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NANDROID RESTORE WITHOUT FASTBOOT?? - does it really work?

ok so im confused. I was reading the "how to flash cupcake" thread and came across this post by ridli. i tried following the instructions below but they failed, it seems like it works for him. if this truly works then there is no need for fastboot to reflash a nandroid back up. please help. thnx. BTW dudes .8 G build is awesome. (posted from my G1-modded w/root and gloss suite theme)
I tried the below on my G1 using recovery mode from JF-RC33 and i get:
error opening /sdcard/bu/system.img: no such file or directory.
I have checked the sdcard and its there, please help.
ridli said:
You can do the same without linux or any other SO.
1) Download cupcake
2) copy IMG files to a DIR in your SDCARD
3) reboot the phone in recovery mode
4) press ALT+X for go to console
5) #mount -a (for mount all partitions, without this you dont have flash_image becouse it is in /system/bin/)
6) use flash_image for flash the partitions
Code:
#flash_image system /sdcard/<dir>/system.img
#flash_image boot /sdcard/<dir>/boot.img
#flash_image userdata /sdcard/<dir>/data.img
7) #reboot
Optional: Do a backup of the phone with nandroid from the recovery mode, this do a img of system, data and boot partitions of your phone and copy to your sdcard. If you have any problem you can reflash your phone with you img.
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It didn't work for me either, but it said I could not remount system as r/w because it was busy.
Anyway, I find instructions on how to do it via PC a lot easier. And if your phone would not boot, and you are stuck without backup, you can always pull it with adb.

Karolis:
System shouldn't be busy in recovery mode... also, it shouldn't be mounted if you're trying to write a fs image
And... no, if your phone can't boot, it can't boot. That includes starting adbd.
If you can enter recovery/spl, it's booting just fine.
flak0:
Have you checked the sdcard from the shell in android, or from your computer?
If it's the latter, you should make sure you can access the file from android.
I would recommend that you copy the flash_image binary out of /system (and /data), because you're rewriting that partition

Okay, don't use the forums when on a bad connection... my browser thought it lost connection, and decided to refresh, and send my post again... *Looks for a delete button*

this does not work
just so everyone is clear
DOES NOT WORK!
Note To Self, do not follow tutorials from junior members

arteshiftedscreen said:
this does not work
just so everyone is clear
DOES NOT WORK!
Note To Self, do not follow tutorials from junior members
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Ummmm actually this does work if you do itcorrectly. Note to self no bashing people that are just trying to help.

so how is it done?
korndub said:
Ummmm actually this does work if you do itcorrectly. Note to self no bashing people that are just trying to help.
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And could a Gscript or similar be written to do something like this? I'd be psyched to have the option to restore my phone on the fly. And of course, if you could do that, what would stop you from having a Nandroid restore point saved for a number of different builds? I would love that.

Out of curiosity, and I've never tried this method myself, are you just entering the following exactly?
#flash_image system /sdcard/<dir>/system.img
#flash_image boot /sdcard/<dir>/boot.img
#flash_image userdata /sdcard/<dir>/data.img
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Or are you changing <dir> to the directory of your nandroid backup? Because if you aren't it certainly won't work.

ei8htohms said:
And could a Gscript or similar be written to do something like this? I'd be psyched to have the option to restore my phone on the fly. And of course, if you could do that, what would stop you from having a Nandroid restore point saved for a number of different builds? I would love that.
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But it would be very unsafe to flash a fs image when the partition is actually mounted and your gscript is probably in it.
the only way is to do it in recovery mode.
one little problem though: i copied flash_image to /cache and chmod, but the shell kept telling me no such file. why is that?

billc.cn said:
But it would be very unsafe to flash a fs image when the partition is actually mounted and your gscript is probably in it.
the only way is to do it in recovery mode.
one little problem though: i copied flash_image to /cache and chmod, but the shell kept telling me no such file. why is that?
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flash_image is a binary, should not be moved. why did you move it to cache? of course it wont work...

Unfortunately, flash_image does not support writing yaffs2 images. Look in the code, there's no support for writing the OOB data to the NAND. If it was possible I would've integrated backup AND restore in nandroid 2.0, and JesusFrekes recovery image would then also have a restore option. But alas, it's not to be.
Perhaps in a future release I can find a C coder who can add the code to the flash_image source, so that this becomes possible. But I'm not even sure if that can be done (because you need kernel driver support as well).

infernix said:
Unfortunately, flash_image does not support writing yaffs2 images. Look in the code, there's no support for writing the OOB data to the NAND. If it was possible I would've integrated backup AND restore in nandroid 2.0, and JesusFrekes recovery image would then also have a restore option. But alas, it's not to be.
Perhaps in a future release I can find a C coder who can add the code to the flash_image source, so that this becomes possible. But I'm not even sure if that can be done (because you need kernel driver support as well).
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Can't we just use nandwrite from mtd-utils to do this? I haven't tried it yet (I'll build it for ARM when I get home from work), but it appears to be the right tool for the job. I'm really interested in getting a menu-driven restore in my recovery image.

cyanogen said:
Can't we just use nandwrite from mtd-utils to do this? I haven't tried it yet (I'll build it for ARM when I get home from work), but it appears to be the right tool for the job. I'm really interested in getting a menu-driven restore in my recovery image.
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Oh that would be sooooooooo sweet!

How to emulate cooked rom?

Hello.
I cooked a rom with some changes and my question is... How can I try it? I know there's a metod to emulate roms, but I want to check if the update.zip is signed correctly, so what I want is to emulate recovery or fastboot, but I can't.
Somebody knows how to do it?
Thanks.

realjumy said:
Hello.
I cooked a rom with some changes and my question is... How can I try it? I know there's a metod to emulate roms, but I want to check if the update.zip is signed correctly, so what I want is to emulate recovery or fastboot, but I can't.
Somebody knows how to do it?
Thanks.
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should be moved to Q&A
but i have the same questions i went through everything emulator related on the android site and through the command line help functions and i got as for as creating a sysdir image and i got stuck where you do the kernel image .....

I only found this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/g...p-and-running-a-full-rom-with-the-market-etc/
But I can't enter in bootloader or fastboot with [Home Key], [Back Key], o [Menu Key] While it's loading.

what SDK are you using (HUGE DEAL)
if your using the latest SDK have you precompiled your AVD profile (android virtual device) see http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/avd.html#creating
if you have compiled your AVD and pointed your emulator at the correct AVD profile
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/emulator.html
if your booting an actual update.zip youll have to flash do a NAND dump of the phone and copy your NAND files to your pc and boot those through your emulator to ensure it runs correctly
(i only say this because i dont know if its possible to enter recovery mode straight from the emulator)
you place your system.img and your AVD stuff in the same folder
9. Copy the above file (referring to system.img{which would be the dump of your /system folder in a img format} to the location of the enhanced.avd directory ('C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\.android\enhanced.avd' on Windows XP, and 'C:\Users\<user>\.android\enhanced.avd' on Windows Vista).
10. You're ready! Type 'emulator -avd enhanced' to run! Note: inital boot may take a few minutes!
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::::EDIT:::::
if you did have success making an AVD or know where i can find some premade profiles for the HTC Magic/Dream lmk
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i just gotta finish downloading my JDK and i can get it to boot
does anyone know how to compile a system.img from just my /system folder or in essence can the /system folder just be booted without having to compile it into system.img format?

Zarboz said:
does anyone know how to compile a system.img from just my /system folder or in essence can the /system folder just be booted without having to compile it into system.img format?
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I may be dead wrong, but you can extract a .img file to the system folder contents by unyaffs-ing it, so I assume you could do the reverse...maybe.

bcrook said:
I may be dead wrong, but you can extract a .img file to the system folder contents by unyaffs-ing it, so I assume you could do the reverse...maybe.
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im not super linux familiar... im learning as i go and reading everything i can about it
thanks for the info :thumbsup:
so you mean
su
mkyaffs /system
or
su
mkyaffs /block/devblock/mmc0blk (i think thats system idk for sure right now tho)
just checked the unyaffs google code page... says it only supports unyaffs right now not making system.img's.....
but theres links for a mkyaffs so maybe thatll do it
---checking google site sdk site for info on compiling system.imgs maybe theres a tool included---
NOPE NOTHING!
umm
i have an idea for you man
boot into your environment and then adb shell in and just try it because the whole image that you booted to should be read write
once you boot into your emulator load a sd card file with the mksdcard commands
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/othertools.html#mksdcard
then your gunna get your adb and
adb push cyanogen1.4recovery.img /sdcard
adb shell
$ su
# flash_image recovery /sdcard/cyanogen1.4recovery.img
#reboot recovery
and see if itll do it that way if it boots into recovery with the custom recovery.img sweet action your good to go grab your ADB window and
adb push (your custom rom).zip /sdcard
adb shell
#reboot recovery
then select choose update.zip to flash and choose your custom rom and in theory it should flash it to your Readwrite system.img........
someone anyone correct me if im wrong cuz im gunna have to try this when i get home
THIS IS ALL IN THEORY I HAVE NOT TESTED NOR DO I KNOW IF THIS WILL WORK JUST AN IDEA FOR YA

Zarboz said:
im not super linux familiar... im learning as i go and reading everything i can about it
thanks for the info :thumbsup:
so you mean
su
mkyaffs /system
or
su
mkyaffs /block/devblock/mmc0blk (i think thats system idk for sure right now tho)
just checked the unyaffs google code page... says it only supports unyaffs right now not making system.img's.....
but theres links for a mkyaffs so maybe thatll do it
---checking google site sdk site for info on compiling system.imgs maybe theres a tool included---
NOPE NOTHING!
umm
i have an idea for you man
boot into your environment and then adb shell in and just try it because the whole image that you booted to should be read write
once you boot into your emulator load a sd card file with the mksdcard commands
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/othertools.html#mksdcard
then your gunna get your adb and
adb push cyanogen1.4recovery.img /sdcard
adb shell
$ su
# flash_image recovery /sdcard/cyanogen1.4recovery.img
#reboot recovery
and see if itll do it that way if it boots into recovery with the custom recovery.img sweet action your good to go grab your ADB window and
adb push (your custom rom).zip /sdcard
adb shell
#reboot recovery
then select choose update.zip to flash and choose your custom rom and in theory it should flash it to your Readwrite system.img........
someone anyone correct me if im wrong cuz im gunna have to try this when i get home
THIS IS ALL IN THEORY I HAVE NOT TESTED NOR DO I KNOW IF THIS WILL WORK JUST AN IDEA FOR YA
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I tried before, but emulator freezes when I try to reboot it. I think can install Cyanogenmod and the CMUpdater and use my own update.zip to do the update, but I think it will not work.

realjumy said:
I tried before, but emulator freezes when I try to reboot it. I think can install Cyanogenmod and the CMUpdater and use my own update.zip to do the update, but I think it will not work.
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it doesnt work you have to nandroid the update.zip
i was up till like 4 am last night trying to compile a tattoo build and i kept getting stuck on flash at my update script where it CHMOD CHOWN system:xbin
toooo tired to care to mess with it anymore...
tried everything to get the emulator to boot my custom rom but no go
tried doing it like
emulator -sysdir c:\c\herosysimage\ -avd hero
and like
emulator -system C:\c\herosysimage\system.img -avd hero
no boot
also tried putting system.img in the avd folder

New RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery

Thanks to Flipz at Geek For Me for the link (surprised this hadnt been posted yet)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4898505&postcount=1

I'm using the carebear blue version

HeroMeng said:
I'm using the carebear blue version
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So am I!!!!!

Vrekk said:
So am I!!!!!
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me three...

green here.....

Cool themes huh! Seems every part of Android can be "brightened up"

hey guys im a little bit of a noob so can you help me on installing this?? like how to use adb shell?

Had a few quick questions on this...
Can I just use FlashRec to update the Recovery?
Do I have to use the newest version off of ZenThought like I read? (Just wondering cause the site is not coming up)
Will I have to re-install a rom or restore a nandroid or will it just update the recovery and I'm good?

If you already have root, its pretty easy to do, just copy the file to your sdcard then
Code:
adb shell
su
cd /sdcard/
flash_image recovery recovery-RA-heroc-v1.6.2.img
If for some reason "flash_image" is not found, change it to
Code:
/system/bin/flash_image recovery recovery-RA-heroc-v1.6.2.img
If you are using one of the colored ones change the recovery-RA-heroc-v1.6.2.img to the name of whatever one it is.
If you don't have root already :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
Just replace v.1.5.2 with v.1.6.2
You don't have to re flash any roms after this and your backups should still work

but what is that code or what?? where does it go?

juicyj11 said:
but what is that code or what?? where does it go?
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it is command line input on your pc

juicyj11 said:
but what is that code or what?? where does it go?
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You run them in the command line. Cmd.exe for windows, terminal for linux and mac
If you are on windows, install htc sync, it helps with driver issuse.
Then download and extract http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html for your OS. On windows extract to C:\android-sdk\
Then you will run
Code:
cd C:\android-sdk\tools\
then the code I posted above, if you have root that is
If you are using linux or Mac, just skip the htc sync part, they have the needed drivers already

okayy thank you

carebear green for me!

The easiest way of ALL to flash a new recovery image is to download Flipz's kitchen, go into the "root" folder of it, find the recovery images, and rename the 1.5.2 (something like that) to something else, like dog. Then rename the recovery image you want to flash to whatever the 1.5.2 image was named. Then run the auto-rooter, and walah! New recovery flashed. That's how I flashed mine

stupid question, mostly because I don't see much difference...but what's the major differences between this and 1.5.2 (besides the annoying ass carebears)?

I didn't know it was going to be a Care Bear!

ok i did the adb command and flashed the new image, but now i am no longer to get into the recovery mode and it's taking a very long time to boot

i need help. The code you gave me doesnt work. It says no such file or directory found? I have already tried changing the file names but it still doesnt work.

tatonka_hero said:
stupid question, mostly because I don't see much difference...but what's the major differences between this and 1.5.2 (besides the annoying ass carebears)?
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There's a change log on the original thread, but the one biggy I saw is that a Nandroid backup will not backup/restore the recovery console version. Also some bug fixes. Ah hell... here's the changelog:
Code:
- Added power off menu item
- New unyaffs binary patched by Koushik Dutta and Packetlss to fix the "losing root"-issue and incorrect file-time after a Nandroid restore
- New dump_image binary (by Brainaid) patched by Packetlss to fix the "bad blocks"- Nandroid restore issue.
(This will not fix old corrupted Nandroid backups! Please make new backups!!)
- New mkyaffs2image binary
- New flash_image binary
- Updated busybox to v1.5.3
- Nandroid menu options will NOT backup or restore recovery, cache, misc, splash1+2 (to avoid issues)
- Fixed wipe option not wiping when ext was not present
- Created carebear versions after the idea of packetlss
- Switched the Nexus logo to a Green Carebear with Nexus One logo (Thanks Montalbert!)

[ubuntu Q] Any way to root using Ubuntu?

is there a way to use ubuntu to root the epic? I have ubuntu and I want to root my epic but I can't figure out how to use the one-click method because I can't really use the drivers. I was trying to use the terminal with adb but I don't really know what I am doing.

linux doesnt need drivers i made a one click script for linux ill see if i cant find it
http://www.mediafire.com/?hk59z8j5dve6tgf
download that and run the clickhere.sh it should root you just fine, you may need to make the script and adb executable

You can try following along the run.bat script included in the one click root. I did not need to install any drivers to root using Ubuntu, but I did download the Linux version of the android sdk (from Google) just in case (instead of using the adb included in the one-click-root download.
If you have your android-sdk-linux_x86 directory in ~/Downloads/, and you extracted the one.click.root file into ~/Downloads/ as well, here's what you could do:
cd ~/Downloads/one.click.root
(Now you're in the location of the one click root files.)
Next, type each line of the run.bat file manually. Any time you see "adb" replace it with:
sudo ../android-sdk-linux_x86/tools/adb (command)
You'll need to adapt a bit to your situation, but because most of the adb commands are native to adb and run on the phone, they should work verbatim on your Ubuntu system.
Didn't someone put out a Linux one click root, though?
EDIT: Yes, shabbypenguin did. Looks like he posted it above me before I finished typing my post. Whoops.

Complete Big edit....
I thought I bricked my phone but I didn't. I ended up getting the permanent root. I used this guide http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epic-development/adb-root-exploit-test/
Is there anything special I am missing? like busybox? or remount scripts? not sure what either of those are.

remount allows your system to have rw access with a simple command, busybox.. think of it as an extended shell
the zip i included in my post is based off noobnl's latest version and works fine with linux. i made it while using ubuntu

shabbypenguin said:
linux doesnt need drivers i made a one click script for linux ill see if i cant find it
[snip]
download that and run the clickhere.sh it should root you just fine, you may need to make the script and adb executable
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Thank you so much for this! ... "You have no chance to survive make your time" means I'm rooted?

i made version 2, its in my sig, will root and install clockwork mod 2.5.1.0

[Q]How to install Flash ClockworkMod Recovery on M701 (Apad)?

Hi all!
I finally managed to ROOT an aPad M701 using z4Root.apk
Now I want to make an image of my entire ROM tablet, I've heard that under the ROM manager app is a tool called "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" that has to be installed in order to make a full ROM backup.
The problem is that everytime I try to install it a screen pops out telling me to choose from the list my model of phone (I'm on an aPad tablet), since I'm not on a phone, I'm unable to continue with the process!
Any method or workaround for installing Flash ClockworkMod Recovery on Haipads/aPads M701?
Thanks in advance for the help.

Custom Recovery Image
On Team Telechips website there is a custom Clockwork recovery image toward the bottom of the page.
Use the .bat file they include in their ZIP file or push the .img file to /nand and flash. You will then be able to back up everything with the custom m701 clockwork application.
If the .bat file doesn't work for you, try opening it up as text and use the commands as a guide to push via adb.

Thanks a lot for the reply Clookeno but I dont know where to start with this, do you know any step by step guide I can use to achieve this?
Again thanks for the info.

Adb push issues
Clookeno said:
On Team Telechips website there is a custom Clockwork recovery image toward the bottom of the page.
Use the .bat file they include in their ZIP file or push the .img file to /nand and flash. You will then be able to back up everything with the custom m701 clockwork application.
If the .bat file doesn't work for you, try opening it up as text and use the commands as a guide to push via adb.
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I'm trying this and when using adb push to /nand I'm getting back "failed to copy 'recovery.m701.img' to '/nand/recovery.m701.img': Read-only file system"
I'm currently running Haipads 2.2 version and I was looking at testing out CM6 version, but can't seem to get the img file over.
And Ideas?

read only file
adb shell mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

The /nand folder needs to be read-writeable....since you use z4root go into temporary root and the push the file into /nand folder

Locobox said:
Thanks a lot for the reply Clookeno but I dont know where to start with this, do you know any step by step guide I can use to achieve this?
Again thanks for the info.
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Locobox, there likely isn't a step-by-step guide for the procedure because it has a .bat file which is basically a executable file in windows that runs a set of commands in the DOS prompt for you. Basically you just double click the install_recovery.bat file and it puts the ADB commands in for you to push the recovery image to your tablet.
If you right click the .bat file and click edit you will see the following ADB commands:
adb push recovery.m701.img /nand/recovery.m701.img
adb shell sync
adb shell flash_image recovery /nand/recovery.m701.img
adb shell sync
adb shell reboot recovery
If you are familiar with ADB you can also copy the .img file to your sd card and flash it from there.
i recommend you have root access and the ADB utility.
Sorry it took so long to reply, work has been killing me lately....

poole699 said:
I'm trying this and when using adb push to /nand I'm getting back "failed to copy 'recovery.m701.img' to '/nand/recovery.m701.img': Read-only file system"
I'm currently running Haipads 2.2 version and I was looking at testing out CM6 version, but can't seem to get the img file over.
And Ideas?
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poole699,
I have tried everything you can think of to put CM6 on the 2.2 Haipad firmware (which is really a modded 2.1) and had no luck. Either the system directories are all messed up or they locked the ability to edit it somehow. If you figure it out let me know because i have wanted to try it for a while.
I have a working team telechips 2.2 with market and correct orientation settings but it took ALOT of trial and error. If you go that route make sure you back-up your pointercal file because if you do not you will likely have to go back to an official release, save it, and try the telechips mod again...
Good luck

Clookeno said:
Locobox, there likely isn't a step-by-step guide for the procedure because it has a .bat file which is basically a executable file in windows that runs a set of commands in the DOS prompt for you. Basically you just double click the install_recovery.bat file and it puts the ADB commands in for you to push the recovery image to your tablet.
If you right click the .bat file and click edit you will see the following ADB commands:
adb push recovery.m701.img /nand/recovery.m701.img
adb shell sync
adb shell flash_image recovery /nand/recovery.m701.img
adb shell sync
adb shell reboot recovery
If you are familiar with ADB you can also copy the .img file to your sd card and flash it from there.
i recommend you have root access and the ADB utility.
Sorry it took so long to reply, work has been killing me lately....
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Thanks again for the info, but I'm not familiar with ADB. The procedure seems difficult for me hope this thread helps a lot of other users!
Again thanks for the response.

M701 Screen Flip
Hi guys, I've got a bit of a problem with my M701 tablet. I did a factory reset the other day and now the digitizer is inverted. The screen works fine but when I touch the top it senses the bottom & left = right.
This is a complete pain in the arse.
I plugged the unit into a keyboard via the usb port as a workaround until I could get into it to try to resolve the issue but I'm now stuck in a loop at the sign in to google bit. Every time I sign in it takes me back to the sign in page.
This is also a complete pain in the arse.
It doesn't have clockworkmod installed and so when I tried to install update.zip as per the above post, it comes up with 'E:Failed to verify whole-file signature' error message and aborts.
Again, a complete... you get the picture...
So, I'm slightly frustrated with it to say the least and was wondering if any of you intelligent types could either point me in a suitable direction that doesn't involve the bin. Or a window...
Many thanks in advance.

Help
Locobox said:
Hi all!
I finally managed to ROOT an aPad M701 using z4Root.apk
Now I want to make an image of my entire ROM tablet, I've heard that under the ROM manager app is a tool called "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" that has to be installed in order to make a full ROM backup.
The problem is that everytime I try to install it a screen pops out telling me to choose from the list my model of phone (I'm on an aPad tablet), since I'm not on a phone, I'm unable to continue with the process!
Any method or workaround for installing Flash ClockworkMod Recovery on Haipads/aPads M701?
Thanks in advance for the help.
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How were you able to root your apad with Z4? I was not able to find the setting to activate the USB Debugging?
Thanks,
~b

is there development in the forums for the Apad line? im looking at getting a m702 the next 1 up, well i want to find a tablet rom maybe alowing me to run gingerbread on it,
any help?

ljohnso16 said:
is there development in the forums for the Apad line? im looking at getting a m702 the next 1 up, well i want to find a tablet rom maybe alowing me to run gingerbread on it,
any help?
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I'm not sure if this of help to you, but I have a M701 2Gb (probable fake version), I've messed around with the basics on my exploring Android type thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004824
I've put recovery on both 2.1 and 2.3 roms (need different versions). Any other q's then let me know, I don't know much yet but learning the best i can.
A very useful place for info on the M701 is here:
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/groups/11-haipad-m701-m701-r.html