Unistalling cooked programs in ROMs - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

I know that the prograns cooked by the chefs in their ROMs can't be uninstalled by simple going do the "Remove Programs" button on the Settings part of the ROM.
I want to know if there is a way to uninstall some programs cooked in the ROMs BEFORE flashing them into Kaiser...
Is there any program that can easily do this?
Is it safe?
Can it be done without major knowlowedge of the cooking/programming processes?
Since I use the ROMs in Brazil, some of the programs that usually comes cooked in the ROMs are pretty much uselles here (e.g., that one that "reads" the name of the contact that's calling).
Usually I just disable then, but it is kind of a waste of space leaving them there without using.

I would like to know the answer as well

zefiltrin said:
Is there any program that can easily do this?
Is it safe?
Can it be done without major knowlowedge of the cooking/programming processes?
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Easy answers.
No
Relatively
No

denco7 said:
Easy answers.
No
Relatively
No
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So, if there's no easy way, can anyone point the "hard" way to do this?
The process of cooking this programs in the ROMs are THAT complicated?

zefiltrin said:
I know that the prograns cooked by the chefs in their ROMs can't be uninstalled by simple going do the "Remove Programs" button on the Settings part of the ROM.
I want to know if there is a way to uninstall some programs cooked in the ROMs BEFORE flashing them into Kaiser...
Is there any program that can easily do this?
Is it safe?
Can it be done without major knowlowedge of the cooking/programming processes?
Since I use the ROMs in Brazil, some of the programs that usually comes cooked in the ROMs are pretty much uselles here (e.g., that one that "reads" the name of the contact that's calling).
Usually I just disable then, but it is kind of a waste of space leaving them there without using.
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Hi there,
I would use a ROM Image Editor software.
Search for htcRIE_0.4.0.51.exe. open the .nbh file and you will see all the
files included in the ROM. Some files you can delete without having to worry about anything. Give it a try.
I don't take any responsibility if you modify/delete files and it breaks your phone.
Good Luck.

Edris said:
Hi there,
I would use a ROM Image Editor software.
Search for htcRIE_0.4.0.51.exe. open the .nbh file and you will see all the
files included in the ROM. Some files you can delete without having to worry about anything. Give it a try.
I don't take any responsibility if you modify/delete files and it breaks your phone.
Good Luck.
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Thank you! I'll look for it.
But the chance of breaking the phone is relevant? I mean, why deleting some third party app files prevent me from flashing another ROM later, if anything goes wrong?
I don't want to deal with anything related to the OS itself, just eventual softwares installed, like MS Voice Command or RSS Hub.
If the only way is to delete file by file I'm note too sure if it is worth the work...
I honestly toought that there was a program that you could open the .nbh file and it would show the installed prograns and the option to remove them.

zefiltrin said:
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If the only way is to delete file by file I'm note too sure if it is worth the work...
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not worth the work???? what work??? u open the nbh file, u select the file, and u delete it. much less work than actually recooking the rom.
i use htcrie all the time, and i've screwed up many many times. If u screwed it up, and deleted something that you shouldnt......then just start again from a copy of the original and make sure u dont delete it.

or, the 'easy' way (and most chefs provide this) is to flash a 'lite' or 'naked' version of the rom series, then add the crap you DO want. or, download a kitchen and cook your own!

XtreMe_G said:
not worth the work???? what work??? u open the nbh file, u select the file, and u delete it. much less work than actually recooking the rom.
i use htcrie all the time, and i've screwed up many many times. If u screwed it up, and deleted something that you shouldnt......then just start again from a copy of the original and make sure u dont delete it.
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But I believe that most of these programs are not in one simple file... Or are they?
I though that the process of deleting the files would implie deleting ALL the files related to the program.
Some of them put files in the '/Windows' folder, '/My Documents' folder and so on...
thedrizzle said:
or, the 'easy' way (and most chefs provide this) is to flash a 'lite' or 'naked' version of the rom series, then add the crap you DO want. or, download a kitchen and cook your own!
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Well, first of all, not every chef makes naked ROMs. Second, I usually DO want 90% of what comes in the ROMs, and want to delete one or two programs. So, flashing naked ROMs to install EVERYTHING else is a option that I don't want do consider...
About cooking a ROM, I would do it if I have the time to learn everything about it. Since I can't do it with the knolowedge I have and don't have enought time to learn it all, I'm tryng to find one alternative that can solve my problem.

so you delete ALL the files associated with that program then.

Zelfrin
Are you trying to have a thread "How to brick your device" ?
That's a perfect one

XtreMe_G said:
so you delete ALL the files associated with that program then.
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Ok, but how can I see the list of files associated with that program? The softs you pointed show what files are related to each program?
If there is no other way, I'm going to try deleting everything.
Pisca said:
Zelfrin
Are you trying to have a thread "How to brick your device" ?
That's a perfect one
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Hehehe... Don't even joke about it!
As I said, I just want to delete SOME files of THIRD PARTY softs. I'm going to stay the hell away of any file related to the OS itself.
And I really can't see why this could brick my device... Since any problem will occur only in the ROM itself, I'll probably be able to reflash another ROM...
I wanted to cook a ROM myself, in portuguese and with the programs I use, but I just don't have enought time right now to do this...

zefiltrin said:
Ok, but how can I see the list of files associated with that program? The softs you pointed show what files are related to each program?
If there is no other way, I'm going to try deleting everything.
Hehehe... Don't even joke about it!
As I said, I just want to delete SOME files of THIRD PARTY softs. I'm going to stay the hell away of any file related to the OS itself.
And I really can't see why this could brick my device... Since any problem will occur only in the ROM itself, I'll probably be able to reflash another ROM...
I wanted to cook a ROM myself, in portuguese and with the programs I use, but I just don't have enought time right now to do this...
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You will see the .exe .lnk some more have more file but most will be the .exe thats the bulk, i had look @ prog and seems pretty simple, yet not going to as Tilt has enough storage memory for me just to hide .lnk's and not worry

stylez said:
You will see the .exe .lnk some more have more file but most will be the .exe thats the bulk, i had look @ prog and seems pretty simple, yet not going to as Tilt has enough storage memory for me just to hide .lnk's and not worry
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That's what I though after I post my reply... Probably only the .exe is memory consuming, the rest is useles but very small files too.
I'm going to try this...

Manila 2d
What are the manila 2d associated files that I can delete?

matumartin14 said:
What are the manila 2d associated files that I can delete?
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Get a M2D .cab and crack it open with WinCe Cab Manager or the likes and you will be able to see.

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Extracting cab files from ROMs

Hi,
I have tried a few ROMs and I need a combination of them when it comes to built in application!
I tried to serach and research this but still could not understand how you can extract CAB files from an existing Kaiser ROM if I have the ROM in .nbh format.
I am new to Kaiser and never used the ROM Kitchen before. I used to have HTC Prophet before so I am still used to the old ways of changging "Extended Memory" contents and the config file for it.
Thanks for your help.
Be not afraid of the new ways...
Steel77 said:
Hi,
I have tried a few ROMs and I need a combination of them when it comes to built in application!
I tried to serach and research this but still could not understand how you can extract CAB files from an existing Kaiser ROM if I have the ROM in .nbh format.
I am new to Kaiser and never used the ROM Kitchen before. I used to have HTC Prophet before so I am still used to the old ways of changging "Extended Memory" contents and the config file for it.
Thanks for your help.
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A couple of suggestions....
1) Read slowly, deliberately, an multiple times to ensure you are not missing details.
2) If you don't understand something specific, ask the specific question on this forum and we are better armed to assist.
3) Don't be afraid to just try and run the SW after reading carefully. It's not painful or anything just to jump in and run the software (just don't load it on your phone until you are confident in the results). The worse that happens is you run it over. Since you are extracting for the 1st time, I suggest you follow the instructions EXACTLY. I don't care if it tells you to lift your leg and bark like a dog, just do it! Also, to get a feel for the quality of your results, extract a cab that you already have and compare after you're done.
Cheers and good luck!

Learning to cook. Need a little help

I'm using alex's kitchen and am trying to create a cooked wm6.1 rom from the CE OS 5.2.19170 (BUILD 19170.1.0.0).
I've extracted the rom loads of times and can create a flashable RUU_signed.nbh with additional apps from packages (and some packages i made myself) but if i try to add the new polaris camera or anything that the rom may have a previous version of it errors out and can't create the default hives.
It says for a lot of the added packages they do not contain rgu's.
Anyone fancy trying to mentor me a bit?
read the wiki on how to make oem packages bro im in the midst of making my own custom rom right now based off of dcs1.1
Cheers for the reply.
I've done that and made some working packages but it seems thats not the problem. i think i need to remove all the older stuff from oemapps first but i don't know how to do that and can't find any pointers.
I know i could start deleting stuff but thats probably not wise.
ive been lerning myself the past 3 days non stop just testing n testing new stuff seeing what goes well, trying to take pkgs from roms and merge to other etc takes some time but ull get it if u keep at it, i really recommend the packages creator 5.4 util for making ur pkgs
i just wish i cood find the pkgs for dutties beautiful red phone dialer and call history etc. i tried removing it but its a bit too advanced for me atm
I've been using the package creator in the kitchen (ervius' one).
I'm on nightshifts at work and i think the sleep deprivation is making me miss the obvious.
I'll stick at it for a bit though and then have a proper go when i get a day off.
I'll have a bash with the rom your using as its got the camera in already but i'd still like to know how to do it myself.
Now where'd i put that cup of coffee?
oh and i find with the pkg tool i have to delete the rgu files to avoid the hv registry errors in buildos hope that helps
It says they are missing for most of them anyway.
Please watch this.
to get my pkgs to work i found that i had to uncheck prefix files and leave all others checked, then after creating the pkgs i delete the rgu files
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Please watch this.
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Now that's funny.
Now i know it's the wrong thread and all but i don't want to start a new one just to thank you for your kitchen and tutorials. So ta very much.
xzon said:
to get my pkgs to work i found that i had to uncheck prefix files and leave all others checked, then after creating the pkgs i delete the rgu files
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Cheers for the advice xzon.
I'm gonna call it a day for now but will definitely check out what you've said.
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Please watch this.
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Thanks Alex

Just2Clean Kitchen Files

As promised, here are Just2Clean's kitchen files. You will need to use either JustClean's EasyBakeOven or Bepe's kitchen in order to use them. Just download either of the kitchens, delete the OEM and SYS folders and replace them with these.
This does NOT include my micro Extended ROM, but if you've flashed my ROM, you already have it installed.
Linky It's the Working_Folder
sorry still kinda new to all this ROM cooking...
So this is a newer build of the OS?
I the just2clean kitchen you released I want to keep all those packages I have in there so all i have to do is add the files from this OEM folder to that one and replace the sys folder... am I right?
Thanks. I will try to cast some magic with this
(for personal use, of course )
macaraballojr said:
sorry still kinda new to all this ROM cooking...
So this is a newer build of the OS?
I the just2clean kitchen you released I want to keep all those packages I have in there so all i have to do is add the files from this OEM folder to that one and replace the sys folder... am I right?
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This is not my newest build, this is the Just2Clean that I had already released. If you want to get a newer build, search for EasyPortOven 2.2 and use that to port over the ROM. It will change the ROM, though, as the SYS folder has been optimized. You'll learn more about this in one of my upcoming cooking lessons.
awsome!.... Do you know more or less when you will be comming out with this lesson?
Again Thank you for all ur help and work... You Rock dude!
macaraballojr said:
awsome!.... Do you know more or less when you will be comming out with this lesson?
Again Thank you for all ur help and work... You Rock dude!
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Well, you have to follow all my lessons first, in order to understand the whole process, so keep studying my lessons as they come and the ones I have already released and you'll be ok.
ivanmmj said:
Well, you have to follow all my lessons first, in order to understand the whole process, so keep studying my lessons as they come and the ones I have already released and you'll be ok.
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What would we do without u bro but many thanks for the info
hmm well old kitchen still works but when i replace files with that attached ive got problem with running buildos (its building temp but after a while its giving up and show problem with buildos (windows dialog) and then with buildxip...)
old kitchen works. i also tried to use a fresh upacked version. its just not working for me...
ive reinstalled all frameworks, c+ and its not helping.. even if i not mod anything its just dont work ;/
(i have unpacked to good folder and old configuration (5.2.19199) still works fine. i'm having badsectors but this cannot be the problem right now..)
i need some help.. or there is some newer version of easybakeoven? (using still beta2...)
slimag said:
hmm well old kitchen still works but when i replace files with that attached ive got problem with running buildos (its building temp but after a while its giving up and show problem with buildos (windows dialog) and then with buildxip...)
old kitchen works. i also tried to use a fresh upacked version. its just not working for me...
ive reinstalled all frameworks, c+ and its not helping.. even if i not mod anything its just dont work ;/
(i have unpacked to good folder and old configuration (5.2.19199) still works fine. i'm having badsectors but this cannot be the problem right now..)
i need some help.. or there is some newer version of easybakeoven? (using still beta2...)
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One of the packages you chose is probably not compatible with Just2Clean. To make it compatible, read the error and it will tell you. If a duplicate file is found, delete the extra file from the OEM folder or the SYS folder.
when i put the OEM and SYS folder from the Just2Clean in the working folder of the Kitchen, the Kitchen won't even start up.
- reinstall of VC -> no start up.
- mixing of old and new OEM and SYS -> no start up.
- using the old oem and sys -> all works great
Ghostrider
i cant choose any package and i'm using ONLY oem and sys from working folder.7z!
old kitchen works great but i cant use these files. same as GhostRider.
need help..
Ghostrider said:
when i put the OEM and SYS folder from the Just2Clean in the working folder of the Kitchen, the Kitchen won't even start up.
- reinstall of VC -> no start up.
- mixing of old and new OEM and SYS -> no start up.
- using the old oem and sys -> all works great
Ghostrider
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What do you mean by not start up. There are MANY files and batch files and programs that work together as a kitchen. You'll have to be more specific. Perhaps a screenshot of what happens.
slimag said:
i cant choose any package and i'm using ONLY oem and sys from working folder.7z!
old kitchen works great but i cant use these files. same as GhostRider.
need help..
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You can't choose packages because the packages are all stored in the OEM folder. I forgot to mention that. Don't delete the OEM folder, just the folders in the OEM folder have the same name as the files in the other new OEM folder...
when I put the new files in the OEM and SYS Folder it say's BuildOS.exe don't work anymore, The Program has an Problem, and must be Closed.
Then the same with Buildxip.exe don't work anymore.
Ghostrider
That means that there's a conflicting name on an RGU, DSM, or inside an option.xml. If you do not go through BuildOS, Buildxip will crash because it will not have something to build in the first place, as it's BuildOS's job to get the files where they need to be.
i'm sorry but you are treating us (me and Ghostrider) like an idiots.. i'm quite sure that problem is with the package.
you write clearly "delete oem and sys and replace them" when i do this - same thing as on Ghostriders screenshots happens.
slimag said:
i'm sorry but you are treating us (me and Ghostrider) like an idiots.. i'm quite sure that problem is with the package.
you write clearly "delete oem and sys and replace them" when i do this - same thing as on Ghostriders screenshots happens.
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I'm sorry if I insulted you, but I don't see how I treated you like idiots.
All I've done is ask you questions to get a better idea of what's going on. It works on my end, but it doesn't on your end. I can't magically know what's going on without asking questions. I'm sorry if you felt insulted by my questions. It was never my intent. I just wanted to ask questions to find out why it wasn't working on your end so I could help fix it. I just rememebered something, too. Just before I packed it up I was messing around with something... look for the OEM packages that have both an UPX version and a non-UPX version. I THINK that one I uploaded may have one. If it does, one of the packages may have duplicate RGU's and DSM's. If it does, keep the one that starts with A and delete the pair that starts with Z. Also you can delete the UPX version of that package altogether. Tell me if that works.
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I'm sorry if I insulted you, but I don't see how I treated you like idiots.
All I've done is ask you questions to get a better idea of what's going on. It works on my end, but it doesn't on your end. I can't magically know what's going on without asking questions. I'm sorry if you felt insulted by my questions. It was never my intent. I just wanted to ask questions to find out why it wasn't working on your end so I could help fix it. I just rememebered something, too. Just before I packed it up I was messing around with something... look for the OEM packages that have both an UPX version and a non-UPX version. I THINK that one I uploaded may have one. If it does, one of the packages may have duplicate RGU's and DSM's. If it does, keep the one that starts with A and delete the pair that starts with Z. Also you can delete the UPX version of that package altogether. Tell me if that works.
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I don't felt me insulted
I'm testing this now.
Ghostrider
Edit:
I have Just2Clean and MMS 3.5.1.24.R2 as UPX and non UPX deleting the UPX version did't do it. I deleted both the UPX and non UPX version in the Kitchen files for Just2Clean, and now it is working.
I don't have the Just2Clean Customization
Ghostrider
Great to hear!
There should be a Just2Clean customization there also. It's labeled "Customization - Just2Clean."
I think what he meant is that Just2Clean customization packages don't work.
I did as you suggested by deleting the .rgu and .dsm starting with Z, but that still didn't work.
The option XML file needed to be edited because it pointed to those Z files not the A files.
Not sure if just deleting the .dsm and .rgu starting with A would've worked because I didn't try that.
After deleting the UPXed packages everything works for me now.

ROM Image Editor

I have got the ROM Image Editor. I edit the nbh file of the ROM. I need to know how to add my cab files to the ROM so it gets installed automatically as I flash the ROM. This will help get things up running promptly with each new ROM I install.
Anyone can help ?
SASHIMI check my ROM thread for download if can't find....
already use Sashimi
I already have Sashimi 8.0 & I use it. But I see building the cabs within a new ROM in way that gets them all installed as I flash the ROM, would be great & fast.
I have the ROM Image Editor but I just don't know where to add the cabs within the ROM folders to reach the target.
Is there anyone who can help on this ?
Cooking
You're going to have to cook them into your ROM, which won't be in the form of .cab's any more. They'll be in EXT. And everytime you change roms, you'll have to extract whichever rom you dl, and recook it with the programs you want in there. SASHIMI is probably your best bet unless you feel like spending a lot of time on each and every ROM just so that when you flash it the programs are already in there.
Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm off base here, but it's probably not worth it for speed and ease issues.
Happy Flashing!
drumboy03
yassero said:
Is there anyone who can help on this ?
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What ROM editor are you using? Perhaps htcRIE_0.5.0.12 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377514 ?
If that´s the one you are using I don´t think is capable to do what you want, as drumboy said: Cooking is the way
luiggi said:
What ROM editor are you using? Perhaps htcRIE_0.5.0.12 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377514 ?
If that´s the one you are using I don´t think is capable to do what you want, as drumboy said: Cooking is the way
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Yes it is htcRIE_0.5.0.12. Do you know how to install the cabs in a ROM ?
Usually after a ROM is installed & during customization, some cabs appear in folder Volatile & are then installed. Can I place my cabs along those ?
yassero said:
Yes it is htcRIE_0.5.0.12. Do you know how to install the cabs in a ROM ?
Usually after a ROM is installed & during customization, some cabs appear in folder Volatile & are then installed. Can I place my cabs along those ?
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Ok if you want to install it after flash, then you can do it a few different ways, like UC, XDA_UC or tom's autoinstall. But for all those you need to cook them in the ROM.
If you dont have it cooked in, then shashmi or programs similar to those will help.
You cant edit a ROM using htcRIE, in the sense add cabs and stuff, and recompile it to make it bootable in my opinion.
You can play with it and see! If the ROM is using runCC, then you need to add cabs, and mofify config_operator.txt file to add those cabs to execute in first boot.
Hope this helps.

how to run several CABs in a batch

searched the forum, for something that seems trivial, but can't find it...
sdconfig.txt is giving me problems, so now looking for a simple way to automatically run cab1, cab2, ... cabN, after a flash. like a DOS batch file
SASHIMI is what you need!
There are many tutorials, search for it!
3dfx
I found this:
forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20753
dXsL said:
searched the forum, for something that seems trivial, but can't find it...
sdconfig.txt is giving me problems, so now looking for a simple way to automatically run cab1, cab2, ... cabN, after a flash. like a DOS batch file
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If you want to make it easy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514934
dXsL said:
searched the forum, for something that seems trivial, but can't find it...
sdconfig.txt is giving me problems, so now looking for a simple way to automatically run cab1, cab2, ... cabN, after a flash. like a DOS batch file
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You can use my cab, which already combined the major tweaks + NET 3.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611358
I include a brief tutorial on how to merge cabs in the the second post.
I prefer creating a single cab for the things I will always install, so I don't need a pc to flash a new rom and get all my tweaks mods and apps back!
Using a cab installer requires a pc, so not as elegant.
Steve0007 said:
If you want to make it easy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514934
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Nice, very nice.
x3dfx said:
SASHIMI is what you need!
There are many tutorials, search for it!
3dfx
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Can you run it on Leo? After install, Sashimi stopped after saying initialisation complete and refuse to do anything else (the status screen stays there forever, no menu screen).

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