Rave: New Phone - Touch Pro, Fuze General

This evening I picked up my new HTC Fuze - I'm thrilled!
After a good deal of grief with starting a new AT&T plan with my girlfriend I managed to get my new toy! I rarely will consider taking advice from employees at chain stores but after two visits at Best Buy I was actually very impressed.
On the first visit we were only looking at phones for my girlfriend and I wanted to see if they had any htc touch demo models. After talking to an associate about my interest in android (assuming he would be clueless) he gave me a pleasant surprise in describing the differences between carriers, limitations, status of android port and lots of other things. I've been reading the xda-developers and howard forums for a few weeks now but was still a little gun shy because I didn't feel like I got the whole picture (I'm a knowledge control freak - if I don't feel like I *really* know what i'm talking about - I'm extremely hesitant..). Anyway - he unintentionally convinced me that I wanted the htc fuze with AT&T. But he wasn't actually trying to sell it to me (yea yea.. i know thats the best sales tactic) - he was actually just as interested in android and pda hacking as most of the people here are.
On the second visit - after I had some of my current cell plan issues worked out - we returned to best buy and started a new plan. We worked with some different employees that were equally considerate and gave us the blunt truth about differences in insurance and other things. Sure - they were doing there job - but I never felt like they were jumping on us trying to get us in and out the door.
Anyway - I'm usually a cynic when it comes to chain stores, sales people and cell phone companies in general - but now I would actually recommend Best Buy when looking at a new cell plan or cell phone related questions in general.
Now - on to the hacking and tweaking! I'm gonna try to go a week without any major mods then hopefully I can me functional member of this forum!
P.S. Again - if this is the wrong forum to post in I apologize - I'll try to get with the program. I was just a little over excited and wanted to share with everyone.
P.S.S. And no - I don't work for Best Buy!
-Keith

You'll want to check out the rom section. Lots of good 6.5 roms, PLEASE read the "flashing your rom for the first time" before you download one.

Welcome to the Darkside brother

p51d007 said:
You'll want to check out the rom section. Lots of good 6.5 roms, PLEASE read the "flashing your rom for the first time" before you download one.
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Yep - definitely will. I can't really afford to brick my phone.. I'll be reading half a dozen tutorials and probably asking a few questions before I dive in.

kistler82 said:
Yep - definitely will. I can't really afford to brick my phone.. I'll be reading half a dozen tutorials and probably asking a few questions before I dive in.
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well, i read the forum for 3 days after getting my phone(used, $180, but still, it's expensive)
the main thing is to flash HardSPL... after that, it's really hard to brick the phone

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well, i read the forum for 3 days after getting my phone(used, $180, but still, it's expensive)
the main thing is to flash HardSPL... after that, it's really hard to brick the phone
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Now THAT is useful - thanks paperWastage!

Congratulations! It's a great phone.. not perfect, but it's still awesome.
Enjoy =)

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Now - on to the hacking and tweaking! I'm gonna try to go a week without any major mods then hopefully I can me functional member of this forum!
-Keith
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I couldn't wait a week. Just flash a new ROM and Radio asap. You won't regret it. Try the one in my signature.
Just make sure you read the tutorial on flashing ROMs before you start.

RRE roms
Thumbs up on the RRE rom!
He just updated on the 27th to a newer version, which is even faster than the 921 version. Flashed it this afternoon. They just get better and better!
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I couldn't wait a week. Just flash a new ROM and Radio asap. You won't regret it. Try the one in my signature.
Just make sure you read the tutorial on flashing ROMs before you start.
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*NEW* Dutty ROM *NEW*

Asked a few times on Dutty's April thread and also sent a PM (although I didn't expect a reply from the PM)
My question is/was:
Is there going to be another Dutty ROM for the Kaiser? or is the April one the last. As there was a few minor problems with it there was mention he was going to do another but no one seems to be saying least of all Dutty - course I did read he was chilling for a bit.
//Before people whine and moan.. I did ask many times on the thread and searched for the answer this is my last resort!
Cheers!
why are you such a tool i've never posted once but people like you piss me off what kind of stupid question is that
This thread can be closed if you ask me....
What's the point in creating a new thread containing only a question if somebody is going to release a new ROM!?
People who are cooking ROM's are doing this for free in their spare time... ..they even got lives besides the XDA forum.
If there's a new ROM you wil see it in the thread of the Kaiser ROM Development.
Do us a favour and change the misleading title of your thread dude...
I hear his slowing down rom making i.e. don't expect one anytime soon, he has alot of work to do i hear he hasn't stopped it just isn't a priority anymore.
p.s. Now rum b4 thew angry mob gets here
You got to be kidding!
If you want to know what the cook is making for dinner then ask the cook. Asking the people in the super market won't help. If the cook doesn't answer you then just wait to see what he puts on the table. Unless your paying for the meal then be polite and don't bother the Chef. In short one would assume by your question that you have your pants custom made due to the sher size of your balls and I would bet their brass as well.
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I hear his slowing down rom making i.e. don't expect one anytime soon, he has alot of work to do i hear he hasn't stopped it just isn't a priority anymore.
p.s. Now rum b4 thew angry mob gets here
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LOL cheers for the reply mate.
seriously not bothered about the 'numptys' who will and have replied with the predictable blurb... lol just sheep imo
/can be closed now again cheers for the reply Inf
ericsundancekid said:
why are you such a tool i've never posted once but people like you piss me off what kind of stupid question is that
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ROFL
I have quoted you just so we can save your fantastically crap frst post! rofl!!
ahhh man classic numpty! can't stop laughing!
edbutler said:
If you want to know what the cook is making for dinner then ask the cook. Asking the people in the super market won't help. If the cook doesn't answer you then just wait to see what he puts on the table. Unless your paying for the meal then be polite and don't bother the Chef. In short one would assume by your question that you have your pants custom made due to the sher size of your balls and I would bet their brass as well.
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Well said.
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Well said.
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it's true
damn dude, you got me. I'm definitely a "humpty" cause I'm the idiot that decided to ask a retarded question and reply to my own thread four times in half an hour cause no one else wants to even bother looking at your useless garbage. go make your own roms if you're gonna ask stupid questions. later, "chap"
So I tried reaching into dutty's mind..couldn't come up with any info...he must have his tin hat on
Moderators please lock or remove this.
thx.
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LOL cheers for the reply mate.
seriously not bothered about the 'numptys' who will and have replied with the predictable blurb... lol just sheep imo
/can be closed now again cheers for the reply Inf
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He did say in one of the threads that he was getting a new device so development might slow down on his kaiser roms. If I was reading between the lines I would guess he's looking to move on. But I'm not a mind reader and so will take whatever he says literally, but really it's none of my business whether he continues or not.
If you'd have read the threads properly you would have noticed him mentioning this, he has done so more than once. Anyway, take it easy, but really this goes against the grain of the community, i.e. 'giving', none of the cooks owe us anything so we shouldn't be chasing them up with whether they're releasing a new ROM not.
Any new foreign movies?
I wanna watch a good foreign movie, any recommendations?
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I wanna watch a good foreign movie, any recommendations?
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Ah ok...well if we are going to discuss something worthwhile... then by all means.
MY girlfriend and I have gotten into watching alot of asian horror, and have branched out into other countries as well.
Check out "El Orfanto", The Orphanage, a very good ghost story from Spain.
If you haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth, or really anything by Guillermo del Toro, you should check it out.
I must say that most of the asian horror is sort of "out there" and doesn't make as much of an impact to western sensibilities... good acting, pacing, but much left unexplained. One that isn't exactly "horror" but just an awesome, messed up story...see Oldboy, a korean film.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! My head hurts from reading this thread... why did I bother?
Now I'm wasting time posting on it. If this thread were a banana, I would squish it. Comprehensively.
Dutty and a few others, are kinda sick of Kaiser & will be jumping ship shortly. Don't expect Great Kaiser roms forever. Not with newer & greater toys right around the corner. Many of us will be leaving shortly.
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He did say in one of the threads that he was getting a new device so development might slow down on his kaiser roms. If I was reading between the lines I would guess he's looking to move on. But I'm not a mind reader and so will take whatever he says literally, *but really it's none of my business whether he continues or not.
If you'd have read the threads properly you would have noticed him mentioning this, he has done so more than once. Anyway, take it easy, but really this goes against the grain of the community, i.e. 'giving', none of the cooks owe us anything so we shouldn't be chasing them up with whether they're releasing a new ROM not.
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lol spit it out will you!
I never said it was my business, and maybe it 'goes against the grain' but it was a perfectly legitimate question and was asked clearly with nothing other than, I'll wait if there is another on the way.. rather than install the 'last' ROM.
What's hilarious is that my question was answered quickly and concisely by Infuruno (page 1 post 3!) - now that's all that was required simply put and job done!.
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I hear his slowing down rom making i.e. don't expect one anytime soon, he has alot of work to do i hear he hasn't stopped it just isn't a priority anymore.
p.s. Now rum b4 thew angry mob gets here
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And a lovely tongue in cheek ending!
*talk about the rest of you all making a mountain out of a mole hill! LOL
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Dutty and a few others, are kinda sick of Kaiser & will be jumping ship shortly. Don't expect Great Kaiser roms forever. Not with newer & greater toys right around the corner. Many of us will be leaving shortly.
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Indeed I hear you probs be going the same way in a few months
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Hi guys , I'm abandoning this release for now as it seems there still issues with this build, not sure if its the newer wm6.1, I havent tried 5.2.19212 as yet, but there are random freezes with these build , i know people are mentioning it could be hardspl but I cant see how is that have to do with it, My thoughts it could be related to the dynamice pagepool setting with also with our customcache settings,
I fixed most issues so far, including contacts and other stuff, but dont feel its still stable.
I'm also looking to get a new device soon,
So for now I will not support this thread, also I'm also busy at work again, thanks for supporting guys, I will be at the background trying to do one more release, but need to investigate the random freezing we experiencing now with these new builds
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Hi Guys i have been really busy agauin at work, i'm starting with the new Rom, not really happen with last one, one of my worst rom, but its a learning experience, seems there is more to wm6.1 now especially with the Diamond build, also I'm very interested in getting a new phone so not really motivated in cooking roms for kaiser no more since HTC let us down. as soon as i near completion I will let you guys now.
As said before The hybrid wm6.1 roms are my favourites just that the new drivers wont work, so I will be playing agin with some new builds and if we still got issues i might do another hybrid with all updated apps, my apologies, i would recommend if u still want to use one of my stable roms, still use hybrid april 01 or hybrid 29 thanks guys
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Guys I'm packing up kaiser cooking and cooking for diamond who wants to join me, You will get wm7 on it as soon as it launch
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WOW - this is NOT the tweet I wanted to read...

Kmobs just tweeted this: "So.... looks like I don't have a mytouch 4g anymore... ups says delivered... and there is nothing at my door. Fml"
No - I wish I could say I'm joking - but I'm not...
I wonder what the impact on us getting CM is going to be...
Kmobs already had a MT4G, so i am not really sure what UPS was delivering
He just posted an update, "Guys the mytouch I have now I bought full price and am going to remorse. Got it early to work on for you. the other was cheap and is gone."
Yeah, I'm a bit confused as well.
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Kmobs already had a MT4G, so i am not really sure what UPS was delivering
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I bought a full price mytouch to work on (and then remorse) as my cheap one came from my friend. The cheap one was supposed to be delivered today but nothing came to my door. I have to return the mytouch I currently have in my possession to T-Mobile.
I'm going to contact UPS tomorrow.
I'd be willing to make a donation to help replace it - I don't have a lot but if it would help?
Thank you for the offer, but I really don't want to accept money. I plan on moving on when the Nexus S comes out so I do not feel it would be fair.
Looks like I'll be sending this phone back tomorrow. Seems this phone is not gonna get to much love from the devs.
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Thank you for the offer, but I really don't want to accept money. I plan on moving on when the Nexus S comes out so I do not feel it would be fair.
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Hmmm... 3 more days of buyers remorse. Tempting!
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Thank you for the offer, but I really don't want to accept money. I plan on moving on when the Nexus S comes out so I do not feel it would be fair.
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you arent going to file a complaint with UPS? that sucks
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Looks like I'll be sending this phone back tomorrow. Seems this phone is not gonna get to much love from the devs.
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This is exactly the kind of crap that's bringing these forums down. A handful of devs make stuff for a phone, and thousands of people follow. Nobody is willing to do anything for themselves anymore. So you're going to return your phone(which is a fantastic phone by the way), because somebody isn't going to make themes and there won't be a bajillion different roms available?
I first started with xda back in the day when I had my t-mobile SDA. I got ahold of an mda with a then unreleased WM6 rom from a microsoft mvp and I uploaded it to xda. I made a few windows mobile roms for myself and shared them in the forums. And I modified some apk's in the nexus one forums. I don't just 'know' how to do this stuff. I learned it because I wanted to. I didn't wait for somebody to give me what I want. I did it for myself, and then I shared.
This is how it used to be at xda. Now it's just 'gimme gimme gimme'.
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This is exactly the kind of crap that's bringing these forums down. A handful of devs make stuff for a phone, and thousands of people follow. Nobody is willing to do anything for themselves anymore. So you're going to return your phone(which is a fantastic phone by the way), because somebody isn't going to make themes and there won't be a bajillion different roms available?
I first started with xda back in the day when I had my t-mobile SDA. I got ahold of an mda with a then unreleased WM6 rom from a microsoft mvp and I uploaded it to xda. I made a few windows mobile roms for myself and shared them in the forums. And I modified some apk's in the nexus one forums. I don't just 'know' how to do this stuff. I learned it because I wanted to. I didn't wait for somebody to give me what I want. I did it for myself, and then I shared.
This is how it used to be at xda. Now it's just 'gimme gimme gimme'.
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Know what's funny? The fact you're pissed because I made a decision for myself! I don't have the time to learn how to do all of this or else maybe I would attempt to contribute.
InGeNeTiCs said:
This is exactly the kind of crap that's bringing these forums down. A handful of devs make stuff for a phone, and thousands of people follow. Nobody is willing to do anything for themselves anymore. So you're going to return your phone(which is a fantastic phone by the way), because somebody isn't going to make themes and there won't be a bajillion different roms available?
I first started with xda back in the day when I had my t-mobile SDA. I got ahold of an mda with a then unreleased WM6 rom from a microsoft mvp and I uploaded it to xda. I made a few windows mobile roms for myself and shared them in the forums. And I modified some apk's in the nexus one forums. I don't just 'know' how to do this stuff. I learned it because I wanted to. I didn't wait for somebody to give me what I want. I did it for myself, and then I shared.
This is how it used to be at xda. Now it's just 'gimme gimme gimme'.
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It's not even that for me, it's more that daunting feeling that something newer and better will come out shortly and I might regret not having waited. I'm not saying the Nexus S will be better, but it's intriguing enough that part of me thinks I should at least give it a try. No harm in comparing right? That's how I decided between the G2 and MT4G and boy am I glad I didn't settle for the G2. I realize how unsustainable and dissatisfying this attitude is since there will always be something "bigger and better" right around the corner, just can't help it
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Know what's funny? The fact you're pissed because I made a decision for myself! I don't have the time to learn how to do all of this or else maybe I would attempt to contribute.
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I'm not at all pissed. I'm sad. I'm sad that a forum that was once full of people willing to contribute is now full of people that are 'too busy'. Last week, I worked just under 50 hours, painted my kitchen, replaced the counter-tops, installed a new sink, faucet, and garbage disposal, painted the cabinets, pulled the motor from my motorcycle, cleaned the gutters, raked and mowed my lawn(last time for the season), picked up my 3 girls every day(like I do every day), made dinner every night(wife doesn't get home til after 6)....and guess what? I STILL found time to pull apart rosie.apk and started modifying xml's because people are getting excited now that the mytouch is rooted and I wanted to contribute.
You are NOT too busy. I can assure you of that.
Well, for me, I'm gonna tough it out...
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It's not even that for me, it's more that daunting feeling that something newer and better will come out shortly and I might regret not having waited. I'm not saying the Nexus S will be better, but it's intriguing enough that part of me thinks I should at least give it a try. No harm in comparing right? That's how I decided between the G2 and MT4G and boy am I glad I didn't settle for the G2. I realize how unsustainable and dissatisfying this attitude is since there will always be something "bigger and better" right around the corner, just can't help it
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Ya I hear you there. I get like that sometimes. But mainly because I just like gadgets. I bought the nexus one while I was watching their press release. I pressed the refresh button in my browser until the order page went live.
I too got the g2 when it came out, while it was a great device, I found that I didn't need the keyboard, and the added thickness that comes with it. So I traded it in for the mytouch.
The problem with these devices is that they're not THAT different from each other. They all have this or that little feature, but it's all the same underlying hardware. 1ghz cpu, bunch of ram, hd recording...blah blah blah. It gets old after a while. If my company didn't take over my phone contract and pay for my upgrade, I would have gladly kept my nexus one. To this day, it's still my favorite phone. It's just so damn solid.
The mytouch is similar in form, but without all the metal of the nexus, it's just not the same. Anyways, I forgot the point I was trying to make, but we have to tell my girls this all the time "you get what you get, and you don't get upset". You picked that device for a reason, now ride that ***** 'til the wheels fall off!
just my 2 cents i personally feel if cyanogen isnt handling the rom for the phone it never seems to get done the right way look at the vibrant i still think devs will make roms for it no disrespect to anyone..
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I STILL found time to pull apart rosie.apk and started modifying xml's because people are getting excited now that the mytouch is rooted and I wanted to contribute.
You are NOT too busy. I can assure you of that.
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I'm thinking of starting to mod this device, just not sure where to start looking for information. I've never messed with it much before, it's been years since I've done any programming and I've pretty much forgotten everything. But, I'm always willing to learn new things
Kmobs had a working CM6 besides camera and a couple of other features on his MT4G... it should all get sorted out and we will get CM6. Instead of complaining and resorting to another phone because it was out earlier and has CM6 already... Why not actually contribute by helping trying to work and mod the phone you picked and for that reason.
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Looks like I'll be sending this phone back tomorrow. Seems this phone is not gonna get to much love from the devs.
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Returning a phone because one dev hasn't done anything with it yet in the barely-two weeks its been out? Seems a little extreme, lol

Looking for a couple brave testers

So I just bought a Slide on eBay, but I wanna go ahead and get things started.
I can do most of the work I think right now before the phone (since it's Sense 3), but I'll need a few brave testers with ADB knowledge and who aren't afraid to flash things.
Somebody help this bro out, he does good work.
You should try this forum:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/mytouch_4g_slide?view=all
It seems like most of the people on here like our phones and want to root and rom them, while the people on the t-mobile forum want to complain and cry. I'm sure you'd have pretty good luck on there lowballing someone for their phone!
Got one on eBay a couple of minutes ago. See you guys on the other side . Thanks for the replies.
Sweet can't wait to see what you can do with this phone!
If you don't mind me asking, how much was it on eBay?
I currently have a MT3GS I bought from Craigslist awhile back - got a pretty good deal from someone who decided he'd rather have an iphone, it came with the original box and all the stuff.
Been debating on whether it was worth an update to a 4GS.
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Sweet can't wait to see what you can do with this phone!
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Check out my Sensation ROM (link is in my sig)
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If you don't mind me asking, how much was it on eBay?
I currently have a MT3GS I bought from Craigslist awhile back - got a pretty good deal from someone who decided he'd rather have an iphone, it came with the original box and all the stuff.
Been debating on whether it was worth an update to a 4GS.
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It was $340... it said it was refurbished so I jumped on it. That's just around the price range I was looking for, too (extremely hopeful price range).
$400 seems to be the area in which the used ones are selling for...
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Check out my Sensation ROM (link is in my sig)
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I did, and I LOVE it! Man if you ported that to our phone I would be eternally grateful, and your phone would have cost you a little less $$$ if you know what I mean
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I did, and I LOVE it! Man if you ported that to our phone I would be eternally grateful, and your phone would have cost you a little less $$$ if you know what I mean
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I updated the OP. If anyone is interested please post here.
I'm going to start porting some of the features today and need some testers .
Romanbb said:
I updated the OP. If anyone is interested please post here.
I'm going to start porting some of the features today and need some testers .
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You know I'm in!
I've been one of the ones to dive in headfirst around here so i'll help as I can.
This week, and next, are gonna be real tight on time for me. I still have a few threads around here I have to update...and just can't get more then a few minutes in front of a terminal at a time.
When I get the chance to update my threads, I can sit here and have the phone installing (or whatever) while I do.
Glad to see another dev jumping into the pool here with the MT4GS - it's a sick piece of hardware.
Your list has made it incredibly easy to list out all the apps (I usually have to go through them one by one and try and figure everything out, usually takes 1-2 hours per phone )
Anyways, I can't test it as I don't have the phone yet but Bloater should be setup for it. At least for the apps and stuff. I'll have to add WiFi calling later.
Test it out and let me know what works and what doesn't. I tried not to include anything I wasn't sure about or anything that could be potentially harmful to remove.
If it doesn't recognize something as installed or uninstalled it just means my MD5s mismatch what it was expecting, easy fix.
Install it as a normal APK
I can new a lab rat if needed as I still haven't committed to this as a dd
Sent from my HTC Doubleshot using xda premium
I'll be willing to test!
Are any of you guys familiar with IRC? This may be easier to do everything there instead of posting back and fourth.
We could try #mt4gs @ freenode
Other than that, I may have my statusbar mods ported today. Just need to fix the resource IDs up I think. I'll need to have someone test.
I'm using Paul's deodex as a base for now since I couldn't find an RUU. So if anyone is running that, you'll just have to flash two files over to test if this works or not .
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=mt4gs
Someone join so I can use you as a test dummy!

I to am sorry for being harsh

I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
Let me start this by saying i am still a N00B, saying that Initially i was also annoyed with all those questions people were asking.. i myself started a new thread trying to clear few basic questions.. but as the time went by realised that the senior community was more harsh than anything else.. the more we teach the more we learn thats what say in my part of the world.. but i believe all is well, all that is needed is that you guys get into serious ICS development once the OTA arrives.. and <3 you guys..
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I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
deborshi said:
I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Yeah, but on the other side of the coin, if you are on XDA that means you are looking to experiment, you want to try new things, you need a fast and functional ROM or that mod you like so much or simply want to root it and then there are few who are here just to learn.
But for all this you gotta have few attributes
1. Guts
2. Little knowledge
3. Able to go through few threads before starting anything
4. And last but most important, knowing where the search button is.
This still a n00b saying this, dont get me wrong. I am here to learn, i am getting into it slowly but surely. Thanks to the devs.
Ps: this post os taken better in lighter vein!!!
Speak only when it improves on your silence.
I think it is a huge deal to see a post like this. Kudos to you, Ikrasner! You have been much help to everyone, along with the rest of the devs. Thank you all for your time!
deborshi said:
I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Well it is really not patients that is the problem that we are all having at the moment. It is the fact that everyone now seems to think they are the ONLY one with a certain problem with x, and rather than posting in the thread that deals with x they make a new thread, and then when you ask why they did not search it is always "I searched, and none of the threads deal with MY exact issue".
The issue with this is that is shows a lack of respect for everyone in here, that might be working on an issue, and that person just bumped another thread that might have that or a similar issue in it, and now everyone is reading that new glowing orange thread on the board.
The next issue is that people have to trust us.
Next, it seems we have a new rash of noobs that don't want to listen and then still post a new thread when their issues is not solved in another thread and then keep bumping that thread if no one replies.
Again these are all thing that show alot of issues and lack of respect to your dev team, we are here to help, but the more you guys all help us, the more we can help you.
P.S. I had to post this same thread a few weeks back, because of all the frustrations as well.... see a pattern here.
I know what you mean, its like you cant even blink in this forum, without starting a witch hunt.
I just joined XDA not long ago and I too have noticed a lot of pointless threads. I admit I did post a stupid question before, but I found the answer myself and went back and changed my question. But I did not go and make a new thread about it. I think the issue is A. people are lazy in general, and B. There is so much to try and wrap your head around, and no one wants to brick their device. I only have 1 device and I would love to try experimenting with different ROMs and things, because I am constantly wanting a new phone. I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it. But I have that fear of bricking it and then I am screwed. So for now I will continue to search through different threads and try to learn as much as I possible can before I jump in and try flashing ROMs. I notice some people just try flashing ROMs without really any knowledge then post new threads with the issues that they have. If they would just take the time to read through threads prior to jumping in there would be less of this issue. I just want to Thank all the Devs here that put so much time into all the work they do here!! Definitely the best mobile dev community out there!!
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I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it.
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
I have no idea what section I'm in or what you're apologizing for, but I love you too man.
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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TMI, me thinks.
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TMI, me thinks.
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FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
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FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
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I know, it was amusing. But the fact that you're feeling the urge for clarification makes me second guess that was a "joke". (I'm kidding)
That's what we need more of here, people with a sense of humor. I applaud you for that, hopefully the lighthearted approach will carry through with the other "business class" folk.
I sit in the back of the bus, that one being driven straight to hell, if you know what I mean...
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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im not gonna lie me myself often sleep next to/on it but damn...
maybe if it was a sgs3

OnePlus 6 Development Rate

Hey guys,
Just curious as this is the first time I've been around for a new device release and I'm used to getting a device long after developers have had them for quite a while.
Not that I'm complaining - but is this the usual rate of development for a new device?
Really appreciate all the great work you guys do! If I can help with anything let me know
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Hey guys,
Just curious as this is the first time I've been around for a new device release and I'm used to getting a device long after developers have had them for quite a while.
Not that I'm complaining - but is this the usual rate of development for a new device?
Really appreciate all the great work you guys do! If I can help with anything let me know
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Was just mentioning this is Telegram. I am aware of 4 kernels and 1 ROM being developed (not all yet available). I think with A/B partitions it's taking a little longer for development to start as we don't have an official TWRP yet (and I mean this in comparison to OP5) but if you're looking for a device with good developers support, you won't go wrong with the OP6.
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it's barely been a full week since the first orders were delivered so come back in a month.
I would report your thread and have it locked before the lazy keyboard warrior nerds come around to argue with you. I tried to ask what stage of development we're in and of course it was immediately interpreted as demanding an exact timeline of when we'll have ROMs and crap. Had to report-to-lock my own thread because people were acting unbelievably childish. The funny thing is even the mod who responded to the report seemed to be sick of the users' crap on here.
I would say this isn't anything unusual given the challenges of developing for this specific device. Many phones go weeks or months before even getting root. OP is dev-friendly, of course, but the A/B partition issues and other things are slowing roll-out a bit.
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I would say this isn't anything unusual given the challenges of developing for this specific device. Many phones go weeks or months before even getting root. OP is dev-friendly, of course, but the A/B partition issues and other things are slowing roll-out a bit.
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Thanks being understanding
I'm definitely not demanding nor expecting - but am willing to help where I can.
Your post answers exactly all I wanted to know - just wanted the opinion of someone who has been around a few new device forums to see what is and isn't normal.
It looks to me (from your post) like development is moving along pretty nicely then considering how new the device is/new challenges involved.
Again really appreciate the non confrontational reply.
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Was just mentioning this is Telegram. I am aware of 4 kernels and 1 ROM being developed (not all yet available). I think with A/B partitions it's taking a little longer for development to start as we don't have an official TWRP yet (and I mean this in comparison to OP5) but if you're looking for a device with good developers support, you won't go wrong with the OP6.
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I missed your reply initially! Really informative as well thank you
What 4 kernels are those? I know of Chewie/CleanSlate and Franken kernel?
Also if you don't mind me asking what ROM do you know of?
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I would report your thread and have it locked before the lazy keyboard warrior nerds come around to argue with you. I tried to ask what stage of development we're in and of course it was immediately interpreted as demanding an exact timeline of when we'll have ROMs and crap. Had to report-to-lock my own thread because people were acting unbelievably childish. The funny thing is even the mod who responded to the report seemed to be sick of the users' crap on here.
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Interesting! I hope people can quite clearly see I'm not expecting nor am I entitled to anything.
Just trying to gauge something I have no experience of from other people who have more experience.
Last phone I had was a OnePlus One... I got it many months after release due to the whole invite only thing and development was already pretty insane by the time I got one in my hands
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Thanks being understanding
I'm definitely not demanding nor expecting - but am willing to help where I can.
Your post answers exactly all I wanted to know - just wanted the opinion of someone who has been around a few new device forums to see what is and isn't normal.
It looks to me (from your post) like development is moving along pretty nicely then considering how new the device is/new challenges involved.
Again really appreciate the non confrontational reply.
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People can be testy about these kinds of questions because they are sometimes asked in a much more disrespectful/entitled tone.
To be honest, I think development is moving along pretty well, and certainly faster than what I'm used to from HTC phones (which are a different dev situation).
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I missed your reply initially! Really informative as well thank you
What 4 kernels are those? I know of Chewie/CleanSlate and Franken kernel?
Also if you don't mind me asking what ROM do you know of?
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Those three plus Flar. I keep an eye on GitHub and can see that he has created a OP6 repo though it was empty last time I looked.
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