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5 days on a single charge? How can this be? :D

I'm in a really weird situation. Last weekend I've updated my raphael's ROM from the stock one to the localized one (same version tho). I didn't have time to install the apps what i need, so i did it on Monday. This means my phone was many times hanging on the usb cable because of active sync and so. When i finished the installations/setups i decided to charge the phone to 100% (it was already charged like 80%). It was like Thursday when i was wondering, why my phone still showing 51% of charge level. I checked the last sync date (and it showed monday) so i was ensured that that was the last charge also. Today (Saturday) it has still 23% remaining DDD Since Monday I had like 30 minutes or so talk time, 2 hours of music playback, several messages, a little bit of wifi, an hour of solitaire and i messed for a while with some programs (setting up after the rom update). I never turn the phone off during the nights. I know this isn't a hardcore usage, but still weird that the battery is still holding up. I bought the phone right after the European premiere (19th of august if i remember correctly), and i can't recall a longer battery life like 2-3 days with the same usage like this week.
Did anything like this happen to anyone else?
I'm curious what will happen after the next charge

I've had the same experience installing the ROMeOS² rom; battery life had suddenly increased from ~1 day to 4-5 days. Can't explain why, but hey, I don't really care.

Upquark said:
I've had the same experience installing the ROMeOS² rom; battery life had suddenly increased from ~1 day to 4-5 days. Can't explain why, but hey, I don't really care.
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May I know which version of ROMeOS you were using?
Thanks

hi!i have standard HTC rom. Maybe someone can deliver list of running services and background apps in ROMeOS². I will compare with this in standard rom. Maybe I kill some services and it will work longer ?

This one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426099
List of services is in the post, all you had to do was look in the ROM section.

battery life. With which ROM they lives longest?

With Energy standart from 17Sep09- it took 5 hours until full discharge...

Impossible... check Radio or Rillphone...

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With Energy standart from 17Sep09- it took 5 hours until full discharge...
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wow thats hillarious...
my 16 sept 09 build need about 2 days to fully discharge..
backlight is set to auto
3g off
data connection only if needed
and of course matching rillphone and Radio...
what with u?

You cannot measure a ROM's battery life performance by installing a ROM and seeing how long it takes to die. The device needs time to calibrate. About 1 week of normal usage minimum. After I flash a ROM, I'll sometimes get 5-12 hours on the first charge. After a week I get typically 48-72 hours per charge. This is with screen at full brightness, 3g/data on, lots of txt and calls etc. This has been my experience with all of NRG's ROMs. I do install the recommended radio, no need to mess with rilphone.dll if you are using Energy ROMs with the recommended radio.

With TAEL rom and 1.11.25.01 I was at 71% after 3 days of liberal usage. I am trying NRGZ's latest build now but TAEL's ROM has been by FAR the best I have ever used. I haven't left NRGZ since I got my Fuze 6 months ago, and TAEL instantly switched me. Battery life is much better, the ROM is better in every category. I recommend TAEL, with ENERGYRom a close second.

I get exactly 24 hours from full charge to less than 10%.
3G always on
Data connection always on
a few phone calls, a few texts, light data usage (web, rss, email, maps)
Using latest EnergyROM
I can get 1.5~2 days maximum if I turn 3G off, data off, and further limit data usage.
This phone is just extra bad with battery life in general. Even with the stock ATT rom I wasn't able to get more than 2 days.

am I the only one that uses a cradle charger with an extra battery and not care about batt life.
I care more about the quality of the rom.

unashamed said:
am I the only one that uses a cradle charger with an extra battery and not care about batt life.
I care more about the quality of the rom.
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nah, I would also prefer a newer/better performing ROM at the expense of battery life (which isn't always the case). As long as it last me throughout the day im fine.

Battery life is also highly dependant on geography. When I'm in the country (with coverage at all) the battery runs much quicker.

These are all subjective matters and opinions. You can not compare the use that each one makes and where each one makes it. Too many variables. The time it takes to discharge does not mean anything, or it says very very little to the other person.
It would be interesting if someone conducted a benchmark with some metrics to evaluate what each ROM consumes and where does the power goes (which apps, backlight, ...).
Maybe one day we can have a standard benchmark, maybe a simple thing, which can be used by the chefs when they release their ROMs, or by someone else, and that gives results that we're able to compare.
Perhaps someone who is reading this, is willing take this challenge and develop such a benchmark. That would be great.

ewuzh said:
I get exactly 24 hours from full charge to less than 10%.
3G always on
Data connection always on
a few phone calls, a few texts, light data usage (web, rss, email, maps)
Using latest EnergyROM
I can get 1.5~2 days maximum if I turn 3G off, data off, and further limit data usage.
This phone is just extra bad with battery life in general. Even with the stock ATT rom I wasn't able to get more than 2 days.
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I generally get the same usage with 3G and Data set to "always on", gps daily and maps. I can go a full 24-36 hours routinely and over the weekend if i'm not on the phone a full two days. I'm a flash ***** so i've had this on several ROMS including Energy and NATF.
I always use the ril with the appropriate radio, but accidentally used the 1.12.25.19 ril with radio 1.14.25.35 with great success... In doing this I was getting super battery life immediately....
But at the end of the day you need to find what combo works for you, what may be great for me in Atlanta may totally suck butt in San Diego or anyplace else for that matter. So test test test and report back...

i can only suggest this: LevelSightSvc.1.0.3.2.CAB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446434
install, go to power settings, disable SO auto adjust, and set the slider in the position u like (i usually set the 3rd step from the left).
LevelSightSvc fully replace the system autolight with HUGE improvement of my battery life.
Try it.

There are lots of things to take into account with battery life. Your radio can play a huge role as well as the base build the rom was built on. Then the various settings and apps suckle the battery tit also.
I put my phone on a charger every night before I go to bed since I use it as an alarm clock too. I usually have 60-70% left over with some light GPS, full brightness, a dozen texts and 5-6 calls. I don't know how accurate that is since I'm a chef and flash my phone 5-6 times a day. The latest one I've used for a while and seems nice.

there's a prog from nueROM called nueDynamicClock which underclocks your cpu when it's on standby or when the screen is off. it will increase your batt life significantly if your phone is on standby for long periods of time..

I agree with some of the others.
I am currently using EnergyRom Genesis build 09-20-09 (1.14.25.05 radio) and my battery doesn't run out that quickly. I recently did a stress test (as a comparison to a Nokia E71 I own) and the phone went roughly 5 hours before it hit 10%.
However, take my usage into consideration:
1) 3G always on
2) Heavy data usage (Youtube, Internet Radio, web surfing, etc)
3) Receiving text and emails
Obviously, that is very heavy usage, and will naturally drain the battery, but it took five hours to do so. By comparison, if I had just use it normally, it would last roughly 1.5 days.

[Q]Mango Battery Life?

All right, so here's the big question. Okay, one of the big questions. For all yous who have DL'd and installed the Mango beta, how's the battery life?
I have a NoDo'd DVP and I generally can get 9 and a half to 12 and a half hours on a single charge depending on what I'm doing. Games being the biggest battery vampire I've found, thus far. Streaming vid a close second (perhaps tied).

Can't tell any difference. Never been an issue on my Arrive. It says I have 16 hours left(with battery saver kicking in if it gets critically low), and it has been 12 hours since my last charge.
I play a few games a day. Some web. Music. Testing of Mango features. Getting features to work. Lot's of texts. And my 3 email accounts syncing frequently.
I do have wifi disabled as that was preventing speech recognition from connecting to MS servers for some reason. So that may have improved battery life a little.

Good to know. Figured it would be about the same. The real test is how it will do once the LTE/HSPA+ devices hit.

I'm actually noticing better battery life. I definitely have been playing with the phone a lot since Mango, even more than normal, and the battery has been pretty awesome so far. Course its not scientific, but it appears that I'm getting more hours out of it than pre-Mango.

I think it's better in Mango but it's hard to say how much and if any better at all. If I had 2 windows phones I'd love totest it to find out.
Anyway I'm really happy with mango, I have to stop using facebook chat or I'll not get any work done today!

the battery life is better,just remember that multitask is in now
In previous version you don't have it

In my situation (lg optimus 7) battery life seems a little bit shorter than NoDo...
I turn on the phone in the morning (8-9 am) and I've to plug in for charge at night (11pm-12am)..
I've 2-3 live tiles active in the home screen... with NoDo i Could permform 1 and a half day of usage... I think this is a mango bug, or my battery just need a recalibration for the new O.S.
I'll check it in the upcoming days

I feel like my battery life has gotten worse, but I have 4 live tiles running and facebook chat on, although I had the same on my nodo device save facebook chat. And I think the battery saver option basically just allows you to turn the feature off. Wasn't the whole stopping push notifications done automatically in nodo when the battery was low? Now you just have to option to disable and kill your battery faster.

Hmm, I too have the feeling the battery life is worse. I just recharged to 100% and battery saver says I have 23 hrs left. After 1 hour without doing anything I have 80% (17 hours) left . I turned on airplane mode and disabled location now to see if it's getting better.

I also feel the battery life got worse. However, remember this is a debugged build, it's logging alot more as you are using it and I'm sure there's still alot more optimizations to go.
With that being said, I'll gladly take 2-3 days instead of 3+ days on a single charge for the features added. For those only getting 12+ hours, somethings wrong with your phone. There's not that much more getting executed vs NoDo until more devs take advantage of background services and live tile updates.

Hmm, yeah maybe my battery is quite exhausted already. I use the phone daily listening to music at the train, playing a game or two and browsing. That is, I recharge every single night and sometimes again in the afternoon. So I guess I have recharged the phone ~300 times since I purchased it last year.

Overall, better. I did opt for the 1800mah battery for my Trophy and it did help a little (keep the OEM one always charged, just in case). I think it works better

Its quite a bit better for me. I can usually go through a full day with battery saver generally kicking in near the end of the day (9-10pm). Bluetooth headsets for music does kick it down a bit but not terribly, usually my BT headset runs out before my phone.
Focus/mango.

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Its quite a bit better for me. I can usually go through a full day with battery saver generally kicking in near the end of the day (9-10pm). Bluetooth headsets for music does kick it down a bit but not terribly, usually my BT headset runs out before my phone.
Focus/mango.
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Interesting, I knew back in WM 6.5 using a BT headset would take a 12 hour battery and make it last no more than 6 and that was if you didn't talk on the phone much.
Is Bluetooth better with WP7 where it's a very minor battery loss ? ( might pick up a new bt headset)

Mine is better. But only slightly. Eg. 45min to 1 hr better.
I'm using a Focus

cohowap said:
I also feel the battery life got worse. However, remember this is a debugged build, it's logging alot more as you are using it and I'm sure there's still alot more optimizations to go.
With that being said, I'll gladly take 2-3 days instead of 3+ days on a single charge for the features added. For those only getting 12+ hours, somethings wrong with your phone. There's not that much more getting executed vs NoDo until more devs take advantage of background services and live tile updates.
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how do u know that its doing logging??

if yr sim card is more than 2 years old y will experience battery drain

There is definitely a bug in battery saver

There are to things to think about: The first one is that we have update our phones to Mango, but not the manufacturer so we have old drivers with new OS. And the second is that at least I, i've been so far 8 months with my HTC Trophy so the battery also losses capacity (mAh) in this time. In 1 year usually a battery only has 80% of its original capacity.

I have actually feel the better battery life.

Battey Life Thread

LET'S MAKE A BETTER BATTERY LIFE FUTURE FOR ALL​
I thought I would start this thread for our phone. I have the AT&T HOX, but any carrier that uses the msm8960(Snapdragon S4 Dual Core
chip) should participate. Sorry Tegra 3, different chips different, battery concerns.
Basicly, I just wanted a place where everyone could
report there battery life, things there doing to get it(if good or bad), and fixes or ideas to increase battery life. This way everyone can
benefit from others knowlage and experiance.
I personally just got my HOX as a replacement for my broken SGSII, and as it is a
refurbished device, I am having a few concerns. One being that my battery life is horrible. Its been on average draining between 20
-30%/hr. So, at the advice of another member I got the better battery stats app and checked it out and found that HTCDm was the
process preventing my phone from going into deep sleep(better battery Stats has pretty good documentation as to how to use it, if you
choose to use this app just read the documentation. It is short but precise). Upon further investigation I found that that process was the
one that checks for firmware updates and throws the message about "there's an important update for your phone". I didn't want it
yet(because of the no root issue on 2.20 and I haven't unlocked yet because I want to make sure that everything is okay with this phone
before I void the warranty). I'm not sure what else HTCDm does besides the firmware update check, but I froze it anyway with TiB and it
drastically increased my battery life as my phone now properly goes into deep sleep. :laugh: But all is not perfect yet, as my phone still
drains at about 20 – 30% per hour when the screen is on:crying:. I'm not sure if it is a battery issue and I am about to call AT&T right now
about it (it really sucks that they can't send me a new battery because it is not removable). But that is just me. If anyone has any
suggestions for me, I would love to hear them.
:fingers-crossed:SO EVERYONE PLEASE POST: :highfive:
YOUR BATTERY LIFETIME
ANY PROBLEMS YOU'RE HAVING WITH BATTERY LIFE AND NEED HELP WITH
ANY PROBLEMS YOU'VE HAD AND THE STEPS YOU TOOK TO CORRECT THEM
ANY PARTICULAR APPS OR TWEAKS YOU'VE USED TO INCREASE BATTERY LIFE
(OPTIONAL\IF YOU CHOOSE)
NUMBER OF APPS YOU HAVE INSTALLED (ESTIMATE)
GENERAL NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS AND THEIR SYNC SETTINGS
WI-FI AND DATA SETTINGS (AND ANY TASKER PROFILES USED WITH THESE, ETC.)
ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF OR WISH TO LIST
P.S. You can Post more than 1 vote in the poll, 1 for normal use and 1 for heavy us. This should give us a good idea of the average battery life across all sorts of roms, kernels, setups, ect.

"TiB"?

Root and don't use a sense rom. Sense is okay, but it drains battery a lot (has been improved with 4.1 but still...). Also get rid of or freeze apps you don't use and/or don't need.
Oh and TiB stands for Titanium Backup I'm assuming.
I'm on 2.20 which I got new, and I disabled as much bloatware as I could. I can go a day from 100% in the morning to ~8:00 with 50% left. I use my phone for browsing XDA, texting, and playing a game or two. I consider it okay battery life, and I'm on stock! Trying flashing a different rom and see how the battery life goes.

We should do a poll with screen time instead.
Mine is 2-3Hr screen time (auto brightness) with heavy usage.
Total time on charge varies from 4 hours to 24 hours.

Already a thread exists for battery stats http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612612
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Hey rye-rye! Stopped reading after the second paragraph because I realized this is redundant B.S. but thanks for the incentive. We already have a battery stats thread. :beer:

OOPS!
Sorry that, Isert and could not find one nor did it find one I was creating this thread. I was actually just coming back, because I just got the chance, to update the OP post with a much more detailed breakdown of what I was expecting from the thread and also I was going to delete out all of the stuff about my replacement and yada yada yada because I managed to get all of that fixed and Done and not only that I was also going to post in detail my success story of how I went from 3 to 4 hours battery life to on average 9 hours with moderate use. And as of yesterday I set my all-time record with 6 hours and 5 min. to go from 100% down to 6% battery left. What's that you say? That's not very good for your all-time record! And you would be correct but I haven't told you yet that I was actually on the phone with the screen on using it to make phone calls surf the Internet on Wi-Fi and LTE as well as running various apps downloading new apps and checking them out. So in total the on-screen time was around 5 hours and 45 min. with about 15 min. of sleep. so is the official battery. The one that I just saw on the 1st page that says "battery stats XL", I believe? If so I'll just make my post in that one.

Question Battery life terrible after latest patch?

Anyone experiencing poor battery life after this latest patch?
My mobile network battery is very high and I'm on wifi.
Ideas?

The latest patch as in the one that released today? If so, high usage is normal for a few days. If it's the update from last month, you might consider a factory reset and setting all your apps up from scratch. Time consuming for sure but gives you a clean slate with the battery.

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The latest patch as in the one that released today? If so, high usage is normal for a few days. If it's the update from last month, you might consider a factory reset and setting all your apps up from scratch. Time consuming for sure but gives you a clean slate with the battery.
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I concur with this assuming you're on the May update which only just was released. I'd be patient and report back after a few days at least.

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The latest patch as in the one that released today? If so, high usage is normal for a few days. If it's the update from last month, you might consider a factory reset and setting all your apps up from scratch. Time consuming for sure but gives you a clean slate with the battery.
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I just updated to the April patch due to a rooting error and reinstalled from scratch. Phone was fine prior to that.
Guess I'll just update to the newest one and see what happens? The strange thing is the high mobile network battery usage

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I just updated to the April patch due to a rooting error and reinstalled from scratch. Phone was fine prior to that.
Guess I'll just update to the newest one and see what happens? The strange thing is the high mobile network battery usage
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If you just set your phone up from scratch, you have to give it a few weeks to learn your usage patterns.

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If you just set your phone up from scratch, you have to give it a few weeks to learn your usage patterns.
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I understand. Reason I posted is this is new behavior that didn't happen previously combined with the culprit being mobile network battery drain. Appreciate your responses

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I understand. Reason I posted is this is new behavior that didn't happen previously combined with the culprit being mobile network battery drain. Appreciate your responses
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Yep, this is what I see too, I posted the pics in another forum and got a number of "that's odd" comments, where my overnight drain due to the mobile radio was crazy-high (this happened back in the Nov timeframe, fixed with the Jan update, and started again with March, pretty consistent, for me).
I typically charge in the AM, wirelessly, while I catch up on emails and such, so the phone had light use all day, and the bulk of the discharge was from 12A until around 9A, when it was not in-use.
We're located in a suburban area with very strong LTE and decent 5G towers all nearby, with (almost) always very low (e.g. "good") dBM signal values, for the mobile radio.

I flashed the April update as soon as it was released. I have also noticed that my battery life has been a bit worse on the April update.
Furthermore, I also root my phone. However, I always do a full wipe and fresh install with each update. So, I can confirm that there does indeed seem to be a potential battery drain issue on the April build. And as you have stated, I believe that it has something to do with the mobile data scanning. However, when I stay connected to WiFi, my battery doesn't drain as quickly as it does when I turn WiFi off.
Regardless, the May update has released today and so I'll likely be updating to that tonight to see whether or not this faster battery drain issue continues.
*Edit* - The May update - although only running on my device for around 12 hours - does seem to have improved that battery drain issue that was visible on the April factory image. However, this mobile data battery issue could very well be a result of Google pushing out all of these carrier service updates. Of which, they are presumably doing so in order to test the stock OS setup for their two new devices that will be launching within the next month: the Pixel 7A and the Pixel Phold. Therefore, if carrier service testing was the culprit of this issue, then I wouldn't be surprised if we see this issue pop up again due to further mobile data stability/reliability testing.
*Edit 2* - May update was installed for a few days. My battery life is MUCH better. It is essentially how it was prior to the April update.

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Yep, this is what I see too, I posted the pics in another forum and got a number of "that's odd" comments, where my overnight drain due to the mobile radio was crazy-high (this happened back in the Nov timeframe, fixed with the Jan update, and started again with March, pretty consistent, for me).
I typically charge in the AM, wirelessly, while I catch up on emails and such, so the phone had light use all day, and the bulk of the discharge was from 12A until around 9A, when it was not in-use.
We're located in a suburban area with very strong LTE and decent 5G towers all nearby, with (almost) always very low (e.g. "good") dBM signal values, for the mobile radio.
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Did you find any fixes? i updated to the May build and the issue is even WORSE. Phone idle for last two hours after full charge, down 12% already from mobile wifi data. Its literally sitting screen off burning 6% per hour

four hours of on time after full charge. 15% battery discharge - done by mobile network....ive been on wifi the whole time.
what gives?

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Did you find any fixes? i updated to the May build and the issue is even WORSE. Phone idle for last two hours after full charge, down 12% already from mobile wifi data. Its literally sitting screen off burning 6% per hour
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On the AndroidCentral forums a user referenced an actual Google support thread (which had been locked, interestingly), where they had supposedly been told, by support, to revert to 3G.
That's sort of tough to believe though, if you ask me, given the fact most carriers in Google's largest Pixel market sun-setted 3G some time ago (my carrier, TMo, did it last summer, not that I cared much, but I was tracking things).
I'd say they might have confused 3G/4G-LTE, except that they specifically called out moving from 5G/4G-LTE -> 3G, weird, eh?

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four hours of on time after full charge. 15% battery discharge - done by mobile network....ive been on wifi the whole time.
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I would bet this is because the algorithmic calculation is done based on carrier-type use, which would involve pretty much any interrupts regarding phone/sms/rcs.
My guess anyway, I tried this too, one night, and saw a similar deal.

Whatever the cause may be, it's software related and it's very aggravating. Phone was fine a few days ago

I had the same problem with the April update. due to a change of contract i now only have lte, no more 5g. Since then the battery has held up like it used to.

I have to wonder what some people are doing to make their phones...or batteries...so awful?
I have the latest May, 2023 update installed. I happened to sideload the OTA instead of waiting but I do not think that makes any difference in the end. However, the very first thing I noticed was that everything seemed a little smoother??? (placebo effect??)
The very next thing I noticed was battery life...mine improved exponentially and it wasn't bad before the update!
For example I removed the phone off of the Google wireless charger around 5 AM, then I used it on Android Auto for a round trip of about 33 miles, and when I got home (four hours off the charger) I was STILL AT 100% Hand-of-God!
When I went to bed around 9:30 PM (yes, I'm getting old) the phone was at 90%...honest to GOD again!
Looked at the battery again around 6 AM and it was at 85%. The phone was on all night with DND activated, but everything else active.
I can only guess that one of two things are happening here...either some of you have installed crap-apps that have hosed your phones, or.....you have defective phones/batteries.
YMMV

I haven't noticed much of a change with the battery after applying the March update, purposely left the phone off the changer overnight with battery at 100% (12am) - looked at the phone at 6am and percentage was down to 97%.

Whatever the cause may be, it's software related and it's very aggravating. Phone was fine a few days
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I have to wonder what some people are doing to make their phones...or batteries...so awful?
I have the latest May, 2023 update installed. I happened to sideload the OTA instead of waiting but I do not think that makes any difference in the end. However, the very first thing I noticed was that everything seemed a little smoother??? (placebo effect??)
The very next thing I noticed was battery life...mine improved exponentially and it wasn't bad before the update!
For example I removed the phone off of the Google wireless charger around 5 AM, then I used it on Android Auto for a round trip of about 33 miles, and when I got home (four hours off the charger) I was STILL AT 100% Hand-of-God!
When I went to bed around 9:30 PM (yes, I'm getting old) the phone was at 90%...honest to GOD again!
Looked at the battery again around 6 AM and it was at 85%. The phone was on all night with DND activated, but everything else active.
I can only guess that one of two things are happening here...either some of you have installed crap-apps that have hosed your phones, or.....you have defective phones/batteries.
YMMV
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did you read the post or just decide it was user error b/c your battery life is fine right now?
There were multiple pictures posted of the mobile network battery drain which has been documented elsewhere and confirmed by another user in the thread.
Battery life was great until the April update then the mobile network drain started which hasn't been corrected by multiple updates and full wipes.

mikebb00 said:
I haven't noticed much of a change with the battery after applying the March update, purposely left the phone off the changer overnight with battery at 100% (12am) - looked at the phone at 6am and percentage was down to 97%.
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that's how mine was previously

May update. Great as usual. Avg 6-7hrs SoT (which am happy with, consider i have 8 running app services and near 24h vpn)

stslimited84 said:
Battery life was great....
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Well, I wouldn't go THAT far....