Hi Everyone,
I'm new here, but xda-developers has come up on a lot of my Google searches. My G1 had a run in with a storm drain. I managed to fish it out, only after sitting in water for about 20 minutes. I dried it out for 3 days, and to my surprise, it turned on and worked for about 15 minutes, until it crashed again. I believe the problem is some corrosion on one of the keys. While it was on, the home button appeared to be "stuck" as the recent application screen kept appearing and disappearing.
Well, I found the service manual and proceeded to disassemble the entire phone to clean all the components. Now I need advice on where to find the non-reusable tape and gasket tape in the phone. The part numbers for the tape are in the manual, but I cannot find a place to order HTC parts.
Any advice, or ideas for alternatives would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Matt
mattcairns said:
Hi Everyone,
I'm new here, but xda-developers has come up on a lot of my Google searches. My G1 had a run in with a storm drain. I managed to fish it out, only after sitting in water for about 20 minutes. I dried it out for 3 days, and to my surprise, it turned on and worked for about 15 minutes, until it crashed again. I believe the problem is some corrosion on one of the keys. While it was on, the home button appeared to be "stuck" as the recent application screen kept appearing and disappearing.
Well, I found the service manual and proceeded to disassemble the entire phone to clean all the components. Now I need advice on where to find the non-reusable tape and gasket tape in the phone. The part numbers for the tape are in the manual, but I cannot find a place to order HTC parts.
Any advice, or ideas for alternatives would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Matt
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Welcome to the forum
Perhapsif you ask on the Dream section it would help to solve your doubts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=446
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Hey everybody,
i just dropped my phone from about 30 cm on concrete floor.
everything seemed to be allright, only after i turned off the cellular radio in the Comm Manager and turned it on again shortly after, my phone was reporting that i have not inserted a Sim card....
After several soft resets, and trying my sim in other phones, i suppose a cable/connector in the phone got loosened by the fall.
I do not have access to HTC repair services or any other repair options, but i think i can manage to fix it myself as long it is no hardware damage.
IF anybody knows how to( instructions or likely), i would be happy to hear it..
Also ive seen the "how to replace LCD/ dismantle device" instructions but they seem to involve dissembling the whole phone into parts.
Thanks guys
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Hey everybody,
i just dropped my phone from about 30 cm on concrete floor.
everything seemed to be allright, only after i turned off the cellular radio in the Comm Manager and turned it on again shortly after, my phone was reporting that i have not inserted a Sim card....
After several soft resets, and trying my sim in other phones, i suppose a cable/connector in the phone got loosened by the fall.
I do not have access to HTC repair services or any other repair options, but i think i can manage to fix it myself as long it is no hardware damage.
IF anybody knows how to( instructions or likely), i would be happy to hear it..
Also ive seen the "how to replace LCD/ dismantle device" instructions but they seem to involve dissembling the whole phone into parts.
Thanks guys
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yea dude your gonna have to take your phone apart . . .like you said you can follow the instruction for LCD replacement guide (LINK ATTACHED BELOW), but your gonna need some tools. taking the phone apart is not hard but you gotta have patience and atleast need like 1 - 2 hours of time ...
you need TORX T6 SCREWDRIVER and TORX T4 SCREWDRIVER ...
http://e5hopa.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pqbe_WOX7GyR7Qh1sEBDsPDqMFI95ndRpGoeRt2fb-QiZLpxFTduuW4cWHvr_yXaD3QPv81mh9YI/HTC_TILT_8925_KAISER%20SERVICE%20MANUAL.pdf?download
Did you check the sim-lock?
Slide out keyboard. Shake gently if the door to the sim opens up it is not locked. Push the lock in the direction of arrow with door closed. It is the plastic bar next to the door. You may want to check if the sim is all the way inserted as well. Phone will act like the sim is bad with both of the above conditions.
Hi all,
First off I would like to thank anyone and everyone that reads this thread, it helps me out if you have any information that could help me out here.
About a week or so ago my girlfriend dropped her Nexus 5 in water, and removed it almost immediately then brought it to me. Sadly the damage was already done and the screen was black. I got the back off and got as much water out as I could shake gently, and the screen still had haptic feedback when I touched it, so I messaged it and it displayed the notification light. This led me to believe the battery was ok, so we left the back off and let it dry for a while, and over time the screen and sound came back. We placed the phone overnight in dry rice, and for the meantime we put her SIM in an old S2. The next morning there was obvious water damage on the screen but less than before, and everything seemed to be working fine, games ran, music played, messages came and went on Hangouts, and when we plugged it in to charge it worked like a charm, so we believed we had gotten lucky, put it back in the rice overnight again and the next day tried putting the SIM card back in the phone.
The Nexus at this point asked to restart and we obliged, but this is when the problem started. It would get to the Google boot screen, hang, then restart, over and over. I tried going into recovery and I could, but no further than that. I am not an expert so don't know what would cause this, but I am led to believe that the battery and everything else is all in working order otherwise it wouldn't have been working and charging while it was on. I wonder if maybe there is a separate part of the phone used for BIOS bootup and it got damaged? Any suggestions or ideas on how to fix the issue would be met with extreme gratitude. Thanks for reading all this.
TL;DR Phone was dropped in water, aired out and worked fine, restarted for SIM card and get stuck in endless boot loop.
QyuBurt said:
Hi all,
First off I would like to thank anyone and everyone that reads this thread, it helps me out if you have any information that could help me out here.
About a week or so ago my girlfriend dropped her Nexus 5 in water, and removed it almost immediately then brought it to me. Sadly the damage was already done and the screen was black. I got the back off and got as much water out as I could shake gently, and the screen still had haptic feedback when I touched it, so I messaged it and it displayed the notification light. This led me to believe the battery was ok, so we left the back off and let it dry for a while, and over time the screen and sound came back. We placed the phone overnight in dry rice, and for the meantime we put her SIM in an old S2. The next morning there was obvious water damage on the screen but less than before, and everything seemed to be working fine, games ran, music played, messages came and went on Hangouts, and when we plugged it in to charge it worked like a charm, so we believed we had gotten lucky, put it back in the rice overnight again and the next day tried putting the SIM card back in the phone.
The Nexus at this point asked to restart and we obliged, but this is when the problem started. It would get to the Google boot screen, hang, then restart, over and over. I tried going into recovery and I could, but no further than that. I am not an expert so don't know what would cause this, but I am led to believe that the battery and everything else is all in working order otherwise it wouldn't have been working and charging while it was on. I wonder if maybe there is a separate part of the phone used for BIOS bootup and it got damaged? Any suggestions or ideas on how to fix the issue would be met with extreme gratitude. Thanks for reading all this.
TL;DR Phone was dropped in water, aired out and worked fine, restarted for SIM card and get stuck in endless boot loop.
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Take the device apart, remove the motherboard. Get some rubbing alcohol and a tooth brush.
Remove any shields that can be taken off to expose more components. Then start scrubbing!!! Continue until you get all of the green/white corrosion. If there are any black scorch marks on the connections, take a eraser and it will remove the burn mark, then continue to clean with alcohol. Also the flex cable connections would need to be cleaned also.
The next step is up to you, if you feel comfortable with it. Make sure all plastic and rubber pieces are off the motherboard. Then stick it in the oven on 400F for 30 min to reflow some of the solder that may have gotten damaged.
Put back together, you may have to factory reset if the software got corrupted.
It is still highly possible to recover the device.
Good luck!
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Take the device apart, remove the motherboard. Get some rubbing alcohol and a tooth brush.
Remove any shields that can be taken off to expose more components. Then start scrubbing!!! Continue until you get all of the green/white corrosion. If there are any black scorch marks on the connections, take a eraser and it will remove the burn mark, then continue to clean with alcohol. Also the flex cable connections would need to be cleaned also.
The next step is up to you, if you feel comfortable with it. Make sure all plastic and rubber pieces are off the motherboard. Then stick it in the oven on 400F for 30 min to reflow some of the solder that may have gotten damaged.
Put back together, you may have to factory reset if the software got corrupted.
It is still highly possible to recover the device.
Good luck!
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I wouldn't go so far as reflowing solder for a dry-out.
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000BXOGNI?tag=adapas02-20
can be attained at your local auto supply, simply disassemble the boards and give them a once-over spray and wipe-down. Reassemble, and then troubleshoot the bootloop, which may require a full stock flash. Good luck!
wideasleep1 said:
I wouldn't go so far as reflowing solder for a dry-out.
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000BXOGNI?tag=adapas02-20
can be attained at your local auto supply, simply disassemble the boards and give them a once-over spray and wipe-down. Reassemble, and then troubleshoot the bootloop, which may require a full stock flash. Good luck!
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I am not reflowing to dry it, sometimes solder on the connections/components need to be reflowed when they got WD or the device will not function correctly.I have seen it more time that I can count.
oOflyeyesOo said:
I am not reflowing to dry it, sometimes solder on the connections/components need to be reflowed when they got WD or the device will not function correctly.I have seen it more time that I can count.
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There wouldn't be solder damage when OP acted almost immediately to dry it out. A cleaning, further drying should be all that's needed. One should NEVER turn on electronics until fully disassembled, cleaned and dried in any event.
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There wouldn't be solder damage when OP acted almost immediately to dry it out. A cleaning, further drying should be all that's needed. One should NEVER turn on electronics until fully disassembled, cleaned and dried in any event.
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The second the device hits air corrosion starts to build. Rice does nothing, it pulls a little bit of the water from the charge port and headset jack, basically what drips out. There is possibility that there is still water inside the device. He needs to open it up to scrub it down with a tooth brush and alcohol at least.The connections may break in time even after cleaning, that is why I suggest a reflow.
oOflyeyesOo said:
The second the device hits air corrosion starts to build. Rice does nothing, it pulls a little bit of the water from the charge port and headset jack, basically what drips out. There is possibility that there is still water inside the device. He needs to open it up to scrub it down with a tooth brush and alcohol at least.The connections may break in time even after cleaning, that is why I suggest a reflow.
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I don't disagree most of this up to the point of reflow, which should be an absolute, last-ditch exercise. If corrosion is a major concern, after cleaning with solvent, a Caig deoxit treatment would be my next advice, but I think reflow is best left to the experienced.
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I don't disagree most of this up to the point of reflow, which should be an absolute, last-ditch exercise. If corrosion is a major concern, after cleaning with solvent, a Caig deoxit treatment would be my next advice, but I think reflow is best left to the experienced.
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Thanks to both of you for your advice on this. I will go and get some of the cleaning spray you suggested and give all the components a good clean, and will look for any scorch marks that may have occured when it was damaged. I would try flashing the OS as well but I'm not entirely sure how to do that when the phone has not been set up for USB Debugging. I attempted to flash it after unlocking the bootloader, but that didn't seem to work either. I will report back when I have performed the steps and let you know if there has been any progress.
Thanks =)
QyuBurt said:
Thanks to both of you for your advice on this. I will go and get some of the cleaning spray you suggested and give all the components a good clean, and will look for any scorch marks that may have occured when it was damaged. I would try flashing the OS as well but I'm not entirely sure how to do that when the phone has not been set up for USB Debugging. I attempted to flash it after unlocking the bootloader, but that didn't seem to work either. I will report back when I have performed the steps and let you know if there has been any progress.
Thanks =)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701
And to the guy above, sorry if it seemed I was arguing. A few too many drinks at that point.
Hello,
I recently replaced my oneplus one touchscreen myself with a replacement one I got from eBay. Now it stops responding when I turn my screen on and then after a about 20-30 seconds of hard swiping it starts responding and the touchscreen works as if everything is normal. Is this a known issue?
Well it would be more helpful if you give your current Android version, rooted or not and which firmware, might as well attach some screenshots here of about phone of your phone from settings
Hello,
My Android version is 5.1.1, not rooted . Here is a screenshot with rest of the details
Happened to me the second time I replaced my screen and sounds like the exact same issue. It was a grounding issue. When you took off the original parts, you should've noticed some chrome looking tape towards the top, under the motherboard. That was there to stop that main display flex wire from grounding out on the frame. I put a little piece of masking tape on the new assembly and it solved my issues. Hope this helps
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Happened to me the second time I replaced my screen and sounds like the exact same issue. It was a grounding issue. When you took off the original parts, you should've noticed some chrome looking tape towards the top, under the motherboard. That was there to stop that main display flex wire from grounding out on the frame. I put a little piece of masking tape on the new assembly and it solved my issues. Hope this helps
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Can you let me know where the chrome looking tape is? I am looking at this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/repair-guide-oneplus-one-disassembly-t2979351 and I think the area you mentioned is showing under Step 16 and before Step 17?
Ok I followed the solution listed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/fixing-ghost-touch-grounding-issue-hint-t2951000. So I put masking tape on the affected parts. The problem has definitely become less prevalent where the screen wouldn't respond for minutes to now sometimes the phone doesn't respond for about 10 - 20 seconds and then starts responding again. But once it does start working. It works continuously and it seems to me like something is trying to charge up and once charged up it works. So I don't think I have reached the final solution any other ideas? Should I just try heavier electrical tape instead of masking tape?
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I just dropped my P900 and it went completely dark. :crying: There's no mark, not a crack, nothing, but the display is completely dark. The touch buttons on each side of the home button lights up, but the display does not.
Any advice? Or it is Samsung support next?
May the ribbon for the display is disconnected from the circuit board.
poetryrocksalot said:
May the ribbon for the display is disconnected from the circuit board.
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Yeah, maybe I should open it myself and have a look. Are there any warranty seals that I will break if I pry it open? I have all the tools necessary, but are there any guides for opening the P900? I wouldn't want to break anything...
bluebirch said:
Yeah, maybe I should open it myself and have a look. Are there any warranty seals that I will break if I pry it open? I have all the tools necessary, but are there any guides for opening the P900? I wouldn't want to break anything...
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This is a video on replacing the battery but it helped me when I re-soldered the battery connection on mine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeSG0hHpAG8
I've opened mine a few times and haven't noticed any specific seals but mine was refurbished to start with.
Also I have the proper tools but found a guitar pick was easier to use personally on this tablet.
Starting at the power port to remove the back made it a lot easier for me, its pretty hard to get anything between the back cover and the tablet in other areas.
poetryrocksalot said:
May the ribbon for the display is disconnected from the circuit board.
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This was indeed the problem! The connector has some kind of snap lock that had come loose. So easily fixed. Thanks for encouraging me to try to fix it myself. :good:
Glad I helped!
Sorry to hijack your thread but figured my problem might be related.
About 2 weeks ago I charged my tablet and stored it away. The other day I tried to use it and it wouldn't turn on. I tried to charge it but that didn't work either as there isn't even charging activity on the screen. I ordered a replacement battery thinking it might be that, but I was wrong. I still can't make it turn on. Any ideas what it can be? Thanks
bluebirch said:
This was indeed the problem! The connector has some kind of snap lock that had come loose. So easily fixed. Thanks for encouraging me to try to fix it myself. :good:
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I had a similar experience. 3 weeks ago the 1x my SM P-900 is out of its protective case, it falls 2.5 ft off a table. Hits the floor. No visible cracks or breaks. I could hear hear it operating but the screen was black. Took 3 weeks to talk myself up to it but I pried off the back & used a magnifier glass to c.a.r.e.f.u.l.l.y check every ribbon connect. 1 connector's pins were very slightly off alignment. Couldnt find anything else. Put it back together...Yes! Screen works. All seems good. Took the back off again & securely taped over every ribbon connect I could find. Long time intermittent screen flicker issue (when battery was below 40%) also seems to be gone. That has been the best, eye squintin', back hunchin', shallow breathin', micro-screw wrangling, time investment my non-hardware tech self has ever spent. Wooo!
Around May 2016, I jumped into a pool with my OPO in my pocket. About 10 seconds afterwards I realized what I had done, and pull the phone out of my pocket. The screen wouldn't turn back on, and it started continuously buzzing. Eventually it stopped and I tried to dry it off best I could. Blowing out what water I could and stupidly purchased a bag of rice I kept it submerged in for awhile. Nothing worked of course.
Eventually I took it apart. The battery glue was so sticky, the battery started to distort as I tried to pry it away from the body of the phone. I figured at that point, it was pretty much destroyed. But I took it apart and used some alcohol to clean up some of the parts. At that point I just decided to order a new phone since I already had it for about 2 years anyway.
But now I want to get it working again to recovery some data and images.
I purchased a replacement battery, soaked the main board in alcohol, cleaned up some of the connectors, etc. Reassembled it, and to my surprise it worked again! Well, except the display. But the digitizer still worked, the capacitive buttons worked, and I could hear sound even. Seemingly everything worked but the display. I can even see the backlight come on sometimes but with no actual picture and some noticeable water marks. I was even able to fiddle around with the digitizer, unlock the phone, connect it via USB, and recover some of what I wanted. However, I was hoping to get the display working so I could recover additional data.
So I purchase a screen assembly (display, digitizer, and front body) off ebay. But same problem, I see the backlight come on sometimes, but no picture. I tried cleaning all the contacts again and re-seating them several times to ensure all connections were okay. Still, no picture on the display.
So I thought maybe I could have ended up with a bad display off eBay. So I ordered another. Still the same issue.
What could I do? Is there anything in particular I should try that might help? Is it the daughter board maybe? That might be easy enough to replace.
orificium said:
Around May 2016, I jumped into a pool with my OPO in my pocket. About 10 seconds afterwards I realized what I had done, and pull the phone out of my pocket. The screen wouldn't turn back on, and it started continuously buzzing. Eventually it stopped and I tried to dry it off best I could. Blowing out what water I could and stupidly purchased a bag of rice I kept it submerged in for awhile. Nothing worked of course.
Eventually I took it apart. The battery glue was so sticky, the battery started to distort as I tried to pry it away from the body of the phone. I figured at that point, it was pretty much destroyed. But I took it apart and used some alcohol to clean up some of the parts. At that point I just decided to order a new phone since I already had it for about 2 years anyway.
But now I want to get it working again to recovery some data and images.
I purchased a replacement battery, soaked the main board in alcohol, cleaned up some of the connectors, etc. Reassembled it, and to my surprise it worked again! Well, except the display. But the digitizer still worked, the capacitive buttons worked, and I could hear sound even. Seemingly everything worked but the display. I can even see the backlight come on sometimes but with no actual picture and some noticeable water marks. I was even able to fiddle around with the digitizer, unlock the phone, connect it via USB, and recover some of what I wanted. However, I was hoping to get the display working so I could recover additional data.
So I purchase a screen assembly (display, digitizer, and front body) off ebay. But same problem, I see the backlight come on sometimes, but no picture. I tried cleaning all the contacts again and re-seating them several times to ensure all connections were okay.
What could I do? Is there anything in particular I should try that might help? Is it the daughter board maybe? That might be easy enough to replace.
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Since the whole thing involves water,there might be several parts which are damaged. I suggest get your device checked from a professional repair shop.
I was hoping I can learn more about what a professional repair shop might do to diagnose the problem.
orificium said:
I was hoping I can learn more about what a professional repair shop might do to diagnose the problem.
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Do you have multimeter and knowledge of hardware?
Just toss it away after transferring the files.
It's not worth the hassle, trust me.
I repair OnePlus One's everyday and the water-damaged ones take way too much time.
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Do you have multimeter and knowledge of hardware?
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Yes, I do. I've done many laptop repairs and repaired a few smartphones in the past but never dealt with water damage like this before.
DevSquad said:
Just toss it away after transferring the files.
It's not worth the hassle, trust me.
I repair OnePlus One's everyday and the water-damaged ones take way too much time.
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Do you have any advice as to what my next steps would be after having tried two replacement screens. Literally everything works on the phone except the screen doesn't light up. Even the digitizer works. Well I can see the backlight come on sometimes, but no pixels. I've cleaned an re-cleaned the connectors many times using 91% isopropyl alcohol.
Is there any particular resistance or continuity I can check that might indicate what component is bad? Information about the pinouts somewhere?
Maybe there's another part of XDA or another forum that goes more in-depth into smartphone repair? If anyone has any recommendations, I'd greatly appreciate it.