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Small tools for WM5

Two small tools I made for WM5:
NewTray adds a menu with all "New" entries (like the New menu in PPC2000 to WM2003SE) to the system tray. The icon's a small yellow star...
(Sadly, not all entries work fine on all devices, since WM5 has no native New menu, nobody seems to check them. For example, new message doesn't work on P525...)
RemapSoftkeys allows to modify the softkey allocation on the Today screen. It only modifies registry entries, so you don't need to keep it installed after you set your new values...
Both ZIP files contain the PPC executeable, i.e. you have to copy the contained file to the PPC and execute it there. For NewTray, it'd be usefull to create a shortcut in the startup folder. To do this, run the file explorer on your PPC, tap&hold on NewTray.exe, select Copy, then go to \Windows\Startup (or localized name, e.g. \Windows\Autostart for German Windows), right softkey, Edit > Paste shortcut.
I plan to show the menu if NewTray.exe is executed again, so you could open the menu with a softkey, currently this is not possible.

Thanks for the apps.. but to burst your bubble, there are already some software that do what yours are doing.
The popular one, a must have for me, is the WM5NewMenu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=255580&highlight=
And as for the soft key customization, there are a few around
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=260171&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279544&highlight=

hanmin said:
Thanks for the apps.. but to burst your bubble, there are already some software that do what yours are doing.
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Well, almost...
The popular one, a must have for me, is the WM5NewMenu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=255580&highlight=
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I know that, but it's got a quite different approach. It has its own menu, while I read everything from the registry.
This means, that WM5NewMenu has some better features, like sending SMS to given users, but on the other hand requires more memory, isn't international (labels like "Appointment" are read from the registry, too), and (afaik) doesn't realize new/modified "New" entries (e.g. TextMaker or PocketInformant).
Its a matter of taste and needs what you prefer. Some people wished for s.th. like that in another board, and it was only about half an hour to write it, so here it is...
And as for the soft key customization, there are a few around
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=260171&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279544&highlight=
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OK, didn't know of that one. I just read some queries about how to modify the softkeys in the Today screen, and most of the times the answer was either WM5NewMenu or AE buttons. Since it's not too hard to modify a couple of registry entries, I wrote this small tool...

Thanks Mort. Haven't seen you for a while...
Best regards always.
V

Thanks MORT...

[Updated 12/08/2009]:Web Based CAB Creator for Common Registry Settings

Hi Everyone,
I, like many of you, spend way to much time setting phones up over and over again. Since a big part of this is registry edits, I have built a web site that allows you to check off the registry options you want, which it then uses to create a downloadable CAB file to install that will contain all of those registry tweaks. This makes things completely reversible by uninstalling the CAB file.
Notes:
This is Beta. While I have used it, and it's a very basic process, it isn't commercial software by any means.
If you would like to add a new feature, post in this thread.
You may install more than one cab file created with this tool. Just use different names at the bottom of the form.
Without further delay, here's the site:
<edit> The tool has now moved to nowsci.com. If you have any issues, please let me know. </edit>
http://nowsci.com/registry-changer/
Thanks,
Ben

* hold for updates *
Update 1: HTML now renders mobile friendly, so you can use this straight from your device.
Update 2: Edit feature added.
Update 3: Can now manually specify string or integer.
Update 4 [11/17/2008]: Can now specify the app name for install, allowing the user to have more than one Registry Changer cab installed at any point in time.
Update 5 [03/27/2009]: Fixed some character flaws for input. Preparations for move to a new host.
Update 6 [04/22/2009]: Added a filter option.

The site now has the ability for the end user to add registry entries to the database.

Thank you very much. I believe the "Camera Enhancements" entry is mis-titled. Shouldn't it be Rotate Picture 90 degrees, not 180 degress?

Doh! I will fix that.
Also, just added all the registry entries from the Diamond Tweaks post.

What about the Bluetooth DUN profile adding to the list? - Mike

What's the registry entries for that? Happy to add them, or you can add them yourself now through the site.

What happens if you tweak a registry entry that does not exist on your specific device or rom?

Good question. For the most part, I would guess nothing. If there is nothing on your system looking for the registry entry, then it won't effect anything. That being said, that doesn't mean WM doesn't look for registry entries that aren't there. For instance, the following tweak:
Enable Vision Duration/Disconnect Popup
HKLM\ControlPanel\Phone\Flags2=16
Flags2 doesn't exist by default on most any WM6 phone. Adding it in, enables the disconnect.

Who added the "Mighty" tweaks? Is that a phone? Many of those seem like they should go in Misc. I might clean that up if those aren't specific to a phone.

Would it be possible to have a wiki of descriptions for each of these options? I know I could Google them one by one but I'm sure users would appreciate a single source.

Hmm, not a bad idea. I wonder if there was a spot on the xda wiki I could use for it since I don't have my own. I may end up integrating a detailed description field for each item with a question mark next to it. Unfortunatly I won't be able to define them all since people have added one's I've never used.

OK I have a request. I don't' so much mind tweaking the settings when I flash. However what does drive me nuts and keeps me from flashing is knowing I will have to reconfigure all my email accounts. I just use the default mail program, but what a pain going through and adding my 7 yes Seven email accounts every time I flash my phone. Is there a way to make a cab that would auto input all my account settings? The reason for so many accounts, is I have personal accounts, business accounts, email list accounts, car club accounts, and forum subscription accounts.
It would be awesome to be able to go to a site, or run an app where I could plunk in all my account settings, then create a cab store it to my SD card and whenever I flash, just run the cab and POOF all my accounts are setup.

Unfortunately, probably wouldn't be easy to make a cab. However, programs like Sprite Backup will do this for you. You can selectively restore your mail using SB, however I generally back up my phone once I get things the way I like it, then if anything goes sour, I hard reset, then restore.

any1 made an ultimate tweak.cab? maybe make your diamond seem as fast as a custom rom?????????????
then any hardreset.......

dewey1973 said:
Would it be possible to have a wiki of descriptions for each of these options? I know I could Google them one by one but I'm sure users would appreciate a single source.
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+1 on descriptions of each cab

Wow very nice! Thanks!

I suggest a field to make a *.cab regarding to any registry path/setting the user wishes (if the user is more technical).
without having to actually add to the public entry list.
This will allow the ability to:
1. not have to wait for the admin to add the specific entry
2. allows the author of the new *.cab to distribute their new edit on the fly.
3. give the admin to log & analyze the entries in the custom field to and determine more of the common *custom* entries the ppl may want. Thus not having to depend on explicit user input and emails all the time.

First - thanks for putting this together!
Quick question - I had it "enable" GPS coded photos...but I don't think it did? Shouldn't I have an option somewhere in my camera menu to activate this once I've installed the .cab? Additionally, I don't believe "enable landscape pictures" and "sport mode" worked - how do I know?
Many thanks!

Oh, and I forgot to mention (not that it matters???) that I'm on an HTC Touch Pro with Sprint - stock ROM. I'm new to all this, so I apologize if this is basic stuff.

[SCRIPT] Energy XDA_UC Configuration Tools (EXCT) V1.1.1 Final

This is a little project i've been working on and i thought it was ready enough to be released into the wild. Below is the readme file. I think it covers everything for now. Before posting please read the first 3 posts - especially post 3 - if it is obvious that you haven't done this i will not respond with any form of help and i don't not expect any of the users to do so either.
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Included with this zip file are several .cab, .reg and .xml files that will automatically configure your NRGZ28 energy rom when XDA_UC runs upon first boot after flashing.
Included are the following configuration files
activesync.xml
This will configure your MS Exchange settings. Editing with your personal settings is required. Look for the username, server, domain and password tags at the start of the file
aGPS.reg
Enables aGPS
BackLight.reg:
Sets backlight to auto. There are some other settings included for dim and light off times when on battery and AC power aswell
bt_ident.reg
Sets the Bluetooth Identity. Edit the deviceid line to suit
copy.mscr
Copies files from the copy2root folder to the matching location in device storage. A My Documents folder with My Ringtones and My Wallpapers sub folders have been created already. Place you ringtones and wallpapers in these folders. There is also an application data folder which contains a coreplayer config.xml and a program files folder which contains a myPlayer options.ini. Feel free to create more. Thanks to nrfitchett4 for providing this script.
Del.mscr
This file will remove all unwanted ringtones, wallpapers and any other files you decided to add. Edit as you need to. N.B any readonly files will need attributes changed before they can be deleted.
DisableSenseVsync.cab
Disables Vsync in sense increasing the framerate thus making it faster
HD2MemTweaks.cab
Increase's glyphcache size past the bsb tweaks and advanced config defaults, incrases filesystem cache size and a few other bits. This cab file is optional. Delete it if you don't want it. Thanks go out to g.lewarne for documenting the tweaks
HTCAlbumIgnore.reg
Stops the sense music player playing ringtone files from \My Documents\My Ringtones\ and \storage card\ringtones. Copy the examples
if you want to add to it.
M3PH HTC Location Service Enable.cab
Enables HTC location Service and automatically excepts the TOS
ident.reg
Changes the phones identity at first boot. If NRGZ28 won't make it sensible i'll make it so we can customise it . Editing required. this one is pretty obvious
Palringo.reg
Sets up palringo, sorta, change [email protected] to your user name and it should show up at sign in. All you need to do is enter your password
QuickGPS.reg
Enables and configures QuickGPS with the defaults
Ringtones.reg
Configures the ringtone, sms tone and email tone. Needs some editing but you only need to change the file name for each entry, not the
path. The Ringtone2 entry allows for second ringtone to be added to the list of usable ones so you change them with too much fuss.
Also enables flashing light on sms reception for 5 minutes.
wifi_setup.xml
wifi settings. Edit required. This link should help you set it up (see post 3 for details on how to edit)
M3PH Enable Time Auto Update.cab
Enables NTP
Volume.Reg
Sets the volume levels. You can use this one or export your own from HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Volume
Windows live.reg
Pretty much configures windows live. You do still need to enter your password and you will also need to do atleast one manual sync before Sense will create the mailbox on the email tab but otherwise it works
Opera User Agent String folder
See the readme.txt in that folder
Sense Folder
If you put your wallpaper in this folder it will be installed as the sense default. Just rename it to sense_wallpaper.png.
Start Menu folder
Copy Start Menu shortcuts here
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If you like this or any of my other work click the "donate to me" link above my avatar
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REMEMBER THIS COLLECTION OF FILES IS PRESENTED AS IS UNDER THE GNU GPLv2. IT IS BETA SOFTWARE AND COMES WITH NO WARRANTY OR ANY FORM OF OFFICIAL SUPPORT. I, M3PH, SHALL NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DAMAGE OR DATA LOSE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT OCCUR TO YOUR DEVICE.

Change Log
Change Log:
1.1.1 Final
Removed Keyboard sensitivity tweaks
Removed opera memory tweaks
Added more palringo settings
Added Quick shutdown settings
1.1 Final
Updated volume.reg to default to seperate system and ring volume controls.
Removed all tweaks now included in Energy roms dated nov30 and newer. I will leave v1.0 posted for a while so people that like to install older versions still get the benefit
1.0 Final
Added Windows_live_settings.reg. You will need to edit it as prescribed on page 16 but it will work.
Added Improved GPS settings.cab. This is untested by me but i trust scabes24 enough to know he's not going to pass on unreliable tweaks
Improved M3PH Location Service enable.cab: Added an extra registry setting that should trigger Manila to showing it's on. This is doubtful but even if it doesn't the file does work
Added alarm_settings.reg: This is only an example file. You will need to export your own settings but this should be a reasonable starting point
Removed readme.txt: It was a habit a picked up from Linux development practices and was pointless for this project
Removed time.reg permanently because there is nothing changed in the registry when it is enabled.
--- Pre Final releases

Tips and Tricks
What follows are some tips and tricks i have found that i'm not going to include for whatever reason but thought some people might find handy or notes on what settings do what and their options.
Q. Can i delete file xyz using xda_uc because i like to have as much space as possible?
Yes you can. i found this link. All you need to do is create a file in the xda_uc folder with the extension .mscr which contains the following:
Code:
delete \test.txt, TRUE
or
Code:
deltree \test, TRUE
Obviously change test to the file or directory you want to delete. For more details check out the provided link above.
Q. The default wifi.xml doesn't match my configuration and i can't find a resource that tells me what are valid values for the options?
A. See this link and this one. As a note if you use WPA2 you need to use <parm name="Authentication" value="6" /> and WPA2-PSK is 7
Q. The exchange settings in activesync.xml aren't how i like them. Can i change them?
A. Sure can! Here's a link to the documentation
Q. I use a [enter service name here] and i want to create an xml file to configure it when i update my rom. Can i do this?
A. Thanks to microsoft developing WAP provisioning to an incredibly encompassing level you can do almost anything. See this link
Q. I want to make a cab file out of all my changes. How do i this?
A. There are many ways but i think this is the best one i've found because it doesn't involve any third party software and is really simple. All you need is the windows mobile sdk, which can be found here. You may also need visual studio but i'm not sure
Making either is very simple. You just pass a normal XML file to makecab and give it the name of the output file you want. The one trick is that the XML file must be named _setup.xml. If you call it something else, makecab will succeed, the CAB or CPF file will be generated fine, and then it will fail with a cryptic error when you try to use it. Beware, the documentation doesn't make this very clear.
The syntax for making a CAB file is:
Code:
makecab _setup.xml config.cab
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Q. Wow you really do know a lot about this sort of stuff. How can i learn?
A. Well i don't know that much at all really, i just learn fast. Most of the stuff you see here was obtained from or via this MSDN article: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc500581.aspx
Q. Is there a way to boost the performance of Opera in terms of memory/speed?
A. Yes, this cab will force Sense to unload when launching Opera, allowing for better performance while browsing. (When exiting Opera, Sense will then reload) (thanks to Scabes24 for this one)
Code:
[URL="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O5O1RE97"]Enable Opera Max Memory Tweak.cab[/URL]
Q. I've installed the Opera tweak and everything is working fine, but the page loading seems very slow. Is there a way to improve this?
A. Yes you can, the following registry tweak will enable almost instantaneous web page loading in the web browser. It apparently enables wireless N mode but seems to work with cellular data too. Go to:
HKLM/Comm/BCMSDDHD1/Parms
11nModeDisable = Change from 1 to 0 (thanks to Scabes24 for this one aswell)
Q. My wifi hotspot uses EAP certification and i can't use it because the phone gives me a certificate verification failure error. What can i do?
This was posted in the energy rom thread
NRG, after weeks of not being able to connect to my work wireless network because I was getting a "certificate is from an unknown authority" error, I finally got it working. Can you add this key to your ROMs?
[\HKLM\Comm\EAP\Extension\25\]
"ValidateServerCert"=dword:00000000
This is where I found the answer:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/for...-3ebe003aa996/
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Thanks to oppressa for hunting this one down. The tweak is included as an option in EXCT as M3PH EAP Cert Disable.cab
Here are some locations where 3rd party apps store their values. These were provided by angusc
CodeCity Time settings and Key Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\CodeCity\CityTime]
Ageye G-Alarm settings and keycode:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ageye\G-Alarm]
Ageye G-Profile settings and keycode:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ageye\G-Profile_v1]
SK Manager settings and Keycode:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\sk\smgr]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:S KSM]
SlingPlayer Login Details:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Sling Media\SlingPlayer\SlingAccounts]
SPB Language Cards key code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F5C24D33-742A-41BC-BC22-1195BC138ECE}]
SPB Traveller Key Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{7D562A74-A69B-45F5-8D1F-20DABDCE2C76}]
SPB Wallet Key Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{A79D1B0D-2F6A-4E7E-AF94-5EEBC8BFD684}]
Sprite Back-up Key Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Sprite Software\Sprite Backup]
RSS Hub Settings and Feed Storage Locations:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ilium Software\RSS Hub]
SPB Traveller Settings:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Spb Software House\SPB Traveler]
Today Wall Paper Location:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today]
KeyBoard Config by Tarkim (Settings):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\KeyboardConfig]
Resco Explorer Settings:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Resco\Explorer]
Palringo Settings:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Parlingo\Settings]
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The FAQ
Q. Will you include xyz tweak for me?
A. Only if it's a common one or one that i haven't thought of
Q. I use xyz program and i want to have the config file included in your great collection. What do ya' say?
A. See above but you could always spend 10 minutes tracking it down and then creating a folder in copy2root for it
Q. Why is the bluetooth identity the only tweak for BT you include?
A. Because everyones setup and hardware is far too different for it to be worth it. Also, Although you can export the pairings importing them may not be possible due to the way the bluetooth security protocols work.
(More To Come)

Happy to try this, thank you for cobbling everything together.

wow
this would be so handy, i hate spending time making your phone how you like it. I don't flash as often because i get too comfortable with the current configuration.
thanx M3PH
btw: without NRGZ28 i would have sold my HD2 7 months ago

grumpylad said:
Happy to try this, thank you for cobbling everything together.
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No worries. I did it because i was getting annoyed with spending ages setting everything up and even more annoyed with people not reading the energy rom FAQ properly (i'm guilty of that too). I used the pre-release version last night after flashing the latest energy rom and it saved me in the region of an hour to an hour and a half. It's not perfect by a long way. Things like the sms led notification is enabled and some people may not like that but is is easily reverted with bsb tweaks.
My plans for the next version is to have all the reg files converted in to cab files for they can be removed and i'll tidy up the readme a bit.
One thing i would like help with though is the FAQ. Can the first few people take notes of any problems or questions they have and things or that nature.
Thanks everybody

Thank you, I'll try it out with the new Energy release. I'd be happy with the reg files to import it doesn't even need to be a cab!
Thanks!

lantern20 said:
Thank you, I'll try it out with the new Energy release. I'd be happy with the reg files to import it doesn't even need to be a cab!
Thanks!
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Cab files are better because they can be removed and Reg files can't. So if one of these files causes a problem your stuck and that's why it's labeled as alpha software. Also labelling it as that will scare off the less experienced users from trying it and doing themselves a mischief.
V0.2 will be all cab files as far as possible but don't expect a release until 0.1 has had a thorough real world testing.

oh. it is better ,if i find this post eight hour ago.
it drives me nuts ,everytime i get into a new nrg rom.
thank you very much.

Great idea man, thank you so much for this!

Thanks a lot for this! It will definitely save me a lot of time after a rom update. I just have to hope I've set them up correctly and dont break something

Hello
This project is a very good project, I hope is work well
Is it compatible with other language ?
Ex : "Start Menu" folder in WWE Rom is "Menu Démarrer" In FR
Good luck.
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diamond_cbr said:
Hello
This project is a very good project, I hope is work well
Is it compatible with other language ?
Ex : "Start Menu" folder in WWE Rom is "Menu Démarrer" In FR
Good luck.
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no sorry as it stands it's wwe only. If you want to convert it to french and send it over to me i will post it.
yeoldgreat, if you would like to pm me your changes i will look them over.
Overall i'm really pleased with the response so far but i really do need everyones help with composing the faq because for me this works fine (apart from the unteseted bits because i haven't used them yet) so can all of you please, please, please make some notes on your progress and keep posting those questions

M3PH said:
Overall i'm really pleased with the response so far but i really do need everyones help with composing the faq because for me this works fine (apart from the unteseted bits because i haven't used them yet) so can all of you please, please, please make some notes on your progress and keep posting those questions
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My temptation would be to assume that the FAQ is written for me if I can install and get it working anyone can. For instance in the wifi detailing where the various parm's can be found would make it much easier to install. Very happy to install on what you have and pass back any questions assumptions.
As I frequently flash(ROM's only) I can help with refining the documentation.

grumpylad said:
My temptation would be to assume that the FAQ is written for me if I can install and get it working anyone can. For instance in the wifi detailing where the various parm's can be found would make it much easier to install. Very happy to install on what you have and pass back any questions assumptions.
As I frequently flash(ROM's only) I can help with refining the documentation.
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Sweet, thanks. That is exactly the sort of thing i'm looking for, because it's been over a year since i did any kind of manual writting i'm pretty rusty. It also doesn't i developed most of the parts in just over 24 hours working on my phone and not my pc everything is a bit scattered in my mind. That's the reason why the readme looks the way it does. It all came out in a bit of a splurge.
The wifi script is one of my older scripts and it took 3 attempts to get right and now i can't for the life of me find the resource on ms technet that i used.
I'll probably have a sitdown over the weekend and have a rerun through the readme and make it a bit more detailed. If i can make it as easy to install as possible then the faq won't be such an important thing

How many people want me to include a coreplayer config.xml in the next version? i've got one that works perfectly with myplayer and turbo3d.

Nice Work
I used a number of these to flash the latest Energy Rom and it worked out great. Very smooth! It will be interesting to see what is added on in the future. Thank you for putting the time in and starting a new thread.

jamesdee said:
I used a number of these to flash the latest Energy Rom and it worked out great. Very smooth! It will be interesting to see what is added on in the future. Thank you for putting the time in and starting a new thread.
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I'm taking suggestions for additions. So how about one?

Very interesting sir!
I am going to flash the new Energy ROM either tonight or tomorrow and so will chuck this in with it.
I wont use several of them as I dont use those aspects, but those I do will return with feedback.
I have been frustrated with this as well.... fingers crossed.

[Q] Office Mobile fully functional?

Hi guys,
I've searched this forum and haven't found an answer to my question, so I'm gonna post it here. (Hopefully I did the search right and didn't commit the felony of a double post. )
I'm planning on buying a new phone, mainly because my old HTC Charmer (WM 6.1) doesn't support SDHC cards and the maximum of 4GB of the cards I can use with it is just not enough any more.
So far, I've read quite some disappointing details about Windows Phone 7:
- No more "free" apps (by which I mean apps programmed by someone and offered somewhere, now it's the same sh** as with an iPhone or an Android phone)
- No direct USB-sync, which means you have to send your private information to the cloud in order to sync
- No "real" support for SD-Cards (and getting more storage space is the whole da** point here, otherwise I'm quite happy with my Charmer)
So, basically I thought about getting a second hand HTC Touch Pro II running WM 6.5 AND supporting NORMAL SDHC cards (meaning ALL cards which comply with the standard, not just the ones "certified by Microsoft").
But there might be one killer feature which could make me, well, not really forget, but maybe turn a blind eye to WP7's SHAMEFUL flaws: The new Microsoft Office Mobile. Often, I have some Excel spreadsheets which I need for work at different places. This is the only reason I have to take a laptop computer with me, apart from that my phone would be fine.
Office Mobile in WM 6.1 (or 6.5) couldn't display / make use of all the features the Desktop-Version offered (like extremely complicated formulae or spreadsheets and of course macros), and, moreover, after having worked on and saved an Office document on a phone, the features would even have been removed from the file in the conversion process, so the file was useless on the desktop as well.
Thus, I'm asking the following questions (which surprisingly haven't been answered on the net so far, or am I just too stupid to google it right?):
- Is the Office in WM 7 fully functional, meaning you can work on Excel sheets with the most complicated formulae and macros, or, asked more simple, can you do everything you can do with the Desktop version on your phone as well?
- If it doesn't offer everything the desktop versions offers, does it at least keep everything that was there in the original file after you change and save it on your phone? I mean, even if I can't use macros on the Windows Phone, it might still be helpful to open an .xls file on the phone, make a few changes (which don't require macros), save the file on the phone and after putting it back on a desktop computer having the file "unharmed" (meaning except for the small change I made on the phone everything else is as it was)?
Hopefully, I made my point clear enough, if not, I'm happy to answer questions on what it is exactly that I want to know. I think many users here already having a Windows phone will have tried working on Office documents on their phones and I hope those will share their experiences with me.
Many thanks for reading my post and even more thanks for answering.
Peter

Firstly,in terms of the functionalities of the excel,I don't think WP7 is suitable for you.
Furthermore,personally I prefer USB drag and drop the documents to my device,maybe you can call me old school.I just find the office useless for me since I don't have sharepoint,I don't want create a dropbox account just to upload my file to cloud and download it to my device again and I don't have a data plan.Therefore,until now, I still didn't use the office app once.
In your situation,I think you need an android phone to handle your job this moment,you can just purchase quick office,docs to go,depends on your personal preference.In addition,the only office app available is just microsoft office,no other choices.furthermore,as you said,you want transfer it back to your desktop unharm,therefore it is good to have drag and drop file transfer function rather than rely on dropbox,upload to the cloud and download on your desktop again.
On the other hand,there is no clear information about the mango updates which add more features to the office.So,I'll would suggest you to go with Android or iOS for this moment.

Thank you for the answer.

No more "free" apps (by which I mean apps programmed by someone and offered somewhere, now it's the same sh** as with an iPhone or an Android phone)
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Free, in cost, there are plenty. Free as in not first checked by MS, kinda but no. You can developer unlock your device and sideload apps. However, that being said, MS are pretty good, they're only blocking apps which don't meet quality control standards (which I think is a good thing) or, somewhat contentiously, are "adult". They're not playing the same game as Apple.
I'm confused by you saying Android though. You can easily download and install programs (apk) on your device from any source (you just have to choose that option in the settings).
Office in Mango is improving - specifically:
1. Better support for formulae
2. Skydrive sync
So, yes, formulae can be created and manipulated in Excel, though I wouldn't say it's a replacement for the real Excel. It certainly can't run macros.
Skydrive is still "in the cloud" however, you're automatically registered to the free account by the virtue of having a live id. I still believe we should have USB file transfer but at least this is better than nothing.
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[Q] [office app] most complete one?

Hi,
I'm having some troubles about editing Office files (.doc, .ppt and similar)
I have tried Polaris Office, KIngsoft Office and Office Suite but I'm not satysfied by them, though Office Suite it's the best of this apps.
I work with complex documents files, so I need footer, correct paragraphs, tables, hyperlinks, differents type of effects on words, ecc..
Also, I usually edit files originally created with the standard Word or PowerPoint by Microsoft, so I need a great compatibility.
Have you any advice about which Office app is the most complete?
Thanks
ps. Sorry for my English

I personally like Quickoffice Pro because I think its the most complete. You should try it.
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Mordred88 said:
Hi,
I'm having some troubles about editing Office files (.doc, .ppt and similar)
I have tried Polaris Office, KIngsoft Office and Office Suite but I'm not satysfied by them, though Office Suite it's the best of this apps.
I work with complex documents files, so I need footer, correct paragraphs, tables, hyperlinks, differents type of effects on words, ecc..
Also, I usually edit files originally created with the standard Word or PowerPoint by Microsoft, so I need a great compatibility.
Have you any advice about which Office app is the most complete?
Thanks
ps. Sorry for my English
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If you move to Quickoffice for Word files:
*header/footer will be view only
*you can follow but not edit hyperlinks hidden behind words (the difference between seeing http://www.... and "click here")
*you should be ok with tables, paragraph formatting, and formatting words (we have most of the basic options covered).
In Point files, our latest release includes the ability to view animations, shadow, and reflection effects, as well as covers all the basics for text mentioned above.
If you really want to know if your files work, you can always submit a ticket here with a sample file or two, and our team will test to make sure that you don't run into any issues.
Hope that helps

Would a VNC-type application work for you? As in Splashtop (I think this is included in Asus stock software: see MyCloud).
When format integrity is the most important thing and I have decent connection throughput, this is what I use. Wireless mouse makes a world of difference. Slow connection will make this frustrating to use, though.

The problems with Quickoffice are with footer/header and hyperlinks, as you said.
GraphicSilence said:
Would a VNC-type application work for you? As in Splashtop (I think this is included in Asus stock software: see MyCloud).
When format integrity is the most important thing and I have decent connection throughput, this is what I use. Wireless mouse makes a world of difference. Slow connection will make this frustrating to use, though.
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I have a decent connection, but I don't know what a VNC-type application is
I have an application called "MyCloud", but don't understand what's its function.

A VNC application allows you to view and control a remote PC via another device. So you would be able to edit your documents as if you were using your actual PC, but on the tablet.
I would recommend that you download Splashtop 2 from the Play store as I find it works better with the tablet and dock. The setup is fairly simple.

pukeboy said:
A VNC application allows you to view and control a remote PC via another device. So you would be able to edit your documents as if you were using your actual PC, but on the tablet.
I would recommend that you download Splashtop 2 from the Play store as I find it works better with the tablet and dock. The setup is fairly simple.
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Thank you for the advice and explanation, i would definitely use that solution!

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