HELP. Idiots guide on how to install sat nav required - General Questions and Answers

Hi all new to the forums and new to 99.9% of the terminology used!!!
I've done a search but didn't so much as understand the thread titles! I've looked in the kaiser page but it just me feel even dumber!
Here's the score
I currently living in France
I have a HTCTYTN11 (aka Kaiser) no simcard in it currently
I also have a Acer N35 PDA
What I am after is software to use either or both these devices as Europe wide sat nav for use on my bikes and car.
Like most people I would much prefer not to pay for it!
As well as the software I also need an idiots guide how to install it, by that I mean if you were explaining it to your granny and she'd never seen a PDA before!
Thanks in advance for your help

Well u have some good choices here:
Do a search for nav4all, a free satnav program (well free for a year or so anyway), only downside is that it uses data plan to download maps whilst on the move, as do most free aps.
Second choice is the very good google maps, google it self explanitory really.
Both are easy to install and dont need a dummies guide, just ensure that windows is set to manage ur gps, and same setting applies to the programme.
THere are other apps that dont use maps, but are tracking apps. Trackme is awesom (search for it on here) and u can view ur journey afterwards on google earth for example.
Or another tracking app is noniplot (search here), which once set up (see the online manual (also online manual for trackme)) which u can manually or automatically set waypoints so u can find ur way back to a point u set..... why???? park ur car and go exploring in an unknown place....... u can then find ur car or hotel etc.....
these are just a few, but u need to have a play with them all and get used to them before u go out in the unknown
have fun

I have both iGuidance 2009 with North America maps, & TomTom 7.450 with the 720.1803 NA maps installed. Only possible with my 8 GB card (it takes almost half of it). iGuidance was the easiest in the world. Using a card reader, unless u have usb2.0 on your phone, copy map folder to your card's root, install cab, run. Tomtom was more difficult but as long as you use the same device and have installed it at least once, it is also a simple matter of copying map folder to card root, installing cab & running.
iGuidance works best for pure voice guidance & tomtom is best for visual navigation and it also has voice guidance.
I can run iGuidance even when the sim is out. TomTom needs the sim for some lame reason.
Can't help u with where to get the soft.

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GPS W/O using internet??

is this possible? because i don't have the add on plan for the internet, is there a program that lets u do this? any help would be great thanks in advance..
GPS does not require an internet connection to work.
You need to purchase or "obtain" mapping software that is compatible with your device. For example, AT&T ships the Tilt with their internet-based TeleNav software, but I purchased and installed TomTom Navigator 6. TomTom will use the built in GPS receiver instead of your phone's data connection.
filo4u said:
is this possible? because i don't have the add on plan for the internet, is there a program that lets u do this? any help would be great thanks in advance..
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Any program that stores the maps on the device will work without Internet connection. E.g. TomTom. You can use other GPS utilities such as GPSTuner, GPSTest, VisualGPS, etc without requiring data service. If you want to use Googlemaps you will definitely need a data service.
thanks guys for all your help i was using Googlemaps thats why it wouldn't work
Try Earthcomber.com... for no cost GPS
I tried it and is great if you load all the maps you need while you have access to WiFi (no cost). I loaded all of California easily on my 2gig SD card. Then went out and used it and it works great. There can be cost if you want real time directions and need to hook up to the internet via your carrier or if you want to use Earthcomber other services like where is the nearest pizza place.
If you get directions before you leave and have access to WiFi, you can't beat the price... free to enjoy.
So I use Earthcomber, Google Maps, and VisualGPSce.
Another piece of info or tip... if you're ever in need of free WiFi on the road, try parking your car outside the office check-in at some well known hotels. You can get lucky quite often with an open network or easy to figure entry. Just be aware that if you can do it, not so nice people can too. I've done it to send a quick email or quick directions in a pinch.
Preload Google Maps
filo4u said:
thanks guys for all your help i was using Googlemaps thats why it wouldn't work
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I don't know if it's working, but there's a thread here on xda-developers about saving google maps to storage card...maybe it's also interesting for you...
ok i've installed tomtom but maps aren't up to date how would i update maps because with my tomtom device i can just plug it in and it will run the updates
well if you want traffic updates then most likely you will need an Internet connected
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I tried it and is great if you load all the maps you need while you have access to WiFi (no cost). I loaded all of California easily on my 2gig SD card. Then went out and used it and it works great. There can be cost if you want real time directions and need to hook up to the internet via your carrier or if you want to use Earthcomber other services like where is the nearest pizza place.
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I just tried getting Earthcomber to work on my Tilt. I have the software loaded, but for some reason the GPS isn't working and I can't seem to access the maps. It did a auto search for my GPS and it looked like it found it.
Any words of wisdom? Did you run into any problems? Seems like an interesting product. Also, does it work similarly to Helio's buddy beacon? I'm trying to become a bit more familiar with this software.
Thank you!
devonian69 said:
I just tried getting Earthcomber to work on my Tilt. I have the software loaded, but for some reason the GPS isn't working and I can't seem to access the maps. It did a auto search for my GPS and it looked like it found it.
Any words of wisdom? Did you run into any problems? Seems like an interesting product. Also, does it work similarly to Helio's buddy beacon? I'm trying to become a bit more familiar with this software.
Thank you!
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you might try running gps test first thats what dutty recomends before runninng gps with all his roms.
A little more info...
I didn't have any problems. If you leave more specific info, I'd be more than happy to help. One thing you can start with, aside from the previous response given to you, take a look at which com port it is using. Go to options,settings, then gps tab.
devonian69 said:
I just tried getting Earthcomber to work on my Tilt. I have the software loaded, but for some reason the GPS isn't working and I can't seem to access the maps. It did a auto search for my GPS and it looked like it found it.
Any words of wisdom? Did you run into any problems? Seems like an interesting product. Also, does it work similarly to Helio's buddy beacon? I'm trying to become a bit more familiar with this software.
Thank you!
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tomsenna said:
I didn't have any problems. If you leave more specific info, I'd be more than happy to help. One thing you can start with, aside from the previous response given to you, take a look at which com port it is using. Go to options,settings, then gps tab.
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Its set on Com 4 4800 baud and 1 min (I've played with the baud and comb freq).
The GPS icon turns yellow. Which it says means that it found the gps device but hasn't received a location. I just used google maps and it found my location. I updated the QuickGPS as well - no love there.
I have the Chicago area maps downloaded and got those to show up. I have also restarted the phone a few times just in case. I have the program installed on the device with the maps and data on the MicroSD card. I have run the updater a few times as well. Should I uninstall it and give another go?
Thanks for taking the time to help!
Jim
using Tomtom map data, searching for tomtom software for PPC (kaiser) then last thing in mind to ..... do another searching for unlock the map code.. .. then here we go !!!! - fogot the GPS devices !!!!! (throw them away!!!) . Never pay single cent for data package to provider for google map ect...ect...
Be aware that : US-map data costs 1.2gb in storage. If you wanna play GPS around US, get 2gb micro SD ready !!!
I'm been done with this stuff (took me a lot of time to searching....) and got the excellent GPS in my tilt in result. Good deal !
So close...
Starting fresh often works, so give that a try. I do remember that I got a yellow gps icon at one point but that went away, not sure why. I assume it was just a satelite coverage issue. I think you're almost there. Have you tred VisualGPS or the GPS Test to see if you're getting sufficient satelite coverage?
devonian69 said:
Its set on Com 4 4800 baud and 1 min (I've played with the baud and comb freq).
The GPS icon turns yellow. Which it says means that it found the gps device but hasn't received a location. I just used google maps and it found my location. I updated the QuickGPS as well - no love there.
I have the Chicago area maps downloaded and got those to show up. I have also restarted the phone a few times just in case. I have the program installed on the device with the maps and data on the MicroSD card. I have run the updater a few times as well. Should I uninstall it and give another go?
Thanks for taking the time to help!
Jim
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may I ask for some guidance?

so if you have been following my previous shortcomings with gps on my touch pro, i have returned igo8, after the tech person at the store tried as many ways as he could to get it to work, and finally came to the conclusion that there was no way for it to work.
I would like to somehow have maps on my phone, since i am in a new city and need direction. I dont have a data plan, as i am on pay as you go for the moment. from what i gather, i can download the maps to an sd card, and be able to see them on my phone, but im not sure what i have to download.
My question is, where can i download european or even world maps, to view on my touch pro, and if possible use gps with this application.
i understand that with a data plan i can use google maps, but what are my options at this point?
thanks again, and i promise as soon as this issue is resolved ill stop posting these , what may be to you, remedial questions.
hope to hear.
where i'm at tomtom is the thing really
but otherwise you can look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420418&highlight=gps+maps
Google Maps is freeware. It not only connects to GPS satelites for accurate travel info. But even better, when traveling through the middle of no where, your system's cell phone signal (usually GPRS at this point) keeps you in the "general area". I am very satisfied with Google Maps, and since I have Garmins in all of my vehicles, I can say it is rather accurate.
Makes it perfect for when I travel for business!!!
Igo8 works perfectly on the TP but it has to be on one of the most recent updates of the software.
Have you tried searching this forum for threads dealing with Igo8? You should find most of the answers you need.
Alternatively, TT7 works fine, provided that you have made the registry changes to prevent GPS lag.

Better GPS Navigation Software

Hello xda-developers
I was wonder why there isn't a better GPS navigation software for Windows Mobile cellphones (more preferably a newer one like the HTC Touch Pro)?
There is Google Maps which is fantastic but it has two shortcomings:
1. Doesn't have any sort of voice guidance
2. Doesn't reroute when you get off your path.
I've also found Google Navigator but after installing the trial version I found it to be very buggy and hasn't been updated for a few months now. Also costs $60! For that cost I can just go ahead an buy a dedicated GPS for about $40 more.
So I ask: Is there anything better in the works? Possibly an open(!) source project? Or a better presented and cheaper solution?
the best navigation software aren't free.. but there are workarounds obviously
try tomtom, or igo i love them
or try nav4all... free until 2010 and turn by turn voice direction
Hm Navi4all didn't seem to want to get any GPS sats, also seemed slow.
Nav N Go (IGo?) seems to be a european only product?
Tomtom looks like it might be worth its salt though
IGo is not European only...there is a North America version.... I love IGo after being turned on to it by a friend of mine (who also helped me with my first flash ---- props to Kareem9NBA).... text to voice, easy interface.
Before that, I used INav which I loved.....
I personally love tomtom. and its free if you know where to find it.
I'd go for Igo. I am from Europe and it has really good data even in eastern european countries, but TomTom is really good too. I think you should compare these two and just use the one that's faster/better for you.
Remember, we have PHONES that have GPS and you can't expect them to work like a GPS-only device. It's the same with the camera - no camera-phone performs as well as a standard digital camera (not even mentioning SLRs) and no GPS enabled phone will ever work as well as a GPS-only device. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I dunno....Garmin Mobile XT works pretty damn well on my fuze. My friend has a dedicated garmin and mine can do more than his can cause our phones have internet access.
And with the update to Garmin from their website, the POI database is just about never out of date - it includes a Google Search function to look up points of interest.
navigon ( http://www.navigon.com/site/de/de/products/navigation_software/windowsmobile_pda )
is excelent like tomtom - you have the possibility to check before you buy it (30 days)
+1 for Igo8 (from the company Nav N Go). European company, but when you use NavTeq's USA maps, works perfect.
Advantages are real TTS (Text to Speech) (i.e., speaks actual street names), 3D buildings in major cities, ability to add POI databases, logos show onscreen for POIs, etc.
A dedicated GPS does work a bit better. But how often do you have that in your pocket when you need it on the spur of the moment???
Depends on what works best for your phone really. Some programs will lag on one persons phone and then not lag at all on anothers....from what I've read around the forum anyway. I've tried a lot of GPS software and I can tell you that...
Garmin Mobile XT has a great UI and excellent maps. Very easy to use and works. Only problem is GPS lag (shows me about 200ft behind my actual position).
TomTom works great. I don't think the UI is anywhere nearly as nice as Garmin's or as user-friendly. But I hardly get any GPS lag using TomTom and if you can keep the maps updated then you should be just fine. This is what I use now.
I've tried IGO8 and Amigo. Amigo wouldn't find the built-in GPS on my phone but looked pretty nice. I didn't get a chance to test it out much because it wouldn't work, sadly....and I didn't feel like trying to make it work lol. IGO8 is great if you can get the right version. I think I had the EU version because I couldn't change KM/hr to M/hr and I was thoroughly annoyed by that. IGO8 did give a little lag, but not as bad as it was with Garmin. What turned me away from IGO was that damn KM/hr thing. I looked up how to fix it for a grand total of half an hour before I gave up and deleted it lol.
All that being said, I like TomTom. I would absolutely 100% delete TomTom and go with Garmin if I didn't experience the lag. It's just that annoying to me. But if you don't experience lag with Garmin I'd go with that.
another vote for igo
used tomtom on my wizard but I really like the UI on IGo on my serra, the custom skins that are available and the use of a sys.txt to set up a lot of preferences in the software. Lots of web resources out there for these things.
used EU and US mapping and found them both to be very good
you can add POI's in google earth kml format and the software converts them at start up - very handy but large numbers of POI's can course the software to have slow response times at start up
Does anyone use their GPS without a data connection ie: using stored maps? I tried to mess around with mgmaps for a few days but never got it to work.
eimerej77 said:
Does anyone use their GPS without a data connection ie: using stored maps? I tried to mess around with mgmaps for a few days but never got it to work.
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IGO will work without data connection (flight mode on). Obviously, you need to have the program AND maps on your phone. Tomtom will not do the same. Even though it does not need any data connection, it will not establish GPS connection in flight mode. It will work if you turn data or cell radio on, even if there is no connection available (i.e. another country). Not sure about other programs.
Hope that helps.
Mike
yeah perfect. I skipped the data plan (use the nodata cab), so I just use wifi when I can and was trying to find a way to get gps on the road, storing the maps on my micro sd card. I'll look in to it!
doctajay said:
I personally love tomtom. and its free if you know where to find it.
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yup... and yup
Where is TomTom free?
Hello,
Can anyone please let me know where I can find free TOMTOM Software/maps to download to my touchpro?
Thanks
Satish
Warez is not allowed on xda.
TomTom looks interesting however I don't think Navigator 7 has any USA maps (but their Navigator 6 does). Seems to be a product tailored more towards the European crowd

[REQ] Google Maps offline

Hi,
as I don't have mobile internet flat, but the manila contact tab does link someone's adress just to google maps,
I wondered whether there is some kind of offline google maps -
not satellite pics, just map and the ability to just download what you need ;-)
I found several applications, but just for other OS, not win-mo:
http://www.symbian60.mobi/2008/03/17/google-maps-karten-offline-benutzen/ (German, but you can use translators..)
http://www.joesonic.com/blog/2008/04/14/google-maps-offline-for-iphone/
http://www.mgmaps.com/cache/
best regards,
Buembel
P.s.: it would also be ok if someone found out how to link these adresses with another program as tomtom ;-)
mgmaps is actually java. there's a detailed tutorial on how to get it to work in winmo and how to download maps. It's a tedious process imo and it too kme something like weeks to finish downloading all road maps (with zoom up till level 18) for Singapore which is a very small country and not to mention when roads do change and you need to go though the whole process again?
It's gonna be wayy easier to use vector drawn maps like garmin or tom tom.
Yeah, just go with TomTom, iGO, etc.. Storing the Google Map data would take a LOT of storage space.
Hi folks,
Sorry if this sounds a bit rude Lately I have been seeing a lot of responses which digress from the intial post!
In this particular post, Buembel is asking for an offline Google Map solution. I am sure if he wanted TomTom, IGO, etc, he would have asked for GPS navigation.
The poster even went to the extent of doing some research on the topic and gave relevant links.
If anyone can help him in the quest, do so, else PLEASE DO NOT reply with other stuff.
Now coming back to the original post. Can anyone help port these apps for Windows Mobile?
MGMaps is not bad at all. It all depends on how much of the map and zoom levels you want for offline viewing. I build multiple cities with a 14-17 zoom. Play with it a little and you will get a hang of it. Between these 3 links I think you should get a fair idea of how to use it
http://forum.mgmaps.com/viewtopic.php?t=1816
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351001
http://forum.mgmaps.com/viewtopic.php?p=9929
It would take an incredible amount of memory to store all of GoogleMaps maps onto the phones device memory.and that the only way you gonna access it off line, like in garmin or tomtom you have to actually save the maps to your phone or SDcard memory.
Even then, using a third party solution (i.e. mgmaps) doesn't provide the Manila link-in the OP clearly referenced.
run.gps gives you the option of specifying a directory to download maps, but I couldn't figure out how to use the onboard maps instead of the internet.
Of course, I didn't spend much time reading, either.
JJ
you can try this program:
http://www.terracrosser.com/
You download on your PC home maps that interest you, move on to the ppc and see offline using the integrated gps of the phone.
I have used in different circumstances and for me it's ok.
Moved to Questions & Answers, as this is not software currently in development.
I have tried mgmaps but they didn't work well on my VGA screen. Terracrosser is quite tedious for me so I uninstalled it. looking forward to have a similar for myself as well.
rspillo said:
you can try this program:
http://www.terracrosser.com/
You download on your PC home maps that interest you, move on to the ppc and see offline using the integrated gps of the phone.
I have used in different circumstances and for me it's ok.
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That looks good. I'll play with it over the weekend.
JJ
I've never tried it but OSMTracker will download tiles from OpenStreetMap.com for offline use.
PDA Tilemanager could be used in conjuction with this to make the downloading quicker and easier.
I downloaded terracrosser and am downloading zoom levels 17/18/19 for Branson, MO. It will be nearly 10GB of and 350000 (yes 350 thousand) images.
JJ
Tracky and do what you want and currently it is available for 20% discount
why is it that when I click on terracrosser on my phone it never loads it? I soft reset many times, no idea what going on. I have installed many apps but this has never happened.
Any ideas?
It loads on my htc diamond, but it's very slow. If I remember correctly, I had to soft reset to close it.
JJ

ANY way to use Google Maps offline?

I've searched a LOT and couldn't find any method. There's terracrosser, but I find it's interface unusable. MGMaps in wonderful, but sadly doesn't support Google Maps. In my area, Yahoo/WLive maps suck. No comparision with google maps.
Is there ANY software available, free or paid, which can help me browse Google maps offile, and supports GPS?
Or, is there a hack/method to use Google Maps in MGmaps?
Thanks.
what a search would have given you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563296&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542142&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537546&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530898&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530117&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360075&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513094&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509561&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351128&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481803&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469033&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425720&highlight=maps+offline
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420418&highlight=maps+offline
Of course I've done that! But if you yourself go over the links, there's *no* solution. Either Terracrosser is being recommended (which I honestly hate), or the post is older, before the time when Google disallowed MGMaps to use GMaps.
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Of course I've done that! But if you yourself go over the links, there's *no* solution. Either Terracrosser is being recommended (which I honestly hate), or the post is older, before the time when Google disallowed MGMaps to use GMaps.
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I'd double the request. I also searched LOT and tried the solutions - even downloading the maps from google using different apps... still there comes a dead end with everything (getting banned, getting just one colossal map image etc)... a WORKING solution is missing
just to make sure then you do know what I posted was 13 links to 13
threads about your question not
just 13 links to the same thread
right ?
would be surprised if non of them had any type of helpful info
of cause if it don't HAVE to be google maps then there are many standalone
gps programs with offline maps out there from tomtom, garmin,......
Of course there is a way. Here is how to do it in three easy steps:
1 - Buy 49% of Google's shares and become a partner.
2 - Copy all your maps and software to a mobile server and put that into the trunk of your car (with the appropriate power supply of course).
3 - Attach a Router to the Server. You are done! Now you have a mobile wi-fi google maps setup that you can take anywhere with you! No need of annoying offline modes and such.
I hope this helps.
Really all of the posted topics were not helpful enough. My point is to have SATELLITE imagery of entire country (Estonia) @ the maximum zoom layer only (which vary according to area sometimes). I do not even care which program runs it. Just gps spot and OFFLINE data. I would be even happy with simple thing like terracrosser. The main problem is that the PC side downloaders get banned by ip (rarely), download one BIG useless image file or just unreadable data. And the handheld device apps use just a caching approach what makes it hard to understand what you have and haven't. Even Google/Global Navigator at its high price is not able to select the entire area. I'd be happy even with TRIAL Google/Global NAvigator!
I got it guys!
Use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351001.
Works PERFECTLY!
cyanide911 said:
I got it guys!
Use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351001.
Works PERFECTLY!
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I tried this solution but the map data were not downloaded completely. The data was incomplete. BTW... java. I know I know - it is usable but it still feels like running a virtual machine. Which actually is also happening.
Terracrosser does the thing actually but the user interface controls are catastrophically bad
Buy a map
search doesnt always find the answer, fyi

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