Moving versions ? - G1 Android Development

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Certainly possible. The issue is that without some work, it may not *just work*. Depends on your technical knowledge. Despite the fact that everybody always suggests a full wipe, this is NEVER necessary. Its just that in most cases, its a lot easier - both for the person doing the update as well as the person giving the instruction.

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Uhmm..... There is a link on the first page of the development forum. Hit your back button then look at the top sticky. It should say something close to Apps 2 SD..
Also, doesnt your initial post say that you have already done the apps 2 sd?? I'm a little confused..

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t4tav said:
Sorry it got a bit confususing. What I want to do is update to 1.5 (any build) and be a ble to keep the apps that I've got installed now on rc9.
Basically move versions , but still keep apps. I don't want to / I'm too lazy to reinstall all of them
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If your applications are on your sd card then nothing you flash to the phone will remove them... that's kinda the point.... just reinstate the system links and bam!

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Is it possible to force My Docs to use Card only?

Hello all,
I notice when syncing and also using explorer to look at files on my Tilt that there are what looks like multiple folders with the same name, such as My docs, my pics and so on.
Can I delete them and somehow dorect the device and Active sync to all use the card for file storage?
What has to do with ROM development??? "No i don't want an answer"
Please post somewhere more relative to your subject matter.
abovenbeyond said:
Hello all,
I notice when syncing and also using explorer to look at files on my Tilt that there are what looks like multiple folders with the same name, such as My docs, my pics and so on.
Can I delete them and somehow dorect the device and Active sync to all use the card for file storage?
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Try it and see !
Where else di you post this, I seem to remember helping someone with this same question not long ago ?
I did not post this question before, and I looked around and saw nothing...
And Stylez... WTF dude or Dudett... I asked it here because it has everything to do with the ROM. You see after I flash the ROM I have several duplicate folders, some right in the mobile device root, then some in the My docs folder, and then some on the card when I put it in...
Sheesh my concern about just deleting them is 1) some are tagged as system files so I can't. 2) I don't want to delete one that say the camera is going to try to save to, and 3) Outlook/Exchange, where does it store its data on the device?? If it is on the main memory I would like to change it so it will be saved to the card.
I seem to recall years ago either JasJamming, or Custel, or Maybe it was Dutty had a ROM or maybe a CAB that forced all anything to be saved to the card.
So if the ROM is pointing say to one folder, and active sync to another, and the default OS uses a third, I thought maybe this could all be corrected in ROM cooking and so I asked it here...
Now then, with that said... instead of responding with a NON answer, either speak up with a answer or if you don't know... well pardon my frence but "Shut the F*** up!"
PS: To all you that will read this as me being rude and possibly hurting my ability to get an answer, well I am sorry. But I hate when all someone has to say is to bit*h about anything but an answer.
Your question has to do with active sync & documents
Chill ya beanz no need for a response like that, but please post in the correct sub forum "Software or General" up to you really
You can move the doc to the storage card. Use advanced config and set it there. This is controlled by active synch keys in the registry which you could have found in a few threads...i know because I wrote answers about how this is controlled in several threads and even made a cab for someone to use in my roms to move them back to main memory because Phoenix roms store my documents/pictures/camera/audio files on the storage card and for some reason the change made by advanced config was not taking in the registry. You should do more research about the structure and FYI unless you use a file manager other than the default one, you can't delete system files which is good because you shouldn't delet things unless you understand them.
You can download this from http://www.touchxperience.com/
Good luck and this really does belong in the general kaiser thread.
Also stylez is a great contributor here. So you probably should apologize and your response was off the chart rude here. I should NOT have answered this out of respect for my friend but felt like giving you an answer and a chance to apologize. The mods should NOT close this thread until that occurs.
abovenbeyond said:
I did not post this question before, and I looked around and saw nothing...
And Stylez... WTF dude or Dudett... I asked it here because it has everything to do with the ROM. You see after I flash the ROM I have several duplicate folders, some right in the mobile device root, then some in the My docs folder, and then some on the card when I put it in...
Sheesh my concern about just deleting them is 1) some are tagged as system files so I can't. 2) I don't want to delete one that say the camera is going to try to save to, and 3) Outlook/Exchange, where does it store its data on the device?? If it is on the main memory I would like to change it so it will be saved to the card.
I seem to recall years ago either JasJamming, or Custel, or Maybe it was Dutty had a ROM or maybe a CAB that forced all anything to be saved to the card.
So if the ROM is pointing say to one folder, and active sync to another, and the default OS uses a third, I thought maybe this could all be corrected in ROM cooking and so I asked it here...
Now then, with that said... instead of responding with a NON answer, either speak up with a answer or if you don't know... well pardon my frence but "Shut the F*** up!"
PS: To all you that will read this as me being rude and possibly hurting my ability to get an answer, well I am sorry. But I hate when all someone has to say is to bit*h about anything but an answer.
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parleyp said:
Also stylez is a great contributor here. So you probably should apologize and your response was off the chart rude here. I should NOT have answered this out of respect for my friend
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The part I agree with ..............................
I would have let this thread die a fast and unanswered death.
P.S..... the last two threads you started got locked for being redundant and irrelevant. This is going to make three in a row. Nice Job !
denco7 said:
The part I agree with ..............................
I would have let this thread die a fast and unanswered death.
P.S..... the last two threads you started got locked for being redundant and irrelevant. This is going to make three in a row. Nice Job !
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What a track record. I have only actually started one thread in my whole time here!

[Q] Cannot Uninstall Apps!??

Hello...
I'm having a couple issues with my EVO. I'm rooted but haven't flashed ANY custom ROMS. The only thing I done really root-wise is to flash a couple font packs and to backup everything with Titanium Pro.
Anyway, I have been having a problem where all the apps installed on my SD card will NOT launch. They don't even show up in the app drawer!! Occasionally, once every 5-10 reboots of the phone, the apps WILL show up but more often than not (and lately EVERY TIME I reboot) I can only access the apps installed on the internal phone memory.
It has been suggested to me to free up some space on my card and with the internal memory of my phone. I have an 8GB SD card that was down to 250MB of space. That is now been cleared out so that 1.2GB is free.
Now, HERE IS MY PROBLEM going forward...
I've been trying to clear out some apps installed on the phone because I only had about 42MB of memory left and received a warning on the phone that space was getting low. I was able to uninstall a few apps to free up space to 61MB, HOWEVER, I CANNOT SEEM TO UNINSTALL APPS ANYMORE!! No matter what method I try...using an app like "Easy Uninstaller" or going through the Manage Applications option on the phone, it is NOT working.
If I use Easy Uninstaller or the Manage Applications route, I see the progress bar of the supposed uninstall but it just HANGS...never finishes.
In addition, ODDLY, as I look at my phone next to me as I type, all the information in the "Manage Applications" mode is stuck on "computing..." If I click on an app name to bring me to the Force Stop/Uninstall/Clear Data/Move to SD card, etc screen, there is NO information about the app!! The Storage information Total, Application and Data are "stuck" on "Computing..." as is the "Cache" information.
I THOUGHT my problem was with the card or reading the card. All the data is INTACT in the card. I can access anything with a file explorer. I can even view gallery pictures that I have saved in folders I have created ON THE CARD. I just can't get to or launch the apps installed the card and NOW it appears that the information associated with apps installed ON THE PHONE is now banged up.
Has anyone seen this problem with uninstalling apps?? Seeing the "Computing..." information just hang and not go anywhere?? Any thoughts on a fix short of doing a hard reset of the phone and/or Nandroid restore?? I'm not averse to a Nandroid restore, however, I am NOT sure if my underlying problem causing these issues is WITHIN MY BACKUP FILES
THANKS!!
I would do a hard reset regardless. It will return your ROM to a pristine state in less time than it took to write that post and you'll soon find out if it fixed your problems.
If it doesn't i would back up files from SD, format and try again.
DirkGently1 said:
I would do a hard reset regardless. It will return your ROM to a pristine state in less time than it took to write that post and you'll soon find out if it fixed your problems.
If it doesn't i would back up files from SD, format and try again.
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I sure am glad you decided to edit your post to include a bit more helpful information rather than your original terse and not-so-warm statement which read:
DirkGently1 said:
I would do a hard reset regardless. It will return your ROM to a pristine state in less time than it took to write that post
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I apologize if I wasn't clear in the fact that I knew I could easily and simply do a hard reset to, likely, eliminate my problems. In fact, I wrote:
Scudderb said:
Any thoughts on a fix short of doing a hard reset of the phone and/or Nandroid restore?? I'm not averse to a Nandroid restore, however, I am NOT sure if my underlying problem causing these issues is WITHIN MY BACKUP FILES
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See??
My GOAL with this post was to try to figure out WHY this was happening. My fear was, if I backed up, reformatted and tried again, that I might simply be transferring the problem BACK to my clean settings. I was HOPING with this post, which took "longer than a hard reset to type," that the information I provided might shed some light on what was causing the problems and that SOMEONE might suggest how to avoid in the future.
Yeah, so I wasn't quite looking for the obvious "start from scratch" answer...
DirkGently1 said:
I would do a hard reset regardless. It will return your ROM to a pristine state in less time than it took to write that post and you'll soon find out if it fixed your problems.
If it doesn't i would back up files from SD, format and try again.
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Read it again. I just told you what i would do. If you choose to do something different it's up to you.
We learn by doing!
DirkGently1 said:
Read it again. I just told you what i would do. If you choose to do something different it's up to you.
We learn by doing!
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Big, BIG thanks for stating the OBVIOUS. By the way, way BEFORE you even replied, I flashed a recovery that put my system back to where I was before the problem. That option was neither difficult nor what I was seeking in posting my questions.
We learn NOTHING by "doing" what you suggested. We learn NOTHING by hitting "factory reset" on the phone or even doing what I did with flashing a recovery. One WOULD LEARN if told some of the reasons this might have occurred and ways to avoid in the future. Feel free to follow this thread so that you can learn as well.
Actually, you, yourself might need your own "hard reset"...or change your username to "Dirk-Not-So-Gently." I've never quite encountered such attitude with a suggestion so obvious and uninformative.
Ok...moving forward beyond the obvious, brain-dead "factory restore"/flash recovery option that I have already done. I was hoping someone might shed some light on this situation so that I and others might LEARN the reasons this occurred and avoid it in the future??
Thanks...
BTW..."Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result". You can keep your insanity and reset your phone every time without figuring out the the cause. Forgive me though, I'm gonna try and LEARN why this happened...
Have you fixed it yet? Let us know when you've done a hard reset of the phone and/or Nandroid restore.
DirkGently1 said:
Have you fixed it yet? Let us know when you've done a hard reset of the phone and/or Nandroid restore.
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WOW...do we even READ before we post??
Scudderb said:
Big, BIG thanks for stating the OBVIOUS. By the way, way BEFORE you even replied, I flashed a recovery that put my system back to where I was before the problem. That option was neither difficult nor what I was seeking in posting my questions.
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I added a little emphasis...you must have overlooked or not read thoroughly. Shocker. I'm WAAAAAY beyond the need to reset/restore...did so even before your first reply.
It's OK...honestly...don't mean to waste your time and have you struggle to help me here. Let's just let someone else read this to see if they might have an idea about the CAUSES of the problems. You, yourself are on some sort of endless loop suggesting to reset reset reset restore without giving ANY assistance as to the CAUSE of the problem. It's OK...you can rest...no need to keep replying...nighty, night...
Download an uninstaller from the android market, if not get root explorer(check r/w) and go to /data/app and uninstall the desired app.
It looks like you need to do a master reset using Odin3, I am sure that will fix the problem if nothing else you have done has fixed it......
Eth3n said:
Download an uninstaller from the android market, if not get root explorer(check r/w) and go to /data/app and uninstall the desired app.
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Interestingly, ALL methods of uninstalling apps were not working..."Uninstaller," "Easy Uninstaller" and the typical Manage Applications options were what I tried. I didn't try to check r/w and also didn't try to uninstall through Titanium Pro but wound up flashing a nand recovery that brought me back a few days to BEFORE when my problem started. So I'm OK now.
What I'm TRYING to do, however, is to figure out WHY this was happening so that it doesn't happen again. Internal memory too low (got down to 9-10%)?? Internal memory corruption?? Cache issues?? Any ideas??
Misterjunky said:
It looks like you need to do a master reset using Odin3, I am sure that will fix the problem if nothing else you have done has fixed it......
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If you were suggesting a un-root and/or getting me back to stock, fortunately, I didn't have to do that!
As I mentioned above, I'm now trying to see if someone might know WHY this happened so that I can avoid it in the future. Thanks...
Scudderb said:
....I'm now trying to see if someone might know WHY this happened so that I can avoid it in the future. Thanks...
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User error. Try a Factory Reset.
DirkGently1 said:
Have you fixed it yet? Let us know when you've done a hard reset of the phone and/or Nandroid restore.
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Just wanted to let anyone else having the problem that I was posting about that I was able to fix my problem!!
Whoever suggested the information above REALLY didn't know what he was talking about. The suggestion was QUITE unnecessary...and pretty OBVIOUS if you think about it?? I'm surprised the suggestion wasn't to go to the store and get a new phone. I'm sure happy I did some more research!!
Well, the problem resides in what was likely some corruptions in the .android_secure directory. I simply uninstalled the apps installed on the card, deleted the contents of the .android_secure directory and restored the apps and data using Titanium Backup! That's it!! Even if a Nandroid restore was done it would not have changed the corruption that would have remained in the directory.
So, hope what I asked, what I tried and what worked helps someone!!
Have you thought about going to the store and buying a new phone? I don't know if there's a way to recover from such a ruthless error.
DreamPCs said:
Have you thought about going to the store and buying a new phone? I don't know if there's a way to recover from such a ruthless error.
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Based on your suggestion I went ahead and bought TWO new phones...so I can call one phone to see if the other is working.
Wow, with a recommendation like yours, whoever said there weren't any geniuses on here...and funny ones too...were just proven wrong.
I'll let you know how my third phone turns out when I buy it...
DreamPCs said:
Have you thought about going to the store and buying a new phone? I don't know if there's a way to recover from such a ruthless error.
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Hey, I tried to donate to you for this great information but the link doesn't work...oh well, darn!!
Have you fixed it yet?

[Q] I am posting here because I can not post in DEV

Hi I am new to XDA. I have been running Linux for years. Refused to buy a I-PDA. I got a gtablet in hopes one day they will release a linux for it. So now I am modding my tablet with Caulkins mod. (SWEET). I have a problem. I would like to ask him... or other people on his thread. Actually a couple people mentioned it. I am too much a noob to ask directly. So now I have 9 more messages to write. Because my intellegence is directly linked to the number of messages I write. Oh sure I could understand. Don't create a new thread. But really? So I am going to write a question in the wrong area just because I have not wrote 10 messages on this forum.
So here we go:
I want to install thumb Keyboard. I hate the standard keyboard. I read on Caulkin's Mod thread that all you have to do is use root Filemanager and move the APK for the thumb Keyboad from data/app to system/app. Either I am accessing the wrong area or something. The only place I can find the apk is in downloads. But when I try to moved it to system/app I get an error message saying I can not move it.
Oh how I wish I could have a real OS on this thing.
ChibiPa said:
Hi I am new to XDA. I have been running Linux for years. Refused to buy a I-PDA. I got a gtablet in hopes one day they will release a linux for it. So now I am modding my tablet with Caulkins mod. (SWEET). I have a problem. I would like to ask him... or other people on his thread. Actually a couple people mentioned it. I am too much a noob to ask directly. So now I have 9 more messages to write. Because my intellegence is directly linked to the number of messages I write. Oh sure I could understand. Don't create a new thread. But really? So I am going to write a question in the wrong area just because I have not wrote 10 messages on this forum.
So here we go:
I want to install thumb Keyboard. I hate the standard keyboard. I read on Caulkin's Mod thread that all you have to do is use root Filemanager and move the APK for the thumb Keyboad from data/app to system/app. Either I am accessing the wrong area or something. The only place I can find the apk is in downloads. But when I try to moved it to system/app I get an error message saying I can not move it.
Oh how I wish I could have a real OS on this thing.
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Wow my English is horrible. I should have reread it before posting it. Sorry about the ranting
If using root explorer you need to make sure that you hit the button next to 'Mounted as r/o' and change it to r/w (read/write)
ChibiPa said:
Hi I am new to XDA. I have been running Linux for years. Refused to buy a I-PDA. I got a gtablet in hopes one day they will release a linux for it. So now I am modding my tablet with Caulkins mod. (SWEET). I have a problem. I would like to ask him... or other people on his thread. Actually a couple people mentioned it. I am too much a noob to ask directly. So now I have 9 more messages to write. Because my intellegence is directly linked to the number of messages I write. Oh sure I could understand. Don't create a new thread. But really? So I am going to write a question in the wrong area just because I have not wrote 10 messages on this forum.
So here we go:
I want to install thumb Keyboard. I hate the standard keyboard. I read on Caulkin's Mod thread that all you have to do is use root Filemanager and move the APK for the thumb Keyboad from data/app to system/app. Either I am accessing the wrong area or something. The only place I can find the apk is in downloads. But when I try to moved it to system/app I get an error message saying I can not move it.
Oh how I wish I could have a real OS on this thing.
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First, this would be an app anyway, so it wouldn't need to go to DEV. Rather, it would have gone to "Themes and Apps," You would have created a thread in the wrong section if it'd been allowed, so maybe you should take that into consideration regarding the rant.
Second, I run Thumb Keyboard (on TwoTapsX), so what you're saying is correct. If you downloaded it from the market, it would install into /data/app. If you didn't download it from the market and instead have the apk, then *I think* you should just go ahead and run the apk to install it. Then it will appear in /data/app. However, your real issue seems to be that your file explorer might not be running with root permissions (if you can't copy it to /system/app). I use Absolute System, which always has root permissions on by default, but I've seen other applications that require you to switch (maybe by pressing a button marked su or root). You may need to look into that.

[Q] WHY can't you delete preinstalled apps?

Hi folks,
As you can tell from the title I'm a smartphone noob and didn't realise you couldn't do this (see the amount of people I've spoke to who didn't even notice you can't delete apps that come with the phone! What's with that?).
But as you can see I emphasised the 'why', 'cause I've searched everywhere but can't find a reason as to why. I'd assume it was just so you can't delete bloatware, but even the Nexus that runs on stock Android has the same issue.
Does anyone know why (or guess why) you can't delete preinstalled apps?
Thanks!
If your device is rooted, all you have to do is download Root Explorer from the market and delete the APK files from the system.
They're located in: /system/app/
You have to press "Mount R/W" on the top right of the application before you can read and write. Make sure hit "Mount R/O" in the same spot after you're done editing though. Also, make sure that what you're deleting isn't something you need and you should probably back-up the .APK files to be safe. If you mess up and don't back up, you can still just re-flash or re-download GAPPS without a problem. Have fun .
Thanks
I was thinking about rooting my phone actually, I'll check that out (I'm sooooo going to back up everything lol).
But! The question was WHY you can't delete the preinstalled apps. Does anyone know the reasoning behind it?
You're welcome mate .
Just for safety I suppose. And you should definitely root your phone, it'll open a whole new world for you!
manufacturer /operator agreements...
tmpchr said:
manufacturer /operator agreements...
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That and basically without rooting your phone it's basically like a comps guest profile. A lot less can mess up if you can't play around with certain files/settings.
Makes sense.
Thanks folks
I am also unhappy that i cannot uninstall apps that came with the phone and i have yet to find a good reason as to why not. most of the apps i want to delete are free on the market, already compatible with my phone and can be deleted or uninstalled without causing any major issues.
tmpchr says "manufacturer /operator agreements..."
ok ill buy that, sounds like a good business opportunity, (i would do it) good advertising, shared/reduced costs...etc. but the end user should still have the option to remove.
I totally agree with you guys, at the very beginning I had so big apps installed on my device (motorola xt720), for instance MotoNav was about 1.5 GB and spoiled my battery life. Luckily I discovered how to root the device and now, using "root uninstaller" that you find in the market, all of them are just a memory
You could also use Titanium Backup to remove programs.

Noob Guide: How to - from stock phone to custom ROM: includes Bali/Voodoo Lagfix

Ok, for anyone who finds this. I'm writing out a quick guide for what I was led through. I've borrowed a few lines from some other threads as well
This guide will take an original stock SideKick 4g that has not otherwise been modified, flashed, etc and lead you through the steps to running a custom ROM. This should lead to a smoother running system with less lag, longer battery life, etc.
[Edit] I was pointed later to a nice FAQ by xmeatizmurderx, which, while not a guide, does have some questions answered you might have, along with some definitions and whatnot that might help make things clearer for you or if you just like know what it is something actually does or is. ^..^
I personally updated to Gingerclone v2, BUT any of the custom ROMs are installed exactly the same way. I do not list links to all of them, so you might have to find the one you want when you get to that stage if you do not want to use Gingerclone.
While I did originally update to GCv2, I had some issues and we're not sure why. So I changed over to CleanFusion v3. It's much more similar to the stock system in looks and all. I would also suggest, make sure you have a backup of all your stuff (contacts in particular) off your sim, on another card/phone/google/whatever. Most of my contacts dissapeared, we think because it's an old sim that likes to be wonky with some of the new phones. But still, be forewarned.
After the device is rooted, you can use MyBackup Root (free in the market) to backup all your applications and data to your SD, which you can then copy to your computer as well.
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First, download SuperOneClick from http://shortfuse.org/ . Whatever the most recent version is.
The file you downloaded of SuperOneClick is a .zip file. You'll need to extract it to its own folder (if you don't have a program to do this, download .7zip here http://www.7-zip.org/download.html).
Download the Samsung drivers ~ In this case, the Samsung Vibrant drivers work for the Sidekick 4g. Drivers found under the 'software' tab here http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/SGH-T959ZKDTMB
Install the Drivers to your computer and reboot it.
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With the phone unplugged, enable USB Debugging. On the home screen of the phone select Settings > Applications > Development and then select USB Debugging so that a Check appears on the selection box.
When enabled, connect the phone to your PC.
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Run SuperOneClick (the .exe file) which is on your computer. When the program has opened click 'Root'.
The program will pop through a bunch of windows, if it asks to install something like mine did, say yes. When it finishes, it asks if you would like to test it. Say yes.
Your phone is now rooted.
I disconnected from the computer and rebooted the phone (turn off and then on again).
Plug the phone back into the computer.
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Next step is to go to this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124453
[EDIT/UPDATE] Krylon360's files moved or something, find the recovery.zip and update.zip here http://db.androidspin.com/Developer_Display.asp?DeveloperID=248
I was advised to go through the first post, as I’d learn more. But apparently there’s an automated script somewhere in this same thread if that’s your preference. I quite enjoyed learning how to access everything myself, in case I ever need to use it for something.
You will need Root Explorer ($3.99) from the android market. I tried Astro File Manager, and it’s lovely, except for the fact that you need to buy the Pro edition in order to access the /system files. >:C
(Basically you need a file manager on the phone that will allow you to copy files into your /system/bin file on the phone.)
Download both of the files listed in the thread I just gave. You will mount your SD card (on the home page of your phone, drop down that little black menu thing at the very top, select USB storage and enable it).
Place the file ‘recovery’ and the zipped file ‘update’ onto your SD card. Nowhere in particular, just in that main area that appears when you open the SD.
Now is a good time to put the ROM you want to flash onto the SD as well.
[EDIT]: Please keep in mind I'm not a developer and I don't plan to live on this forum. So new ROMs will be developed and I probably won't be around to update this list. So make sure to look around for threads about new ROMs to start with or update to. ^..^
Those suggested to me were :
Gingerclone: Apparently themed very green.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1231021 (check Dev forum for a newer version)
TouchMIUIwiz: Very similar to Gingerclone, but more greys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207328 (check Dev forum for a newer version)
Smooth Maximus: Themed very blue and black
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158250 (check Dev forum for a newer version)
Clean Fusion: Clean and pretty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204131 (check Dev forum for a newer version)
Of course, there are likely other ones out there, these are just the main ones my supporter knows intimately enough to note. He had a really hard time recommending just one. XD
Whatever you go with, it's always a good idea to have a backup of your phone system, which we go through later in the guide when you need it, so don't fret.
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Feel free to use whatever new ROM you'd like, either listed above or another on the Development Forums, I was told all the following steps would be exactly the same, just using a different custom ROM.
I’m going with Gingerclone v2, as I was informed that while it did crash on my helper once, it seems to be overall the most consistent one that he’s tried.
The above linked thread for GingerClone has two files, I’m using the top one, as I do not have the original release installed.
This .zip file you just downloaded can be copied onto the SD root menu (the main menu available when you access the SDcard from 'My Computer').
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Unmount your SDcard from the computer (that little black bar on the top of your phone's home screen, turn off the usb connection). Disconnected from the computer even if you want.
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Open Root Explorer. Navigate to access the SD card (it has its own file in the root menu you start off in). Copy the ‘recovery’ file, navigate back and paste it into /system/bin (to get there, navigate back by tapping the top option 'parent directory', select 'system', select 'bin', paste it in there). Do not delete the original 'recovery' file in here. It will automatically ask if you want to overwrite the file. Say yes.
If it give you the error “you cannot paste here because the file system is read-only.’ Then at the top, tap the “R/W” square so that it then reads “R/O”. Paste again, select ‘yes’ to overwrite the file.
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Next you’ll turn the phone off so you can boot into recovery mode. To do this, while turned off, you’ll hold the volume up and volume down buttons together, then, while holding them, press the power button. Let go of all three together once the screen starts up.
If you get some blue text, a little warning looking sign over the droid dude, and some yellow text, then you're in the right place.
In here use the volume up and down buttons to navigate through the options and use the power button to select something.
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Highlight “reinstall packages” and use the power button to select it once it’s highlighted.
You’ll have orange text now. So first, let’s backup the phone, JUST IN CASE something goes funky. (nothing went wonky for me)
Navigate to ‘backup and restore’ and select it.
Navigate to ‘backup’ and select it.
It should be backing up now, with a little nasty coloured yellow progress bar at the bottom.
Once the backup is done, you should be back at the original orange texted screen.
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This next bit is important:
Navigate to ‘mounts and storage’ and select it.
It should read:
unmount /chache
mount /data
mount /sdcard
unmount /system
(My phone said “unmount /sdcard” which isn't important. The only thing that NEEDS to read correctly is 'unmount /system' - If it says 'mount system', you need to navigate to it and select it so that it reads correctly)
If your list reads like the above, then you’re good. Click the ‘back’ button, which is the arrow on the bottom left corner of the phone (if you're holding it the way I am. ;p).
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Navigate to ‘wipe data/factory reset’ and select it.
Navigate to the ‘yes -- delete all user data’ and select it.
Repeat this twice more. (That’ll be three times total.)
Navigate to ‘wipe cache partition’ and select it.
Navigate to ‘yes -- Wipe Cache’ and select it.
Repeat this twice more. (Again, three times total.)
Next, navigate to ‘advanced’ and select it.
Navigate to ‘wipe Dalvik Cache’ and select it.
Repeat this twice more. (Three times total.)
I was told to go back to the mounts and storage menu to make sure it still says ‘unmount /system’. Mine did still say this. If it doesn't read correctly, it won't boot right. Fix it if you need to.
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Next I’m going to install GingerClone.
To reiterate, if you want to use a different custom ROM, go for it, the steps are the exact same, you just need the correct ROM download (which should be a .zip file).
Go back up a menu, navigate to ‘install zip from sdcard’ and select it.
Navigate to ‘choose zip from sdcard’ and select it.
Navigate to the GingerClone.zip (the name is longer than that, but you should know what I’m talking about.) and select it.
It’ll go through installing GingerClone now, with that ugly yellow progress bar at the bottom again.
When it’s done installing. Go back again to the ‘mounts and storage’ menu to check that the system is still unmounted (should still read ‘unmount /system’) Mine did mount my SDcard, but that’s fine. If it reads ‘mount /system’ then navigate to it and select it so that it reads ‘unmount /system’.
Good job so far! Go back to the main menu and navigate to ‘reboot system now’ and select it.
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Bit odd seeming. It did take longer to boot up. First my phone talked to me, which I was told was the Voodoo LagFix. Then it started blowing sparklers into an X which is also good as that means it’s booting up. (I'm not sure, but it might look different for other custom ROMs.)
The normal screen that’s still ‘locked’ before you would go to the home screen should have the options to slide up (Start Using) or down (Tune a few things first). I was told to go ahead and do the tune bit and “just hit next a buncha times and get rid of it.” ;p It’s pretty straight forward setup stuff.
In case you’re wondering, that ‘update.zip’ that you downloaded earlier when you downloaded the recovery file? Well, when you reinstalled packages, it did that one automatically. So it's taken care of, no worries.
From now on, if Voodoo LagFix is on and you go into recovery mode (when you turned it off and held the volume buttons and turned it back on) then the text should be red. You can check if you want though it's not necessary, the red just indicates that Voodoo LagFix is indeed installed.
I was told that there are options in recovery mode to disable Voodoo LagFix or to convert back to the original file system. I haven't messed with them and don't plan to so long as this keeps working nice for me.
So. Yay! Have fun exploring and customizing your improved system!
I may have typed this sucker up, but basically all credit goes to the hours of support given to me by yogi2010 who is entirely awesome.
If there *is* anything that's a bit off or inaccurate, place the blame on me as interpreter, I just wrote out what I did, and if I thought it might be necessary, how something worked to the best of my very limited knowledge.
Great work!
I tried installing a new rom on my sk4g a few months ago and couldn't get it to work so i left it alone in fear of bricking my phone. I finally got the balls to try again and used this link and it worked perfectly. Thanks so much and good work yogi2010 and Kediil!
DirtyNateDog said:
I tried installing a new rom on my sk4g a few months ago and couldn't get it to work so i left it alone in fear of bricking my phone. I finally got the balls to try again and used this link and it worked perfectly. Thanks so much and good work yogi2010 and Kediil!
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Glad you got it all working!
Why do you think posting a noob/how to guide after we have like 4 is a good idea? How many of these guides do we need already? This forum is getting filled with junk and overposting
xmeatizmurderx said:
Why do you think posting a noob/how to guide after we have like 4 is a good idea? How many of these guides do we need already? This forum is getting filled with junk and overposting
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If there's another guide that has all the steps, from very beginning to finish, I'd suggest you find someone to sticky it. I spent three days going through the forums and could not find a single guide that took me through everything, step by step, which is why I put this together, assuming that because I could not find it, it did not exist.
Be it this one or another, there needs to be a guide for a know-nothing-noob such as myself to follow without having to hunt down the separate bits and hope I put them together in the right order, and it needs to be stickied in the top of one of the forums, preferably in the General or Development area.
that has all the steps, from very beginning to finish, I'd suggest you find someone to sticky it. I spent three days going through the forums and could not find a single guide that took me through everything, step by step, which is why I put this together, assuming that because I could not find it, it did not exist.
Be it this one or another, there needs to be a guide for a know-nothing-noob such as myself to follow without having to hunt down the separate bits and hope I put them together in the right order, and it needs to be stickied in the top of one of the forums, preferably in the General or Development area.[/QUOTE]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135634
It's the 3rd post down in the development section and takes everything from start to finish, you obviously didn't search very hard
xmeatizmurderx said:
Why do you think posting a noob/how to guide after we have like 4 is a good idea? How many of these guides do we need already? This forum is getting filled with junk and overposting
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Wow, I find that comment extremely rude and out of place. I personally find this guide much easier to follow, and many may agree with me. I don't see anything wrong with having different tutorials on the same operation. Look around, I guarantee you will see it happening everywhere, not just on these forums. So long as it doesn't purposely mislead people, I don't see the harm in it. In fact, it seems to me that, your comment is the one adding more 'junk' to the forums. As you have now posted a reply that does not benefit the community at all, instead its provoking unnecessary posting. If it is so bothersome to you, and if this post really falls into your 'junk' category, discuss it in private if your position in these forums allows it, but not here where you are making a comment which puts down someones good-hearted attempt to help out the community.
@Kediil Thank you for this post. There can never be 'too many' helpful people.
xmeatizmurderx said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135634
It's the 3rd post down in the development section and takes everything from start to finish, you obviously didn't search very hard
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I did go through, and I did see that one, but I had no idea what it was. The name of the thread didn't make it obvious to me, who knew absolutely nothing, that it was a guide. I didn't know what rooting was, or if I needed to do it, or how (for all there's a guide within the rooting thread). I didn't know what CWM was. I didn't know what a kernal actually was, or how to 'flash' it.
Looking at the guide you linked, if you know more or less what you're doing, then it could prove helpful, if a bit blunt. But coming at it from the perspective of knowing absolutely nothing, it didn't help me in the least.
I know it can be difficult to know something and have to deal with people who know nothing, but if there's no sure-fire, solid way for the new person to learn without needing a knowledgeable person to help, then you'll just continue to be needlessly frustrated.
@ merman123 Thank you very much for the support. ^..^ It's already helped at least one person, so I'm satisfied. There will always be haters or frustration or drama. It's the internet! ;p
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I did go through, and I did see that one, but I had no idea what it was. The name of the thread didn't make it obvious to me, who knew absolutely nothing, that it was a guide. I didn't know what rooting was, or if I needed to do it, or how (for all there's a guide within the rooting thread). I didn't know what CWM was. I didn't know what a kernal actually was, or how to 'flash' it.
Looking at the guide you linked, if you know more or less what you're doing, then it could prove helpful, if a bit blunt. But coming at it from the perspective of knowing absolutely nothing, it didn't help me in the least.
I know it can be difficult to know something and have to deal with people who know nothing, but if there's no sure-fire, solid way for the new person to learn without needing a knowledgeable person to help, then you'll just continue to be needlessly frustrated.
@ merman123 Thank you very much for the support. ^..^ It's already helped at least one person, so I'm satisfied. There will always be haters or frustration or drama. It's the internet! ;p
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Posting several threads that say basically the same thing is annoying and clutters the threads making it hard for people to find what they need. It has also annoyed the **** out of a lot of us on here and driven away several developers for this phone because noobs come on and post new threads constantly about the same couple of things.
Being a noob is fine, we all are at some point but learning to search and pm some of the senior members for help will help keep the forums clean and the devs happy, I find it hard to believe you came across xda without knowing what rooting was but honestly I don't care, just please be mindfull and spend time searching thoroughly before posting.
xmeatizmurderx said:
Posting several threads that say basically the same thing is annoying and clutters the threads making it hard for people to find what they need. It has also annoyed the **** out of a lot of us on here and driven away several developers for this phone because noobs come on and post new threads constantly about the same couple of things.
Being a noob is fine, we all are at some point but learning to search and pm some of the senior members for help will help keep the forums clean and the devs happy, I find it hard to believe you came across xda without knowing what rooting was but honestly I don't care, just please be mindfull and spend time searching thoroughly before posting.
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I came across XDA by typing 'sidekick 4g lag fix' into google, obviously because I was experiencing lag and was hoping for a fix. One of XDA's threads was the first thing listed and people here seemed to know what they were doing and talking about here. I did spend quite a lot of time searching. I would gladly take full fault for posting something unneeded if anyone would but show me a link to a full, step by step, easy to follow guide. *shrugs* I'll eat my words if there is one.
I need help
So I'm trying to run a custom rom on my new SK4g but no matter what I do, I keep softbricking it... just gets stuck on the sidekick logo during boot. I've followed this guide STEP BY STEP a few times and with different roms, same result. After the rom install is complete I confirm the mounts are correct and then reboot to system but it never gets to system. I end up having to start over from stock via ODIN
HELP HELP HELP... what am I doing wrong. The only POSSIBLE thing I can think of is when it comes time to overwrite the recovery binary, I use adb shell and mount the system with:
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# mount -o remount,rw -t ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p25 /system
then I copy the file with:
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# cp -f /mnt/sdcard/recovery /system/bin/
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# reboot recovery
please someone help me and tell me what im doing wrong
not too sure what's wrong, but if you are flashing ROMs, you probably are getting into ClockworkMod properly. are you checking your mounts BEFORE you install the ROM as well as after?
xmeatizmurderx said:
Posting several threads that say basically the same thing is annoying and clutters the threads making it hard for people to find what they need. It has also annoyed the **** out of a lot of us on here and driven away several developers for this phone because noobs come on and post new threads constantly about the same couple of things.
Being a noob is fine, we all are at some point but learning to search and pm some of the senior members for help will help keep the forums clean and the devs happy, I find it hard to believe you came across xda without knowing what rooting was but honestly I don't care, just please be mindfull and spend time searching thoroughly before posting.
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Wow, your a real ass. I think this guide is probably the best one here. Very clean and very thorough. Its not people like him that cause developers to leave. Its people like you with no respect and a big attitude. And a HUGE head!!
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Thanks so much for this post
Thanks for explaining in layman's terms how to do this. It is very helpful for me and I too had trouble making sense of the other how-to posts. With something as sensitive as flashing hardware it is really important for a novice to clearly understand the steps. I for one really appreciate and applaud your efforts Kediil and Yogi2010!
I'm glad that this has helped some people! I know for those that have been around here a while, it is basically the same thing we already know, but I do think this guide was very clearly written, and is helpful to those who are completely new to this and don't have any idea where to start, and just want to get their phones rooted and modded. kudos to kediil for the great write-up!
I get mad everytime i try to do this because whenever i try to reinstall the packages it just says failed to verify whole signature or whatever then it aborts it , help me please , im tired of this **** ass stock rom
JayNycWepa said:
I get mad everytime i try to do this because whenever i try to reinstall the packages it just says failed to verify whole signature or whatever then it aborts it , help me please , im tired of this **** ass stock rom
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It sounds like the modified recovery didn't get properly moved into system/bin. Have you followed the steps and pasted the recovery file you downloaded into system/bin, replacing the recovery file that was already there?
Kediil said:
I came across XDA by typing 'sidekick 4g lag fix' into google, obviously because I was experiencing lag and was hoping for a fix. One of XDA's threads was the first thing listed and people here seemed to know what they were doing and talking about here. I did spend quite a lot of time searching. I would gladly take full fault for posting something unneeded if anyone would but show me a link to a full, step by step, easy to follow guide. *shrugs* I'll eat my words if there is one.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206991
Like I said, SEARCH BEFORE POSTING
It took me all of 10 seconds to find this, it's on the second page of the development section and there are only 4 pages. It took you far longer to type this up than it would have to search.
The reason we don't have stickies is because moderators don't pay attention to us because we have no developers anymore (this is about to change though one of our members was recently sent an invite)
If this were any other phone this overposting wouldn't be tolerated, you guys treat the forums like it's facebook and would rather start a thread than take the time to search for your answer, and it clutters everything up with useless threads. When I joined XDA and had a G1 I didn't post anything for like 2 years because I was able to find the answers by searching.
I am an asshole, so get used to it but I mean you no harm. I am trying to give advice because I have been on here since day one and personally seen devs leave out of irritation with the members lack of forum etiquette. If we can all try and keep the forums clean then we have a better chance of getting support, and this will also help you guys in the future when you move onto more popular devices. If you think I'm a **** you have no idea what some of the senior members can be like lol
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dw9906 said:
Wow, your a real ass. I think this guide is probably the best one here. Very clean and very thorough. Its not people like him that cause developers to leave. Its people like you with no respect and a big attitude. And a HUGE head!!
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That's what she said
Alright I'm done trolling now
xmeatizmurderx said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206991
Eat 'em up bro
Like I said, SEARCH BEFORE POSTING
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Um, you posted a link to a FAQ, not a step by step guide...
xmeatizmurderx said:
Alright I'm done trolling now
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Quit trolling, noone is impressed. Unlike you, Kediil is actually adding to this forum.
vitriolix said:
Um, you posted a link to a FAQ, not a step by step guide...
Quit trolling, noone is impressed. Unlike you, Kediil is actually adding to this forum.
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faq, guide, whatever
I have posted several links that tell you in plain terms how to root and put roms on from stock. If people find this one easier to read for some reason then good for them, I don't have the power to moderate the forums
My point has been made, I don't know why you are responding to me if you don't like what I have to say
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I have sent in a request to have this thread stickied for you guys

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