a wonderfully working 8925/tilt/kaiser/tytn etc tell me what you're running and in what order does the s/w get installed for best operation
Your response is and will be greatly appreciated by all of us who are trying hard to get the bigger picture. I know it's your opinion (goes without saying) but your opinion matters and your experience with a fully functional kaiser gives us a place to start
THANK YOU -JG
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1. I really have no clue.
2-5. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895 and checkout other articles here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

jgdorado said:
1st of all...this site is great and there's an incredible amount of knowledge and inteligence here. I'll be tickled donate once completing the mods on my new *but* locked phone...errrrg
So, I posted this question maybe in the wrong area...'cause there was no response
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You are getting no response because the other members are being nice, and not to flame at you. Your answers are the first 8 stickies in the Kaiser Upgrade forum.

Fellow Floridian here. Hopefully you're a Gator fan. Consider this your freebie .
Flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679. You'll then be CID unlocked and have the ability to flash another ROM. If you have any issues, start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039 This is the SIM unlocker that everyone has used. I have not used it because mine could be unlocked via AT&T.
Then read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895, the wiki and the stickies before flashing. Remember, you can brick your phone if you are not sure of what you are doing. Take a day or two to read as much as possible. That being said, the chefs have made it super easy.
As for ROMs, they truly are opinion. Everyone has their own needs. I like clean ROMs and don't use things like cubes. Currently using Q-Mobile 1.2. Just flashed from Dutty's V2 medium. Loved them both. Also really liked Alex's and Custel's. Even tried Jack's for a while and liked it. The differences are often minute and sometimes even just perception about speed and performance. Someone recently did a performance review of a bunch of ROMs - there's an excel file around here somewhere. I have spent a couple of months trying to find my ideal and may never (as fast as great new ROMs come out here.) It's an addiction. Go ahead - take your first hit.

Again thanks for your answers.
I get the fact that I need to CID and Sim unlock the phone 1st. What I'm not quite getting are the different ROM's. I must assume the phone has one for its out-of-box operation. So when I flash a new rom does it overwrite the old one or does the old need to be unloaded (saved somewhere??). Does the WM6 remain untouched? How about the other features of the phone like GPS, WiFi, MP3, 3G, GPRS, etc-etc? Are they part of the rom or hardware withing the circuitry
After all the reading (2 weeks now) these items remain unclear to me. Thanks for not flaming at me, but if in the midst an answer is unveiled....I have thick skin
I feel like I'm getting somewhere and this thread will help others too.

jgdorado said:
Again thanks for your answers.
I get the fact that I need to CID and Sim unlock the phone 1st. What I'm not quite getting are the different ROM's. I must assume the phone has one for its out-of-box operation. So when I flash a new rom does it overwrite the old one or does the old need to be unloaded (saved somewhere??). Does the WM6 remain untouched? How about the other features of the phone like GPS, WiFi, MP3, 3G, GPRS, etc-etc? Are they part of the rom or hardware withing the circuitry
After all the reading (2 weeks now) these items remain unclear to me. Thanks for not flaming at me, but if in the midst an answer is unveiled....I have thick skin
I feel like I'm getting somewhere and this thread will help others too.
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Well, flashing a ROM means to replace the default operating system with a modified one, so, the answer is yes to your question whether or not WM6 is touched. No matter what ROM you flash, you will have GPS, WiFi, MP3, 3G, GPRS, etc-etc. Think of it this way: You will still have your CD-ROM drive, your ethernet card, etc. if you reinstall Windows or upgrade to another version.

Think of a ROM as a full hard drive image. On your laptop you have Windows XP, Office and a bunch of other programs. But you like your buddy's setup better. He tweaked his registry and has chosen free programs that you like better, etc. So you are using his full hard drive image and overwriting yours. You'll be using his copy of Windows XP, but it will be legal because you have a key that came with your machine.
The ROMs here overwrite everything. They include everything basic you need to run your PPC and have tweaked the settings and registry keys to get the most out of all of your equipment. The differences are in those tweaks and then the programs they add on. Check out Alex's new wiki. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Alex's ROMs He gives a great idea of the range of ROM options...everything from the absolute basics (all hardware works and comes with the supporting software but you get to add everything else you want, including Office - so this basically equates to just a windows install for your laptop) all the way to all the possible "bells and whistles" including .pdf readers, games, etc. etc. All of the programs that are add-ons to the ROMs are freeware, because XDA doesn't allow warez. As such, you may find a piece of paid software that you like better than something that is used a lot here (for example, I've purchased Opera Mobile), but you'll learn which are the best free options via the ROMs.
The beauty of ROM flashing is it's fast. Takes about ten minutes to flash a new ROM (plus time to install all your add-on programs). If you don't like the one you tried this week (or in some cases day), try a new one next week (or tomorrow). Just make sure you use the radio that is suggested with most ROMs (some include the radio, some allow you to install the radio separately - this will be documented in the post/wiki). Thus you can figure out which optional programs you like the best and use the appropriate ROM. Learning to flash is relatively easy. Figuring out which of the ROMs and other programs you like best - that takes time and it is truly individual opinion.
Edit: BTW - you do not HAVE to SIM unlock your phone before messing with ROMs. I didn't when I started because I'm using on AT&T anyway and wasn't that worried about it. FYI.

With all the reading I've been doing here I never came accross the thread you referred me to....PRICELESS (THX)
Guilf said:
Check out Alex's new wiki. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Alex's ROMs He gives a great idea of the range of ROM options...everything from the absolute basics (all hardware works and comes with the supporting software but you get to add everything else you want, including Office - so this basically equates to just a windows install for your laptop) all the way to all the possible "bells and whistles" including .pdf readers, games, etc. etc.
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Also I now have the impression that the only reason he's made ATT vs HTC Roms has noting to do with the labeling on the phone (Mine's ATT) but only to do with using the ATT .09 radio, otherwise I can use any of the HTC roms and pick a radio that works for my T-mobile service. If I'm wrong please say so.
Also, still wondering whether I can get away with NT2000(sp4) as an OS on my pc.

im fairly certain that you will have no issue using win2k, as its the same kernal as winXP(just not as pretty), which is what most people use to do their flashing. as long as you are able to install activesync and its not vista you should be good to go.

His wiki is pretty new - perhaps that's why you haven't seen it yet. Again, there will be 20 people on here that will swear the ROM they use is the best. You could go equally well starting with Dutty's work (or Q-Mobile or whichever). However, Alex's work is topnotch and as good a place to start as any of the top cooks.
Without knowing precisely, I believe he made the AT&T versions because he's in the U.S. and probably uses AT&T himself. His AT&T versions use the standard AT&T radio and come preconfigured with all the standard AT&T Medianet settings. I've flashed both versions and they work great (I'm on AT&T). But, yes, in your case I would use the standard HTC ROMs.
Good luck.
P.S. As for your PC OS, not really sure. Too much of a newbie for that one myself. Have only heard about specific problems with Vista, but it seems they've made a fix for that. My guess is that you're fine (I know it's the same kernel as XP), but if you're concerned try Pof to find out about HardSPL.

thanks for all the input.....
Here's my new dilemma
It's a G4....so now I need to find nothing but G4 soft/hardSPL along with G4 Rom's and of Unlock the SIM of a G4

That's a Wizard variant. Check the Wizard forum. I think there's also a G4 specific area. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=343

will that work for the Kaiser/Tytn II/ tilt?
I was reading about the Wizard but nothing from there was actually working on my phone

I'm befuddled. Do you have a Tilt/Kaiser/TYTN II or a G4? Perhaps I didn't understand your previous post. No, the Tilt stuff will not work on the G4 and the G4 stuff will not work on the Tilt. Different units/different hardware/different CID unlock/different ROMs.

Do you have a Tilt/Kaiser/TYTN II or a G4?
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they are the same. The Tilt/Kaiser/TYTN II comes in both the G3 and G4 versions.
So now I seek the G4 versions of the CID and SIM unlockers as well as a G4 safe ROM
Any help is greatly appreciated

ROM Advice for SPV C600

Hi,
I am really wanting to upgrade my SPV C600 to WinMo6. But first i need advice.
What ROM will keep all of my current working functions, working?? i want to be able to use my phone as i do now, just on WM6.
Also, i would quite like it to look like this IF possible.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wv5aeDB6kwY
What are your recommendations?
Keith.

Which ROM?
The video you've been looking at is the standard WM6.1 Home screen. GnatGoSplats WM6.1 Clean ROM uses this interface, and it seems to be a good, stable ROM. Personally though, and this is just a matter of personal preference, I've found that although WM6.1 is the latest, WM6 ROM's tend to work better, be more stable and keep your device running with most if not all of your current 'stuff'.
I'm using SGregory's WM6 with the 'Neo' home screen, which in my opinion is a far better home screen interface than the standard WM6.1 you're talking about - but again, it's just personal preference.
One thing you will find though is that most ROM 'cookers' remove a lot of useless apps which most people never use so you can have more free memory to install the stuff you do use - I think it's called 'user choice'! Rather than Microsoft dictating which software is on your device, you can add the stuff you want and leave all the crap out.
If you're worried about upgrading your ROM because your device won't be the same, don't do it... that's the whole point of upgrading - your device WON'T be the same, it will be BETTER!!

Haha, thanks.
Have you got any screenshots of NEO? Also, could you link to that rom you thought was best and say what i would be losing/gaining?
Also , how easy is it to get it back to stock orange?

All the info you need my friend is right here in this forum. It's too time consuming for anyone to list all the pros and cons of various custom ROM's - just try one, if you don't like it, try another.
If you want to put the original Orange ROM back on (you won't when you've tried a decent ROM), you can download it from Orange website. Just type 'Orange SPV C600 ROM' into Google.

Is it really that easy to put it back as it was? If i did the recovery (hold 2 soft keys) would that not work anymore?
Also, will upgrading the radios not bother it in any way?
And by the orange rom, do you mean the one that adds the push email?

By 'Recovery' I assume you mean hard-reset. If so, no, that won't put it back to how it was. That will just reset all the settings to default and remove any third-party software which you have installed, thus leaving the device in a 'new' state (new, according to the ROM you have installed, not new as in just bought from Orange).
If I were you, I would leave it as it is because you're obviously way too concerned about messing up your device

I dunno about that last part, he's just a newbie. When I first got my Tornado I was scared to death to upgrade from WM5 to WM6 because I was afraid of bricking my phone. But I had a buddy who owns a Wizard watching over my shoulder while I followed the tutorial step-by-step, which was a big confidence-builder. And when it installed perfectly, I had the hang of it, and I've been experimenting occasionally with new ROMs ever since.
Keithoms, as long as you follow Karhoe's tutorial you're golden. And you'll never want to go back to the original ROM again - this I promise you. WM6 and WM6.1 are light years better than WM5. And don't you worry about bricking your phone - you have to seriously screw up the process to do that. Upgrade the radio for better reception, upgrade the ROM for better functionality.
And, I recommend doing like I did: read. Spend some time on this forum and just read threads. Read, read, read. Forums like this are great for getting questions answered, and chances are your question has been asked at least once before, and you're quite likely to find the answer to your question before you need to post it. If you can't find it, post, and we'll answer away. And, as an added bonus, by digging through the forums each day, you're likely to come across questions that you never thought to ask, and answers that fix problems you didn't realize you had.
And, last but not least, ENJOY! I've been in love with Windows Mobile phones ever since I got mine, and the number of things you can do with them are limitless.
Some threads you should read:
Karhoe's WM6 upgrade how-to. It looks like a lot of steps, but it's not really. It goes very fast - if you're SLOW, it might take you 25-30 minutes.
Nitro's WM6 ROM - you can substitute this for the ROM suggested by Karhoe's tutorial without any ill effects at all.
A whole collection of ROMS and software for the Tornado.
Hope this was helpful, and hope you have an awesome day!

Hi, thanks for the replies. For the radio, i was only meaning, would it bother the old orange rom in any way if i decided to go back with the radio still updated.
I am a bit paranoid, but that is only because i bought the phone yesterday and spent all of my money on it.
I have read karhoes guide around 20 times. Giving it a thought, i take it the only way to brick it is to either not SuperCID it before its flashed, to do format BINFS wrongly and to knock out the cables and/or run out of batterys as it is doing GMSUpdate and the actual rom flash.
So if i avoid those things, i should be fine? :S

I'm on nights so I'm moody!
- Perhaps I was a bit short with you to tell you to leave it alone. djsleepwalker is right... if you follow the guide to the letter, you shouldn't have any issues. Even if you do, someone in this forum has the answer you need.
You will never regret upgrading your ROM and you'll never want to put the original Orange ROM back on, that's for sure. I've used Windows Mobiles since 2002 and I've only started messing with ROM's a couple of years ago.. I wish I'd done it sooner. The benefits far outway the risks

Well, i just went ahead and did the full shebang!
I bought a new housing from fluffcat1, fitted that.
Then.... installed GGS's WM6
Uber-Epic romz....
Thanks to all that helped me get through this without any damamamagamage to my phone.

Why change roms?

Greetings. I'm so glad I've found this forum, I've been reading and learning a lot. I have a Tilt and love it. Stock WM 6.1 rom, "clean" no bloatware install. I'd like to upgrade it using Dutty's rom, my question is what is the main number one advantage to doing so?
I'm pretty happy using SPB Mobile 3, having switched from Point UI, SPB Mobile 2 before that, M2D before that, and the phone is reasonably fast. Are other roms noticeably faster? That would be my main reason for changing roms. Sorry if this is a noob question but I have been reading a lot and only find a few references to speed in new roms. Thanks for any help.

The beauty of this community is the diversity of customizations which includes all the cooked roms available to us.
Windows mobile (in my view) would be no where without all the hacks/tweaks/customizations that this forum brings to us.
Now you ask the benefit to flashing custom roms?
Basicly it allows you to transform your device/phone to how you want it to the tee! Each rom has its pros and cons. I personally use Abusalza's roms as they are really snappy and have many useful apps included.
Duttys roms are great as well. I want to say one of dutty's roms is the best i've ever put on my device but he hasn't made a rom recently for the kaiser so its kind of outdated and i need to have the latest and best running on my device )
Its not that hard to flash a rom and check it out for a couple hours to see if you like it or not so go ahead and expirement with different roms!
Also reading is key! i'm pretty confident in saying any trouble you run into has already stumped someone else before and there is a solution. As you search and read to solve your own problems it will expand you knowledge which enables you to help someone else on this community making you a valueable member!
Just make sure you check out this thread and when bored, read through the wiki.

It's just fun! I am a flash junkie ...thats why I flash all the time!

Thanks!
Thanks so much for your answers. The fun part has grabbed me as well, I really want to try it but have to go through the unlock business first I guess.

Dutty's last rom was from over a year ago, you may want to look into something newer, ROM's have changed a bit since then.

Yes, a new rom will significantly improve your phone's speed, functionality and if you install a newer radio as well will even improve your phone's battery life, reception, media playback and your camera's functionality.
Read this guide before installing your first rom as you'll need to install a hardspl before you do a rom install...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
My personal recommendation for you is to install this rom (Abusalza's PDACorner X4)...
AT&T Tilt Rom - http://www.ponack.net/abusalza/Ultimate-X.V4.Lite-S.2G.rar
Upgrade to a newer radio and install SPB Mobile Shell 3 and iGO(you can get it from torrents) after you install the rom.
It's the perfect combination.
I'm sure others will recommend a few additional programs to install on top of that as well.

Thanks, I've been thinking about the WM 6.5 roms....

Hey Guys
Hey Guys,
Closing thread in an effort to keep threads clean and uncluttered.
Rom flashing is all personal preference which you will discover once you begin flashing roms to find the perfect one for you. a new thread is not needed on this subject.
Peace and take care,
Joshua

To ROM of not to ROM...

I have an AT&T Tilt (had it almost 2yrs) running the WM 6.1. I called HTC the other day about an update to 6.5. The technician said there was not one and that the Tilt was near end of life and that there not going to be anymore updates. If that is the case, I'm thinking of flashing a new ROM. Can anyone give any advice on what one I should use. I'm not very computer literate and want something that will be easy to use and maximize my device. It almost literally has become my brain and I depend on very much.
Also, if this posting has been placed in the wrong area please forgive my ignorance and, if possible, may the administrators place it in the correct area.
Thanks for any/all advice in advance.

Well, sadly there is no ROM called as good ROM here. It all depends on what you use your phone for and where you live!
Try reading through ROM threads, and see what suits your needs. Best advise is "Keep reading and keep flashing!". Good luck.

try abusalza new ver. cook ROM either ultimate x2v8 wm6.5 or ultimate x2v9 wm6.5...
it look nice to my kaiser n run perfectly...

StoneyBK said:
I'm not very computer literate and want something that will be easy to use and maximize my device. It almost literally has become my brain and I depend on very much.
Also, if this posting has been placed in the wrong area please forgive my ignorance and, if possible, may the administrators place it in the correct area.
Thanks for any/all advice in advance.
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Then why do you want to upgrade ? The phone does everything you want, it is easy to use, dependable, it is " your brain " , what do you think WM 6.5 is going to do for you. ?
We all flash because we all define the phrase " give me more " . We flash because enough is never enough. New is waaay better than stable or dependable ( how are those mega packages working out for y'all )
Stick with 6.1 until it is time for a new phone with WM 7 loaded.

hahaha..can't wait for wm7..

denco7 said:
Then why do you want to upgrade ? The phone does everything you want, it is easy to use, dependable, it is " your brain " , what do you think WM 6.5 is going to do for you. ?
We all flash because we all define the phrase " give me more " . We flash because enough is never enough. New is waaay better than stable or dependable ( how are those mega packages working out for y'all )
Stick with 6.1 until it is time for a new phone with WM 7 loaded.
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I would stick with what this guy says. Any rom you use besides stock is going to give you fits of frustration the only reason I kept flashing was for my data and internet I was not happy with the offerings of stock att rom but grew very frustrated with most of the cooked roms If I had found opera mini before all those other roms I might not have had the need to keep flashing. I have since found Android and the only time I see windows is when I am doing an update to Android. If what you have now suits you then keep it.

denco7 said:
Then why do you want to upgrade ? The phone does everything you want, it is easy to use, dependable, it is " your brain " , what do you think WM 6.5 is going to do for you. ?
We all flash because we all define the phrase " give me more " . We flash because enough is never enough. New is waaay better than stable or dependable ( how are those mega packages working out for y'all )
Stick with 6.1 until it is time for a new phone with WM 7 loaded.
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I would stick with what this guy says. Any rom you use besides stock is going to give you fits of frustration the only reason I kept flashing was for my data and internet I was not happy with the offerings of stock att rom but grew very frustrated with most of the cooked roms If I had found opera mini before all those other roms I might not have had the need to keep flashing. I have since found Android and the only time I see windows is when I am doing an update to Android. If what you have now suits you then keep it.
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I'm gonna say exactly the same if you happy with stock stick with it, if you want something more special and are happy to flash untill you find a custom ROM you want then join the flashers anonymous

I'ld go to say the same, if you're happy with stock ROM, then don't change.
BUT...
If you're frustrated with what stock ROM gives you (that happened with my permanently-freezing-Herald-stck-ROM till I flashed a good ROM there), then take a surf on the ROM Kaiser pages here at xda-dev's and then try to do all the steps ( hard-SPL, radio mod's, unlock if locked, etc. ) and then, flash the ROM you think is better for you (what are you asking to a device ? I'm using it to write, calculate, draw, sketching, photo, wifi nav', gps in the forest, let my daughter play... - maybe I'ld chose a different ROM to play games or watch videos)
I think almost every ROM here is "better" than the stock ROM and you'll find a good WM6.5 if you're searching speed, reliability, good RAM... and this will give you a loooooong Kaiser life.
But, as Denco7 says, this means you are always asking "more" and more and more.

StoneyBK said:
I have an AT&T Tilt (had it almost 2yrs) running the WM 6.1. I called HTC the other day about an update to 6.5. The technician said there was not one and that the Tilt was near end of life and that there not going to be anymore updates. If that is the case, I'm thinking of flashing a new ROM. Can anyone give any advice on what one I should use. I'm not very computer literate and want something that will be easy to use and maximize my device. It almost literally has become my brain and I depend on very much.
Also, if this posting has been placed in the wrong area please forgive my ignorance and, if possible, may the administrators place it in the correct area.
Thanks for any/all advice in advance.
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I HIGHLY recommend that you go here and read.

Don't do it!

Ok, thanks...
...for the advice. I'll stay with what I have its worked for me and does what i want/need.

StoneyBK
Make backup and give yourself a try with new rom`s. if you dislike - you always can return to were your begin. I believe you underestimate this possibility of kaiser.

Go for it!
I was in the same place you are, wondering if I should flash, and why. But, If I'm going to spend this much time with a device, why not pretty it up and make it a LOT more functional. The new 6.5 roms are beautiful, more functional, and easier to use, especially compared to the butt ugly 6.1, and if you're not going to buy a new device with WM7 on it then I say flash away man, you can get so much more out of your Kaiser. Have a look at TPC Elite V9. Enjoy.

StoneyBK and Marckc2
Yes, having a stock ROM capable for your needs, is enough. But if you begin to flash, and to investigate, you'll maybe acquire more and more acknowledgement about the TyTNII and WM, so that you'll be here answering and maybe cooking (and posting) your own ROMs.

Amazing work being done
It depends on what you want. I picked up my Tilt on ebay, because I wanted a PDA/phone (w/wifi). I'm a little bit of a tweaker, and wanted to make the most of this phone. I ended up here, read throught the newbie stuff, worked up the steam to flash a hard SPL, then flashed Sakajati's Hyper IV Rhodium, and was amazed; fast, functional, stable, with some flash as well. The only problem is being content. . . the developments keep ramping up. I think my tilt is farther advanced than most smart phones currently offered on ATT's upgrades. (maybe ignorance is bliss. . but I don't think so) There appear to be a number of chefs doing amazing work. Look around, read the comments. If you take the next step and like it . . . buy the chef some coffee. . .