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(woo first post ^_^)
So.. umm yeah i expect there are a thousand of these posts around here and you're all fed up with talking about them. But i need to ask you people this...
XDA Mini S (i think this one is the "wizard" right?) or XDA Atom???
Simple issue here... i like the idea of the keyboard on the XDA Mini S, but im not sure if the processor is going to be up to scratch.
And i like the fact the atom has more processing power and a 2MPixel camera (but thats really not that important to me).
So... What would you suggest?
caff.

I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard

ahh, i wish but no sorry.. im stuck with xda's as its an upgrade from o2 im getting.
if the processor in the xda mini s is good enough for pretty much everything then ill get that
caff.

No, but presumably O2 would launch something like Xda Mini S2

... and you can always port your number. At the moment T-Mobile look well ahead with their tarrifs.

caff said:
ahh, i wish but no sorry.. im stuck with xda's as its an upgrade from o2 im getting.
if the processor in the xda mini s is good enough for pretty much everything then ill get that
caff.
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I have seen no problem with the O2 mini S processor speed. You have to remember that the processor speed looks slow, but in reality you are not comparing like with like, this is a Texas Instruments chip, with a different command set to other chips you are comparing it with.
I can run all the applications that I want, TomTom for example funs faster on here than on my Dell X5 (400 Mhz).
The one thing you have to remember is that you are not running a Pentium4 3Ghz 2Gig RAM 250Gb Hard drive machine, but a PDA with phone capabilities.
For me, its all I want in a phone/PDA I would not be without mine now.

raymondu999 said:
I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard
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I have a Universal, and a colleague just got one of the new JAM's this week (not the Hermes itself obviously), and I have to say, it makes me kinda want the same form factor again.
Sure I love the laptop type clamshell of the Universal, but usually end up holding the thing flat anyhow when the keyboard is out.
I like the protection a clamshell provides, but I can buy a case.
I like the SD card, but I don't swap my SD with my camera any more, and you can get 1GB Micro SD cards today.
I like the VGA screen, but I wonder if 640x480 is one reason why some map progs seem a bit more sluggish compared to my old slower-processored JAM?
Now that I can get a JAM-sized phone/PDA with 3G, I'm definitely buying the Hermes from T-Mobile when they release it in June as the MDA Vario II.

yeah bilbo i thinik your right, its all to do with comparisons.
but im pretty sure the omap 850 chip has a better cache then the intel chips in the xda IIi. So i think it will probably be ok
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
caff.

caff said:
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
caff.
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One thing to remember when you go to the O2 Shop is that they will charge you £79.99 for the phone on a contract that is less than £45 per month...... unless you ask then not to.
I got my XDA-mini-S soon after they came out. I went to the O2 Shop, looked interested until the guy said there was a charge. After very little he said that to get me on board an O2 tariff he would drop the charge.
Remeber they can and will drop the charge, if not go to walk out and see what they say.
Good luck

raymondu999 said:
I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard
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Looking at the info on the Hermes, I think it has the same 416Mhz IntelXscale processor that my Dell X5 had 5 years go?
Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications.

bilbo_28 said:
Looking at the info on the Hermes, I think it has the same 416Mhz IntelXscale processor that my Dell X5 had 5 years go?
Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications.
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I think it has a 300MHz Samsung? But you're right - "Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications", which is why I'm not worried about it's 300MHz.

bilbo_28 said:
caff said:
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
caff.
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One thing to remember when you go to the O2 Shop is that they will charge you £79.99 for the phone on a contract that is less than £45 per month...... unless you ask then not to.
I got my XDA-mini-S soon after they came out. I went to the O2 Shop, looked interested until the guy said there was a charge. After very little he said that to get me on board an O2 tariff he would drop the charge.
Remeber they can and will drop the charge, if not go to walk out and see what they say.
Good luck
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Good advice, thanks
ill be going in on wednesday to purchase it, so ill let you all know how it goes
caff.

One thing that no one seems to mention is the screen. The atom has an 18 bit screen and that can give a hit on performance for graphic intensive programs. The transfer of those 18 bits as oppsed to the 16 in most other ppc is ineficient and for games = bad.

Which phone ...

Ok, so I have a decision to make, and only till Wednesday to make it ...
Currently, I have the Palm Treo Pro. It's a GOOD phone, I LOVE the keyboard and I love how small/light it is. I DO NOT like the proprietary USB of the "end" key as its uber sensitive. Also, most of my programs don't work on the screen (OliveTree Bible, Mud Inc. Pocket Cribbage, and Handmark Monopoly V1) ... so my other options are
HTC Diamond - I get $ back, but, I lose microSD Card or HTC Pro, I pay around $100 more, but I get the microSD Card slot and sliding keyboard.
WiFi is important, and I should point out, I am on the TELUS Network.

HTC touch Pro 2
There are many same subject threads on XDA with further information....

galaxys said:
HTC touch Pro 2
There are many same subject threads on XDA with further information....
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hmmm TP2 ain't on Telus ... not yet ... not till the end of '09 / early '10 when they turn on their UMTS/HSPA

kepp this phone until tocu pro 2 comes out

One more for TP2
Is not the "Perfecrt" device but is one of the best candidates available

THIS IS NOT THE TOUCH PRO 2! This is the Touch Pro. Version 1. Telus Mobility DOES NOT HAVE TP2 yet and won't till probably December or January ...

I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.

_Allan_ said:
THIS IS NOT THE TOUCH PRO 2! This is the Touch Pro. Version 1. Telus Mobility DOES NOT HAVE TP2 yet and won't till probably December or January ...
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On thatcase just erase the 2, I´ll go for TP!
kareem9nba said:
I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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You are right mate

kareem9nba said:
I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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I can't wait 14-18 months for the TP2 (which is about how long Telus will take to get it *L* as they have ONLY had the Treo Pro for about a month!) ... I think I'll go on Wednesday and get the Touch Pro.

Then why don't U buy it unlocked from another country next month

Because Telus is CDMA but soon (2010) to be UMTS/HSPA

_Allan_ said:
hmmm TP2 ain't on Telus ... not yet ... not till the end of '09 / early '10 when they turn on their UMTS/HSPA
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Where on Earth do you live???? Sahara??? Middle of the Atlantic ocean?
Ok some usefull info for you:
Diamond - has serious heat issues and its very well know to fry its own screen. HTC are constantly fighting people and refusing to repair faulty units. I owned one and then returned it as it could also not play music without jumping/skipping. Both these issues can be easily found by going to the Diamond section of these forums.
TouchPro - (not the TP2 as everyone else seems to have got confused over) Never owned one so comments are limited to what can be read on this forum but, I miss having a keyboard and am now ordering an Asus on Monday that has a keyboard. Typing an email on the Diamond was a pain in the a*&e and its only marginaly easier on the bigger screen of my Omnia.
Palm thingy - never owned one, never used one. Can't comment.
If I HAD to chose between these then in all honesty, i'd probably keep the Palm! Why? HTC build quality sucks donkey balls. Its a well known and easily googled reputation. Its a shame really as they spec out the phones very well and seem to have every intention of making excellent devices, just somewhere the penny pinchers seem to take control and quality drops.
Best of luck with whatever you chose today
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Diamond overheat issue - dont think anymore needs to be said on this
Music link - with $125 reward for fix
Music link - check out how many pages!
And just for good measure, another music link
Very quick google brings up over 32000 hits on hardware quality

galaxys said:
Then why don't U buy it unlocked from another country next month
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Maybe the guy doesn't have/want to spend hundreds of £/€/$ on a phone?

OK so ... I was downtown yesterday, getting my Security Guard License and walked through Toronto Eaton Centre ... and I picked up the Touch Pro.
So far, I'm happy. I'm still testing things out and seeing what is good etc but ALL my games work, all my programs work AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED to, and I'm happy ...

Monty Burns said:
Maybe the guy doesn't have/want to spend hundreds of £/€/$ on a phone?
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Especially a phone that only does 3G at 2100MHz to use in a country that uses 850/1900.

[Q] Viewsonic g tablet ram upgrade

My G-Tablet came with 512 mhz of Ram is there an easu way to upgrade the ram at home?

bump, please, someone have the answer to this. i am also interested if it is possible to upgrade the hd.

Mine has 512 megabytes of usb power and a terebyte of processor wtf @@
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beleedat said:
Hahaha made my day. thank you.
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Mog, and the other two...
Why do you guys make fun of these questions?
They obviously have a legitament question which you can be answerd. No need to answer in the way you did.
First of all, The Gtab, in essence is a Malata zpad. And the T2 version was offered with 1gig of ram... If you did some reaserch you can see this. It is a legitament question.
I never took apart a GTab so I have no idea if its possible.
As far as the hard drive, you could have mentioned to them that it uses a flash based memory and may not be upgradable.
Was that so hard?
Reading responses like this is the reason why I don't like to comment on this forum.

MALUMAN said:
Reading responses like this is the reason why I don't like to comment on this forum.
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God's sentence!

Interesting
I'll take my gTablet apart later when I get home from work and let you know if the RAM is soldered onto the board or if you can swap it out. My guess is that it's soldered.

I've taken mine apart and it's not like a PC or netbook where you have SIMM slots to add / change RAM - it's a chip soldered onto the board.
With that in mind - it may not be impossible, but definitely not an easy task, imo.

roebeet said:
I've taken mine apart and it's not like a PC or netbook where you have SIMM slots to add / change RAM - it's a chip soldered onto the board.
With that in mind - it may not be impossible, but definitely not an easy task, imo.
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SIMM Slots? Thanks for that flashback.

rr5678 said:
SIMM Slots? Thanks for that flashback.
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SIMM slots, math co-processors and HS/Link. Ah, the good old days...

*facepalm*
First of all. 512MB of RAM, DIMM slots, etc... My head hurts.
Brief spark of flame... Onto the help.
In my brief stint at staples, I saw the release of the G Tablet. And VERY quickly saw its recall. Whether you are running the original or their "fixed" edition, common sense derives you should get out from under that thing and get a much better tablet (anything not made by ViewSonic would be a GREAT start).
Now, onto what I do know about upgrading Soldered RAM. In almost ALL cases pertaining to ram that is soldered to the motherboard, it is almost impossible to upgrade it in anyway. I say "almost" because there is one exception I know of to date.
The original Xbox (ohhhhh, i miss that big black brick!!!). It came stock with 64MB of internal RAM. Soldered to the board. But there were 4 extra "slots" to solder down additional RAM as long as it was RAM from the same generation board (as there were a total of 8 or 9 different editions of the xbox motherboard released) and it was done CAREFULLY.
I highly doubt that viewsonic had any need or want to allow for expandability in their horrible excuse for a tablet (seriously, I think the nook color is faster than that pile of garbage). So my general answer (thanks to process of elimination) is NO, it will not be possible.
Have a nice day!

Cool to know
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AngelosDracul said:
First of all. 512MB of RAM, DIMM slots, etc... My head hurts.
Brief spark of flame... Onto the help.
In my brief stint at staples, I saw the release of the G Tablet. And VERY quickly saw its recall. Whether you are running the original or their "fixed" edition, common sense derives you should get out from under that thing and get a much better tablet (anything not made by ViewSonic would be a GREAT start).
Now, onto what I do know about upgrading Soldered RAM. In almost ALL cases pertaining to ram that is soldered to the motherboard, it is almost impossible to upgrade it in anyway. I say "almost" because there is one exception I know of to date.
The original Xbox (ohhhhh, i miss that big black brick!!!). It came stock with 64MB of internal RAM. Soldered to the board. But there were 4 extra "slots" to solder down additional RAM as long as it was RAM from the same generation board (as there were a total of 8 or 9 different editions of the xbox motherboard released) and it was done CAREFULLY.
I highly doubt that viewsonic had any need or want to allow for expandability in their horrible excuse for a tablet (seriously, I think the nook color is faster than that pile of garbage). So my general answer (thanks to process of elimination) is NO, it will not be possible.
Have a nice day!
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Stop using effing Tap'nTap and throw a custom ROM on there and stop whining.

You talking to me or the OP?
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AngelosDracul said:
You talking to me or the OP?
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I was talking to you. Now my original post may be a bit harsh, but I'm sick of hearing the complaints about Viewsonic's stock software. Everyone knows it sucks ass. That's why there's ROMs like Vegan-Tab. Try that out, see if it changes your mind about this tablet.

rr5678 said:
I was talking to you. Now my original post may be a bit harsh, but I'm sick of hearing the complaints about Viewsonic's stock software. Everyone knows it sucks ass. That's why there's ROMs like Vegan-Tab. Try that out, see if it changes your mind about this tablet.
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+1000
I bought one just to dabble around with since my HP laptop that I was using for web surfing died. tried the stock ROM, holy s***, what a pile. Put Vegan Tab on it and it is quite a nice tablet now. Of course I did my research, and decided that I don't need 1 GB RAM especially with the improved performance of the Vegan ROM. But, if I decide to go the internal GPS route, I might go for some RAM too while I'm in there if it is possible.
EDIT: Just noticed, I have been on here for almost a year, and this is my first post.

rr5678 said:
I was talking to you. Now my original post may be a bit harsh, but I'm sick of hearing the complaints about Viewsonic's stock software. Everyone knows it sucks ass. That's why there's ROMs like Vegan-Tab. Try that out, see if it changes your mind about this tablet.
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Hmmm. I was not talking about the software. I was talking about the sad excuse for original hardware. You might have gotten it AFTER the recall. But they RECALLED it for a reason. My store got 100 of them in at launch, and all of them got recalled within the following month. Why? The GPU's were built wrong. And I had a few customers flash custom ROMs and still had the same issues.
Thanks for the clarity, though. We were apparently talking about two different generations of tablets.
And either way. I hate everything Viewsonic makes. Spend another 50 bucks and get a better quality piece of hardware. I have never had anything but trouble with ANY of their products in the 7 years I have been in electronics retail.

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Hmmm. I was not talking about the software. I was talking about the sad excuse for original hardware. You might have gotten it AFTER the recall. But they RECALLED it for a reason. My store got 100 of them in at launch, and all of them got recalled within the following month. Why? The GPU's were built wrong. And I had a few customers flash custom ROMs and still had the same issues.
Thanks for the clarity, though. We were apparently talking about two different generations of tablets.
And either way. I hate everything Viewsonic makes. Spend another 50 bucks and get a better quality piece of hardware. I have never had anything but trouble with ANY of their products in the 7 years I have been in electronics retail.
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I got one of the original units a month after it came out. When I got it, there were no issues whatsoever after flashing a custom ROM. It got sent back during one of my "dumbass wanna-be dev" moments (I tried to get Windows CE on it and flashed the wrong BCT)
My 2nd one had a busted screen
3rd a busted screen LED backlight
and now the 4th is on it's way out (it thinks it's charging all......the.....time)
All my units are before the recall.
(and Tapn'Tap is still one huge Pileo'**** )

Did not want to "Flame" you with my last response. But it seems that your history with the device is kind of shot. lol. There are just so many problems with the VS name, that I gave up on them YEARS ago when I first started selling Home Theater and Computer tech with their logos on it. *sigh*
And for the record, I have never used Tap'n'tap, unless it was on a demo unit (for the quick week we had them) in store at Staples! (lol)
AAAAAAAAAAAND... I am a n00b to ROM/Flashing/Etc... , but learn quick, and have absorbed A LOT just on the epic in the past two weeks since I got my phone (first smart phone ever). I really hope to step up and contribute to the community here and weigh in. This is one of those sites that will live for a VERY long time, unlike Xbox-HQ, which is the last site I was an administrator on.

AngelosDracul said:
Did not want to "Flame" you with my last response. But it seems that your history with the device is kind of shot. lol. There are just so many problems with the VS name, that I gave up on them YEARS ago when I first started selling Home Theater and Computer tech with their logos on it. *sigh*
And for the record, I have never used Tap'n'tap, unless it was on a demo unit (for the quick week we had them) in store at Staples! (lol)
AAAAAAAAAAAND... I am a n00b to ROM/Flashing/Etc... , but learn quick, and have absorbed A LOT just on the epic in the past two weeks since I got my phone (first smart phone ever). I really hope to step up and contribute to the community here and weigh in. This is one of those sites that will live for a VERY long time, unlike Xbox-HQ, which is the last site I was an administrator on.
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Yeah, all these problems are starting to make me hate the G-Tablet
I wanted to blow up the tablet when I tried to use Tapn'Tap
And yes, this site will last a long time. At least I hope it does.

The memory as far as I can tell is in the FBGA package. Which means Fine Pitch Ball Grid Array. In otherwords you can't just get in there with a solding iron like a metcal, and a microscope and change it. It would require more expensive equipment to reflow the chip off and replace it with a 1 gb Ram package. What they use on the 1GB version is HYNIX H5PS1G83EFR-S6C.

HTC Desire S: £329 PAYG O2-UK (Unlock Free!)

price cut today at O2 UK
Same price as old Desire!!!
£329 + £10 top up! (free unlock from o2)
go website! to o2
Who's getting one!?

wonder if its the same instore, and does it have any O2 branding on it?

1 prob not
2 prob yes

jfran said:
wonder if its the same instore, and does it have any O2 branding on it?
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yes there will no software branding. but i dont think there will be any physical o2 logo brandings..
Should i get this or the Samsung Galaxy S i9000 ??

olyloh6696 said:
yes there will no software branding. but i dont think there will be any physical o2 logo brandings..
Should i get this or the Samsung Galaxy S i9000 ??
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i prefer desire s over the Samsung Galaxy S i9000
go to the shop & give them both a try & see what feels better for you

O2 didn't cut the price today. It has been this price for awhile now.

kartkk said:
i prefer desire s over the Samsung Galaxy S i9000
go to the shop & give them both a try & see what feels better for you
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thanks.
i have already tried the i9000 out loads and loads of times and i already have a tab which is similiear.
i havemt treid out the ds though, only the increible
my only concern is the community isnt big enough as the desire was at tgis time last year! everyones moving on to the dual cores

olyloh6696 said:
thanks.
i have already tried the i9000 out loads and loads of times and i already have a tab which is similiear.
i havemt treid out the ds though, only the increible
my only concern is the community isnt big enough as the desire was at tgis time last year! everyones moving on to the dual cores
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every one here has the same concerns too...hope the community gets bigger..there has been a recent increase in the number of people here hope it gets better
but i can tell you that the build quality of the DS is much better than the galaxy s i fell it also looks better & is the correct size...but peoples tastes differ...

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every one here has the same concerns too...hope the community gets bigger..there has been a recent increase in the number of people here hope it gets better
but i can tell you that the build quality of the DS is much better than the galaxy s i fell it also looks better & is the correct size...but peoples tastes differ...
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yeh, is this also going to make a US release? if not our community will be qute small and there will be very little development. TBH, i cant see many peopl going for this device. they will mostlikely to forward with the dual core phones...Thats probably why o2 have mad it cheap - not many ppl are buying it
I think this has superior software, and hardware to the SGS, its also much newer... but battery life how will it be??

I'm planning on getting one but I don't fancy shelling out £400 for a sim-free unit.
I did see the o2 store having them in stock for £330.
BUT I have a few questions:
1. They can unlock it free? Don't you need to be on the network for a while and pay for them to unlock?
2. Is there any o2 branding on the back or front?
3. Is there any o2 bloatware installed?
4. Have o2 disabled any features? Such as wi-fi hotspot?
5. Is there an o2 logo on the bootscreen?
I like to have my phones clear of any bloatware and any branding. But £400 is a bit much for me for a phone.

nicky041192 said:
I'm planning on getting one but I don't fancy shelling out £400 for a sim-free unit.
I did see the o2 store having them in stock for £330.
BUT I have a few questions:
1. They can unlock it free? Don't you need to be on the network for a while and pay for them to unlock?
2. Is there any o2 branding on the back or front?
3. Is there any o2 bloatware installed?
4. Have o2 disabled any features? Such as wi-fi hotspot?
5. Is there an o2 logo on the bootscreen?
I like to have my phones clear of any bloatware and any branding. But £400 is a bit much for me for a phone.
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1) they unlock it if you email them or something. i read it on the website. its free and easy. you dont need to have the phone for any required time
2) no physical o2 branding.
3) yes there is some o2 bloatware on it. such as apps, boot screen, pictures, videos, ringtones.
4) not sure. probably not.
5) yes i've seen it on the old desire.
Imo, get this and then flash an unbranded htc official rom somehow its much cheaper than buying it simfree.

Actually considering this now or SGS II as it will have a price drop and has a large community!
anyone else going for this?!
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olyloh6696 said:
1) they unlock it if you email them or something. i read it on the website. its free and easy. you dont need to have the phone for any required time
2) no physical o2 branding.
3) yes there is some o2 bloatware on it. such as apps, boot screen, pictures, videos, ringtones.
4) not sure. probably not.
5) yes i've seen it on the old desire.
Imo, get this and then flash an unbranded htc official rom somehow its much cheaper than buying it simfree.
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Hmm. Maybe I can convince carphonewarehouse to reduce the price a bit and offer a case free too XD
You can haggle :L

nicky041192 said:
Hmm. Maybe I can convince carphonewarehouse to reduce the price a bit and offer a case free too XD
You can haggle :L
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really!? can you actually do that?

olyloh6696 said:
really!? can you actually do that?
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sometimes :L
It depends who's working I guess.
You just ask if it comes with a case, if he says no, ask him/her what cases are available. Then look, then say that the cases are expensive for what they are and say you HAVE to have a case like its OCD. Then walk off. They sometimes ask you to come back and 'negotiate' a deal :L Sometimes works on contracts getting a couple months free etc.
Or say another company like phones4u have offered you a better deal. Then carphonewarehouse may give you an even better deal.
EDIT: And just make sure you know your stuff and not make things obvious. If you have been with carphonewarehouse for a while and you are due an upgrade but want to cancel, they are most likely to give you a great deal on a newer contract, but won't not a new phone, to keep you with them. My sister is on a 24months contract few hundred mins, unlimited text+internet for £15 a month with 14 months free.
They all negotiate to get commission. As long as the deal doesn't make them a loss than they should be fine.

nicky041192 said:
sometimes :L
It depends who's working I guess.
You just ask if it comes with a case, if he says no, ask him/her what cases are available. Then look, then say that the cases are expensive for what they are and say you HAVE to have a case like its OCD. Then walk off. They sometimes ask you to come back and 'negotiate' a deal :L Sometimes works on contracts getting a couple months free etc.
Or say another company like phones4u have offered you a better deal. Then carphonewarehouse may give you an even better deal.
EDIT: And just make sure you know your stuff and not make things obvious. If you have been with carphonewarehouse for a while and you are due an upgrade but want to cancel, they are most likely to give you a great deal on a newer contract, but won't not a new phone, to keep you with them. My sister is on a 24months contract few hundred mins, unlimited text+internet for £15 a month with 14 months free.
They all negotiate to get commission. As long as the deal doesn't make them a loss than they should be fine.
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ah, i see quite smart!
I'm a payg customer anyway with a contract on giffgaff. so i only get simfree phones. (or can be unlocked)
my friend did that when he got his htc legend on vodaphone. thanks for the tip!
personally, im getting it from o2 payg in summer. or hopefully by then, the incredible will match its price

Looks like this may be the way to go rather than buying SIM free, which is about £380...
These guys claim to be able to unlock any HTC phone for $15.75 too (about £10).
http://www.htcsimunlock.com/
I might wait until the Desire S gets rooted though, and by that time the price will have dropped more - especially when the dual cores are out. I hope so anyway.

Komatoes said:
Looks like this may be the way to go rather than buying SIM free, which is about £380...
These guys claim to be able to unlock any HTC phone for $15.75 too (about £10).
http://www.htcsimunlock.com/
I might wait until the Desire S gets rooted though, and by that time the price will have dropped more - especially when the dual cores are out. I hope so anyway.
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same here!
o2 will do a free unlock , so u dint need to gi to that website!
i'll be getting mine in summer

Yes I noticed before that you said they will unlock it for free, but I'm not convinced! (no offence!)

I went to the o2 store yesterday and they said you have to wait 3 months before you can unlock it and will cost £15.

Buying one soon..

Hi, I have currently owned a one plus one for about 7 years now. Amazingly it has lasted all this time with no probs at all (I'm on my second battery, and have flashed a decent more modern ROM a while back so it still works with current apps etc). But I have been waiting for some new tech to be released before upgrading. And as that new tech is now here, I have decided to invest some of my hard earned cash to buy one.
But before I do,, thought I'd pop in here and ask you guys if there was anything I should be aware of before buying. Im in the UK, so are there any spec'd phones that would not work in the UK properly? I have heard of Chinese specific ones, maybe a rumer, maybe not?
Did any of them actually come with 512gb in the end? I'm after the rose coloured one if that makes a difference?
Should I not upgrade to the latest ui? As I see some are having problems with bugs..
Just anything I should be aware of really?, as its a lot of money to loose if something goes wrong...
Thanks chaps!..