GDGPS3.5'' - General Questions and Answers

I have here a GolD GPS, model GDGPS3.5''.
I'm sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong are or the wrong forum even, but I don't know where else to look.
I'm trying to install a new Cardinale version, that is, the 3.0 Black. The device has, up until now, used the original SD card with an older IGo version. As mentioned, I'd like to update the maps and the software used to Cardinale, and since the original card is too small to do anything useful with it, I've bought a new one.
In order to install the new cardinale, I need to simply copy it to the card, load it with the device along with the maps and languages I need, and run it from the device, yes?
My problem is as follows - once I turn the device on, it gets stuck on the company splash screen. No errors, no Windows, no messages, just a splash screen and nothing loads. In order to run it, I would need it to load its system so I can navigate to the exe file, but I get nothing but a splash screen?
Could it be that the device is locked in such a way not to recognize anything beyond its original software? If so, how would I go about unlocking it? The device has Win CE. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
P.S. doing some more checking, I found that it uses Nav N Go Igo from 2006, if this info is of any use.

I have now downloaded a new version of Nav N Go Igo and attempted to copy it to the new card. The device still refused to even begin loading.
I then backed up all the contents of the old SD, copied them exactly as they were to the new SD, and then tried loading, hoping to be able to still load the old software, but just add new maps to the now bigger SD.
It finally loaded it, but upon getting past the splash screen it sad "HardwareIDerror" and prompted me to shut down the device, not letting me do anything else.
It seems the device in locked to one and only one card, the original 256MB card that came with it, and refuses to accept others even if they have the identical content. Is there any way to unlock it and make it accept other cards without throwing the Hardware ID error?
P.S. another thing that might be of importance : whether the device works or not, I'm not presented with the WinCE interface. I have no start menu, no icons to click. All I get when the device is turned on properly, is the simple Nav N Go application, ready to go, without letting me choose anything else. I can't shut down the app alone and get back to WinCE, because I never was given access to WinCE.

about gdgps3.5"
devolucija said:
I have now downloaded a new version of Nav N Go Igo and attempted to copy it to the new card. The device still refused to even begin loading.
I then backed up all the contents of the old SD, copied them exactly as they were to the new SD, and then tried loading, hoping to be able to still load the old software, but just add new maps to the now bigger SD.
It finally loaded it, but upon getting past the splash screen it sad "HardwareIDerror" and prompted me to shut down the device, not letting me do anything else.
It seems the device in locked to one and only one card, the original 256MB card that came with it, and refuses to accept others even if they have the identical content. Is there any way to unlock it and make it accept other cards without throwing the Hardware ID error?
P.S. another thing that might be of importance : whether the device works or not, I'm not presented with the WinCE interface. I have no start menu, no icons to click. All I get when the device is turned on properly, is the simple Nav N Go application, ready to go, without letting me choose anything else. I can't shut down the app alone and get back to WinCE, because I never was given access to WinCE.
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Hi! About that gps you got problems with, i have one now same model and with the same problem. have you got any solution fot it? did you managed to get rid of that splash screen and enter in the WinCE? i am very curious .
I was doing a trick. when shutting down the igo program it gave me a screen and i was holding the screen tapped and creating a new folder. open the new folder and from there through the explore bar get into WinCE filesystem. After that remove the SDcard with iGO6 and put in the iGO8 map updated and open it manually from the system.
If you know any solution to get rid of this entire ritual please i would be gratefull if you would let me know
Respect!

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Homescreen

HI. I´d love to have the s730 HTC home screen on my Vox. Does anybody know where could I get it?
Thx
Ditto that! I also have a 710 and would like the 730 homescreen/theme
Same here
We have tried to use the extracted files posted here earlier but it seems there is bunch of stuff missing...
Any new extraction or guidance would be helpful as well
The file posted here can be extracted : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1732690&postcount=4
I've been able to use HTC homescreen on my vox but I can't get some things to work like the favorite people application and the weather part... In fact only the clock works
Unfortunately I don't have time to look further into it, but it shouldn't be too difficult for the geniuses out there
wont spb mobile shell give a similar home screen?
Isn't it only for pocket pcs ?
It´s done.
HTC Home Screen for HTC Vox :
Found in this Forum under HTC Tornado. Works fine on my VOX. Be sure to install to the device!!! when you install it to SD Card Phone crashes at boot.
Thank you very much Gregory for this great theme.
Truplaya
Edit: Seems the phone sometimes crashes when you insert the sd card. without sd card it boots fine... Maybe someone knows why and can fix this error...
Before downloading you have to notice that this cab can cause a crash and you have to hard reset the phone.
Gah. A hard reset is now needed all because of that cab above this post.
Total crash, stuck in reboot cycle.
A warning to others.
(installed to device, not storage card of course)
Update: Seems that the cab did something to the phone's MicroSD support. Or something. I can boot the phone without having the storage card inserted. Any idea what may have been changed? I'm guessing something in the registry, but not sure really.
Same problem to me schlinkey. But i can boot without sd card and insert it when booted. I added a notice above about the problem. Sorry that you had to hardreset your phone.
Did the Plugin worked for you when you boot without sd card?
I can take some screens of my phone (Vox) with HTC Plugin tommorow if wanted.
Took some pictures this morning.
It's alright, a hardreset now and then keeps the phone running smoothly
When I managed to boot the phone (without having the SD inserted) I uninstalled the plugin. The error remained however, so ended up with a hardreset anyway
All working again now!
Got it installed on my Vox now, currently uninstalling look alike themes and stuff that I no longer use to free up space on my phone now. Thanks for getting the New HTC Theme to work on the Vox. Just ned to get weather plugin working now. I've also got an annoying problem where my Vox with my T-Mobile Sim in says that I am Roming and the carrier plugin says thatI am connected to T-Mobile UK. I'm in the UK and using a T-Mobile UK Sim.
Roland
No problem with the Home screen, but I have had the reboot problem with the SD card for ages.
I did manage to get it to boot with the SD card in by doing various things.
When I first had the problem switching to flight mode before a reboot fixed the problem. The after installing some software it would only reboot with the SD card in if I first ran SK tools to clear duplicates in the notification list and selected a home screen which did not access the SD card (including the MRU list) such as "Windows Simple".
When I installed the Office 6.1 update the problem appeard to go away.
Then I installed Facade and so far have not managed to get it to boot with the SD card inserted.
I guess I could uninstall Facade - but I want to use it.
A Hard Reset is too drastic and I don't want to try that - easier to remove the SD card than to spend all day re-installing everything on my phone - no gurantee it will work anyway.
I suspect its a problem with the SD card driver as I have read that later ROM versions fixed the problem.
wizgnome said:
easier to remove the SD card than to spend all day re-installing everything on my phone - no gurantee it will work anyway.
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Sounds like you need Sprite Backup 6
Gunde said:
Sounds like you need Sprite Backup 6
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I thought about that - not tried it - I assume it would back up all the registry settings along with the files.
But if I do a restore, I assume it would be back as it was before the hard reset, including the cause of any problem.
Although I suppose it might allow for some experimentation, with the ability to put things back to how they were before any changes were made.
Can someone who has used it give some comments on how useful sprite would be in these circumstances.
Hi all! Has anyone experienced the "My People" application stopping working after a while? After I installed it, it worked shortly, but now when I try to open it, the list flashes quickly, then disappears. This is from both the Home screen, and through the Start Menu. This has happened both times I've installed it. Any ideas?
Thanks!
ssorrell
Just now installed on my S620 Excalibur and seems to work ok.
John
And my home screen ;D
http://www.e650.zafriko.pl/kat/tuning__d
and how quick is you home screen with that smart toolkit and 3d menu ? bacause i got it before and it`s really slow !! I love this HTC 730 homeS .
those are all files wichout 3D menu and work good lake wihout "tuning"
but keylock need lock from pres key profiles/off display and select keylock if u use difrend keys to keylock or methods 3D menu god/off and need run again its bug affter instal smatoolkid ;/
enjoin ;D
*now i use smartoolkit RC.0.0.0.9 and settings:
in general first are all disable wihout run on startup and show's txt... and second row its disable then smartoolkit wen pres home button show and hide
Ps. sorry for my eng;/
i have the HTC 5800 and when i try to install this i get a message about not having sufficient privledges.
Any ideas?

Serious help needed

hi all.
I am in serious trouble and i need help. i realized i did not have outlook, thus my contacts are all gone.
I had tried to update my software earlier by installing some .cab file. It was a file for my HTC home. The installation was 'successful', however after i did a reset ( they prompt me to ) i could not boot up my phone. It get hanged once it got to my wallpaper, and i cant tap or press anything. The htc home screen also does not come out.
=(
any kind souls?
So something is hanging right after windows boots... did you try to install HTC Home to a storage card? Try booting with the storage card out.
thanks for the prompt reply. i tried, however it never seems to work. I am using a HTC TYTN ii. running on windows 6.1
I did install it on a storage card. i tried means like switching on without memory card, sim card and did a million resets, but it doesnt seem to work.. =(
Actually i install the HTC Home was because the message counter on the HTC Home got screwed up. it showed 1 unread no although i had all messages read. but anyway, for now, tht's not my main concern.. =(
thanks all in advance ..
I guess I do not understand all of your issues besides the freezing at boot.
A hard reset should be an option, if you're ok with that... and then for the future, use sprite and pim backup to make sure you don't lose too much data.
Try searching the forum for threads like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320689
What caused you to lose your contacts?
my contacts are all saved in the phone, and it wasnt back up cause i am not using microsoft outlook.. and lets say i want to do a hard reset, how to do it?
and how do i do a soft reset with my phone.
Is there anyway that i can actually do a SAFE mode boot up? but my phone keeps getting hanged at start up. i dunno if its because it cant bring up a pin enter mode where I need to key in my pin each time i boot up.
0) What version of ROM were you using?
HTC TYTN ii
1) Applications installed when it happened
HTC HOME (old version ) i d/led and used HTC Diamond home, then it got screwed up cause the unread messages kept showing 1, although all messages were read. i thus wanted to reinstall the HTC home.
2) Radio ROM version (2.19.21, 2.47.21, etc...)
NONE
3) Device model (dopod 818, imate etc...)
HTC TYTN II
4) Device version (G3 or G4)
Windows 6.1?
5) How long it was since last hard reset (1 day,6 hours, etc..)
I never did a hard reset. how do i do it
6) Approx how many soft resets you already made (1-5, 5-10 10-15, etc...)
Soft refers to poking the reset button, would be more than 20 times after this issue
7) Approx how many shutdowns you already made (holding power button for 4+ seconds)
more than 10 times.
8) any other significant info you think will help:
My contacts are not saved syn with my com as i do not have windows outlook.
9) Do you have the HTC Homeplug today plugin enabled?
10) have you populated your PIM apps via pimbackup or via activesync?
11) Do you have the "HTC_default" today theme enabled?
yes.
for now, i cant boot up. the screen will hang at my wallpaper. i cant seem to press or click anything after that. My pin start up prompt does not apear too. please help =(
depressed ivy.
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure you need an app to use safe mode. You might need to loose your contacts, but don't give up... research and you might find an answer.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The%20Safe%20Mode%20Bible
And if you've already tried booting without a sim and storage card, you might need to hard reset, which is easy enough after reading the wiki.
e.g. press both softkeys while resetting, or you could even flash a new rom via sd card by naming the .nbh file KAISIMG.nbh and putting it on your storage card root directory.
Read the wiki before you make any decisions and good luck, good news is your phone sounds like it's fine, just install a safe mode program next time.
Hi. I did research like wht you adviced, i managed to log into bootloader mode, i downloaded MTTY program and got my phone to the USB mode. I like to ask the following:
1) can i retrieve and save my contacts as i saved them all in my phone and none in my sim card?
2) Wht can i do next as I'm badly stuck at the HTC home page with only my wallpaper, i cant click on any buttons.
Thanks in advance to all.
I really hope that some GURUs here are able to help solve my terrible situation and i would really appreciate it. My contacts are all save in the phone and i need some help in retrieving it.
Thanks all.
asdfgh123 said:
I really hope that some GURUs here are able to help solve my terrible situation and i would really appreciate it. My contacts are all save in the phone and i need some help in retrieving it.
Thanks all.
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At what exactly point does it freeze?
What is your radio version, it should appear after you turn on the device in red letters on the bottom right.
What is your SPL Version, you should be able to see it from the bootloader?
Dave
Hello friend. When I suggested research, I meant things like this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2732337
I found this thread by clicking search in the top right to use google, and typed "save contacts" which if you've gone into MTTY research (be careful by the way) then you might be able to backup your data.
MY SPL : 3.29.0000
MY radio: 1.65.16.25
When i boot up, i suppose to have some password protect, to enter my pin before there is reception and stuff. For now, I can only see my wallpaper, the start button, contacts and calander buttons.However i cant touch on anything, it just simply hangs there.
SIM card and memory card are off. I tried SYNC, but it says cannot detect device.
=((
asdfgh123 said:
MY SPL : 3.29.0000
MY radio: 1.65.16.25
When i boot up, i suppose to have some password protect, to enter my pin before there is reception and stuff. For now, I can only see my wallpaper, the start button, contacts and calander buttons.However i cant touch on anything, it just simply hangs there.
SIM card and memory card are off. I tried SYNC, but it says cannot detect device.
=((
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By "SYNC" you mean active sync? Try an Actice sync re-install, maybe?
Sounds like this protect stuff is beggared.
Ta
Dave
i meant active sync, it says it cant detect my device. Is there anyway from MTTY, i cant retrieve my contacts?
All this actually happen after i installed .cab file the other day, and the installation was fine and i was prompt to restart. It hanged after that till date. sigh =( I'm desperate.
GURUs,
I cant get my device to go any further than hanging right at the wallpaper of HTC Home, the usb doenst recognize my device, so i cant enter or do any thing.
I just wish to retrieve my contacts now, and do a hard reset on my phone.
Thanks.
If you never saved your contacts from and to your sim card without any kind of backup from outlook or pim, etc. you might be ****e out of luck. Gone from a ****ty samsung to a equally ****ty razr, hermes, and now kaiser with the same sim...Always copy your contacts to the sim; or at least a Backup folder on your desktop or lap. flashing erases the main memory, which of course includes contacts. That's why we have a program called sim manager, to backup contacts everytime we erase our systems. Hope you find a workaround though, as a former Iphone owner, reinputting your contacts is a giant *****
sigh.. does tht means i'm so dead now? I did ever did a PPCPimBackup, but its stored in the phone memory too? any sort of help you can assist?
asdfgh123 said:
sigh.. does tht means i'm so dead now? I did ever did a PPCPimBackup, but its stored in the phone memory too? any sort of help you can assist?
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Possibly, I've tried to get hold of someone who might know, but it's looking grim.
Storage Card backups and Active Sync are the best way to backup.
*DaveShaw closes barn door after the horse has bolted *
Ta
DAve

Unable to Boot error, but device works!

Greetings people!
Yesterday I got this message while booting up my TP (latest official ROM):
"The device is unable to boot because either you have turned off the device incorrectly or tried to install an application from untrusted source. Press END to reset your device or press any other button to cancel. This operation will delete all your personal data and restore the device to its factory default settings"
However apart from that message, phone works flawlessly without any noticable change in speed or stability! The only apparent problem is that it takes a while longer (about 10 seconds) to boot up because of that message. I tried a couple of backups, problem was solved at first, but returned later...
I do take daily backups, but since I hardly monitor my phone when I reset it, this problem could have been caused by an app or reg entry a while ago... and searching for the appropriate backup will be a pain in the ass.
Since there's no change in speed or stability, do you think it would be wise to keep using the phone as is, or is it possible this would cause further problems down the road?
Any other way to troubleshoot it (at least to find the program that's causing this) other than a hard reset?
Edit: couldn't wait so I reverted to a week-old backup, installed back most of my applications, and it seems to be fixed (for now)
Update! I just tried a new SD to try XDAndroid, and guess what, the error disappeared!
So there must be a program I had installed in the storage card, possibly trying to start a service or something on every reset... and failing.
Is there a way to troubleshoot this? Maybe through SKTools or anything similar? I have a ton of apps installed into storage card and it will be a pain in the back cover to try by trial-and-error.
Thank you in advance
edit: inserted my old storage card again, error did not appear, problem solved! At least for now
Still if anyone knows how to troubleshoot this, please let me know
Update: Seems this error occurs every time I use SPB backup.
Yesterday, after a scheduled backup, the error came back. To troubleshoot this, I removed the SD card, did a soft reset, the error was gone! I took another manual backup, and again, the error came back.
So there must be something happening with SPB Backup and my SD card. Probably messing with files on the SD, or the driver or whatever (no idea there, I'm a total noob when it comes to software).
Moved the issue to the SPB forum
I have this message to, but I have never used SPB Backup
Well, in my case, it was obviously something tampering with the SD card (even if not SPB backup, something else)
Have you tried rebooting your phone with the SD card taken off? I just wait till it boots normally, and then insert it back. Works for me every time.
If that still happens, that probably means whatever is causing the problem is in your main memory.
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Well, in my case, it was obviously something tampering with the SD card (even if not SPB backup, something else)
Have you tried rebooting your phone with the SD card taken off? I just wait till it boots normally, and then insert it back. Works for me every time.
If that still happens, that probably means whatever is causing the problem is in your main memory.
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Well I tried that just to see what would happen and I did not get the error message. So it is something on the SD card, but booting without it is not an option for me as I have several boot-start apps that are housed on it.
Perhaps one of those apps is broken?
As far as my case goes, I kept on using it for three months after the error appeared, without noticing any lag or issues at all. The only downside was that it took me three minutes to boot up, something I got used to.
If that's no big deal for you, I'd suggest you just leave it as it is for now, and check for lagging or specific applications failing (maybe one of them will be the app that's causing the problem?). If nothing happens down the road I think it could be safe to leave it as it is.
Now, if you can't stand this, I guess the only practical solution would be a hard reset. You can always play around with removing/reinstalling those apps you mention (or even better, installing them in the phone's memory) to check if and which one is broken, but I can understand that this not only will be a huge burden, but you may come to the conclusion that no specific app is causing this and something went south in the OS.
Personally the only apps which include a boot-up service I have installed into my SD are Football Monitor and PocketWeather. I tried removing both of them them back when I first had that issue, it didn't work...
Sorry I couldn't help more :/

[Q] Problems with HTC locations app

Guys,
I have the following problem with HTC's "locations" app.
I was downloading some maps, and some are rather large (GBs). At somepoint my phone got switched off. When it switched on, I was notified that the downloads had not completed. So I select to continue. But the downloads immediately jump to pause and I get the download warning notification, telling me of the incomplete download.
I thought that this probably is related to corrupt on the map files that I trie dto download. Since these are supposed to be on the TF card (mini SD card, whatever you wanna call it), I cannot find them anywhere. Since its an unrooted phone (and i want to keep it that way), I cannot see if they are stored in the phone's internal memory, and I certainly do not want to go through a full reinstall of everything again by doing a factory reset.
Can anyone tell me how I can solve this problem?
is this an actual problem of the application (HTC Locations) or is it a problem with potentially corrupt downloads (in which case, where are they and how do I remove them), or could it be something else?
Can I uninstall HTC locations and reinstall it again, or does this just affect the app itself, not the maps?
any help would be appreciated
Thanks,
K

Samsung Focus stuck on Omnia ROM

So let's start this thread by saying I was stupid.
In my desperation to upgrade my ROM I went and flashed my Focus with the new Omnia engineering rom. Stupid yes but it flashed. The reason I did it was non of the Samsung focus retail Roms would flash with the WP7 flashing tool not even the jK2 ROM. Which is suppose to be the basic 7004 ROM.
Every time I flashed it would say "This Rom does NOT match the device" or "this device is NOt retail."
So let me just state I had the "RTM Mango" flash on my device already flashed and worked. I was trying to upgrade the firmware and radio stacks. The phone aways worked and was NOT a demo device.
I have tried to flash:
1. jK2 stock Rom same error as above
2. Rom for v1.4 won't work same error as above
3. Rogers Rom on my AT&T focus same error as above.
Basically the only rom that flashed was the engineering rom for the Omnia.
Now the phone boots (with a Omnia splash screen ) I can get it to download mode I can even use the phone just none of the buttons work! I really just want to get a Samsung focus rom back on don't care if it's not Mango at the moment.
My questions:
1. Anyone got an engineering rom for the focus seems to be the only Roms that can load on my device
2. Anyone got some advise to get it back to a Samsung focus rom?
I know I shouldn't have but it's done and can't cry over spilt milk.....
I would really appreciate the help.
I'm not sure what you mean by Jk2's rom, but have you tried the 1.3 version, not rogers?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131022
this thread has rogers, att 1.4 and att 1.3, all for focus. Ive successfully flashed my 1.3 focus several times. Also, in this thread they talk about how flashing 1.4 is always iffy.
Best way to get back to a Focus ROM is probably to restore a backup that was taken when you upgraded the phone. I hope you can still connect the phone to the Zune software? If so, try that.
The Omnia has physical buttons, the Focus uses capacitive buttons only (for the front three). I'm not surprised the drivers are different.
Did you by any chance use a hack to get NoDo on the phone? The "debranding" hack shouldn't prevent flashing, but will result in you receiving a different ROM from the upgrade servers than was quite meant for your phone. Chris Walsh's update hack did not install the full set of update packages it should have, resulting in what has become known as a "Walshed" phone. Walshed phones, because they're kind of partway between updates, can't receive further updates. A tool was later released to fix a Walshed phone.
The fact that the Focus ROMs wouldn't flash but the Omnia onw would is quite odd; I'm not sure what would cause that.
If at all possible, I recommend restoring your phone to a retail configuration using a Zune backup, and them trying the official update path again. Only once you've exhausted your options there should you try anything else.
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Best way to get back to a Focus ROM is probably to restore a backup that was taken when you upgraded the phone. I hope you can still connect the phone to the Zune software? If so, try that.
The Omnia has physical buttons, the Focus uses capacitive buttons only (for the front three). I'm not surprised the drivers are different.
Did you by any chance use a hack to get NoDo on the phone? The "debranding" hack shouldn't prevent flashing, but will result in you receiving a different ROM from the upgrade servers than was quite meant for your phone. Chris Walsh's update hack did not install the full set of update packages it should have, resulting in what has become known as a "Walshed" phone. Walshed phones, because they're kind of partway between updates, can't receive further updates. A tool was later released to fix a Walshed phone.
The fact that the Focus ROMs wouldn't flash but the Omnia onw would is quite odd; I'm not sure what would cause that.
If at all possible, I recommend restoring your phone to a retail configuration using a Zune backup, and them trying the official update path again. Only once you've exhausted your options there should you try anything else.
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Firstly thank you for the time you took to reply.
Yes the history of this device is quite a lengthy one. I did do a NODO hack to get it to NODO. I then used the internal MS bits leaked to the net to force it to Mango. I was picking up some funnies like no matter how quick or soft I pressed the back button it would go into multi tasking making the phone impossible to use.
So I looked and researched and found my firmware, bootloaders etc were way out of date. I flashed the Omnia rom onto the Focus in hope that it was the same phone but alas its to late now......
Ok so when I connect it to the PC Zune picks it up all dandy but as a new phone - Omnia not my old focus. Is there a way to trick it into thinking its my Focus?
The phone functions in the sense that it boots, I can use it just don't have any buttons to use it with. All the screen functions work perfectly.
I will download Walsh tool to un Walsh the phone and try again...
I really appreciate the help!
I don't think you can "trick" it into seeing it as your Focus, because from a software perspective, it just isn't. However, the restore points (backups) are tied to the hardware, not the software. To see if you can restore one, first check in Window Explorer at the path %localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\ and see how big the contents of that folder are. There should be hundreds of meg to a few gigs, depending on how big the backup is.
Now, that's only going to be the most recent restore point. If you made backups of your earlier restore points, you can send the phone even further back, hopefully to before quite so many things get messed up. However, each time you do an update with Zune it overwrites the location where the previous restore point was. Note that if you installed any updates through a mecanism other than Zune, for example usign the WPSHIFT tool that was used for the beta, it probably took a backup but might have put it in a different location (often in TEMP, which hopefully you haven't cleaned out).
If you have Volume Shadow Copies enabled on your PC (Vista/Win7/any recent Server), you may be able to use the Previous Versions feature to pull an older restore point than the most recent one, or to recover a restore point if it was deleted for some reason. Be careful, though - old shadow copies are deleted as space is needed for other things, but they aren't deleted atomically; it's possible you'll pull only half of an old restore point or something equally silly (they're made up of hundreds or thousands of small files).
Once you've got your restore point, I strongly recommend making a backup of it by copying the folder! Then, connect your phone and start Zune, and go to Settings -> Device -> Update. It'll probably say there aren't any updates available, that's fine. In the same part of the window where it says that, though, there should be an option to restore a backup (it'll give the date of the backup and a restore button). If that button isn't visible, re-copy the restore point over the location where Zune expected to find it (%localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\), and check for updates again.
As for the un-Walshing tool, it probably won't do anything on your OmniaFocus. It may fix the problem if you successfully use a restore point (and get back to a pure Focus), though. There's a good chance that the last restore point you have will be from right before you began the Mango update process, in which case your phone will be back in its Walshed state, ready for un-Walshing using the tool.
I hope that helps. If you do decide to try flashing again (if you don't have a restore point, this is probably the only option), make sure you're using a ROM for your hardware revision of the Focus. There are two, the 1.3 revision (the first one released), and the 1.4 revision (released later, identical except it uses a different Flash memory chip internally and therefore has different drivers). If you bought your phone any time in 2011, it could be either a 1.3 or a 1.4. There are a few ways to check, but one of the best (since your software is currently messed up) is to look under the battery. There's a sticker that should say soemthing like "rev1.3/rev1.4". You need to match that revision number when selecting a ROM to flash, or (even if it works) you wouldn't be able to access the phone's internal storage.
It seems a little unlikely to me, but it's possible that Walshing your phone made it report itself as an Omnia, thus the reason you could flash that ROM (but not the Focus ones). I'd expect that to be based on lower-level hardware checks, though.
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I don't think you can "trick" it into seeing it as your Focus, because from a software perspective, it just isn't. However, the restore points (backups) are tied to the hardware, not the software. To see if you can restore one, first check in Window Explorer at the path %localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\ and see how big the contents of that folder are. There should be hundreds of meg to a few gigs, depending on how big the backup is.
Now, that's only going to be the most recent restore point. If you made backups of your earlier restore points, you can send the phone even further back, hopefully to before quite so many things get messed up. However, each time you do an update with Zune it overwrites the location where the previous restore point was. Note that if you installed any updates through a mecanism other than Zune, for example usign the WPSHIFT tool that was used for the beta, it probably took a backup but might have put it in a different location (often in TEMP, which hopefully you haven't cleaned out).
If you have Volume Shadow Copies enabled on your PC (Vista/Win7/any recent Server), you may be able to use the Previous Versions feature to pull an older restore point than the most recent one, or to recover a restore point if it was deleted for some reason. Be careful, though - old shadow copies are deleted as space is needed for other things, but they aren't deleted atomically; it's possible you'll pull only half of an old restore point or something equally silly (they're made up of hundreds or thousands of small files).
Once you've got your restore point, I strongly recommend making a backup of it by copying the folder! Then, connect your phone and start Zune, and go to Settings -> Device -> Update. It'll probably say there aren't any updates available, that's fine. In the same part of the window where it says that, though, there should be an option to restore a backup (it'll give the date of the backup and a restore button). If that button isn't visible, re-copy the restore point over the location where Zune expected to find it (%localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\), and check for updates again.
As for the un-Walshing tool, it probably won't do anything on your OmniaFocus. It may fix the problem if you successfully use a restore point (and get back to a pure Focus), though. There's a good chance that the last restore point you have will be from right before you began the Mango update process, in which case your phone will be back in its Walshed state, ready for un-Walshing using the tool.
I hope that helps. If you do decide to try flashing again (if you don't have a restore point, this is probably the only option), make sure you're using a ROM for your hardware revision of the Focus. There are two, the 1.3 revision (the first one released), and the 1.4 revision (released later, identical except it uses a different Flash memory chip internally and therefore has different drivers). If you bought your phone any time in 2011, it could be either a 1.3 or a 1.4. There are a few ways to check, but one of the best (since your software is currently messed up) is to look under the battery. There's a sticker that should say soemthing like "rev1.3/rev1.4". You need to match that revision number when selecting a ROM to flash, or (even if it works) you wouldn't be able to access the phone's internal storage.
It seems a little unlikely to me, but it's possible that Walshing your phone made it report itself as an Omnia, thus the reason you could flash that ROM (but not the Focus ones). I'd expect that to be based on lower-level hardware checks, though.
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Thank you for the reply!
So looks like I am screwed. I looked for the backup and nothing on my machine even tried volume shadow copy and nothing in the Windows Phone Update folder.
I might have to try create a USB JIG to force a flash onto the phone. That should work right? That should flash which ever ROM I like regardless of the checks that things like WP7 Downloader do?
I would appreciate the guidance before I go ahead and build the USB JIG.
PS _ Anyone know what files are inside the backup folder maybe I can search windows for those and find the back up folder somewhere
The updates are usually stored here:
"C:\Users\%YOUR_USER%\Local Settings\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\"
Either search for a "RestorePoint" folder (without quotes) or "Data.0.dat" "Data.1.dat" etc files
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The updates are usually stored here:
""
Either search for a "RestorePoint" folder (without quotes) or "Data.0.dat" "Data.1.dat" etc files
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THANKS so much I FOUND a backup C:\PreMangoState
This is when I did the Mango upgrade using the "MS internal leaked" files.
Going to try this.
I am going to suggest you try the engineering ROM for the Samsung Focus: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045968
day2die said:
I am going to suggest you try the engineering ROM for the Samsung Focus: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045968
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THAT WORKED YOU ROCK
Now can I ask why only engineering ROM's are working and will I be able to get it to MANGO?
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THAT WORKED YOU ROCK
Now can I ask why only engineering ROM's are working and will I be able to get it to MANGO?
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So as soon as I plugged it in Zune found the phone and upgraded all the upgrades all the way to mango
Thank you once again. Do you know what the latest GSM firmware is?
I have similar problem except mine is stuck on the samsung logo screen so cannot connect to zune.
I am trying to flash this engineering ROM that seemed to work for you, but it keeps saying Error!! "This Device does NOT match with selected binary. Downloader will NOT do anything" and thus the flash will nto complete.
Any suggestions?
neibl said:
I have similar problem except mine is stuck on the samsung logo screen so cannot connect to zune.
I am trying to flash this engineering ROM that seemed to work for you, but it keeps saying Error!! "This Device does NOT match with selected binary. Downloader will NOT do anything" and thus the flash will nto complete.
Any suggestions?
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Have you tried the retail roms (check the general forum there is a sticky with the retail roms) if you getting the error "This device does not match with the selected binary" with the flasher it could be one of two things:
1. Your device is not an engineering device and you need to use the right retail rom.
2. Which version of the WP7 Downloader tool are you using 7.05, 7.21 or 7.41?
For the retail ROM you should use 7.05
For the engineering ROM you should use 7.41.
7.41 comes with the new leaked Samsung OMNIA 7 ROM (Do a search for that rom) DO NOT FLASH (like I did ) the OMNIA ROM onto your focus it will not work.
The other question is if your phone is stuck on the "SAMSUNG" screen can you get it into DOWNLOAD mode (Turn the phone off, then hold CAM + VOL DOWN and POWER) It should then turn on and go into DOWNLOAD MODE. The WP7 tool will only see the phone is in DOWNLOAD MODE. From what you telling us with the error above you are getting into DOWNLOAD MODE but just confirm.
IMO if you can still get into DOWNLOAD MODE not all is lost.
I already have flashed the omnia ROM onto my phone that is why I am in this problem. I have reflashed the focus ROm but it is frozen on the logo screen no matter what I do.
Seems like this engineering ROM fixed it for the lad who created this post, so I might give it a try, what do you think?
Yes I can get the phone into download mode & also the format mode (it doesn't do anything though), I cannot connect the phone to zune because it freezes on the logo screen before launch. Also I have 7.03, 7.05, & 7.21 and have tried all of them thus far, did not know of the 7.41.
So 7.41 and flash the engineering rom? It sounds like you have some ideas, please share it would be greatly apreciated.
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I already have flashed the omnia ROM onto my phone that is why I am in this problem. I have reflashed the focus ROm but it is frozen on the logo screen no matter what I do.
Seems like this engineering ROM fixed it for the lad who created this post, so I might give it a try, what do you think?
Yes I can get the phone into download mode & also the format mode (it doesn't do anything though), I cannot connect the phone to zune because it freezes on the logo screen before launch. Also I have 7.03, 7.05, & 7.21 and have tried all of them thus far, did not know of the 7.41.
So 7.41 and flash the engineering rom? It sounds like you have some ideas, please share it would be greatly apreciated.
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Ok so you need to download the latest Samsung Omnia 7 ROM it will have the WP7 Downloader 4.21. Thats the only one that will flash the engineering ROM onto the device.
Zune will not pick up the phone till it completely boots so Zune wont help you in this case. You have to try and fix it using your WP7 downloader(s).
This is the link I used to get the Downloader: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011/10/15/update-your-samsung-omnia-7-to-the-latest-i8700xxki3-firmware-now/
Good luck!
Engineering ROM did not work, still frozen on samsung logo screen, something is definitely broken on the phone that will not let it get past this point and I have no idea. Seems like no one else knows either as no one has been able to solve this for over 7 months.
If anyone thinks they can solve this please suggestions are welcomed. If you need more details please let me know. If someone can fix this I'd be willing to paypal them real cash no joke.
Much thanks to myphonerules for helping!
If I call samsung and complain will they tell me i'm out of luck? I got the phone off ebay so its not covered by anything.
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Engineering ROM did not work, still frozen on samsung logo screen, something is definitely broken on the phone that will not let it get past this point and I have no idea. Seems like no one else knows either as no one has been able to solve this for over 7 months.
If anyone thinks they can solve this please suggestions are welcomed. If you need more details please let me know. If someone can fix this I'd be willing to paypal them real cash no joke.
Much thanks to myphonerules for helping!
If I call samsung and complain will they tell me i'm out of luck? I got the phone off ebay so its not covered by anything.
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You sure you don't have a DEMO phone? Has it ever worked on a GSM network?
No its not a demo phone, i used the phone with my AT&T SIM card for few days. Then i put in a 32mb microsd card and after 24 hours it reset into a gimped mode with only 15 mb where i couldn't do anything and had no at&t apps on it strangly also. I flashed the samsung omnia 7 ROM onto the phone and would not load past the omnia 7 load screen. Then I flashed the focus ROM (it wasn't available originally) back and it would not load past the samsung screen. By this point I really just think the phone is completely done.
Any suggestions? or think its garbage?
I'm debating buying a focus with broken screen off ebay and using the screen from this one to replace it and bam pretty much new phone.
Is there a way to get a convert a non retail focus to retail? Is there a retail ROM available for the focus that can be flashed on the non retail version?

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