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eSkyguide v WM6.1 PDA (Fuze)

Hi,
I upgraded from the “Tilt” to the “Fuze” a couple of months ago. The changes are significant and I’m still learning the new device. I rely heavily on third-party software applications. Getting all of these to operate on the Fuze was a big job but persistence has paid-off. I’m enjoying the new device and I’ve learned a great deal.
One of the issues I battled for a significant amount of time was the incompatibility of several of my third-party applications with the Opera Browser. I have been successful in selecting the IE browser as the default browser on the Fuze. This solved the compatibility issues with third-party programs and I can now utilize all of them………….except one.
I have been using the eSkyguide timetable program for a number of years on two different WM devices (WM2003, and WM6.0 “Tilt”). I travel constantly. This program has been a huge benefit to me over the years and I have grown to rely on it.
I have not been able to get the eSkyguide operational on the Fuze. My specific symptoms with the program are: I am able to open the program. I can see that it was updated 28 February 2009. When I attempt to pull up a schedule, I enter the desired info and click on the red “Search” button. When I do, a thin line is drawn around the bottom of the page which includes the four options buttons. Nothing else happens, and none of the other functions work.
Q: Have any WM6.1 users been able to use eSkyguide? I would appreciate hearing from any WM6.1 users (especially “Fuze” users) who could share any information on this issue. I am wondering if perhaps there is a compatibility issue between eSkyguide and WM6.1. Any information at all would be appreciated. I have been attempting to get help from the developer for over a month. To date they have not provided any real help.
Q: Is there any way to get the “Internet” function on the TouchFLO 3D system to open IE instead of Opera?
Q: Do any of the cooked ROM’s use the IE browser as opposed to Opera? Because of my dependence (well, OK – addiction) to certain third-party software applications, the Opera Browser is not working for me. It wouldn’t bother me to lose it completely, but I would like to be able to access the internet from the TouchFLO 3D system.
Q: I became dependent on the “Task” functionality in previous WM devices. I have made peace with TouchFLO 3D and now very much like the system – it’s a benefit to be able to select all of the different functions so quickly. I miss having the “Tasks” function on the today screen. Are there any custom today screens available that might include this function that are compatible with TouchFLO 3D? This appears to be a simple “real estate” issue. I would gladly give up the huge clock on the present today screen for items more useful. I’ve got a watch.
In closing, I’d like to say thank you to the many people on this forum that have been so helpful. This is a great source of information. To those who make it possible and those who share such useful information – I sincerely thank you.
Thanks,
Dave

Compatible P2P applications

Hello.
I've been searching the interweb for file sharing clients that are compatible with the X7510 (in my case the O2 XDA Flint). Below are my brief reviews of each that I've tried.
Pocket G2 Pro: This is one of those fantastic little apps that was created and then abandoned, despite pleas from the PPC community, some years ago. This was basically a gnutella client similar to bearshare, frostwire, limewire etc. It worked well for small files (under 17mb I recall) and had a habbit of closing itself after prolonged periods of use. Unfortunately this app won't even start up on my X7510, and the apps domain (pocketG2.com) is now up for sale, so I guess there isn't a new version coming anytime soon.
WM Torrent: This is a torrent client similar to bit-torrent, u-torrent, vuse etc. It loads ok and the connection seems good but it only handles torrents, so it's not ideal for small files such as mp3s. I have unlimited data on my contract and started downloading a 50mb mpg file which had plenty of seeders (people sharing the file) on a GPRS connection. After several hours it had only downloaded 3% so I gave up. I will try this app again in a 3G area (if I can find one!) and see if it performs any better.
Mopiphant: This is another gnutella client that is popular with PPC users. I have tried several versions but none will open after installing them.
There seems to be room in the market for a gnutella client that is stable on this device. And lets face it, if any device could make use of file sharing on the go it's the X7510 with its huge memory, huge screen and meaty sterio speakers.
Does anyone know of a working P2P app for the X7510?
Phil.

Why?
this would destroy any data allowance you had with your providor. Its blatently against any TOS they have.
Use your desktop ?
O2 TOS state :
Data Charges
* For applicable tariffs with data capability: Unless a data or BlackBerry Bolt On is taken, your tariff will include O2 Web Daily under which data will be charged at £2.94 per MB up to a maximum of £0.98 per day (00:00am to 23:59pm). Once you have reached your maximum daily charge of £0.98, O2 Web Daily allows you unlimited use of Telefónica O2 UK Limited's Edge/GPRS/ 3G networks (as applicable to your handset), for personal internet use via your mobile phone. All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes. You may not use your SIM Card:
o in, or connected to, any other device including modems;
o to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable Voice over Internet (Voip), P2P or file sharing; or
o in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other O2 customers.
If O2 reasonably suspects you are not acting in accordance with this policy O2 reserves the right to impose further charges, impose network protection controls which may reduce your speed of transmission or disconnect your tariff at any time, having attempted to contact you first.
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http://www.o2.co.uk/termsandconditions/tariffsandboltons
I quoted the wrong part, on that above link under "Data Bolt On Terms" it says the same.

Thanks for your feedback Embassy.
Lets assume that I'm a fully aware adult and therefore resposible for the mobile data contract I agreed to, and its usage. With this in mind - do you know of any working P2P apps?
BTW, this device is also WiFi equipped, so I could use a hot spot to do my downloading

None that I know of.
How about RDP into your desktop while mobile and download via P2P that way.
Install XAMPP on your desktop and you could host the downloaded file using FTP or HTTP and download from the device.
Could be wrong but pretty sure all those connetions would lag it out really bad, if you have peer gaurdian installed or run a netstat for example see how many connections are active.

I'm pretty certain I didn't understand most of that...
Are you saying I could use remote desktop to download the P2P files on my PC at home, and then use some kind of file-server (XAMPP) to copy the file to my PPC?

Mopiphant is emule network client, your right only bt works on ppc, we need to find some java apps or other code like python....
u got opennap too but i cant add opennap servers http://www.zdziarski.com/projects/zamar/

Thanks wolframio74, I'll take a look at that and see if I can get it working.

GNSS Internet Radio and Built in GPS

Hello,
I am new to the forum and also the owner of an HTC Fuze. I have been playing around recently with the GPS on the phone and got me thinking. I live in NY and we have a CORS network of gps base stations that are fed by the use of ntrip.
I was wondering if their was any way to use the gps signal on my phone and the connection to this CORS network to give me sub inch accuracy on my phone...then not sure what I would do with it then. But I do live on a farm and I would like to see some type of precision agricultural use.
I guess I need a way to have the GPS on the phone talk with the GNSS internet radio and then give me spot on guidance and such.
Please let me know your thoughts or if I need to explain better.
Thanks,
Clayton

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bump. Any ideas? Anyone

Great idea cwrisrey !
That will save the cost of a geodetic device, which is many times the cost of a Fuze. Further, it will lead the accuracy of the buildin GPS into millimum class.
Not dig into this further, would you go further to tell these:
Is that CORS data encrypted?
Is that accessible through public internet or VPN?
Is there copy right or intellectuall property right issue involved? (I don't think so, but better make it clear first)
Once again, great idea. Please do remember to update this thread once you got any progress. Thanks.

More info
Hello wg5566,
This site would probably answer alot of your questions clearer than I could:
http://www6.nysdot.gov/spiderweb/frmIndex.aspx
* Is that CORS data encrypted?
-I don't believe so, I think that it is just a form of compression, to distribute across the internet.
* Is that accessible through public internet or VPN?
Yes, the NYS CORS anyway. It accessible from the public internet (although they require you to register with them) But I believe there are other free streams. I also believe it was modeled after being able to be sent threw GPRS.
* Is there copy right or intellectuall property right issue involved? (I don't think so, but better make it clear first)
-I believe the ntrip is based on a GNU, I think the source code is available. http://igs.bkg.bund.de/index_ntrip_down.htm
Windows CE version:
http://www.ilmb.gov.bc.ca/crgb/gsr/downloads/installGNSS.CAB
Please, let me know your thoughts...
Thanks,
Clayton

My fast thoughts:
First make sure there is no satisfied freeware currently available for WM.
If so please ask a moderator to move this to the development & hackings section. And Add tyis sentence on the title: Call for developers for revolutionary GPS app!
I'm sure somebody here can develop this. You know the geodetic device was invented many years ago with very weak profiles comparing to current WM devices. The hardware on our phone should be capable to deal with these calculations, and the WM Pro platform should be capable to support such an app. Anyway it should not be a biggy for many masters here. But it is a biggy for gps users with high accuracy demand for any reason.
Edit: Did you try install that wince cab on your phone? I think some of WINCE apps can just run on WM. Please backup your data first.
Edit2: I tried to install it on my device, at first it did not show up in start menu, then I found the cab just put files and shortcut in the folder names in French. But there is no registry involved in the cab. Only three files. And then program UI itself is in English. Just run the executable from the folder will go right out of the box. So please try it. I did not try to connect & loggin yet, due to not registered account.
Edit3: Looks like the cab is only access the data from internet, convert the data format and export the data, but we still need a geodetic/gps software to process/use the data.
Disclaimer: I attatched these three files for the only purppose of exchanging software developement infomation. Anybody if download it please do not use it for any purppose other than this. Thanx.

Some thoughts on the subject
Hi All,
The idea of using NTRIP to make a Windows Mobile GPS device sub-meter accurate crossed my mind. After some research I found this thread.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any software capable of doing this. My idea is that it should be possible to accomplish this goal, using a combination of existing tools (which would be really cool!).
As wg5566 notes, there is a (WM) tool called GNSS Internet Radio, which is capable of downloading NTRIP corrections. It turns out this software works, but does have some flaws. Someone wrote another open source tool which is better (?), but unfortunately it isn't built for Windows Mobile (see: http://lefebure.com/software/).
More searching revealed a (dead?) project on codeplex: SharpGPS. It's an unfinished demo. It does however seem to be designed to do exactly what we're suggesting in this thread.
My idea: Completing the WM version of SharpGPS with parts of GNSS Internet radio / lefebure NTRIP client should result in a tool that's capable of upgrading a WM devices' gps signal to sub-meter accuracy through RTK/DGPS corrections over NTRIP.
Any ideas / suggestions about this?

It's already been done for the commercial market
Land surveyors, construction companies, and farmers use RTK GPS and RTK GNSS correction services on a regular basis. Some are free and some are paid subscription. They can be either NTRIP protocol with casters or individual TCP or UDP connections. Examples of software available are Carlson SurvCE and MicroSurvey. Read Carlson's support site for how they deal with the data flow using such networks on SurvCE (Windows Mobile and CE).
I have worked in land surveying using such equipment, and it generally requires dual frequency receivers, RTK corrections, and high quality antennas to achieve 1-2cm 95% CI horizontal precision. The current GPS chips in cell phones are only single frequency and so the best you could expect under ideal conditions is 2'-3' precision using some form of differential correction like WAAS or beacon or DGPS via NTRIP. Under average conditions, the precision will likely be in the 10-20' range. The dual frequency receivers take care of the large errors caused by radio waves traveling through the ionosphere.
Due to the limitations of batteries, antennas, and space for more chips in cellphones, the future of location accuracy will likely include some combination of GPS/GLONASS and cellular radio signal frequency timing calculations from cell towers. True Position, with its U-TDOA technology, is one example of measuring the time differences of cell phone radio waves using cell towers with known coordinates. Rumors (from surveying journals) have it that there are current patents in place that can allow for sub foot precision using such methods when sufficient cell towers are present for multilateration.

Has anyone found success on this topic? WM or Android...

Would be very interested, since there is a free NTRIP feed available in Switzerland... anyone?

*bump* it up

Been there still trying. Problem is no carrier phase off internal gps.

Grimli said:
Hi All,
The idea of using NTRIP to make a Windows Mobile GPS device sub-meter accurate crossed my mind. After some research I found this thread.
As wg5566 notes, there is a (WM) tool called GNSS Internet Radio, which is capable of downloading NTRIP corrections. It turns out this software works, but does have some flaws. Someone wrote another open source tool which is better (?), but unfortunately it isn't built for Windows Mobile (see: /lefebure.com/software/).
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Lance lefebure is a really cool guy I'm sure he wouldn't have any problem building a wm version but it is going to takea lot more than that to get rtk to a cell phone.

Very good ,thanks.

Ed hardy bikini said:
Very good ,thanks.
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If you are confused just ask questions and I will do my best to answer them. I am in the ag industry and deal with RTK networks and different ways of connecting them and tons of different gps units on a daily basis.

Look at this:
http://stakemill.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/ashtech-mobile-mapper-100-supports-esri-arcpad-10-0/
and this:
http://www.ashtech.com/-2359.kjsp?RH=1272644205746&RF=1270806507068
Is that still a phone !?

wg5566 said:
Look at this:
Is that still a phone !?
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Nope PDA with support for external GPS with a builtin reciever that even sees glonass satellites (russian constelation). That was made specifically to do RTK mapping. It does have a GSM radio for data to connect to the cors.

Phone positioning using CORS
To perform a CORS (Network Reference correction we need a GGA stream from the GPS in your device. This allows us to remove the anomalies and provde the correction stream. As phones use a sirf II chip or similar they do not have input capability to output the NMEA stream to achieve this.

This one works great! it will connect to an Rtk receiver and get the nmea string from it or will use the internal GPS to be able to register on the CORS network. It will then stream the corrections over Bluetooth to a receiver or even a repeater radio. It won't however correct the internal GPS. http://antrip.dyndns.biz/Home/DownloadTrial

[APP]Pixie Network Monitor (Wireshark/Kismet for Android)

So... I'm rather new here and I'm not 100% sure that this is the correct forum to post this in (since I know it says "xda developed apps/games only"). However, I have seen commercial Android apps discussed here before... so... *shrug*.
Let me first say that I am not the developer... I just think this app should get some attention.
Pixie Network Monitor by 9bitlabs (would post a link but my account is restricted. ;-) )
It is a network monitoring app similar to Wireshark, but for Android. It is $4.99 on the Android market, it requires root, and it does not work on all phones (since not all phones can have their wifi put into promiscuous mode). There is a companion app called "Pixie Probe" available on the market for free. Pixie Probe will determine whether or not your phone is compatible with Pixie.
I have tested it out on my Evo (running CM6.1 RC1) and it seems to work amazingly well.
Pixie does not contain all of the features of Wireshark/Kismet. This is from the Pixie FAQ:
Q: What's the difference between Pixie and a desktop tool like Kismet?
A: The biggest difference between the tools lies in how they interface with the network. Kismet interacts directly with the wireless adapter and places it in monitor mode, allowing it to hear any packet over the wifi, even if it is not associated with a network. This can be problematic with some hardware, but many of the newer wifi chipsets work great with Kismet.
Pixie, on the other hand, is constrained by Android. Rather than expose the wifi adapter as an 802.11b device, Android actually hides all of that functionality: the wifi connection actually appears to system processes as a plain old Ethernet device. This means that we don't get monitor mode and we also don't get to see wifi-specific data, such as beacons and associate/disassociate packets.
On the plus side, Pixie runs in your pocket and that's harder to do with Kismet, unless you have very large pockets. Pixie is also significantly easier to set up for folks without Linux experience.
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The Pixie website gives very detailed information about the app, so I suggest you go there if you want more info.
In any case, I hope other people find it useful.

[Q] Office Mobile fully functional?

Hi guys,
I've searched this forum and haven't found an answer to my question, so I'm gonna post it here. (Hopefully I did the search right and didn't commit the felony of a double post. )
I'm planning on buying a new phone, mainly because my old HTC Charmer (WM 6.1) doesn't support SDHC cards and the maximum of 4GB of the cards I can use with it is just not enough any more.
So far, I've read quite some disappointing details about Windows Phone 7:
- No more "free" apps (by which I mean apps programmed by someone and offered somewhere, now it's the same sh** as with an iPhone or an Android phone)
- No direct USB-sync, which means you have to send your private information to the cloud in order to sync
- No "real" support for SD-Cards (and getting more storage space is the whole da** point here, otherwise I'm quite happy with my Charmer)
So, basically I thought about getting a second hand HTC Touch Pro II running WM 6.5 AND supporting NORMAL SDHC cards (meaning ALL cards which comply with the standard, not just the ones "certified by Microsoft").
But there might be one killer feature which could make me, well, not really forget, but maybe turn a blind eye to WP7's SHAMEFUL flaws: The new Microsoft Office Mobile. Often, I have some Excel spreadsheets which I need for work at different places. This is the only reason I have to take a laptop computer with me, apart from that my phone would be fine.
Office Mobile in WM 6.1 (or 6.5) couldn't display / make use of all the features the Desktop-Version offered (like extremely complicated formulae or spreadsheets and of course macros), and, moreover, after having worked on and saved an Office document on a phone, the features would even have been removed from the file in the conversion process, so the file was useless on the desktop as well.
Thus, I'm asking the following questions (which surprisingly haven't been answered on the net so far, or am I just too stupid to google it right?):
- Is the Office in WM 7 fully functional, meaning you can work on Excel sheets with the most complicated formulae and macros, or, asked more simple, can you do everything you can do with the Desktop version on your phone as well?
- If it doesn't offer everything the desktop versions offers, does it at least keep everything that was there in the original file after you change and save it on your phone? I mean, even if I can't use macros on the Windows Phone, it might still be helpful to open an .xls file on the phone, make a few changes (which don't require macros), save the file on the phone and after putting it back on a desktop computer having the file "unharmed" (meaning except for the small change I made on the phone everything else is as it was)?
Hopefully, I made my point clear enough, if not, I'm happy to answer questions on what it is exactly that I want to know. I think many users here already having a Windows phone will have tried working on Office documents on their phones and I hope those will share their experiences with me.
Many thanks for reading my post and even more thanks for answering.
Peter

Firstly,in terms of the functionalities of the excel,I don't think WP7 is suitable for you.
Furthermore,personally I prefer USB drag and drop the documents to my device,maybe you can call me old school.I just find the office useless for me since I don't have sharepoint,I don't want create a dropbox account just to upload my file to cloud and download it to my device again and I don't have a data plan.Therefore,until now, I still didn't use the office app once.
In your situation,I think you need an android phone to handle your job this moment,you can just purchase quick office,docs to go,depends on your personal preference.In addition,the only office app available is just microsoft office,no other choices.furthermore,as you said,you want transfer it back to your desktop unharm,therefore it is good to have drag and drop file transfer function rather than rely on dropbox,upload to the cloud and download on your desktop again.
On the other hand,there is no clear information about the mango updates which add more features to the office.So,I'll would suggest you to go with Android or iOS for this moment.

Thank you for the answer.

No more "free" apps (by which I mean apps programmed by someone and offered somewhere, now it's the same sh** as with an iPhone or an Android phone)
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Free, in cost, there are plenty. Free as in not first checked by MS, kinda but no. You can developer unlock your device and sideload apps. However, that being said, MS are pretty good, they're only blocking apps which don't meet quality control standards (which I think is a good thing) or, somewhat contentiously, are "adult". They're not playing the same game as Apple.
I'm confused by you saying Android though. You can easily download and install programs (apk) on your device from any source (you just have to choose that option in the settings).
Office in Mango is improving - specifically:
1. Better support for formulae
2. Skydrive sync
So, yes, formulae can be created and manipulated in Excel, though I wouldn't say it's a replacement for the real Excel. It certainly can't run macros.
Skydrive is still "in the cloud" however, you're automatically registered to the free account by the virtue of having a live id. I still believe we should have USB file transfer but at least this is better than nothing.
Casey