ATT (phone/Service) unlocked --> Verizon - General Questions and Answers

So,
I have an ATT FUZE phone and service right now and it is SIM Unlocked.
I can also install any ROM (SuperCID?) and I just flashed the rom to ATT's latest Radio/WM6.1 last week.
I'm considering switching to Verizon using the same phone because ATT reception is crap
I'm assuming I can still use the latest ATT Radio (they're all GSM right?) and won't have to reflash the radio to Verizon specific? I should just be able to get a Verizon SIM card and everything else should work straight off the bat no? I know the phone will work with the Verizon Sim.
My concerns are the data -radio wise and speed and reliability with the ATT (specific?) radio.
Thoughts?

Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA.

myknyte said:
So,
I have an ATT FUZE phone and service right now and it is SIM Unlocked.
I can also install any ROM (SuperCID?) and I just flashed the rom to ATT's latest Radio/WM6.1 last week.
I'm considering switching to Verizon using the same phone because ATT reception is crap
I'm assuming I can still use the latest ATT Radio (they're all GSM right?) and won't have to reflash the radio to Verizon specific? I should just be able to get a Verizon SIM card and everything else should work straight off the bat no? I know the phone will work with the Verizon Sim.
My concerns are the data -radio wise and speed and reliability with the ATT (specific?) radio.
Thoughts?
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Well the problem is that AT&T is GSM Verizon is CDMA the phone will NOT work on the Verizon network. The only SIM cards for Verizon is for international calling not domestic and will not work in the states. Sounds like a great plan but it will NOT work. Sorry for the bad news.....

the Fuze is a GSM phone, thus it will not work on Sprint or Verizon. The CDMA version of the phone is the Sprint Touch Pro (will work on Verizon or Sprint). I would see your Fuze on ebay, and us the money to buy the Sprint Touch Pro then switch to Verizon.
DO NO BUY THE VERIZON TOUCH PRO. IT HAS LESS RAM (192mb vs Sprint's 288mb). The Verizon version of the Touch Pro is a waste of money, so make sure to get the Sprint version - you can use it on either network.

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use sprint touch pro 2 on tmobile

what do i have to do? can i use two service providers at the same time? can i use tmobile for voice and sprint for data? can i use tmobiles aws 3g band? has anybody done this? do i need to use my turbo sim?
I have heard reports that the GSM in the US doesn't work. Also, the FCC filings state there is a lock to prevent this from happening. I really hope someone can find a crack soon so I can use the Sprint TP2 on ATT.
However, I have heard some people getting the Telus version unlocked to work on GSM.
i'm interested in this as well - i've got a work cell that's got a tmo sim and would love to be able to pop the tmo sim in my tp2 and be able to select somehow which phone #/network the phone call comes from
OmarBadu said:
i'm interested in this as well - i've got a work cell that's got a tmo sim and would love to be able to pop the tmo sim in my tp2 and be able to select somehow which phone #/network the phone call comes from
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Well, you can already select GSM, CDMA, or Auto on the phone. The only problem is to unlock the firmware so US GSM sim cards will work. Hoping Olipro or cmonex have something up their sleeves.

what to do?

I have an unlocked tp and i talked with verizon trying to set it up to use it on there network and they say i cant use it with them even tho i have the good esn number and all? what should i do have you guys heard of this or was that guys just being stupid?
I think im going to resell it or trade it for a verizon version. if any one wants to trade for a sprint version thats unlocked and comes with many extras in the orignal bo x with a 1 gig card and the mighty rom with android I will sell or trade it for 160 its in great condition Davey
there are two types of wireless networks in the world: GSM and CDMA. your phone is GSM in hardware = can't be changed), and verizon's network is CDMA = not comaptible.
correct me if im wrong but the sprint is the cdma and the att is the gsm. this phone has mightys cdma rom on it. it would have bricked the phone if it was gsm right at least that is what all the info i have read has told me. I have even flashed it to the stock verizon rom which is cdma and it was fine. I have found a few pages in the wiki about how to use it on the verizon network i will try they look kinda complicated tho.
DadamsJR said:
correct me if im wrong but the sprint is the cdma and the att is the gsm. this phone has mightys cdma rom on it. it would have bricked the phone if it was gsm right at least that is what all the info i have read has told me. I have even flashed it to the stock verizon rom which is cdma and it was fine. I have found a few pages in the wiki about how to use it on the verizon network i will try they look kinda complicated tho.
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sprint & verizon are cdma, t-mobile & at&t are gsm.
i haven't tried flashing a cdma rom on my fuze... i know it is highly unrecommended. but i am sure there is a way to tell if ur phone is gsm or cdma, probably by looking at the sticker under that battery.
Dad is correct.. Sprint is CDMA jsut like VZW... and there is an easier way to tell if it is GSM or CDMA..... Take off the batter cover.... Do you see a Sim Card? If Yes, then it is a GSM... If No, Then CDMA unless it is GSM and no sim card is in it.. then power it up... it will say SIM CARD MISSING... That will tell you that it is GSM.....
Hope that helps.
I know its cdma for a fact it has sprint across the front and it has a cdma rom on it

What exactly is the point of SIM Unlocking?

I was just wondering what the point of doing this is? Like is it just so I could use like the Verizon CDMA network or what?
I have the Sprint Rhodium400 and its STOCK radio version is 2.32.00.WU, so I mean according to what I read this is unlocked.
anyway, I was just wondering what if any point doing the Security Unlock has for me?
the SIM unlock is to use it on US GSM networks such as ATT and TMobile, it doesnt allow it to work on other CDMA networks like Verizon
Oh ok, thanks for the heads up on that one.
Good looking out (I was wondering about that for the longest time)
Jamio88 said:
I was just wondering what the point of doing this is? Like is it just so I could use like the Verizon CDMA network or what?
I have the Sprint Rhodium400 and its STOCK radio version is 2.32.00.WU, so I mean according to what I read this is unlocked.
anyway, I was just wondering what if any point doing the Security Unlock has for me?
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If your radio says WU that means that you can use any GSM sim card (not CDMA) on any network w ur phone. Security unlock - HSPL will let you flash your phone with custom roms. You can find more info about HSPL by following thread by OLIPRO. Of course thank him for his work. Have fun flashing.
FYI... Do not flash your phone w CDMA roms.
mboguc said:
If your radio says WU that means that you can use any GSM sim card (not CDMA) on any network w ur phone. Security unlock - HSPL will let you flash your phone with custom roms. You can find more info about HSPL by following thread by OLIPRO. Of course thank him for his work. Have fun flashing.
FYI... Do not flash your phone w CDMA roms.
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This is not true. The stock radio in verizon roms has a wu but all sims are locked minus the stock vodaphone sim. The locked sim does not have to do with the radio on the verizon tp2.
drewcam888 said:
This is not true. The stock radio in verizon roms has a wu but all sims are locked minus the stock vodaphone sim. The locked sim does not have to do with the radio on the verizon tp2.
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first. he has sprint..
second. verizon doesnt have wu.. unless you flash it w one (stock is always wv)
i do give you credit cuz i did not know that wu may still be locked.
no hard feelings.
peace
The Sprint TP2 has no SIM lock in the system, but the radio ROM is lacking support for the US bands. So while the Sprint TP2 will accept any SIM it will not get a SIGNAL in North America unless you pay for the security unlock and apply a patched radio.
The Verizon TP2 HAS a SIM lock in the system, but the radio ROM has full support for the US bands. So if you just want to use a SIM card, then all you need to do is get an unlock code from Verizon.
Both version radios have support for Euro bands.
Default behaviour:
Sprint = Use any SIM you want, but only get a signal in Europe and Japan when in GSM mode.
Verizon = Can't use *any* SIM except Verizon until you unlock, but to unlock you can do it by requesting a free code from Verizon CS.
so u can use ur phone on a different network (phones with sim cards obviously)
SiL3nTKiLL said:
so u can use ur phone on a different network (phones with sim cards obviously)
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Yes. Once unlocked, you can switch the phone to GSM mode and use any GSM SIM card.
I do have Sprint (The Rhodium400).
It has been HSPL Unlocked for about 6 or 7 weeks now, just was curious about the Radio unlocking stuff (as I have never messed around with it).
I have already run the gauntlet of the various Custom ROMs out there. All (well most of) them seemed to be very VERY well built, however none seemed to suit me to quite 100%, so I have been working on my own for about 3 weeks now give or take.
It is a slow going process (mainly due to working so much), but it is very fun and a learning experience none the less. Looking forward to the day it is finished (So that I can start on the next one, lol).
gamescan said:
The Sprint TP2 has no SIM lock in the system, but the radio ROM is lacking support for the US bands. So while the Sprint TP2 will accept any SIM it will not get a SIGNAL in North America unless you pay for the security unlock and apply a patched radio.
The Verizon TP2 HAS a SIM lock in the system, but the radio ROM has full support for the US bands. So if you just want to use a SIM card, then all you need to do is get an unlock code from Verizon.
Both version radios have support for Euro bands.
Default behaviour:
Sprint = Use any SIM you want, but only get a signal in Europe and Japan when in GSM mode.
Verizon = Can't use *any* SIM except Verizon until you unlock, but to unlock you can do it by requesting a free code from Verizon CS.
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..also thought I read somewhere in CMONEX thread a recap saying if unlocking sprint radio/SIM you'd be able to use Verizon towers... (will look for post & put hyperlink here soon)
also, from ppc/cmonex sticky:
BIG NOTE: if you have the Sprint branded TP2, then after running this SIM/Sec Unlocker, you'll need to flash a patched sprint radio (in other thread) to finish the process.
... sprint is a Security (CID) unlocker, which needs unlocking first, then a "patched" (unlocked?) sprint radio also...
"Originally Posted by Syriel View Post
By default, the stock Sprint radio only has support for GSM 900/1800 (Euro bands) even though the hardware supports GSM 850/900/1800/1900. When you flash Oli's WU radio to the Sprint TP2 it re-enables support for GSM 850/1900 (NA bands).
The reason that Sprint disabled the (NA bands) is because the Sprint TP2 (unlike the VZW TP2) is SIM unlocked from the factory. The VZW TP2 ships with full band support, but it is SIM locked from the factory.
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Guess I'd just make it simple: Sprint needs a band enabler - 850/1900 (security unlocker?) & then a radio that works on it... (patched WU)
So I have Sprint service on my TP2.. if I unlocked it would I be able to receive a call from either network or do I have to manually select one and swap back and forth?
I can understand having a default outgoing radio (choosing CDMA or GSM).. but it'd be more useful to have the ability to take make use of both lines..
slappy76 said:
So I have Sprint service on my TP2.. if I unlocked it would I be able to receive a call from either network or do I have to manually select one and swap back and forth?
I can understand having a default outgoing radio (choosing CDMA or GSM).. but it'd be more useful to have the ability to take make use of both lines..
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you would have to switch back and forth
and of course have a SIM card from a GSM provider like ATT or T-Mobile

Verizon Moto G on Straight Talk

The phone is only $99 on Verizon. I heard you needed to use the phone for 6 months before you can use it on another carrier
Anyway to get around this or has anyone actually done this yet? Want to make sure it works.
And are you still getting Verizon coverage on Straight Talk or how does that work?
Is there a 16gb CDMA version as well? Only saw an 8gb.
kaivorth said:
The phone is only $99 on Verizon. I heard you needed to use the phone for 6 months before you can use it on another carrier
Anyway to get around this or has anyone actually done this yet? Want to make sure it works.
And are you still getting Verizon coverage on Straight Talk or how does that work?
Is there a 16gb CDMA version as well? Only saw an 8gb.
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I think that Straight Talk is a GSM network so you would have to have the GSM model of the phone. I was under the impression that Straight Talk uses the T-Mobile network. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
romuloxiii said:
I think that Straight Talk is a GSM network so you would have to have the GSM model of the phone. I was under the impression that Straight Talk uses the T-Mobile network. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
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They have a CDMA card you can buy and register your phone on their network. I think it's kind of new. I'd link you but I'm on mobile
romuloxiii said:
I think that Straight Talk is a GSM network so you would have to have the GSM model of the phone. I was under the impression that Straight Talk uses the T-Mobile network. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
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Straight talk uses Sprint and Verizon CDMA networks as well as T-mobile and AT&T GSM networks...
I'm really not sure how the BYOD on CDMA works, I would like more info as well.
redking117 said:
Straight talk uses Sprint and Verizon CDMA networks as well as T-mobile and AT&T GSM networks...
I'm really not sure how the BYOD on CDMA works, I would like more info as well.
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Straight Talk (Verizon Wireless - CDMA) will require an access code to their network; $15.00. This applies to phones that do not have a SIM Card which the $99 8GB Motorola Moto G CDMA variant is. However, I did put the MEID for the device as to its compatibility on Straight Talk and was told it is not which makes no sense given if you have a GSM variant, it does not require a subsidy unlock code if the device is set up with either the AT&T and/or T-Mobile radios. I have to believe that the reason has to do with those stupid clauses which carriers have with their phones and however long they are. It's always been my understanding the code is what you need to run on their network. One caveat; I have noticed that on Verizon Wireless's prepaid "Everything" plan, the devices run only on their 3G network nor am I aware they have the 4G LTE radios in them. I've tested their 3G band and at best regardless of where I have tested it between Albany, GA; Columbus, GA; Auburn-Opelika, AL; the best speed I have had is tops 1.0 meg down but normally about 0.7 megs (700 k) down...enough to run Pandora or any music app. I will say one thing about the phone, for the price, not bad! I wish it was available when I bought an HTC One M7 I paid $650.00 for but I got the DE 64GB variant; this device, you do feel the 8GB restriction though there are many cloud options.

Unlocked Verizon to use on AT&T?

Anyone know if it's possible? Found a deal on CL for an unlocked Verizon S8+ that is all clear to activate. Put a T-mobile sim in it and works fine but seller doesn't have an AT&T chip to test.
It's fine but u won't have volte unless u have att version
It works but you get mostly hspa no LTE due to band limitations

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