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Quick question: Is the Eten Glofiish M 800 a HTC rebrand or totally thier own.
MercuryTyTN said:
Quick question: Is the Eten Glofiish M 800 a HTC rebrand or totally thier own.
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Their own; see http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=878
However, I'd wait for the V900 instead if you definitely want to go for E-TEN See http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1080
Menneisyys said:
Their own; see http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=878
However, I'd wait for the V900 instead if you definitely want to go for E-TEN See http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1080
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pass on the V 900, I need my slide out keyboard. May wait if they announce a sliding keyboard version of the 900.
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
Forgot to mention that providing VGA resolution in qVGA size is Eten and no HTC has it!
Regards,
Carty..
Does Eten provide drivers optimized for hardware video acceleration? Seeing the limitations of recent HTC phones, and having in mind a VGA resolution requires 4x the processing power of QVGA, I would say that's a must.
And, do they offer ROM updates too? HTC gave free updates from WM 5 to WM 6 for many of their phones.
Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Yeah well if HTC keeps treating its customers like crap maybe there will be support for Eten in here(crappy phones, crappy customer support, bad or wroong drivers)
M810
MercuryTyTN said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pass on the V 900, I need my slide out keyboard. May wait if they announce a sliding keyboard version of the 900.
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if you really need a keyboard you might wanna wait for the Eten M810, the sucessor to the M800, it looks really good with good specs, from personnal experience, the devices are good quality and the roms have plenty of OEM customazation from Eten.
Carty said:
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Hi, I had from many years a HTC Himalaya and I loved it... but now I have bought an ETEN Glofiish M800... about the Customizable ROM here u can find a recently customized Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM for the Glofiish: http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=13538
Regards,
Cristian (aka tesKing)
i dont know for these new devices but for the x500/m700 ive read in many forums that eten devices with vga screens were "slow"
but ive tested none by myself
I have a TYTNII and bought the Eten M800 due to the VGA screen. The speed is more or less the same as for the HTC, i.e. slow but still useable. However you get VGA resolution in a very good quality screen. Apart form that, the M800 is almost inusable, it has touch sensitive buttons that make the everyday use a real PAIN. The WM6 is very unstable in this device probably due to the amount of (useless) applicattions that ETEN has preloaded. I found a workaround to the problem of the buttons:
1) Disable the touch buttons using the registry (leave "OK" and the Windows logo only)
2) Change the voice comnmander by the Cyberon Voice Speed dial
Then there is the problem of the paint....mine looks like 5 years old and has les than one month. Unfortunately I sold the TYTNII... too early.
I use the M800 and I am quite satisfied so far.
Sold my Touch Dual and apart from the weird touch buttons and the small RAM its a very nice device.
There are cooked roms available and you don't need to unlock anything. just put the ROM files on a FAT16 SD card, boot, hold a few buttons and 8 mins later its done.
GPSSlovakias WM 6.1 ROM for the M800 is stable and fast, much faster than the stock ROM.
i also disabled the buttons on the front. unfortunately they are not really usable.
the M810 is nice for sure, but only QVGA!
once you get used to a VGA screen you really cant go back anymore. the difference is huge. especially with apps that take full use of it, like the excellent Netfront 3.5 browser and PocketXpdf.
also it just looks that much cleaner. on TodayAgenda I can show much more info, the SPB Plus and Phone icons looks superb, etc...
IMHO its a great device but has a few shortcommings.
what i would love in the next eten:
128MB ram
flush screen
real front buttons
better keyboard
i would not say that the M800 is unusable. not for me, at least.
it was a great upgrade to my touch dual and as the dual has basically no hardware buttons, it doesnt make much difference that the M800 ones are unusable
btw, I used AE Button Plus for disabling the buttons as its more comfortable that way
the speed of the device is very good with the newest WM 6.1 ROM, really. and there is a new touch screen driver that resolves the 80% CPU bug when pressing the screen.
ROMs for ETEN M800
I agree that once you disable the buttons the device is just OK, specially the screen pays for the rest of the troubles (shared in part by HTC devices). However, I miss the nice send and end buttons of the TYTNII. Where do you get the cooked ROMs? Do you know if there is any available in spanish? I had to buy the WME version because apparently they don't market the device in Spain or any spanish speaking country or I haven't located any dealer selling a spanish version... Maybe it still does not exsist.
I've been able to enter in bootlader mode by pressing power+record+hw reset, then a terminal screen prompts for a USB loader and then for a SD card image file, however I haven't found any rom so far.
here:
WM 6.1 thread
but if you can wait, a new rom version will be upped, according to the thread starter.
I have the WWE version too, as they dont make them in German
no idea if there is a spanish rom.
of course good buttons would be nice, but i disabled the lower row and use the win, ok, left, right buttons and it works well that way.
btw if you click the record button twice, the touchbuttons get locked. if you click twice again, they get unlocked. maybe this is helpful for you
I see a lot of people complaining about the touch buttons but I am having a good experience with them. I found M800 really nice and usable.
Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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What program do you use to record calls?
Thank you
Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Hi,
Could you tell, please, what program do you use to record on both ways with an E-ten?
Thank you
hi there....
should i buy this fone for 250€ ?
i got an HTC Wizard for 3 years.
The m800 is the worst phone I ever had..
Bad paint, flimsy battery cover, 64MB RAM (too low for the VGA screen).
Even my ancient universal is faster (also with 64 MB) then the m800..
Glad to have a diamond now.
My advice: it's not worth the money.
For 250 you can probably buy yourself a second hand Diamond..
Hi guys,
I have tried searching for a thread like this but only found one from 07', Im think about upgrading my Trinity to a newer model but i am not sure which model to upgrade to, I like the looks of the Diamond but not sure about the battery life and size, is the Diamond pro (not sure if that is the correct name, it has the slide out keyboard) going to be any better? How dose the Titan compare? Or the Polaris? Is there any others I have missed?
Thanks
I don't know about the best HTC, but I can tell you that we are hearing a lot of rumours about bugs and lock ups with the Diamond. I haven't checked recently though, maybe they have brought out a less buggy rom for it or solved the issue.
you're asking for out personal opinions, so you can't hope to get an unskewed answer.
my answer- get a smartphone with plenty of ram and processor. You'll love the ease of use that i just can't seem to get on ppc.
My personnal:
pros - TouchFlo 3D, G-sensor,VGA screen,Size,Design
cons - speed of WM6 scrooling,slower video playback (but still can play unconverted videos), everyone MUST try it, so you can not even tell somebody you have it.
Hi Guys, currently using Artemis the now and due to upgrade with O2 next week. Really like the TouchPro, looks cool and want the slide out QWERTY keyboard this time ( only thing i miss on artemis ) Anyway, does it perform well and have good battery life AND one final question, is it better than the xperia because O2 say i can have that instead of Serra(TouchPro).
Thanks guys for any help you can give me.
Cheers,D.
droy68 said:
Hi Guys, currently using Artemis the now and due to upgrade with O2 next week. Really like the TouchPro, looks cool and want the slide out QWERTY keyboard this time ( only thing i miss on artemis ) Anyway, does it perform well and have good battery life AND one final question, is it better than the xperia because O2 say i can have that instead of Serra(TouchPro).
Thanks guys for any help you can give me.
Cheers,D.
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I have not had the pleasure of playing with a Xperia but I love my Fuze (Touch Pro). I went from an 8525 ot a Tilt and now a Fuze and I absolutely love it! It has so much storage memory that I no longer have to install my programs on my storage card.
I have two friends that went for the Xperia. Both never had a WM before.
They like it.
I have TP, I've played quite some time with their Xperias... I am keeping my TP.
Thanks guys, sticking to the TouchPro i think, The xperia has a mixed variety of reviews.
Cheers, D
Depend on which provider you are going for, I have the Sprint varient and I love it much more over my old Titan. But since you are taking about the Xperia X1, I would think you want GSM. The Fuze shouldn't be that bad, but make sure IF you decide to go with the X1, go for the US varient from Sony if you reside in the US, I have head about a lot of compatibility issues with the X1. The Fuze on the other hand is not widescreen, but still quite beautiful in its own glossy way and is cheaper. The Sony ericsson too is sexy in a distinct way. It'll all up to personal preference, whether you want a full 5 row qwerty keyboard, or a wide screen with brushed metal as the extra perk when you get the phone. Either way it is a good choice, and there are tons of people on this site who can help you with both phones.
Read some reviews, and youtube videos, or check them out in person. The only one who knows what phone you want is you... Good luck!
Many thanks u8myfoood, Network will be O2 as i reside in Scotland in the UK, had a look at the 2 of them and the TouchPro(Serra) is winning hands down at the moment, was just wondering if it was fast and stable as they make out ??
Cheers, D
Well ther might be different views that you'll see people has about both phone, but just to say, touch pro has g-sensor which x1 don't have. well i have touch pro as you might have seen on my signature and avatar well im very sattisfied.. all is working really great and smooth..the touch pro have 3d accelerator (do x1 has that?).. well i'm a gamer too and touch pro is perfect for that, (i play cod2 without any problems hehe and tony hawk pro skater 2 ) well another thing is that touch pro has a 5 row qwert keyboard which x1 doesn't have.. you have to use the function key on x1 to get to the numbers.. well x1 has larger screen i guess..
Many thanks you guys, this is certainly made my mind up, New TouchPro for me is on its way. Just out of curiosity, when using the artemis with manilla 2D i can change themes etc using M2DC, is it the same or do i need software for TouchPro 3D ???
Cheers, D
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070 Advanced Configuration Tool 3.3 rulez
edit: I'm wrong TF3D Config
search the forum for Diamond TF3d Config and you'll be able to change themes using that..
Cheers Guys, very helpful indeed. You'll all probably hear from me when i receive it just to keep me right on things, been used to my artemis for so long now so i guess it's a bit antiquated.
Many Thanks, D
Ok just had the chance to play around with a Xperia X1. I am really disappointed in Sony. This device looked very promising but to me was not acceptable. The Sony was very unresponsive and sloooow. Even with a cooked ROM and tweaked out it was very unimpressive. My Fuze absolutely screams with [WWE]RRE HTC Fuze ROM Ver 4.4.5 Special Edition on it. My buddy who bought the X1 is not a happy camper. I told him to go for the Fuze.
droy68, I hope you like your Pro when it arrives : )
A week ago my friend gave me his Artemis to upgrade the ROM to one with Manila 2D. I was amazed how quickly the interface worked. It's actually a bit more responsive than TouchFlo 3D is on my Pro's standard ROM.
Also, I loved the the scroll wheel, it's brilliant! As you may miss this, it may be worth pointing out that you can enable the touch scroll on the Pro to be active in more programs than it is by default. You need to add entries for each application in the registry under HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch... See this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406206. Alternatively, I think both Diamond Tweak and Schap's advanced config 3.3 can do it for you. I prefer to add things manaully so I can see what's going on : )
Finallly, if you miss the finger friendly contact page of Touch Flo 2D. You can always install a VGA version of Manila 2D instead of using TouchFlo 3D. I haven't tried this myself yet....
first i like fuze (touch pro).. i like the qwerty keyboard.. but i heard a lot of video crap.. like the old days of kaiser..
my other options are Omnia and Xperia
Omnia has a good feedback at video and speed.. but lacks the qwerty board... but it has 16gb internal memory
Xperia because of the qwerty and speed.. but dont know any flaws..
Xperia and Fuze has a very good support in our site.. i dont know about Omnia??
please give me a feedback like pros and cons, personal experiences..
or should i save my money and wait for the next set of PPC by HTC this 2nd quarter of the year.. WinMo 7 will be release.. and wishing for the snapdragon chipset to be integrated.. 1gig Mhz.. can support 12mp camera.. still hoping...
Fuze
I had the same decision and i bought the Raphael/Touch Pro/Fuze. got it mostly for the keyboard but also because i loved the look of Touch Flo 3D.
At first i was a little disappointed, i had to soft reset at least once a day to keep it working and everything was pretty slow, but i flashed my ROM to Elite RC3 a while ago and it made my Raphael the phone that i wanted it to be to begin with!
Pros extremely fast everywhere, very stable, slide out keyboard is the best you will find IMHO, nice looking interface that is extremely useful and a time saver, lots of applications made just for it!
Cons Its not as good straight out of the box (flash the ROM), camera is slow as a wet week (missed many a photo)
as for the other two i cant give any first hand experience but you will have to find another website for support on the omnia (counts it out for me lol)
Xperia is a great phone it has support on this site (albeit not as much as the Raphael) if it was me choosing again i would be choosing between the Xperia Panels vs Touch Flo 3D and which i like the look of best.
Oh btw one of the things that really swayed me to the Raphael over the Xperia (my 2nd choice) was the VGA screen, im a huge software lover and LOTS of the games and applications i love aren't WVGA compatible and i didn't want to have to run a resolution changer program all the time.
hope this helps you!
thanks man.. im also thinking in the future use.. winmo 7 will use gesture and xperia doesnt have it.. maybe il buy the fuze..
btw, how's your eperience in palying games? slow? im seeing lot of video driver problem in fuze.. does this new ROMs already know to fix it? or putting the D3D from diamond does it?
for your information, you might not be able to use your fuze with WM7's new features since microsoft announced it might require different hardware
go with HTC Advantage 7510. BIG 5" screen, full haptic keyboard and 16Gb storage
thats too bad.. if fuze cant make it to WM7.. i think ill wait for the new addition of HTC. Rhodium ROCKS! its like touch HD with qwerty board! wow.. ill stick with my good old hermes before rhodium hits.. thanks by the way!
in the meantime, get over to the hermes section and flash section8prime8 wm6.5 beta!
Hello
Got some screenshots..enjoy them..will post more..in some days.
G sensor can be hacked to used with other apps from registry.
Any questions, pls feel free to ask here
can you give some feedback about the performance and how much did you pay for it?
performance is better than omia and i guess better than all existing devices using msm 7200a except HTC HD..It is a testing uni. pricing is not known yet
Hi hdubli, is Mr. Broadcom again... Any thought about my search?
User22. sorry no Mr Broadcom but MS.But the registry do have some entries reg the broadcom..however u can have a look at mr Bluesolil
Any feedback on the trackball effectiveness?
How does the fake leather on the front effect the design?
Is that a flash or speaker on the back near camera? where is the speaker?
Size, will it fit well in a jeans front pocket- or will it feel bulky(too long)?
Battery life with 2-3 calls 10 minutes GSM and in general in hours?
How soon will we see it for sale?
Thank you
hdubli said:
User22. sorry no Mr Broadcom but MS.But the registry do have some entries reg the broadcom..however u can have a look at mr Bluesolil
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Can you point me to that bluesoleil? ,i'm lost about it.
Thanks a lot for your help.
the bt stack is from asus..not from ms and not from broadcom...for Bluesolil chk yr pm
fockin qualcomm cpu omg, is that asus really faster than omnia?
What about the camera and flash? I´m looking for a new PDA with a nice camera, so i´m considering P835 or LG GM730
hdubli said:
Hello
Got some screenshots..enjoy them..will post more..in some days.
G sensor can be hacked to used with other apps from registry.
Any questions, pls feel free to ask here
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how would you do that in the registry? I got a P835 and the autorotation works for a limited applications only. I am also trying to make it work with apps that were build for HTC g-sensors.
Someone manage to port the HTC g-sensor wrapper to Omnia. I tried the wrapper (a few dll's) but does not work at all. I am hoping there will be developers that will look into this Asus wrapper.
Camera and related
There is no flash on the back, the speaker there seems mono and a weak one at that, camera has given me noisy pics so far, have to try it out in full day light yet, trackball is good, This is one thing that made me buy it over HTC Diamond II. I have not been able to find a good MP4 player for it yet.
On the positive side, I removed the default today addins and added PointUI. The black look of that interface goes well with the P835 design.
The phone is responsive with enough memory to spare. Though I feel let down by the lack of main storage as a lot of application add on to the Windows folder. Any help in that department is greatly appreciated (Extendir ? any body got a CAB installer for it that works on P835, I can test it if somebody can provide it for me).
Thanks HDUBLI, you have been a great contributor for the ASUS.
Guys what did you think about this pda? Plan to get one. But I heard from other forum that they said the touch scree will fail, means the stylus can't detachable on the screen.