Is it possible to make winmo NOT shut off the data connection when it goes into sleep? I know it will be a battery drainer, but I use skype for business calls and I'd like to get at least a little bit of the battery saving from sleep (e.g. no lit up screen).
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So I still get about 2%-5% battery drain an hour with Juice Defender when I'm not even touching my phone. My understanding is that it shuts of your data and radio when the screen shuts off, and then reenables it when you "wake up" and turn on your phone screen again. This is unacceptable. This get's worse when I browse the internet and I lose 10-20% an hour doing this activity. I have to recharge almost 3 times in a day at coffee shops inorder for my phone not to die by the time I commute home on the bus.
I have noticed that this phone could be practical like the last generation of smartphones from 2007-2009 which browse the web, play games and videos, make calls and text and still hold a charge for 2-3 days, if there was a way to enable airplane mode but at the same time recieve calls.
I have auto airplane mode installed and it enables airplane mode when my screen shuts off, and then disables it when my screen turns on. Although I can't recieve calls my battery does not drain at all when I airplane mode is enabled.
So my questions are, what's the difference between Juice Defender and Airplane mode? What Data and radio does both turn off, since Juice defender still "bleeds" battery energy when the phone is not even touched, while airplane mode doesn't. And is there a way to auto enable airplane mode when it sleeps, yet still recieve incoming calls?
Airplane mode shuts down all modem and radio functions, which blocks calls, data, texts and wifi.. Everything.
Juice defender only blocks of data connectivity, disabling syncing, and all edge/3g/4g.
I'm not sure how much juice defender truly helps, but I definitely would use it instead of airplane mode where I lose every single call and text.
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How do you get 3-5% battery drain per hour on Juice Defender?
I get 1% drain in 6 hours with phone on standby which means I can still get phone calls and text.
There are 3 versions of Juice Defender (free, plus, ultimate). I am using the ultimate edition with the profile set to "Extreme" and all my apps configured in the "Configure apps" section. In the Extreme setting, my wifi and data is stopped when Juice Defender is enabled. I just disable Juice Defender when I need wifi or data.
Juice Defender doesn't work by itself after you just download the app. You have to go in and configure the settings.
I also use Advance Task Manager widget (JuiceDefender already unchecked from kill list of the application). before I turn off the screen of my phone.
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Hello my Friends.
Normally my Pre Plus on Idle mode from 12.00 AM to 3.00PM consumes 10%, Really I don't know how much I consume using it for play and calls, but I charge it every 3/4 day (6+6+6 Hours=18 Hours) Of use till my Battery drains completely. I have the next installed:
Patches: 38
App Installed: 34
Linux App: 13
Web Server running over 3G.
AV Harrier II: at Power Up Over-voltage 1.005Ghz
Bright solution:
This is most of the drain of the Battery sol. you should put this less than 40%, The Pre-/+/2 /Veer has Better bright than other Devices even in 20% tested by myself.
IM Solution:
Do not use the Stock IM because is like bugged or something like that, makes the battery drain 7% than normal drain.
Email Solution:
Receiving a mail every time you get it is not so good for the battery because is always attempting to the server, the solution for this is get Mail manually or every day.
Bluetooth and GPS:
Really I don't see much use for Bluetooth since on WebOS can not do File Transfer, but WebOS 2.x made a change and now we can use Keyboards, avoid turn the Bluetooth if you're not using it, and GPS turn it off, is other core of Battery Drain, just turn it off if you're using it and when you're done, OFF.
WiFi and 3G
Really I haven't see difference between two of this because really the 3G consumes more than WiFi but only if you're using the things I said before
Airplane mode, I never tested this but some people says that Battery drain less if you use this mode when you're going to sleep.
Hope this was helpfully,
Thanks and have a good day
can anyone help me how to fix this problem of mine in my HD7? I've been searching all this time but all i see is for HD2 battery tweaks thread..anyone?
A) Define "poor" battery life. Smartphones typically get half a day to three days, depending on usage and network quality. My HD7 typically gets about 16-40 hours, depending on whether I use it a bit more or less than normal. I leave it on the charger every night and never run out of battery now unless I'm playing games on it.
B) There are lots of things you can do. Turn off push email, and instead check only every few minutes. The HD7's screen may actually get a slightly better battery life on the "Light" theme (the backlight runs anyhow; darkening a pixel takes more power). Set the phone to turn off the screen earlier. Dim the backlight. Turn down the volume (especially if you listen to music).
C) There's a setting (added in Mango) called "Battery Saver" that does some of the changes mentioned above (some quite aggressively - for example, it turns off all automatic email sync). You could use it, or at least tell the phone to use it automatically.
D) Change your usage pattern. Games, GPS, and cellular data are all huge power hogs. Play fewer games (or only play them when plugged in, or play ones without lots of graphical effects, etc.). Don't leave GPS apps running; check them then back out. Don't stream music (although I do, through Zune Pass, and still get decent battery life for a smartphone), movies, etc.
E) Switch the data mode to 2G instead of 3G, at least most of the time. 3G is power-hungry, and often harder to get a signal through so the phone hs to use even more power. Turn WiFi on (yes, on, not off; it's more efficient than the cellular radio when transferring data) unless you have no usable WiFi nearby, in which case turn it off. WiFi automatically turns off when the phone's screen locks, so no need to worry about it using power constantly at idle.
you're absolutely correct! I've done all those steps..if i will define poor battery I'll say it easily drains. I only use my device for SMS and battery drops 5-10% in 1hr? sometimes when I'm charging it whole night and when i woke-up i see the light indicator that it is full charge but the battery indicator is not (86%) i don't know if my battery is defect or there's something wrong my battery calibration or indicator..this suck!
If the light was green (fully charged) but the indicator showed partial charge (I assume you're using something built-in, not the app? The app isn't totally reliable due to multitasking limitations), then you've got a defect. It's possible that it's in software, but much more likely to be in hardware - either the charging circuitry or, more likely, the battery.
to check the percent of my battery I'm looking at setting>battery saver. If its a software problem how could i fix it? Is there a tweak in registry that can make the battery last longer? I've tried different custom roms but only Eburon rom gave a 2 days life battery but when I flash my hd7 to latest Eburon my battery returns to its old state where its easily drain so flash it back to old version of eburon.
As the title asks, what is it? I know that turning off the screen with power button is not sleeping. I believe it is the state when it takes more than a second (lag) to unlock the screen. This means that the phone was in sleep state and I woke it up. But the question remains, that what is it? How and when is it activated? What happens when the phone is sleeping? Effect on battery (I believe it's positive)? The notifications like sms and call? Is only the screen asleep or are the other functions sleeping as well? Final question, Can I activate the sleep mode with the help of an application if it helps save the battery?
Note that I don't want to use battery saver apps because I don't want anything on my phone to stop. I paid for the whole phone, "including" gps, wifi and things like that. Smartphones are for us, we are not for smartphones.
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As the title asks, what is it? I know that turning off the screen with power button is not sleeping. I believe it is the state when it takes more than a second (lag) to unlock the screen. This means that the phone was in sleep state and I woke it up. But the question remains, that what is it? How and when is it activated? What happens when the phone is sleeping? Effect on battery (I believe it's positive)? The notifications like sms and call? Is only the screen asleep or are the other functions sleeping as well? Final question, Can I activate the sleep mode with the help of an application if it helps save the battery?
Note that I don't want to use battery saver apps because I don't want anything on my phone to stop. I paid for the whole phone, "including" gps, wifi and things like that. Smartphones are for us, we are not for smartphones.
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Technically; sleep mode starts the moment the screen is switched off. With the exception of applications which can prevent the phone from fully 'sleeping'. A good and obvious example is the music application which keeps the phone awake in order to play music.
There's really nothing special about sleep mode except that the phone will execute a lot more tasks together but less frequently in order to save power, so you're still able to receive all messages, emails, calls and all notifications (from apps). Applications can also be informed about the change in power state (awake to sleep and sleep to awake) and therefore change the way they behave.
The amount of sleep time the phone gets is dependent on the apps you have installed and the amount of emails, calls and other notifications you get. There isn't a way to enable 'sleep mode' with an application as it would make little difference if your display is on. Your display is the main cause of power consumption, as is true with all smartphones.
Battery Saver apps are dangerous, by killing apps they have a negative impact on the phone. If the application is needed, the phone will restart it and add to the CPU cycles. The same goes with memory freeing apps. GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi are there for when you need them. Keeping them on when they're not needed is a waste of the phone's resources. As the more CPU cycles they use, the more power they consume.
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Technically; sleep mode starts the moment the screen is switched off. With the exception of applications which can prevent the phone from fully 'sleeping'. A good and obvious example is the music application which keeps the phone awake in order to play music.
There's really nothing special about sleep mode except that the phone will execute a lot more tasks together but less frequently in order to save power, so you're still able to receive all messages, emails, calls and all notifications (from apps). Applications can also be informed about the change in power state (awake to sleep and sleep to awake) and therefore change the way they behave.
The amount of sleep time the phone gets is dependent on the apps you have installed and the amount of emails, calls and other notifications you get. There isn't a way to enable 'sleep mode' with an application as it would make little difference if your display is on. Your display is the main cause of power consumption, as is true with all smartphones.
Battery Saver apps are dangerous, by killing apps they have a negative impact on the phone. If the application is needed, the phone will restart it and add to the CPU cycles. The same goes with memory freeing apps. GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi are there for when you need them. Keeping them on when they're not needed is a waste of the phone's resources. As the more CPU cycles they use, the more power they consume.
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That's a good explanation
I have read about term "deep sleep" while searching for this, but the explanations on the internet are not clear to me. I have understood a part of it, that this state comes when phone is at rest for too long. The phone pauses apps and their processes, except those who are downloading e.g games and only does basic tasks such as incoming communications (message, call etc.) and sync. Again, I could not find answer to when it state/mode starts.
About GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi: I said this because I had seen people talking about how they have to force otherwise unnecessary restrictions on them and thus have to worry too much to save their batteries. This is what I don't like. Technology is made to facilitate people and to make their lives easy, that's what I believe. On the other hand, I always keep bluetooth off because I need it very rarely. Well, you may have other preferences but I have to keep gps on in order to geo tag photos and to make it ready whenever I open maps etc. Wifi according to me is life blood of smartphones. So I can't live without it either.
When I had Nokia 5800 I had to turn off auto rotate because its menu took time to refresh if I turned the phone by mistake. That was the time when I came to know how bad it feels to go through the settings to turn it on when I need it urgently.
Dear all
I would like save battery life on WiFi. Is there a way I can schedule WiFi on/off at certain interval? Example: Turn on WiFi for 1 minutes then turn it off for 10 minutes and repeat these 2 steps indefinitely.
There are several automation apps on the play store that should be able to do this but using an automation app will cause you problems. The problem will be that when you want to turn it on for an extended period of time it will turn off at the next interval, so you might be in the middle of something and then it turns off. Have you looked at how much battery your WiFi is using? Settings>Battery>(and for me I touch the battery at the top) It shows my battery usage, charging spikes, how long it's been since a full charge and below that everything that is using battery and at what percentage by group. i.e. Apps, Mobile network standby, System, Phone idle, Bluetooth and WiFi. My WiFi is on 24/7 and is currently sitting at 0% 6 hours after being taken off the charger. Just saying. Tasker is probably one of the best automation apps, but it's a paid app and has a bit of a learning curve. There are some that are simpler for free that will likely work.