Email uses Data connection and not Wifi - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Hi,
Ive setup my Hotmail account using Outlook but it uses a data connection to send/recieve emails, I want it to use the Wifi only as I dont have a data plan.
I cant seem to find a setting anywhere to make it use wifi only. When I click send/recieve my phone automatically makes a data connection :-(

You need to enter Comm Mgr. first, and press Data Connection (not OFF/ON )to enter Set up. press Advanced, then press Select Networks.
Well ,what I going to say is the point. If you don't hava a data plan now, you can choose the two selction with 'My work Network' . Now try again, see if you can use WIFI to send/receive the Email.
When you hava a data plan ,you can switch the first one(Programs automatically connect to the Internet) with 'My ISP'. And when you turn off WIFI, raphael will use the ISP network to send/receive Email automatically.

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unwanted gprs connection

i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
Yep i get that too and no idea why
duncan1976 said:
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
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I also see a G (or E) in the middle and at the right hand side. And yes, according the manual the icon in the middle means G (or E) is available and the icon at the right there is an ongoing connection. I'm not sure whether the connection is actually used. I think there is no traffic. But that still leaves the question what initiates a connection on your guys S710.
On my S710 after re-enabling the phone function I only see a G (or E) in the middle, but not at the right. Also after some minutes.
I think thats a bug, when I use the gprs I get the small G instead of the antenna in the upper right corner. When I disable gprs it's still there. Has to reboot to get rid of it.
check email settings
you may want to check email settings. if you have selected to check your email account every X minutes the connection will activate automatically. uncheck the box or choose "never" and see if it happens again.
nope - both email accounts set to never
iberico said:
you may want to check email settings. if you have selected to check your email account every X minutes the connection will activate automatically. uncheck the box or choose "never" and see if it happens again.
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Hello,
I noticed the same issue.
I had to perform a factory reset (Clear) to solve it.
I traced this issue to Microsoft Live Messenger, which tries to connect.
Hans
I wonder if there is anyway I can get it to prompt me before using the gprs?
Sometimes, while browsing, my wifi will cut out and start using my gprs. Which is why I would like my phone to ask me whether or not it can use gprs.
My old P900 always asked.
I'm currently looking if I can create a utility to do just that.
bump as I have the same issue...
most of the times I never realise that WIFi is gone and gprs has been activated.
There must be a way to ask us if we want gprs connection before actually activating it.....
Yep, same problem here. Sometimes I even disable "Phone" in Comm Manager and turn on "WLAN" just to be sure I'm surfing via my WiFi router, and not GPRS/EDGE.
You can always disconnect GPRS via the Comm Manager. Most programs have a setting weather to chose connection automaticaly or you can set it to wifi or gprs(like Internet Explorer)
CY42 said:
You can always disconnect GPRS via the Comm Manager. Most programs have a setting weather to chose connection automaticaly or you can set it to wifi or gprs(like Internet Explorer)
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That's the problem. The GPRS connection is active, but the GRPS in Comm Manager is disabled so you can't turn it off. I've seen some registry key changes that enable you to press the "red end call" key to stop the connection, but it soons resurrects itself and re-appears, and is still not enabled in Comm Manager to disable it.
I've not seen an option in Internet Explorer on the Smartphones to choose Wifi or GPRS, you just get "Internet", "Wap", "Secure WAP", "MMS", "Work". There is no option for Wifi only.
I been looking for a little program for a while now that prompts you when your Wifi connection has lost, and whether you want to continue with GPRS or not. So far, I've not found anything.
I've noticed programs such as Fring monitor such a connection and give you the option, but I would like to see something that is a seperate process and monitors the connection itself, and not just for one program.
duncan1976 said:
i have a problem with my s710...when i close pocketIE (from task manager) and stop gprs connection form comm manager, after few minuts the connection is up again! to stop this gprs connectin i must reboot my smartphone because in the comm manager wont work!
there is no other SW on my s710, so it's impossible that some program made che connection!
any idea?
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You can apply this regedit in the way to disconnect gprs/edge connection simply pressing red button:
to resolve this problem:
Go to: HKLM-->Comm-->ConnMgr-->Planner-->Settings-->SuspendResume
and delete ~GPRS! value.
This value was couseing phone to keep active gprs connection by any meanings.
When you delete it, red button will close the connection again
Found this one somewhere one month ago.
Tested: it works.
Same problem here.
I have seen this issue discussed on several different forums. Is it a WM6 bug?
i just leave my gprs connection setting not set up. When ever i try and connect without WIFI i cannot use GPRS. This means i cant connect to the internet unless i have availble WIFI but at least i wont get billed for un wanted GPRS
hoice said:
i just leave my gprs connection setting not set up. When ever i try and connect without WIFI i cannot use GPRS. This means i cant connect to the internet unless i have availble WIFI but at least i wont get billed for un wanted GPRS
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It´s sad Windows Mobile/HTC forces you to do these things just to prevent being charged withour your consent.
had to do the same thing, just deleted the whole gprs account ... I actually got billed for 214 "gprs connection" the last month, wich was very expensieve. This is actually a huge bug, hope someone will fix it soon.
Its a money eating bug!

Opera using 3G / EDGE?

I just signed up for a regular plan without the "data plan" meaning i dont get wireless internet. I plan on only using WiFi, but i just tried using opera, and typed in yahoo.com and it started to go to the site with wifi off.
How can i completely shut off internet except for wifi so i dont get charged!!!!
blahhh!
One way would be by going to Start / Settings / Connections (tab), press the Connections icon and then the link "Manage my existing connections" and ensure that no connections are set up. If there any just delete them.
A safer way would be to call your carrier and have them disable data on the account so it is their responsibility not yours. (had to do it for my son's phone)
Hi Here is an application
Hi Here is an application (cab) by installing it you can disable or able your GPRS/3G connection whenever you like.

Email can't switch between wifi or GPRS???

Hi, on my Polaris I've my Gmail account which updates itself through IMAP4.
I want the following: Wenn i have a WIFI connection the email will update through WIFI, without WIFI I want hem to automaticly connect with GPRS.
This is standard with internet explorer.
I allready found out that you can switch the connection manually: Mailoptions --> Adanced server options --> Network connection, then change it to internet or GPRS
Is there a way to do this by for example making a network connection which can use both???
Don't know too much about the topic itself, but maybe try a more advanced email program like Outlook?
SabbeRubbish said:
Don't know too much about the topic itself, but maybe try a more advanced email program like Outlook?
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? I use the standard email application on the Polaris which is outlook if i'm not mistaken.
heeleven said:
Hi, on my Polaris I've my Gmail account which updates itself through IMAP4....
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I'm still using my Hermes whith wm6, whith Outlook so there shouldn't be any real difference, but I haven't noticed the problem you're encountering. Whith WiFi on it uses it and when not, it uses GPRS/3G/HSDPA.
But then again, thw wifi network is set to connect to the internet, and the ISP settings are set to be automatically used.
gnick666 said:
I'm still using my Hermes whith wm6, whith Outlook so there shouldn't be any real difference, but I haven't noticed the problem you're encountering. Whith WiFi on it uses it and when not, it uses GPRS/3G/HSDPA.
But then again, thw wifi network is set to connect to the internet, and the ISP settings are set to be automatically used.
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Could you tell me your (basic) network options, the networdk which is selected can be found here: Mailoptions --> Adanced server options --> Network connection
heeleven said:
? I use the standard email application on the Polaris which is outlook if i'm not mistaken.
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Considering the fact that I got a 2-month free trial for Outlook, I doubt that the built-in email program is Outlook on the Polaris. Else, it would clearly state Outlook (M$ would not sell it anonymously , my guess )
heeleven said:
Hi, on my Polaris I've my Gmail account which updates itself through IMAP4.
I want the following: Wenn i have a WIFI connection the email will update through WIFI, without WIFI I want hem to automaticly connect with GPRS.
This is standard with internet explorer.
I allready found out that you can switch the connection manually: Mailoptions --> Adanced server options --> Network connection, then change it to internet or GPRS
Is there a way to do this by for example making a network connection which can use both???
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I use my e-mail account of my ISP.
When in range of my WLAN it uses WIFI else it will establish a connection with GPRS.
SabbeRubbish said:
Considering the fact that I got a 2-month free trial for Outlook, I doubt that the built-in email program is Outlook on the Polaris. Else, it would clearly state Outlook (M$ would not sell it anonymously , my guess )
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strange, becouse the programm is called 'outlook E-mail' it even has the same icon as it has on my desktop computer.
Aren't there any Polaris users who have the same problem??
If it is the software which email program do you suggest to use.
heeleven said:
Could you tell me your (basic) network options, the networdk which is selected can be found here: Mailoptions --> Adanced server options --> Network connection
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Yeah I can do that, 'The Internet', only two options are available in the specified menu, 'The Internet' and 'Work' nothing else.
And the default messaging app is Pocket Outlook since ancient times.
gnick666 said:
Yeah I can do that, 'The Internet', only two options are available in the specified menu, 'The Internet' and 'Work' nothing else.
And the default messaging app is Pocket Outlook since ancient times.
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Ok tanx, it seems that 'The Internet' is removed either by me or a programm, I was considering a hard reset for some other problems. (Activesync isn't working properly) so I think its the fasted way to solve this problem as wel.
heeleven said:
Ok tanx, it seems that 'The Internet' is removed either by me or a programm, I was considering a hard reset for some other problems. (Activesync isn't working properly) so I think its the fasted way to solve this problem as wel.
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After a hard reset still the same problem, the network connection selected for my IMAP mail is set to 'The Internet'
When connected to WIFI it will get my mail, when not, a pop up is displayed saying: Can't connect with current networkconfiguration. To change this configuration go to this link.
When I click the link I get connection configuration in which I didn't changed a thing.
I don't get it, doesn't anybody have the same problem as me.
Maby the new cooked ROM will help.
My Polaris configured automatically, I am not sure if it depends on the provider. I am using KPN.
It shows you the result during configuration.
Has yours completed normally?
I have had the same problem.
In Settings - Connections - Advanced - Select Networks - Choose there which connection u would like to use when device need to automaticly connect to the internet. I have there my GPRS Web settings and when i'm not on wifi it's using GPRS connection. When u have The internet there it cannot use it when u are not connected to it (when u are not on wifi).
DD_ said:
I have had the same problem.
In Settings - Connections - Advanced - Select Networks - Choose there which connection u would like to use when device need to automaticly connect to the internet. I have there my GPRS Web settings and when i'm not on wifi it's using GPRS connection. When u have The internet there it cannot use it when u are not connected to it (when u are not on wifi).
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Exactly, it's just weird that both type of connection can be used but you have to change it every time you want to use the other.
Which provider do you use??
---Alex--- said:
My Polaris configured automatically, I am not sure if it depends on the provider. I am using KPN.
It shows you the result during configuration.
Has yours completed normally?
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Currently i'm using Vodafone, but i'll switch to KPN in March, hopefully it will work properly then.
DD_ said:
I have had the same problem.
In Settings - Connections - Advanced - Select Networks - Choose there which connection u would like to use when device need to automaticly connect to the internet. I have there my GPRS Web settings and when i'm not on wifi it's using GPRS connection. When u have The internet there it cannot use it when u are not connected to it (when u are not on wifi).
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Simple stated, I can use both for e-mail and internet and WIFI get's priority over GPRS/UMTS when in WIFI range.
ok... I've had this same problem where my TC won't check email, windows live, etc through my wifi, despite being connected.
The reason is... my wifi connection was setup to say it connects to "work" as opposed to "the internet".
For those having the same problem as me, follow these instructions...
1) Click on start, settings, connections, then "wi-fi" icon
2) Press (hold down) on your wifi connection, and then click "edit".
3) change "connects to", to say "the internet".
4) Click next, next, and finish.
5) Close the settings menu and try again.
Worked for me!
PS... yes I know I'm a donkey for messing it up in the first place, but it's all good fun learning!
Same weird problem here now.
It use to work without problem. Wifi was preferred network.
When wifi not available, GPRS/UMTS (T-Mobile NL) was used. Since yesterday i'm not able to retrieve pop3 mail through G/3G anymore. Internet is ok and WindowsLive also no problem. Also pop3 mail through wifi is no problem.
I'm going to hardreset now.

[Q] How to force the phone to never use anything but wifi?

I sometimes uses the wifi connection to surf the web on my touch pro, problem is that the wifi reciver don't look to be very strong so sometimes I loose the connection, especially if I'm moving around.
I have found the program nodata, but it doesn't seem to work that well. Even if I activate nodata and have it running in the background while surfing the phone still connects to gprs/3g connection if the signal is lost. My guess is that if I click a link after I loose the wifi connection the phone seem to override the funtion of nodata. Is there any other software that I can use instead?
I want the phone to wait until a wifi connection is established again instead of changing to a 3g/gprs connection.
I'm not sure. Once I removed all the data connection settings, but then I couldn't use the data ever. I've been keeping an eye for a program that does this, but it seems that everyone under the sun other than me has a data plan.
hahaha yo are noy allone out there, I would alslo like to know how to disable data conection.
the answer - modaco nodata. Its not the neatest but the only one
EDIT: and also you can do this in Advanced Configuration Tool from "connections" menu item. If you want a more permament solution (because of the long way to the choise in the app)
All the apps I mention are really easy to google for
darfri said:
the answer - modaco nodata. Its not the neatest but the only one
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yes...nodata is the one you want.....just search and you shall find
Not sure if this helps but when I handed down my Hermes to my Father in Law just so he could use it for phone calls and TomTom (via BT GPS). I had AT&T block all data so he can only use wifi.
It works great! when his wifi is turned off and he tried to go to the web it says connection refused.
Thanks for the input guys, but nodata don't seem to help me. It's the software I use now, but it seems that somethign is able to override the nodata software leading the phone to dial up when the wifi connection gets a low signal.
I'll give the Advanced Configuration Tool a go, but it seems to be a lot of work going in there turning things off, just to go back and activate them again if I want to check my mail "in the field".
I have an at&t Fuze with no data plan, just unlimited text/mms. I cannot disable data by using Modaco's NoData because mms requires Media Net.
What I have done so that all apps use WiFi is the follows:
Under Start / Settings, select the Connections tab.
Launch Connections.
Select Advanced tab.
Click on Select Networks.
Under Network Management, change "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" to "My Work Network".
With this setting, I don't have Internet connection unless WiFi is active, which is what I want. Maybe the Touch Pro has something similar.
Thanks icwinner, that seem to have made the trick.

Question about connections.

Ok, my operator uses 2 different connection, one for data, and another for MMS. The problem is that when I receive new MMS, my device connects the data connection, and the MMS can't be downloaded through it. How can I configure my device to use the MMS connection for new MMS, and the other one for everything else.
i dont think it possible as this is set by the operator so you can be priced correctly
Actually this is quite common, my carrier also does this.
What you need to do in connections is have the data settings (for internet use etc) in the My ISP part and the MMS settings in the My Work Network section.
Then click advanced tab in connections. Ensure in the "programs that automatically connect to the internet.... says My ISP" and in the "programs that automatically connect to a private network...... says My Work Network".
This should work and does indeed work on both my devices.
I'll give it a try.
And yes, it's made to be taxed correctly, I have to be taxed for data connection, but not, when I'm receiving a MMS .

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