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I was able to install and run apps from the sd card (ext2), but somehow I still uninstall some apps that i don't use frequently. Is there anyway I can remove the apps from the sd card that i uninstalled? I know the fact that they don't occupy that much spaces, but still I'm thirsty for the knowledge on that issue
uuummm you can go to your terminal and
1- su
2- cd /system/sd/app or app-private
3- ls
4- rm "filename you wanna remove" without double quotes
5- Thats it !!!
samysam05 said:
uuummm you can go to your terminal and
1- su
2- cd /system/sd/app or app-private
3- ls
4- rm "filename you wanna remove" without double quotes
5- Thats it !!!
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and because of the "ln -s" command you could also cd /data/data/app .. it all points to the same place now
issues partitioning SD card for moving apps
I am having ALOT of trouble trying to format my 4GB SD card to the fat32/ext2 partitions.
I have tried using partition manager 9, setting the fat32 (2.8GB) as a primary, and also setting the SECOND partition ext2 as a primary (1GB). I also tried using gparted and did the same EXACT partition, size and settings in all the different programs. I also tried a mixture of FAT16/FAT32 and ext2 for all the settings. I then tried using ext2fsx on my mac using the same exact settings as before. No matter what, it doesn't mount /system/sd, it always is mounted to /system/sdcard.
(the below are estimated because I was entering all commands in the terminal on my G1)
I'm suppose to see something similar to the following:
dev/mmcblk0p2 1.2G 9.1M 1.1G 1% /system/sd
I always get something to similar to:
dev/mmcblk0p2 1.2G 9.1M 1.1G 1% /system/sdcard
I always see the fat32 partition but never the ext2. I know that alot of people on this forum seem to be able to do this without issue. I unfortunately have been working it on all day.
Can someone PLEASE help me out? Thanks!!!
have you tried moving the apps to sd? see if you actually move all your apps and look at that line again to see if there is an adjustment in size
Which directory does your mountd.conf and init.rc files specify in it if you open them up? Does it say /system/sd or system/sdcard? I believe tempo had his saying system/sdcard and used different files than the ones in the post by dwang that does basically the same thing. I recall one of them using /system/sdcard in their post and the other doing just /system/sd. Use the same file from the same post and don't mix the 2 up because they are not the same.
I used dwang's instructions and files and got my 2GB card partitioned and working. I have had a problem getting my 8gb card working for some reason but that is another story. It seems my 8gb isn't readable or writeable after I partition the ext2 section although the fat32 is ok. I'm familiar with linux but don't know what I need to do to make that partition writeable when I can't get it to show up at all except in gparted and partition manager under windows. I tried busybox df -h without it showing so no luck there...
Hopefully what I metioned helps you and maybe somebody has an idea why mine didn't work either although I wasn't very specific.
I tried both files and mounting on both /system/sd and /sd neither of which worked . I also tried various programs to partition the sd card. I have no other ideas...
Hi,
This is how it should look.
I use an adb shell through the computer (windows xp).
The drive with 1.5g available is the sd card drive.
Non-market apps on SD card issue
Okay... Getting this to work has sucked horribly for me and after rooting through the other forums that would apply to my issue i've found no solution. I have RC33 JFv1.42 LucidREM mod, with /app, /app-private, and /data all copied to the EXT2 partition of my SD card. I am trying to install the AndroidVNC viewer using the AppsInstaller app, I have AndroidVNC saved onto the root of the FAT32 partition of my SD card. The Appsinstaller sees it but when I go to install the .apk itself it's giving me the following error:
"androidVNC could not be viewed. Free up some space on your phone and try again." Giving me a 'cancel,' and 'manage applications' button under.
The error doesn't make any sense because when I login to my terminal as root and # busybox df -h, the only parts of my system that are full are the usual suspects:
/system
/system/modules
/system/xbin
all of which are full, but they always have been for me, so I'm not sure if the Appsinstaller is trying to use one of those blocks to extract to temporarily or something like that. what am i missing here!?!?
bump
Partial App migration to SD card...possible?
Has anyone tried to move only *some* of the apps to the SD card?
I'm stuck with a class 4 mSD card, so as I understand it, moving the apps en masse to the SD card isn't a recommended option.
But I was wondering if perhaps I might move *some* apps to the SD card...maybe just ones that I don't use often, or aren't particularly complicated, or maybe just ones that seem to run perfectly fine from the card.
Some of the "high performance" apps, or ones with a lot of I/O dependency I'd leave on the phone internal storage.
As it stands right now, I'm at total app saturation. I've uninstalled infrequently used apps and have them backed up for ready restoration anytime/anyplace. I've moved every cache possible. Yet even at 13MB free, the phone still complains I don't have enough room to install the latest build of AndNav2.
Should I even attempt a partial migration? I have no paid apps (and apparently couldn't install any even if I wanted to) so I'd just be moving the *.apk file and maybe the *.odex files? Is that all I need to move and then symlink to?
Bump for day crew.....
I'm using this setup. I use my own bash script to move apps:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
# mvappndata.sh 1.1 by Autarkis
# GPL OpenSource
adb remount
adb shell cp -rp /data/app/$1.apk /system/sd/app/$1.apk
adb shell rm /data/app/$1.apk
adb shell ln -s /system/sd/app/$1.apk /data/app/$1.apk
adb shell cp -rp /data/data/$1 /system/sd/data/$1
adb shell rm -r /data/data/$1
adb shell ln -s /system/sd/data/$1 /data/data/$1
You call it with the application's name without the .apk suffix.
Code:
mvappndata.sh com.mobisystems.msdict.embedded.wireless.pons.ssd
Known Bugs:
* apps moved this way don't show as Installed or Updated in Market, but as Free
* sometimes, when you are running out of memory, it won't be possible to install new apps from market - the downloading process will hang right at the beginning. Making even more room does the trick
I leave all apps that are being started at boot time or once started should run as a service in the internal memory. I move all the big apps (like dictionaries) to the SD. It mostly works, but since many apps are buggy themselves it's difficult to tell where a certain Force Close is coming from.
Cheers from Switzerland,
Autarkis
Ah...precisely what I was looking to do. Thanks....that helps a lot.
I'm guessing I can modify the script to run directly on the phone....it appears you have constructed to move apps while connected to a PC via the USB cable. Is this correct?
f4phantomii said:
Ah...precisely what I was looking to do. Thanks....that helps a lot.
I'm guessing I can modify the script to run directly on the phone....it appears you have constructed to move apps while connected to a PC via the USB cable. Is this correct?
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Yes on both counts. I also use ls -laS to display installed apps sorted by size.
looping on android, home button & silent not working on 1.42
Hi,
Had a weird experience the other day. Phone was fine (rooted RC33/JF1.41). Got some AK Notepad reminders but was busy with something so I ignored them (but heard the alert go off). A few minutes later, the phone spontaneously rebooted and from that point on just looped on the android screen.
I figured I was due for an upgrade, so I popped out the sdcard and upgraded to JF1.42. The phone did come back to life, but at that point the home button won't work (wasn't a hardware issue as it worked to get me to the home+power loader) and when I held down power to shut down, I got only the "power off phone" option but no "silent mode" option. Very strange. This was obviously no good, so I went back to 1.41.
Long story short, the phone still looped, so I took this as a sign that a wipe was unavoidable (I didn't have a recent nandroid backup), but since I had WAY too many apps I never used (~200) and my phone was getting unstable (things were constantly force-quitting), I figured I may as well do some spring cleaning and start fresh.
I learned my lesson and finally got the important apps reinstalled and the phone reconfigured the way I want it -- and then did a nandroid backup so I can avoid this in the future.
But what the heck happened that made the buttons not work? That one freaked me out a bit...
And of course I still wonder what caused me to loop in the first place, totally randomly and spontaneously. Are there specific things that can cause that and if it happens again, is there an easy way to fix it?
Thanks
Gah! This is driving me nuts! I absolutely can't make this work.
I can transfer the whole /data/app and /data/data directories to /system/sd, but as I have a class 4 SD card, I get tons of force closes on apps.
So then I try just moving single apps. For example, moving the OI Flashlight app to the sd card.
Code:
# busybox -a /data/app/org.openintents.flashlight.apk /system/sd/app
# rm -r /data/app/org.openintents.flashlight.apk
# ln -s /system/sd/app/org.openintents.flashlight.apk /data/app/org.openintents.flashlight.apk
I do the same thing with the appropriate data directory for the app. I check and the files are moved. The symlinks are present.
But when I try to run the app, it just tells me that the application is not installed on my phone!
Grr! Then if I delete the symlinks and cp the files back to their original locations, same result. I end up having to re-install from backup.
Very frustrating. Any advice?
I don't know what busybox -a does.
It probably shoud say "cp -rp" instead.
It's important that you preserve access rights.
It's also very important that /system/sd is an ext2 partition. vfat won't do.
My script also assumes that as a preparation, /system/sd/app and /system/sd/data have been created. Like that:
Code:
mkdir /system/sd/app
mkdir /system/sd/data
I assumed that was self-explanatory, but it probably wasn't.
unionfs works for this:
have cake and eat it micro-howto:
(Use a recent jf dist)
/system/bin/insmod /system/modules/2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0/kernel/fs/ext2/ext2.ko /system/modules/2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0/kernel/fs/unionfs/unionfs.ko
(partition sd card as described in the aps-on-sd howto)
(mount to /data/local/ext for this example)
mkdir /data/local/ext/app
busybox mount -v -t unionfs -o dirs=/data/local/ext/app=rw:/data/app=ro unionfs /data/app
This has been tested; downloaded apps go to sd card but the system sees apps in /data as well.
The only issue with this is you can't umount the unionfs mount. In theory, you can have writes go to the real /data/app with:
busybox mount -o remount,dirs=/data/local/ext/app=ro:/data/app=rw /data/app
But I have not tested this.
losing storage after moving cache and apps.
Hi all,
I have moved apps to Sd Card.. I have moved cache to sd card and when all is said and done I had 47mb of 74mb free.. YES... but wait..
Now in using my phone I keep losing free space I am now at 45 of 74mb free. How can I found out what is taking my free space up .?
Please help. Thanks in advance for your time.
Well, some of you may have heard my ramblings around here that I've been working with some of the devs here(JF and MartinFick deserve major praise, probably more than me) on getting a better way to do the whole apps to sd thing.
After 3 days of talking/discussing/working on it, I've finally reached the fruits of that investigation and thought I'd share. This new method uses the filesystem unionfs to essentially meld the /data directory with the /system/sd directory, so that they appear to be one. This has the potential to allow users to move specific apps to or from the sd card, is far more stable than the normal symlink method(will still boot, etc even if there's no SD card) and should be easier to set up. Now, onto the tutorial of setting this up.
BIG DISCLAIMER NOTE: This is a major hack of the phone and it is fully possible that it will break your phone(I've seen no permanently bricked phones but that doesn't make it impossible). Use this method, and my app along with it at your own risk.
REQUIREMENTS:
1: This only works on JF(possibly only on 1.5, not sure about the others) and The Dude's v.1.0 or greater. The Dude's 1.0 or greater actually does the steps in this tutorial for you so you can just run appstosd2 and set it all up from there if you're using his ROM.
2: This still requires you to have 2 partitions set up, first FAT32 and second ext2. Although you can use the appstosd2 app attached to this post and available in the market for $0.99 which will partition the card for you.
3: If you want your apps to go to the sd card, you must have a directory "/system/sd/app" If you didn't have apps to sd before on the ext2 partition do the following in terminal emulator or run my appstosd2 app after finishing the tutorial:
Code:
su
mkdir /system/sd/app
If you want the private-apps, or dalvik-cache moved you can replace "app" in that code with ""app-private", or "dalvik-cache" respectively. Do not copy "data" to the sd card. My script will delete it on the next reboot.
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Alright, first there's some files you need.
1: init.rc in .zip attached to this thread
2: a2sd.sh in .zip attached to this thread
All the above listed files should be put on your sd card(my tutorial will assume they are in the root directory of the sdcard(the topmost folder)
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If you need to undo the normal apps to SD first do the following in the recovery terminal(it's not strictly necessary but I'd recommend it):
Code:
mount data
rm /data/app
mkdir /data/app
if you moved the dalvik cache, repeat steps 2-3 with "dalvik-cache" instead of app. Ditto with "data" for the data cache.
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Then go to terminal emulator and type the following:
Code:
su
cp /sdcard/init.rc /data/
cp /sdcard/a2sd.sh /data/
Then reboot and you're set. By default all future apps are installed to the sd card. In order to move an app to the internal memory do the following in terminal emulator:
Code:
su
cp /system/sd/app/[the app you want to move] /system/intmem/app/
rm /system/sd/app/[the app you want to move]
I will be incorporating this into my appstosd app soon(probably as a JF and TheDude-only version until the rest of the devs get on board).
I have included a copy of appstosd 2, which will copy all apps from internal memory to the sd card with an option to remove them from the internal memory. This will only work if you have followed this tutorial.
If you don't have partitions set up, appstosd2 will now do that for you with user-set partition sizes.
NOTE: If you're using The Dude's ROM and find yourself with an outdated version of this since he doesn't always update his ROMs at the same time I update this, do the following in terminal emulator to update(after putting a2sd.sh from the attached a2sd.zip on your sdcard):
Code:
su
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
rm /system/bin/a2sd.sh
cp /sdcard/a2sd.sh /system/bin/
reboot
For JF1.5, do the following to update:
Code:
su
rm /system/intmem/a2sd.sh
rm /system/intmem/init.rc
cp /sdcard/a2sd.sh /system/intmem/
cp /sdcard/init.rc /system/intmem/
reboot
NOTE FOR UPDATERS: If you had your data on the sdcard(/system/sd/data), it WILL GET DELETED with the new version. This is a necessity in order to get both wallpaper and protected apps working. I recommend moving it back to the phone.
EDIT: And here's another tutorial from ThatsBS(might be easier for the less tech savvy to follow?):
I am still learning a lot everyday from this forum. So for people new to this process let me noobify it, if I can, as I am one too.
Start by reading the first page!! Get all the stuff you need from page 1. (apps2sd2.zip and a2sd.zip )
I started from a fresh wipe and flash of jf1.51 adp.
A newly formatted fat32, non partitioned sd.
Put the init.rc and app2sd.sh on the sd (the files NOT the zip)
Then go to the terminal emulator and typed:
su
cp /sdcard/init.rc /data/
cp /sdcard/a2sd.sh /data/
Then reboot
Next I ran the apps2sd 2 app. It will ask you how much to you want to partition. I did 3000mb the first successful time and the dreaded low mem notice would not leave the status bar. I have read not to make it more then 1500mb. Have a good connection, dont force close it. It will reboot.
Next, after the reboot, I ran the apps2sd 2 app again and pressed "copy apps to sd" (let it do its thing)
Reboot.
Next I went back to the emulator and typed:
su
mkdir /system/sd/app-private
mkdir /system/sd/dalvik-cache
Reboot.
Go back to the apps2sd 2 app and hit move dalvik-cache.
Reboot for good measure and your done.
I did this in about 10 mins. Worked flawlessly.
I have a ?, if i have been using your app what dod i do diferent or what should i change?
Thanks
Good job, thanks!
[email protected] said:
will still boot, etc even if there's no sim card
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You mean SD card?
[email protected] said:
Alright, first there's some files you need.
1: unionfs.ko from here:
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JF1.5 build has already unionfs.ko in it, doesn't it? Is there any difference between this unionfs.ko and the one included?
1. I hear unionfs is not really stable at this point, is it true?
2. Why do you want to move the whole /data folder to sd, instead of just /data/app, /data/app-private?
3. You might want to add a command to remove previous app2sd changes (i.e. delete symlinks, create folders.)
4. How do you put selected apps to internal memory after this? Copying to /data will copy to sd card again.
The whole idea is really interesting! Thank you for your work!
ArmandHammer said:
I have a ?, if i have been using your app what dod i do diferent or what should i change?
Thanks
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You don't have to do anything different. It will find all the apps you put on the sd card. If you want to set the phone back to normal(so the phone memory apps can still be there), you can do the following in the recovery terminal:
Code:
mount data
rm /data/app
rm /data/dalvik-cache (only if you moved the dalvik-cache)
mkdir /data/app
mkdir /data/dalvik-cache
@Dimath: yes, I did mean SD card, good catch
1:JF didn't mention it and from a little bit of using it, it seems stable to me. Plus, no matter how much I've screwed up, I haven't managed to boot loop my phone yet.
2: You could just mount those independently. I might end up doing that eventually but for now the way it is works for reasons I'll get to.
3: True, although it's not strictly necessary. If apps2sd already works, this won't break it. I'll put in a guide on undoing the symlink method
4: Actually, no. My script sets the internal memory as the main file system in the union, so apps automatically go there. Moving apps to the sd card just involves copying them to /system/sd.
Ok, just a little confusing.
I didn't use the apps2sd to move apps over to my SD card. What I did was set it with the busybox ls command. I guess that's the symlink.
My question is, if I didn't use apps2sd, can I still use your method? I also moved the dalvik cache also, everything works fine for me now, my apps go directly to the SD card when installing since my memory stays at around 65 MB no matter what I do.
Just need some laymen terms to help me understand that if I'm NOT using apps2sd, and I just linked them with the recovery method, what's my pitfalls / advantages?
Thanks.
larrygates said:
Ok, just a little confusing.
I didn't use the apps2sd to move apps over to my SD card. What I did was set it with the busybox ls command. I guess that's the symlink.
My question is, if I didn't use apps2sd, can I still use your method? I also moved the dalvik cache also, everything works fine for me now, my apps go directly to the SD card when installing since my memory stays at around 65 MB no matter what I do.
Just need some laymen terms to help me understand that if I'm NOT using apps2sd, and I just linked them with the recovery method, what's my pitfalls / advantages?
Thanks.
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Yes, any other method of apps to sd currently uses the same symlink method, so following the directions as if you installed my app will work. A note though is that all future apps will install to the internal memory by default. I did that because it's MUCH easier to move apps from the memory to the sd card than vice versa. You can use the code I posted if you want it the other way around.
would this also work for /data/data and app-private?
or is this particular setup only for dalvik-cache and app?
oh and before I do this, just wondering, so in theory, since I have a 1.5GB ext2 partition, my free memory will be 1.573GB (1.5GB + 73Mb internal)? The internal memory will just run down and switch over to the sdcard when needed (but be seen as one filesystem)?
andonnguyen said:
would this also work for /data/data and app-private?
or is this particular setup only for dalvik-cache and app?
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This works for the whole /data folder and everything under it. Everything is automatically installed to the phone memory right now so you can just move over anything you don't want on it(will be making an app to do this automatically)
EDIT: oh and anything you already moved over to the sd card will still show up.
Code:
su
mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
cp /sdcard/unionfs.ko /system/
cp /sdcard/init.rc /data/
cp /runme.sh /data/
cp /sdcard/a2sd.sh /data/
I see, when I run these lines of code (I can do this from adb also right using adb remount) this IS the new symlink method. It's just all at one time without me having to manually link anything.
Right?
larrygates said:
Code:
su
mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
cp /sdcard/unionfs.ko /system/
cp /sdcard/init.rc /data/
cp /runme.sh /data/
cp /sdcard/a2sd.sh /data/
I see, when I run these lines of code (I can do this from adb also right using adb remount) this IS the new symlink method. It's just all at one time without me having to manually link anything.
Right?
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Wrong, no symlinks here. Pure unionfs goodness. Basically it convinces the operating system that /data and /system/sd are the same thing. So anything that's on /system/sd shows up under /data but everything that's normally under /data is still there. Think of it like what happens in windows when you merge folders with the same name, but in this case in actuality everything stays exactly where it was.
New news: If you haven't seen it, I updated this tutorial(and the scripts with it) quite a bit and would now consider it to be completely fully functional.
Also The Dude will be sending me an advance copy of his next ROM tomorrow to verify it works. In his build the apps to sd will be automatic, with no user setup(although if you want apps on the sd card you'll have to make an app directory under /system/sd(mkdir /system/sd/app), ditto for dalvik-cache and data).
Finally, I will attempt to add this into my apps to sd app tonight, thus rounding out everything I can do.
After all this, the only thing left is for Haykuro to build it into his ROM and me to make an app to move specific apps to/from the sd card automatically.
This will no doubt be the method of choice in no time. Great work. Sticky?
If anyone dl'd the latest version(that fixed the race condition, etc), please download the one I just put up. I made that one in windows and I believe the funky carraige return(that indicates a new line) that windows uses screwed it up
So I got some kind of error, and I don't know what is going on.
I put in all the lines in the terminal emulator app..
but after line cp /runme.sh /data/ it gives me an error
it says "cp: cannot stat '/runme.sh': No such file or directory
Any help? I rooted my phone just so I could run my apps off of my SD card.. and now I can't figure out how to get it to work. Somebody help me please.
GTASouthPark said:
So I got some kind of error, and I don't know what is going on.
I put in all the lines in the terminal emulator app..
but after line cp /runme.sh /data/ it gives me an error
it says "cp: cannot stat '/runme.sh': No such file or directory
Any help? I rooted my phone just so I could run my apps off of my SD card.. and now I can't figure out how to get it to work. Somebody help me please.
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Which ROM is this? JF1.5 should have runme.sh there...
[email protected] said:
Which ROM is this? JF1.5 should have runme.sh there...
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Ok, I am going to re-partition my memory card.. and then re flash to JF1.5 and try it again.
Just tried it, one issue I'm seeing is android seems to install [email protected]@[email protected] into /system/intmem/dalvik-cache at boot. Is there anyway to have that only in my dalvik-cache on the sdcard?
Its a fairly large file at 3megs so I want it to reside solely on the sdcard and even if I delete it from intmem, whenever I reboot it gets added again.
Now when I display the internal phone storage from the settings menu, it shows up at 835 megs.
I wonder if this is possible to use unionfs and make an ext2 fs object as a file on the FAT fs. That way no 2nd partition is necessary. Plus, if you remove the sdcard, everything will still work.
Maybe we could combine unionfs and this method that uses an ext2 image on the fat32 for apps to sd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3402947&postcount=687
mkefs can be downloaded here:
http://sites.google.com/site/juanjosec/android
dwang said:
I wonder if this is possible to use unionfs and make an ext2 fs object as a file on the FAT fs. That way no 2nd partition is necessary. Plus, if you remove the sdcard, everything will still work.
Maybe we could combine unionfs and this method that uses an ext2 image on the fat32 for apps to sd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3402947&postcount=687
mkefs can be downloaded here:
http://sites.google.com/site/juanjosec/android
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I've been looking at that possibility with JF and MartinFick as well, seems like it could be a good plan but I wanted to get this bit done first. It's a good point about the dalvik-cache, but in order to fix it JF(in this case) would have to change /init.rc to make sure to do this bit before building the dalvik-cache.
Can't download apps from market
hmm so I didn't hit any errors when doing this, but afterwards I am unable to download any apps from the market. It just continually says "Starting Download..." Everything else seems to work well.
I had this same issue when I tried to manually setup apps to sd using the symbolic links. I narrowed the issue down and figured out this only occurred after I moved the dalvik-cache over to the sd card. I'm assuming I'm doing something wrong, but can't seem to figure it out. Any pointers in a general direction would be most helpful
I'm using JFv1.50 ADP1.5, not the modded version by LucidREM. For some reason the bootloader couldn't pickup his version on my phone and --edit-- I'm pretty sure I have the SD card partitioned correctly... everything else seemed to work ok. The ext2 partition shows up as the correct size
*EDIT* So apparently my issue was the SD card as well. Just did a format of the sd card and it fixed it. I also formatted data and cache (alt+w in recovery mode). Thanks MarcusMaximus!
[email protected] said:
New news: If you haven't seen it, I updated this tutorial(and the scripts with it) quite a bit and would now consider it to be completely fully functional.
Also The Dude will be sending me an advance copy of his next ROM tomorrow to verify it works. In his build the apps to sd will be automatic, with no user setup(although if you want apps on the sd card you'll have to make an app directory under /system/sd(mkdir /system/sd/app), ditto for dalvik-cache and data).
Finally, I will attempt to add this into my apps to sd app tonight, thus rounding out everything I can do.
After all this, the only thing left is for Haykuro to build it into his ROM and me to make an app to move specific apps to/from the sd card automatically.
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If I have apps2SD and the dalvik-cache both moved on the dudes builds already, do I still have to create those directories or will my existing setup still work fine? I would like to know what kind of issues I may run into when the dude releases .95 with this (hopefully, not getting my hopes up just in case).
I'm just curious, i'm pretty sure everything went well for me as for apps2sd... but i was wondering what is the 100% official no bs way to know if you have all your apps on your sd card along with the cache and it's no longer on your internal memory? i mean i only have 33 apps installed but i only have 67mb free on internal memory... i cleared my browser cache along with my market cache and only have 67mb free... any idea anyone?
i just cleared my faebook cache in app management and it jumped to 69mb free. so i'm taking it that my apps are on my sd card but my cache isnt? how do i go about doing this without messing everything up? any idea anyone please?
i forgot to mention...
8GB SDHC SanDisk Ultra Class 6
Rooted JF v1.5
33 Apps 69MB Free
Overclocked @ 528Mhz (Max) 384Mhz (Min)
AppsToSd (At least i think lol)
Well if you want to make sure the sym links are there, the best way i know is to connect the phone to your pc
adb remount
adb shell
cd /data/app
cd ..
ls
if you end up in /system/sd directory then you know its a sym link.
on another note as for the free space, the cache is held in the /data/data directory. I have the below folders moved to sd and have prob around 70+ apps installed and have 73 meg free. FYI also i remember reading somewhere that when you move folders off to the sd partition, nand does not back them up because nand does a bit for bit read of the flash chip on the phone and since that data is no longer on the flash it isnt backed up. Just something to think about if you want this info backed up.
/data/app
/data/app-private
/data/dalvik-cache
/data/data
Furthermore, if you move your cache to sd, put a symlink in and clear cache afterwards it will delete that symlink. You don't need to clear your caches after moving them, you should do it before they are moved.
Good luck.
MonkySlap said:
Well if you want to make sure the sym links are there, the best way i know is to connect the phone to your pc
adb remount
adb shell
cd /data/app
cd ..
ls
if you end up in /system/sd directory then you know its a sym link.
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i'm usually good with following directions, but if i come across something i don't understand i will usually research it, but i can't find straight forward answers, i just wanna say i appreciate you guys helpin me out. this is what i got when i did what you suggested
# cd /data/app
cd /data/app
# cd..
cd..
cd..: not found
# cd ..
cd ..
# ls
ls
app app-private dalvik-cache lost+found
i don't understand what this means...
borodin1 said:
Furthermore, if you move your cache to sd, put a symlink in and clear cache afterwards it will delete that symlink. You don't need to clear your caches after moving them, you should do it before they are moved.
Good luck.
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i don't know what a sym link this, this is actually the first time i've heard of a sym link... know where i can go to get directions on how to get this done? i've tried everything i was able to find on this forum which led me to ask you guys =/. sorry if i come off as a n00b i can usually figure things out myself but when i'm stuck somewhere... this is my only option. thanks in advance.
just type
su
ls -l data
if you see app -> /system/sd/app
then you know you linked up correctly
same would go for any other linked directory
app-private -> /system/sd/app-private
dalvik-cache -> /system/sd/dalvik-cache
etc.
beagz said:
just type
su
ls -l data
if you see app -> /system/sd/app
then you know you linked up correctly
same would go for any other linked directory
app-private -> /system/sd/app-private
dalvik-cache -> /system/sd/dalvik-cache
etc.
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i think i messed everything up now... lol i followed somebodies instructions and all my apps werent working anymore, so i go to install them again but the market says they're installed already, so i uninstalled and tried to reinstall n now everytime it downloads and tries to reinstall my phone reboots... argh i didn't think it was gonna be soo complicated to get apps and cache working off of my sdcard.
There is a space between cd and ..
Cd<space>..
Sym link means symbolic links. Think of it as a shortcut that exists inside the folder. so when you type in cd /data/app u r accually going into /system/sd/data
madunix said:
# cd /data/app
cd /data/app
# cd..
cd..
cd..: not found
# cd ..
cd ..
# ls
ls
app app-private dalvik-cache lost+found
i don't understand what this means...
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that is the files and folders in that directory, think of it as the same as doing a "dir" command in windows. But from the output you got /data/app is setup correctly to go to the sd card.
Ok.. I hate to tell you this but... may be you're better off just do it all over again.
Wipe, install clean copy of JF 1.5, wipe again, run apps2sd application by MarcussMaximus, delete cache folders on SD and then move your caches to sd manually from terminal emulator
I found a really good set of directions here
Make sure you understand though how it's done before attempting.
And the best way to tell is to note how much free space is on your phone after clean install, after moving everything and after using your phone for a few days.
Good luck.
Terminal emulator.
su
cd /data/app
pwd
It should say /system/sd/app
jimmytango said:
Terminal emulator.
su
cd /data/app
pwd
It should say /system/sd/app
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thank you.
borodin1 said:
Ok.. I hate to tell you this but... may be you're better off just do it all over again.
Wipe, install clean copy of JF 1.5, wipe again, run apps2sd application by MarcussMaximus, delete cache folders on SD and then move your caches to sd manually from terminal emulator
I found a really good set of directions here
Make sure you understand though how it's done before attempting.
And the best way to tell is to note how much free space is on your phone after clean install, after moving everything and after using your phone for a few days.
Good luck.
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i pretty much did, i used the lucidrem jf 1.5 and it went soo smoothly, im running about 50+ apps and got 73mb of internal memory free, and i checked that site u linked in ur post, thats a great tutorial site on moving certain cache.
I haven't yet found an answer on how to move apps back to internal memory after applying MoDaCo's ROM. Does anyone have the answer?
Can you not adb pull the app off of the sdcard and the adb push them to /system/app?
ekinnee said:
Can you not adb pull the app off of the sdcard and the adb push them to /system/app?
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format your memory card to fat32 and then do a "factory reset"
ap2sd doesn't support fat32 and it will just place your apps "where they should be" trying to reverse ap2sd would be a big pain in the ass
*note this will wipe your phone*
But why /system/app?
The /system partition only shows 12 MB free for me. The /data partition is where apps normally are, right? My /data partition shows 91 MB free when I df -h, and my phone reports that it has 91 MB of free internal memory. So they should go on the /data partition, right?
I am new to the site and I dont know how to create a new post so I am going to address my issue here. the other day I downloaded a Iphone theme for my touch pro (Raphael) and now I cannot figure out how to restore it bak to the factory settings. I have done numerous hard resets and nothing has worked!!! HELP ME PLEASE!
At least put it in the right forum. This is the Hero forum.
jonnythan said:
But why /system/app?
The /system partition only shows 12 MB free for me. The /data partition is where apps normally are, right? My /data partition shows 91 MB free when I df -h, and my phone reports that it has 91 MB of free internal memory. So they should go on the /data partition, right?
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are you talking about stock apps or market apps.... they are located in 2 different areas
/system/app -stock
/data/app -market
OR if you wanna get fancy /system/sd/app -market apps with ap2sd installed
I am talking about market apps. I want to move, for example, EasyMoney back to internal memory. There appears to be no way to do it though.
you must be pretty serious about moving them....alright well don't say I didn't warn you about it being a PITA
Code:
mv /system/sd/app/{name of your app} /data/local
*reboot phone with sd card removed*
*hope phone doesn't lock up on you*
Code:
mv /data/local/{name of your app} /data/app
*reboot into recovery and format sd card to fat32 only*
/data/app is a symlink to /system/sd/app.
If I move something to /data/app it goes into /system/sd/app. Which is right where it started.
I'm not sure I'm being understood here. We have apps2sd, which is great. I have a 500 MB partition for my apps. But now I've got 100 MB of internal memory on the phone that I can't use for apps.
I'd like to use some of that for my most frequently used apps.
jonnythan said:
/data/app is a symlink to /system/sd/app.
If I move something to /data/app it goes into /system/sd/app. Which is right where it started.
I'm not sure I'm being understood here. We have apps2sd, which is great. I have a 500 MB partition for my apps. But now I've got 100 MB of internal memory on the phone that I can't use for apps.
I'd like to use some of that for my most frequently used apps.
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what I was suggesting was moving it from the link on the sd card to local storage, breaking the link, then moving it to where the link originally pointed before ap2sd. Then finally making it so the link will not be recreated.
I understand what you are saying now, but I don't know how you set that variable.... or if it that can even be done. If so, it can't be done easily.
what you're asking is like makeing a raid setup with your nand and your sd card... that's well beyond what I'm capable of doing.
I've moved several stock apps back and forth between /system/sd/app and /system/app without any problems. Reboot after move is a good idea though.
For market apps there might be an issue when upgrading if they are in the /system/app directory, but I haven't tested that.
flactemnad said:
I've moved several stock apps back and forth between /system/sd/app and /system/app without any problems. Reboot after move is a good idea though.
For market apps there might be an issue when upgrading if they are in the /system/app directory, but I haven't tested that.
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there will be a problem, android market will not mount /system/app when it goes to update an app from the market. I tried this by accident by copying a a stock app and installing it over it's self (was testing a way to easily remove a stock app) locked the phone up.
There is probally no HUGE advantage in having the stock apps on the sd card as most of them (the ones accessed frequently... widgets etc) would be accessed from the much slower sd card as apposed to the much faster NAND.
The reboot is almost required if the app is running, if you do manage to move the file that's not in the middle of a read you'll get the dreaded com.android.core popup (infinately repeated unable to work around) So it's highly suggested that the app is not running in the backround, or widget on the desktop.
I also highly reccomend the restart when attempting to move apps from your /data/app or /system/sd/app note /system/sd/app is mounted... but not to be confused with any other part of /system
by mistake i deleted the visual voicemail app that comes with the phone and i was wondering if somebody could help me putting it back into the phone, i have the .apk file on my computer already
johnsongrantr said:
there will be a problem, android market will not mount /system/app when it goes to update an app from the market. I tried this by accident by copying a a stock app and installing it over it's self (was testing a way to easily remove a stock app) locked the phone up.
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Thanks for the heads up. I don't have any market apps installed under /system/app, but I do have some stock apps on the sd that I can easily move back to straighten things out to a more proper setup.
aim1126 said:
by mistake i deleted the visual voicemail app that comes with the phone and i was wondering if somebody could help me putting it back into the phone, i have the .apk file on my computer already
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nvm found an app on the market called apk installer, worked perfectly
Hey! I have been following the forum pretty well for months now and I love it that there's so much of progress. I am a big fan of Pranjal's Rom and am currently running v4.2 which has Link2SD as a sys app (which btw is a sexy app )
Ok so here's the problem :| When I tried to update a couple of apps I found that my internal storage is almost full This was surprising to me coz i autolink all my apps using Link2SD. I don't even have that much files. So I formatted my second partition, made it ext 4 and again installed a couple of apps.
Here's the thing. The apps seem to be linking to the second partition, but annoyingly enough they are also taking space in my internal storage. Can someone help? I really need space :|
@pranjal18
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Hey! I have been following the forum pretty well for months now and I love it that there's so much of progress. I am a big fan of Pranjal's Rom and am currently running v4.2 which has Link2SD as a sys app (which btw is a sexy app )
Ok so here's the problem :| When I tried to update a couple of apps I found that my internal storage is almost full This was surprising to me coz i autolink all my apps using Link2SD. I don't even have that much files. So I formatted my second partition, made it ext 4 and again installed a couple of apps.
Here's the thing. The apps seem to be linking to the second partition, but annoyingly enough they are also taking space in my internal storage. Can someone help? I really need space :|
@pranjal18
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that's normall.....extend ur ext-sd partition....ow....and try hd2sd by @hillbeast ....it'll move ur dalvik-cache and more of apps tobur ext-sd than link2sd ....or...use kyrillos13's app2sdv2 script ....it does the same
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madmanmatt616 said:
Hey! I have been following the forum pretty well for months now and I love it that there's so much of progress. I am a big fan of Pranjal's Rom and am currently running v4.2 which has Link2SD as a sys app (which btw is a sexy app )
Ok so here's the problem :| When I tried to update a couple of apps I found that my internal storage is almost full This was surprising to me coz i autolink all my apps using Link2SD. I don't even have that much files. So I formatted my second partition, made it ext 4 and again installed a couple of apps.
Here's the thing. The apps seem to be linking to the second partition, but annoyingly enough they are also taking space in my internal storage. Can someone help? I really need space :|
@pranjal18
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thanks @madmanmatt616
since you've formatted your partition, i would suggest you to reflash the whole rom again and run the script in terminal emulator (mentioned in read me file)
your problem had a very easy solution
in link2sd press menu>>more
here you have a few options...touch all the options below "recreate mount scripts"...and , "link dalvik-cache files" and "clean up teh dalvik cache" will give you more internal space!!
the problem could be that the data of the apps are collected in /data/data/"appfolder"
you can figure out with Titanium, which apps are using most space: menu-> overview of app storage use. then u can outsource the folder to sd-ext and make a symlink in /data/data to the outsourced folder.
mankokoma said:
the problem could be that the data of the apps are collected in /data/data/"appfolder"
you can figure out with Titanium, which apps are using most space: menu-> overview of app storage use. then u can outsource the folder to sd-ext and make a symlink in /data/data to the outsourced folder.
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Can you tell me exactly how to outsource to sd-ext? Just a copy paste would do? Then you suggested a symlink. I do understand why you told this, thing is I am clueless on how to link only one. As far as I could understand, link2sd creates such links from /data/app to the sd-ext. How do I create a link for /data/data/"appfolder" ?
I hope what I said makes sense . Thank you
sorry, so short on time...
MAKE A BACKUP FIRST, JUST IN CASE!
- copy & paste the whole folder to sd-ext with terminal emulator or adb shell:
cp -Rp /data/data/nameoffolder /sd-ext/nameoffolder
- delete the folder in /data/data:
rm -rf /data/data/nameoffolder
symlink:
ln -s /sd-ext/nameoffolder /data/data/nameoffolder