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Polaris for cheaper price

Hi all. I just recently played with my friend's TC and fell in love with it. Sadly, though, I am running very low on cash at the moment, so was wondering how I could get this device for somewhere in the 400-500 dollar range that would work on AT&T. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

you can find it on eeeeebay!

good luck finding one for 400 to 500 tho...Happy shopping...

Seriously, if you are that low on cash opt for a different phone b/c God only knows how pissed you will be if something happens to your unsubsidized, uninsured, $700+ costing phone. Where are you located, maybe you can get a carrier subsidised version? Or go for one of the other phones in the Touch series...Touch Dual is coming to ATT this quarter (assuming you are in the US) also there is a company selling the TC for $579 with a new T-Mobile US contract on eBay<--that's subsized, but not officially by T-Mobile so no US based warranty repair or insurance.

Wow, high price for Diamond!

Surely this can't be right.
Just checked with Smart Mobile Gadgets, and HTC Diamond are selling at $899.94. Compare to Sony Experia X1, which is selling for $979.94. I am not an iPhone person, but WOW at those price, I may be forced to buy the 3G iPhone instead. Lets hope the price will be lower than what they have there.

Hahahahahaha! That's way too much money for this phone, HTC will sell only a few.

it'll probably drop to $800 or less quite soon after (£400)
it's 'cheaper' with a contracy usually though, free or very cheap (>£100) with contacts <£35/month, that also includes all your calls/texts/internet so it can be quite good.

if you think about it, that has always been the price for the high end phones. remember the Nokia 8890 back in the days? it was about the same price as well.

Yeah, it's far too much for a phone with 4GB storage only and without a card slot.

These are pre-release prices so they are obviously high. When these phones come to carriers, that's when the prices will come down significantly and plus they won't be released in the U.S till the end of the year so that will also give some time to reduce prices.

PLus they are unlocked, Locked devcices are usaully cheaper by hundreds of dollars and unlocking is no big deal.

HTC want us to pay >$900 for Microsoft for using Google youtube and Opera browser?
NO WAY!

I think I disagree.
Keep in mind that it will be available in Europe first so...
900$ is about 600 euros, which seems reasonable for a new WM device with VGA screen + GPS...
Moreover, the old HTC Touch is still sold for about 420 euros..

After checking out the iPhone, it does make sense that the Diamond is way too expensive. In any case, AT&T only carries the iPhone. For now, I am happy to use my 8525 and 3125.

Well I paid 915 US$ last year for a TyTN II with shipping included, so this prices are high but not overpriced.
I like the Diamong but for now I think that I'll wait for Windows 7.

daniel_rh said:
Well I paid 915 US$ last year for a TyTN II with shipping included, so this prices are high but not overpriced.
I like the Diamong but for now I think that I'll wait for Windows 7.
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THAT IS INSANE!
I know the mogul is a tad bit under the specs of the tilt, but i paid 500 about a month before its official release. I cant really see the diamond going for more than 600 usd, especially if it want to compete with the iphone (which IMO, is better)
I really hope the raphael is around the same or less.

let's say you have 900$. what are you going to buy? sony or htc?

Stop yer fussin. Thats only the prices they're charging because the phones aren't even out yet. When they come out they'll probably be impossible to find too, but hopefully Sprint lets me upgrade at a discount with a new contract or something.

Yeah, they'll come down after they release. At least I hope they do! My wife and I are planning on getting one of each next year (I like the X1, she likes the Diamond).
If they stay almost a grand a pop we'll be passing...too rich for my blood.

I only paid $120 for my Mogul... I won't pay $900 for a phone.

hidavi said:
I only paid $120 for my Mogul... I won't pay $900 for a phone.
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$120! Where did you pull that off, ebay?

I got my Hermes (two of them, 8525's) for $199 each from AT&T themselves. No contract extension, nothing. I just called up one day and told them what I wanted, and they gave it to me somehow. I think it's because the Tilt was like two months away so maybe they were trying to clear 'em out.
$399 for two 8525's was a deal, I thought. But no way I'm going to pay even five hundred for one phone. That really is a bit high...and 900+ is just out of the question, as far as I'm concerned.

hidavi said:
Stop yer fussin. Thats only the prices they're charging because the phones aren't even out yet. When they come out they'll probably be impossible to find too, but hopefully Sprint lets me upgrade at a discount with a new contract or something.
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Exactly. I got my Wing for $326 off eBay. $900 is not worth a phone especially when it's going to be like $300 in the next 6 months.

Just checked pricing here too and it's £480 unlocked without a contract and £200 for T-mobile flext 25 which is what I'm on. That's quite a bit more than I'm usually willing to pay - I haven't paid more than £60 for a phone on contract. As others have said though, the price will come down when it's been on the market a few months, plus we'll know all it's little bugs by then
I couldn't wait for a new phone though as I've just bricked one, so I've ordered a LG KS20 unlocked without contract (managed to brick my phone 4 months before contract is up).

Xperia X1a vs Fuze

Looks like the Xperia X1a is dropping in the U.s. at at least Best Buy for now. I have read good reviews on both devices. Has anyone seen a good head to head comparison of these two devices? It looks like they are in the same league. Thanks

I think it comes down to $299 (+2yr contract) for the Fuze, or $799 (+service you were going to pay for anyway) for a WVGA screen and headphone jack. All other pros/cons seem to vary from one reviewer to another.

The Xperia is metal construction. The Fuze is mostly plastic and high gloss black ( print magnet) The keys are spread out nice on the Xperia, bunched up on the Fuze due to the smaller size. There is a slight tilt on the Xperia and the slide is straight out on the Fuze. I know there are a lot of software differences but just wanted to state the obvious physical differences I compared.
If the Xperia sold for $600 it would be the best deal for a PDA Phone in a long while. $865 from a Sony Style store is just a lot of jack in this economy. ( tax inc )
I have looked at the FUZE and the Touch Pro at Sprint. Something has kept me from buyin either one of them. Yeah I sold the X1a a day later for about the same as what I paid for it. Sonystyle wants 15% restock fee ( ouch )

fhsieh said:
I think it comes down to $299 (+2yr contract) for the Fuze, or $799 (+service you were going to pay for anyway) for a WVGA screen and headphone jack. All other pros/cons seem to vary from one reviewer to another.
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not necessarily , because you can get the fuze for $299 on 2 year contract, unlock it for free, sell it for ~$500 and then use that money to buy the xperia, making it only 2-300 more expensive. still more than it should be, but not as bad as people are making it seem..

omaralt said:
not necessarily , because you can get the fuze for $299 on 2 year contract, unlock it for free, sell it for ~$500 and then use that money to buy the xperia, making it only 2-300 more expensive. still more than it should be, but not as bad as people are making it seem..
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Okay you two are on par, but compare it this way.
No-commitment price = $500
RETAIL PRICE = $849.99
Xprea X1a RETAIL PRICE = $800
It's a hell of a deal. Notice why I put two prices. Because you can only get the $500 deal if you're a customer of AT&T. If you're comparing the retail prices, I suggest you compare the retail prices. Not retail vs no-commitment. The $500 price is retail for AT&T customers only.

i mean, come on, anybody can get a brand new fuze for $500 + tax. If your not an at&t customer, i'm sure you know somebody whos an at&t customer, ask him/her to go buy one for you, no committment. the people who get screwed are our nice neighbors to the north (canadians). none of their gsm carriers have picked up this phone, and i hear the fuze is selling for north of $600 up there..

omaralt said:
i mean, come on, anybody can get a brand new fuze for $500 + tax. If your not an at&t customer, i'm sure you know somebody whos an at&t customer, ask him/her to go buy one for you, no committment. the people who get screwed are our nice neighbors to the north (canadians). none of their gsm carriers have picked up this phone, and i hear the fuze is selling for north of $600 up there..
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True. But I was comparing the real retail price. Not how cheap you can get it for. I mean I bet someone could get it for free if they stole it. Or $100 if they worked for Sony or whatever. You know what I meant.
My reasons: PHAIL = bad; WIN = good
NO G-SENSOR! PHAIL!
Embedded screen! PHAIL!
Screen res. WIN!/PHAIL! (depending on pov. To install apps - fail; beauty - win)
TF3D and Panels! WIN!
No tv-out! PHAIL!
Metal casing. WIN!
Roomy buttons. WIN!
Price. UBER PHAIL! (I ain't paying that much for a device. IDK if you people like buying every phone for $1000+ as some of you have.)
Sony camera. WIN!

Kraize said:
True. But I was comparing the real retail price. Not how cheap you can get it for. I mean I bet someone could get it for free if they stole it. Or $100 if they worked for Sony or whatever. You know what I meant.
My reasons: PHAIL = bad; WIN = good
NO G-SENSOR! PHAIL!
Embedded screen! PHAIL!
Screen res. WIN!/PHAIL! (depending on pov. To install apps - fail; beauty - win)
TF3D and Panels! WIN!
No tv-out! PHAIL!
Metal casing. WIN!
Roomy buttons. WIN!
Price. UBER PHAIL! (I ain't paying that much for a device. IDK if you people like buying every phone for $1000+ as some of you have.)
Sony camera. WIN!
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But I'd guess most in the US eying on an xperia are already with att, or at least considering it. After all, xperia has the att 3g band, not tmo.
As a side note, I think x1 wins in terms of form factor and battery life as well. But even if the two were the same price, I would have gotten a touch pro. I am very, VERY happy with its keyboard.

What's with this "No commitment price"? I went to Fry's Electronics (big box store like Best Buy), and bought the phone for $475+tax (This was Saturday). While my wife drove, I called up AT&T and asked them for the unlock code. They asked for the IMEA number, I gave them that... and they gave me the unlock code. Phone was up and working on the T-Mobile system before we got home 10 minutes later.
Sure, I don't have 3G... but I like my $15/month unlimited data plan with tethering and free Hotspot calling. AT&T wants $60 for that plan. At 156K/s vs 500k/s... that's just not worth it! (And no, I don't think most people could get the plan I have with T-Mobile... had an account with them since they were called VoiceStream...)
All that being said - I owned an X1i for 5 days. It was hands down the faster phone (all that AT&T garbage probably slows the Fuze down... I'll flash it after I figure out what I really want to do with it). But the screen just didn't do it for me. The Fuze screen is flush with the face of the phone and I think that is a clear win over the X1 (think about how beat up that screen is going to look after a few months). The keyboards are 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of the other in use. I could use both keyboards just fine. The X1i seemed to have this issue, however, where the software keyboard would launch any time input was required ... even if the keyboard was out. Very annoying. The Fuze let's me choose.
The X1 never locked up on me, and I did a ton of installs and had lots of apps open. The Fuze has locked up almost daily for me. Again, I think it is the AT&T bloatware, but I'm not sure.
So my review is also a little mixed. In the end I made a deal with my wife that if I didn't like the Fuze after a month or so, I'd give it to her and get the X1a (since I figure the price will have dropped by then).
Right now, at a price of $475 vs $799.99 it isn't a contest. When neither phone is a clear winner in any category I would say let value decide - and the Fuze is clearly the better value right now.

@Ghallo
Really I have no idea. Yes, it's true that you can get it for $500 anywhere. But if you call AT&T cs. They'll tell you that retail pricing is for those that don't have Aee Tee & Tee and no-commitment (retail for customers) is the no-contract price for Aee Tee & Tee customers.

Cheap Touch PRO/Raphael/TyTn III?

Anyone know the cheapest site for this phone? I want the unbranded one. All i find is 600+ which is ridiculous. i dont mind if it is used or new and ebay just hasnt been yielding that many unlocked unbranded ones. if you have one and are willing to sell to me, maybe we can work something out securely over ebay on private auction. i know this phone is only out for 2 months but hey, some people just dont like it. i am willing to trade a touch diamond unlocked unbraded + some cash and accessories for one.

Most places I have seen are about $600+. I got my Fuze for about $300 with upgrade on AT&T. That way it can support 3G. Remember not to buy the CDMA as it does not have a sim card. What provider are you with? It may be cheaper to buy a branded one from your provider.

Sorry buddy. There is no such thing as a cheap high-end device. Get a fuze if you really want it cheap. Sell your diamond for $400. Pay $100 for a fuze. Unbranded touch pros are $600+. You won't find a working model any cheaper.

thats what i kinda thought too. im bound to at&t already and still am under a contract until june and not eligible for upgrade discount until may. i really want to switch to tmobile because of their coverage at work and home is more superior in my area. an upgrade to the fuze would cost the $499 no commitment price.
i love my diamond for everything except the keyboard sucks. feels like my old iphone but way worse to type on because of the small size.
whats the difference between the cdma ones and the gsm ones? is it easier to flash one version than the other?

I'm in England and I bought mine from eBay for £390 - it wasn't brand new but only used for a week so it's as new.
I think (and this is my newbie answer!) that GSM phones (which I have) uses a sim card and CDMA uses............er.............something else?

GSM is generally easier to flash and more roms are created for GSM phones. I would love the diamond actually. I have a fuze and I barely use the hardware keyboard. I just use the compact qwerty on-screen. It's perfecty fine for me. I would've soo went for the diamond if it had removable storage. 4gb is just not enough for me. I meant go for the Touch HD, but I want 3g =/ and The touch HD looks promising, but not without a d-pad.

Did I pay too much for my ATT FUZE?

I recently just bought a Fuze for an UPGRADE from my ATT store for 210.00 after charges. So far I'm not 100% satisfied with this phone and I'm thinking about returning it. Out of the box it sucked and I feel as though I could have bought a better phone for around the same price. Thoughts?

I am surprised AT&T still sells the Fuze. They sell the newer version HTC Tilt2 for $200 with a 2-year contract. If you had to extend your contract to get the Fuze for $210, consider your options. The Fuze is a very good Windows Mobile phone but newer phones have bigger screens and ship with Windows Mobile 6.5.

210 sounds like a lot. i got mine for 40 bucks
no contract

yea, im going to take it back tomorrow. Out of the box, how is the Tilt2 compared to the fuze? the fuze is a neat phone but even after installing an updated ROM from the HTC site and putting on Diamond Tweak and Diamond TF3D and about 10 other apps I still find that the tf3d isnt very smooth/responsive and im having other problems as well. Thanks for responding guys.

lostmenoggin said:
I recently just bought a Fuze for an UPGRADE from my ATT store for 210.00 after charges. So far I'm not 100% satisfied with this phone and I'm thinking about returning it. Out of the box it sucked and I feel as though I could have bought a better phone for around the same price. Thoughts?
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Upgrade? As in you renew a contract and they gave you a Fuze for $210?
Yes, you overpaid for it. By a large amount. The phone can be purchased for about $120 unlocked nowadays.
Personally, whenever I purchase cell phones, I always do it online (yes, including by one on contract). Other places are almost always cheaper than retail stores. I remember a few months back, AT&T was selling the Touch Pro2 (i.e. Tilt2) on contract for about $250; by comparison, Amazon was offering it for free.
As for the Tilt2, it is much better than the Fuze out of the box. If you can find an AT&T store that lets you try out the phones, you can test it out yourself there.