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Hi,
I have searched the forums without any luck in finding exaclty what I need so I thought I'd post a new thread...
I have a HTC Trinity (AKA P3600) and I use the calendar very muck. So far only for private entries because I have my meetings at work in Outlook in my PC and haven't really needed them in my phone so far. Now I got promoted and must be able to update my calendar from my phone since my colleagues need to know where I am and who I'm in a meeting with.
The problem is that I don't wanna put my private stuff on our company's server, even though I know I can set appointments as "private". I would really like to either use Outlook Mobile for separate calendars, or I need to find another calnder-appliction to install. And that needs to be one that's not just "a skin" for the information stored in Outlook Mobile (or is it called Pocket Outlook? I don't remeber atm). I would prefer to be able to sync both calendars some way if possible. And oh, I don't mind paying for software if it's good so pelase tell me of commercial applications as well.
Can anyone help me with suggestions on how to solve my problem?
Thanx so much in advance. Have a great day!
Markus
Hello,
I am a PocketPC user, and I want to completely reorganize the way I am using my private emails, contact & calendar !
I would like to manipulate my data (email, contact & calendar), on the PocketPC AND online on the Web.
Which solution email/contact/calendar solution do you recommend me ?
I have listed these solutions (do you know other possibilities ?):
- Google and Zoho PIM suite: The good, it is online and free. The bad is that there is no way to sync them with the PocketPC.
- Microsoft Exchange: The good, it is on the Pocket PC. The bad, it is costs money.
chris
I use Yahoo. Sync device with Outlook; Outlook and device always the same. Outlook syncs with Yahoo contacts, calendar, etc via Intellisync. So I have a nice backup of everything on Yahoo, can still access things on Yahoo mobile or Yahoo full web.
Outlook on Desktop.
pOutlook on Device.
Yahoo Intellisync to sync Yahoo and Outlook.
Sync Device to Outlook, Outlook to Yahoo.
However this takes mental energy to remember which will be the home to the 'correct' info. So if you edit things in Yahoo, on your phone and in Outlook without first syncing everythign, you can run into issues.
I recently moved to a Service Desk software for my business. It is a served application and I just go to the WWW address to get all the info. Interent dependent though...and web browsing is slow when under the gun...
I also know that if you use the Yahoo mobile plugin system that you pretty much just work from within that shell. Its good for some. I guess it is called Y! Go. I had it on my 8125 and it worked well, a bit slow on the 8125.
I didn't know about this Yahoo sync system. I will have a look at it.
If I understand your feedback, what you are missing is: the need to sync your contacts/calendar directly online from your PocketPC. That's right ?
I do agree with you, the best solution would be to be able to sync online all your applications, that ís the application on the PocketPC (POutlook) and the application on the PC (Outlook).
As far as I know, only Microsoft Exchange is offering this possibility. But it costs quite a lot..
Chris
Google Apps and mail2web
I really like googlemail, and actually use google apps for domains to manage a couple of domain names. I've set up Outlook using IMAP to connect to these accounts but do not schedule mail download. This allows me to easily send emails from my account.
I've then set up mail forwarding within googlemail to a free mail2web account, that is in effect Exchange. This is set up as a push account within Outlook(works really well). Within googlemail I have a rule setup to archive mails once they are forwarded, this gives me a clean inbox should I wish to bring up the IMAP connection to view archived mail.
Could anyone using MS Exchange, give a feedback about this solution ?
Nick, why don't you just use your MS Exchange account (mail2web) ? it seems to me that you don't need to have a gmail account.
Chris
With Mail2web I can only reply and send mails as [email protected]
If I want to send an email from my own domain I need to do it through my Google Apps for Domains setup.
If mail2web could handle personal domains it would be fine. Google do a really good job of this with regard to MX records and reverse dns lookups.
Hosted Exchange would be a nice solution: admitted it costs a few euros per month (6 here) but you get a mailbox which WinMo directly syncs with (without any dirty hacks, plugins and stuff) plus a quite nice webmail/calendaring/collaboration environment (Outlook Web Access).
According to your post, it seems that MS Exchange is actually the only "clean" (=acceptable) way to have the possibility to have your email/contact/calendar on your PocketPC and online.
So, I definitely need to have a look at the offers to see how much it is. Do you know a comparison table of the different companies offering Exchange hosting ?
Nick, i understand now why you still use Google. I do think you can use your own domain with Exchange thought. Maybe not with mail2web.com , but other competitors probably offer this.
How much do you pay for your hosted Exchange ?
spone1, I agree with your conclusion. Which Exchange hosting provider do you use ?
Chris
Mail2web is free!! You may as well sign-up just to see how Push/Active Sync works.
So 95% of the benefits of Exchange (active sync, Outlook Web access etc.) but just no domain hosting. I don't have that many mails that I need to reply to from my domain when I am out and about, so it's really not that big a deal for me to quickly switch accounts when I need to. I'm sure I could get hosted Exchange including a domain or two, but I'd expect it would be between £50 and £100 pounds a year, and wouldn't really give me that much benefit.
But the benefit of having push email is great. ActiveSync does seem to occassional have trouble connecting if my connection type changes through the day. Eg, I connect via WIFI at home, then in the car the phone will pick up 3G, thn by the time I'm at work I'm down to GPRS, at some locations in work I can pick up WIFI again and then for the return journey etc. It can be fixed be manually synchronising to get things running again, but that does kind of defeats the object of push email.
Another alternative is to run your own mail server. It doesn't have to be MS Exchange, there are other that are compatible. But this seems a little like too much hard work without much benefit.
Don't forget that you can use Google with any domain by using Google Apps.
They currently handle MX records for my Domain.
Yeah, Google apps is great, and would be perfect for me if it could handle push email. IMAP isn't the end of the World, just not as slick.
Google apps is my primary mail handler. In effect all mail2web is doing for me is adding push capability
Cloud winmo now
I have a setup that works great for me.
I use a beta (free) service mobipush for push gmail. http://www.mobipush.com/
I use remember the milk for tasks that can be a plugin in google calendar and sync wirelessly with your outlook mobile tasks.
https://www.rememberthemilk.com/
(there is a gadget to add RTM to your gmail screen and intergrated into google calendar.)
I use ogg sync for syncing contacts and calendar.
http://oggsync.com/
Something extra!!!
I also us Jott to add via voice tasks and calendar events to remember the milk and google calendar when I can't type. i.e. when driving.
http://jott.com
This system gives me the cloud experiance of a google phone with the power of a winmo device
I used 4smartphone.net hosted Exchange and before that I'd been using Intellisync for over-the-air sync with Lotus Domino. Intellisync solution was a good one as it provided rather comprehensive sync options. However, I'd been using it few years ago, so I don't really know whether this solution is still available (looks like Nokia had bought Intellisync).
Exchange solution is great for its native support, but lacks few features (like separate folders support and OTA sync for notes).
I think that hosted Exchange 2007 is the preferred option.
Nick-- said:
With Mail2web I can only reply and send mails as [email protected]
If I want to send an email from my own domain I need to do it through my Google Apps for Domains setup.
If mail2web could handle personal domains it would be fine. Google do a really good job of this with regard to MX records and reverse dns lookups.
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I have my personal domain stuza.com pointing to my mail2web.com account and I love it. Works superbly. I can edit calender/contacts and it changes automaticaly on the mail2web server. Also saves a bucketload of time should you decide to flash your phone - you simply give it your email address and it goes away and autoconfigures the exchange settings and then pulls all your contacts/schedule data down. All my mail comes into [email protected] and goes out from [email protected] .... frickin sweet.
I will never live again without an exchange solution.
edit: dont know if it makes a diference but i have a paid mail2web account
Has anybody tried funambol.com? It is an open source project that I recently found. I haven't tested it with the exception of email but it does have contacts and calendar components. I hope it works for you!
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1
windows live mail
windows live mail works just like exchange, syncing calendar, mail, contacts...etc
Push mail works easily and without any setup. Usually it comes with wm6 phones, but you can also install the cab found on the forum.
Xilicon said:
windows live mail works just like exchange, syncing calendar, mail, contacts...etc
Push mail works easily and without any setup. Usually it comes with wm6 phones, but you can also install the cab found on the forum.
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Okay my age is probably getting in the way, but don't you have to use Outlook to synch calendar? Has there been an upgrade to Windows Live Mail or something else I may be missing?
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1
gottago said:
Has anybody tried funambol.com? It is an open source project that I recently found. I haven't tested it with the exception of email but it does have contacts and calendar components. I hope it works for you!
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1
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Further on funambol.com and to the original poster's request. Funambol has it's own web site that will serve to pull/push email and contacts with GMail. I don't use the calendar on Gmail so I can not address that but Funambol provides you a myfunambol web page that will consolidate your email/contacts as well as any calendar/tasks/notes/briefcase on your PPC. So, in effect, you can go to your myfunambol page and see your email, contacts, calendar, etc. all in one place on the web as well as on your PPC. Funambol provides flexibility as to what it actually synchs so you remain in control. While you can schedule your synch times, it also has the option of synching on a 'push' basis. I will admit that this capability is not necessarily perfect at this point but it is clearly being worked on.
This is a great solution for me as I do not use Outlook (too cheap to buy) or Internet Explorer on my PC. I use Thunderbird/Lightning and Firefox. There is a Funambol plugin for Thunderbird that works well.
NOTE: I have no affiliation with Funambol other than as a user of this one product.
gottago
Sprint Touch w/WM 6.1
I've searched for this particular issue and basically haven't found a solution for the Pocket PC but I know one must be out there. Here's my problem:
I've got two Exchange Server accounts I need to sync on the same device (HTC Fuze, a.k.a. HTC-4600) as well as some POP3 email accounts. However, I specifically do not want to sync the calendar information from either Exchange account. I need a third party program, I'd imagine, to accomplish this.
I've seen where people have said it can't be done but I've been doing this for years on a Treo 650 and Treo 680 using ChatterMail+ application, which does just this. However, that's a Palm OS application and I've moved on to Windows Mobile 6.1. I figure there's got to be something out there similar to ChatterMail (which is only for the Palm OS). With one Exchange Account I've actually got access to the full Outlook integration on the desktop (although I don't want it) and with the other I'm limited to Outlook Web Access anyway.
Does anyone know of any software that can accomplish this on the WM6.1 platform? Any help is appreciated.
By the way, that's two exchange server email accounts (but just the "Inbox" from each - not the calendar, contacts, notes, etc.) on one AT&T Fuze (a.k.a. HTC Raphael 101) while still syncing the calendar, contacts, notes, (Everything but email) with my PC. Anyone got any ideas or am I ignoring some feature of the Fuze?
i believe all you need to do is go into server settings and deselect the calendar sync. also i think from WinMo 5 on we can sync to 2 and up to (i maybe wrong) 4 exchange servers.
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flipfone said:
i believe all you need to do is go into server settings and deselect the calendar sync. also i think from WinMo 5 on we can sync to 2 and up to (i maybe wrong) 4 exchange servers.
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Thanks for the reply, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. I didn't explain it very well in the original post but the two exchange servers only allow the OWA interface; they do not have IMAP4 or anything enabled. That program on the PalmOS, Chattermail++ with the Exchange plug-in, allowed those two accounts to sync the email somehow despite the limitations imposed by those exchange servers.
Also, I have to keep calendar checked because I want it to sync with my desktop Outlook calendar (I run my work OS in a virtual machine, so one of my Exchange Server accounts is in Outlook on a VM, that way I keep my personal and work appointments separate). That Chattermail++ did all this, so I'm really looking for a replacement for that program. I've settled on Flexmail4, and the only drawback to that is there's no exchange plug-in to get me into the OWA like on the PalmOS. But, that may have been a one-of-a-kind thing.
ok you can disable calendar in one server and not the other the settings are separate or all servers. but i know nothing about owa settings and syncro. Sorry i cant help ya except maybe you may wish to run a palm emulator so that you can run chattermail? Just a thought, i personally wouldnt want to run that way.Either way please post your findings im interested.
I've been playing around with the two browsers (Opera and IE) included to access OWA. The Opera browser will remember my login credentials for me, which is very handy, but it has a very strange glitch when loading the OWA pages; most of the time it will chop off the top part of the page if you are at all zoomed in (zooming in is mandatory if you want to actually read your email using Opera). The top of the OWA pages, unfortunately, is where "Reply, Reply All, Forward, Delete, etc." commands are located. You're unable to scroll up to them or zoom out to see them, which pretty much makes OWA unusable in Opera. Using IE to access OWA is better since the entire page is accessible. However, the left-hand frame with the "Inbox, Folders, Options, Logoff, etc." menu takes up over half of the screen even on landscape mode. So you've got to click and drag to expand the actual message area. Also, IE does not remember my login settings for OWA which is a pain.
So that's the state of my findings at present. The PPC program "Chronobis" (http://www.chronobis.com/) has got the right idea on the functionality I'm looking for, except it can sync everything but email! That's the kind of functionality (interaction with OWA) that I need for the exchange server email accounts.
First - thanks to everyone at xda for all the tips and help - what a great site!
Now don't laugh when I say that I have a T-Mobile (Danger) Sidekick. I have been happy with it but I want to replace my SK and my Pocket PC with one device instead of two.
With my Sidekick, I got a separate [email protected] account. My email came through without me checking it and I could also receive and send from some other accounts (like my personal earthlink account) The email came through without me having to check for it. (I don't know of it was push or pull but it works quite well)
I am seriously considering getting a Fuze but have some questions about email:
1 - Does AT&T give you a separate email address?
2 - I have read that I can get my personal earthlink as well as gmail and yahoo mail on the Fuze but do I need to have AT&T's "express mail" to get it?
Thanks so much.
To my knowledge, at&t doesnt give you an email address. You could use gmail with the gmail app or through opera, but im not sure if theres an app that would work with the touchflo 3d tab. If you have a live account you can use windows live mail and that does work with the tf3D tab. Im not sure about earthlink or gmail though. Hope that helps.
att gives you an email address, but it's *your phone number*@att.mywireless.com or something like that.
you can also get a media net email address.
with the fuze, my yahoo mail is pushed to my phone at the sametime it appears in my web browser (if i am online at the time)
i also have active synch synch up to my corporate exchange server email using https
Thanks for the replies.
I don't have an AT&T account (yet) and I do not use Outlook for email so I am unfamiliar with both.
I still don't understand: what exactly does AT&T's "express mail" do? Will I need it in order to get my earthlink mail on a Fuze? I know I can check mail through the web browser but will the WM email client receive my earthlink email automatically or do I have to manually check for it?
I'm looking for a free pushmail service for my HD2. Somebody can help me? I have tried some but they can not work correctly with WM 6.5.
Gmail works fine for me. Besides the actual GM account, I also duplicate some other GM accounts to it & it checks / collects mail from still further other non GM accounts.
ive also been looking for one for ages. My symbian friends are quite quick to put down my htc hd 2 because it doesnt have free pushmail service. XDA-developers have solved 99.9% of my probs. I hope it goes up by 0.1%
Thanks in advance. I love this website!
RalphS said:
Gmail works fine for me. Besides the actual GM account, I also duplicate some other GM accounts to it & it checks / collects mail from still further other non GM accounts.
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I see that you are on Tmobile UK. Do you use the standard web'n'walk for this push service?
I've never got proper push from Google to work with Gmail.
I use Gmail to forward to my Hotmail account, which is then picked up on Windows Live.
Works great!
just use google sync to push gmail
Gmail works great on my HD2, you just have to correctly set the account in Active Sync :
Server : m.google.fr
Mail : [email protected]
Pass: Your password (And check the box to store it)
Domain : Left blank
Then you can choose to synchronize Contacts, Calendar and mail but be sure not to check task (Otherwise you will get an error while syncing).
Then in Active Sync you have to set when the phone will check for new items, you have to say "when new items arrive" and check the box to allow while on Edge and 3G.
Normally every thing should work great.
I get mail quite quickly and my calendar and contacts are always up to date on the phone, the computer and the web!
the prob is i dont use gmail. i use hotmail and my work email is being hosted by mail2world.net so i need those to work. Im sure there is a free pushmail server for winmo i just havent found it yet.
Try www.momail.com . It works great for me
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I see that you are on Tmobile UK. Do you use the standard web'n'walk for this push service?
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I am on T-mobile UK, I do have standard WnW.
Push Gmail works fine on my HD2 both T-mobile 1.43 & HTC 1.66 (as it did on my old TytnII).
I simply followed these instructions to access my email
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
Actually my ISP is Sky who email service uses re branded Google mail. I have my own domains for email. Because they insist on tagging my outgoing mail address/domain with their moniker, hardly professional, I use a 3rd party SMTP server (from the Skyusermail forum) for outgoing mail. All set up from within the HD2 messaging utility & transparent in use with no additional input.
I only sync my mail to Google. For privacy, Contacts, Calendar, Favourites & OneNote I sync to my Vista32 computer via USB (upgrading to Bluetooth in a couple of days). I found, when INITIALLY setting up the PHONE syncs, I have to add them ONE TYPE AT A TIME in sequential syncs, or it fails After the initial set up, it behaves correctly syncing all automatically together.
As far as what that Pushed Gmail account reports, I went into its web control panel and got it to collect incoming mail from MANY other accounts. I now have a PUSH one stop shop, when mobile, for about a dozen entirely separate email accounts!
I no longer need an office to run my business affairs. I can run everything from my mobile. Huge overhead saving and much more leisure time. My business now interrupts my leisure pursuits instead of vice versa.... Worthwhile trade off for me.
I also have a few other email accounts being checked every few hours. Also my HD2 is hooked up to Windows live / Hotmail. (Need to reinstall Skype.)
MadBastard said:
Try www.momail.com . It works great for me
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momail doesn't work in my country
Have you ever tried mail2web.com? It works fine and it's quite fast.
try SEVEN it is great....though i notic it has some bug with the cooked ROM but not with the orginal ones