Let me get to the point. I just got my G2x yesterday, swapped everything from my N1. On WiFi, np, I can access anything thru the internet. W/o WiFi, I still get MMS and can trick my phone in getting short data, like my current weather in a widget, etc. but when a browser is pulled up, it tells me I have the wrong data plan and I have to update.
Now, I know exactly what this is, my question is more if there is a way of circumnavigating it? I have the same plan I had w/my G1, which was just before the data plans changed and I don't want to have upgrade to one of thier new limited-unltd AND pay more on top of it. I was planning on rooting it anyway as I have my past to Androids (thanks by the way XDA, w/o this site, I couldn't have done it), but was waiting for CM7. I know there are several great ROMs out there though, many more than when I originally flashed my G1 and if by rooting it, I would work around whatever is relaying my phn info.
Oh, and so everyone knows, I haven't updated my imei yet w/TMo, but I've never experienced this before even w/o my imei being updated.
Anyway, hope my rambling has at least stayed near the tracks of reason and someone can give me an answer. If I have to update my service then I have to, I just don't like being "forced" to , makes me think AT&T and I would LOOOOOOVE to get around this!
Thx all...
Call T-Mobile and tell them what you're seeing. They'll probably first tell you that you'll have to upgrade, or pay more. Tell them that is unacceptable and you'd like to be grandfathered in.
See if that works, I've heard that some people who used T-Zones back in the day are grandfathered in at $5.99 for unlimited web. I'm not sure how valid this may be, but try your luck with T-Mobile and post back here what the outcome was.
I'll give it a try, but I'm going to give hope a chance and hold my breath hoping that maybe, just maybe, this can be circumnavigated by freezing and/or removing some sort of pre-installed mothership progam hidden in one of the many bloatware by TMo...
im grandfatherd with the 6 dollar tzones but it cut off on me last week like when i go to the web it tells me my plans not sufficent for it so idk what to do but im not gettin a data plan
If you are on T-Zones I really doubt you will be able to keep it. What I would do is call retentions and try to get them to put the grandfathered $20 Android plan on there so at least you get it for a little bit less.
Pretty much the same thing I'm getting, it redirects me to web2go.com and tells me I have to update my data plan.
Don't get me wrong, if the TMo commercial chick dressed up like a dominatrix, I would make it my screensaver among other things, it doesn't mean I long for my provider to act the role...
Did you renew your contract?? I am still using the $25 plan I got when I had my G1. At some point (can't remember if I was still on G1 or Nexus One) but I had to switch to the "Android Data Plan" instead of the G! plan (to get Visual Voicemail). My price remained the same, just the name changed. But, I didn't renew my contract when I bought this phone.
Nope, no contract.
RhynosAndroid said:
Let me get to the point. I just got my G2x yesterday, swapped everything from my N1. On WiFi, np, I can access anything thru the internet. W/o WiFi, I still get MMS and can trick my phone in getting short data, like my current weather in a widget, etc. but when a browser is pulled up, it tells me I have the wrong data plan and I have to update.
Now, I know exactly what this is, my question is more if there is a way of circumnavigating it? I have the same plan I had w/my G1, which was just before the data plans changed and I don't want to have upgrade to one of thier new limited-unltd AND pay more on top of it. I was planning on rooting it anyway as I have my past to Androids (thanks by the way XDA, w/o this site, I couldn't have done it), but was waiting for CM7. I know there are several great ROMs out there though, many more than when I originally flashed my G1 and if by rooting it, I would work around whatever is relaying my phn info.
Oh, and so everyone knows, I haven't updated my imei yet w/TMo, but I've never experienced this before even w/o my imei being updated.
Anyway, hope my rambling has at least stayed near the tracks of reason and someone can give me an answer. If I have to update my service then I have to, I just don't like being "forced" to , makes me think AT&T and I would LOOOOOOVE to get around this!
Thx all...
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Do you know the name of the actual plan you have? I am a Tech Care rep and the only time you would need to change from a grandfathered plan is if you had a generic smartphone plan instead of an android specific plan.
You may have to upgrade to the android specific, but there are ways around paying the higher cost. Retentions is a good way, got a guy the $20 buck plan yesterday to match his loyalty Blackberry internet plan through retentions.
Glad I'm on Simple Mobile can't beat the price
mikebionca06 said:
Glad I'm on Simple Mobile can't beat the price
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True but good luck with any customer service or tech support.
I just got my G2x today coming from my N1. I was able to keep my Myfaves + unlimited android data, in fact it was recommended i keep it because it has a 5gb cap and the new plan would be 2gb
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True but good luck with any customer service or tech support.
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Ive been with them since it was available ,never had to call customer support and never had an issue...
as far as i have tried the t-zones or t-web plan will not work, i had to finally ditch mine after 7 years, i did call t-mobile and asked to speak to a loyalty rep. which i then explained that i was not going to pay more than 20 for a plan with a new 2 year upgrade, which did not take to much convincing they gave me the unlimited Android data plan for 20 bucks a month. Trust me i did not want to let go of my 9.99 plan which worked great with my HD2 with 3g speeds, but for an extra 10 bucks a month its worth not having to worry about will it work and trying to find the right settings.
Yeah, I'm sure I'm going to have to buckle as well. Going to flash the CM build that was just released. After that, go the loyalty route I guess.
Oh, and...
GO POKES!
So can anyone confirm you have to upgrade from the g1 plan to take advantage of 4h data speeds?
donutman said:
So can anyone confirm you have to upgrade from the g1 plan to take advantage of 4h data speeds?
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That is just a name change - has no effect on speeds.
Still on my "Android Unlimited" for $25 (after changing from "G1 Plan" for VVM).
mikebionca06 said:
Ive been with them since it was available ,never had to call customer support and never had an issue...
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Did you buy your SIM from SM directly?
-bZj
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So can anyone confirm you have to upgrade from the g1 plan to take advantage of 4h data speeds?
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Nope, as I said Im still on my plan from my G1 that was also used on the N1. they just gave me a new sim card.
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Ive been with them since it was available ,never had to call customer support and never had an issue...
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Which is great, but if one day you need it, they don't have a contact number/e-mail listed on their website and T-Mobile can't help you.
Well, I added the "data throttling removal" patch because at least a few of the posts sounded as if by using this Paul O'Brien patch they circumnavigated the need to change plans. Alas, to no avail, although now, I shouldn't have to worry about data throttling should I downgrade to the (limited) unlimited plan.
It appears than my Holy Grail continues to elude me! At this point, I would even just accept some Knights who say "NI!" I'd trade a shrubbery for a resolution...
So my Girl had a flip phone from ages ago, she had the wap 2.0 internet on it "unlimited for like 5 bucks lol"
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so i got her an Inspire 4g.
i was trying to figure out a way to give her internet access without having to add a data plan for 30 bucks.
phone is not rooted but i can root it.
i searched but nothing helpful was found on this subject
can it be done? if so let me know. thanks.
bump
Bump,, still need your knowledge!
It's not possible to do what you want or to be running GB on a non-rooted phone.
Krayvon said:
So my Girl had a flip phone from ages ago, she had the wap 2.0 internet on it "unlimited for like 5 bucks lol" but the phone only did 2g. maybe EDGE class 10.
she wanted a phone like mine "htc evo rooted to senergy : ) " but shes on att so i bought her an insipre 4g.
i was trying to figure out a way to give her internet access without having to add a data plan for 30 bucks.
phone is not rooted running gingerbread.
i searched but nothing helpful was found on this subject.
kindly advise ways around it to save her couple bucks. i am pretty handy with phones on CDMA side not so much on GSM. so your help is appreciated.
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I don't know about how to get around the data plan, but I don't think you can be running Gingerbread not rooted.
Its all about luck, i bought an iphone from ebay and used it without a data plan for 6months, then i sold it and bought htc aria, within one hour of inserting a sim i received a message from att that we have added a data plan for your smarphone
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misunderstood
ahm12 said:
Its all about luck, i bought an iphone from ebay and used it without a data plan for 6months, then i sold it and bought htc aria, within one hour of inserting a sim i received a message from att that we have added a data plan for your smarphone
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i think you guys misunderstood me, i edited the post so it makes more sense.
i wanna know if i can get her full internet access on her phone without having to change her ad on feature.
thanks.
You should be able to use wifi for free without a data plan. Menu > Settings > Wireless and Networks, just trun on wifi and you can download as much as you want. You just can't use 3g/4g without a data plan unless I'm mistaken.
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Jake33108 said:
You should be able to use wifi for free without a data plan. Menu > Settings > Wireless and Networks, just trun on wifi and you can download as much as you want. You just can't use 3g/4g without a data plan unless I'm mistaken.
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not true, she has a data ad on her account right now (thats how she was getting data on her flip phone)
i was hoping a dedicated way around it not just utilizing wifi.
i use to get full data on my n95 with "tzone" back in the day. and i was only paying 6 bucks a month and got unlimited internet and 3g
i know there is a way around it, just need to ask the right person
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not true, she has a data ad on her account right now (thats how she was getting data on her flip phone)
i was hoping a dedicated way around it not just utilizing wifi.
i use to get full data on my n95 with "tzone" back in the day. and i was only paying 6 bucks a month and got unlimited internet and 3g
i know there is a way around it, just need to ask the right person
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So, what you think is that all of us are too stupid to know about a way to get free data if there was one? Our phones are rooted, hacked, Undervolted, OC'd and modified to death. But for some reason we all missed the free interwebz..... ........more dot.......Dots.......some dots againz...
She is on a smart phone now. It can download easily 5 and 6 gigs a month. ATT isn't going to let you do it for free.... And the data plans aren't just 30 bux. There are 15, 25, and 35.. Each for certain types of users. 15 is 200mb, 25 is 2000mb, 35 is tether and 4000mb
Those are your choices. Notice free is not one of them.
wow
tweaked said:
So, what you think is that all of us are too stupid to know about a way to get free data if there was one? Our phones are rooted, hacked, Undervolted, OC'd and modified to death. But for some reason we all missed the free interwebz..... ........more dot.......Dots.......some dots againz...
She is on a smart phone now. It can download easily 5 and 6 gigs a month. ATT isn't going to let you do it for free.... And the data plans aren't just 30 bux. There are 15, 25, and 35.. Each for certain types of users. 15 is 200mb, 25 is 2000mb, 35 is tether and 4000mb
Those are your choices. Notice free is not one of them.
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wow. i would say thanks but you didn't tell me anything new. you just whined and *****ed. i put it in Q&A to get advise and learn something new not criticism from some douche.
Krayvon said:
wow. i would say thanks but you didn't tell me anything new. you just whined and *****ed. i put it in Q&A to get advise and learn something new not criticism from some douche.
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long story short, u might be able to get a data access with watever plan she has right now...
but att has a list imei of smartphones, as soon as you gonna put in your sim in the inspire within two days they will add a 15$ plan period..
there is no way around it..
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wow. i would say thanks but you didn't tell me anything new. you just whined and *****ed. i put it in Q&A to get advise and learn something new not criticism from some douche.
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There is not a whine in the post. Just facts.
1. You think ppl are stoopid.
2. You want free.
3. You aren't gonna get it.
4. The only douche is you. Not once did I criticize you. You can't even comprehend what you read.
Whine example;
waaaa. I want free interwebz, waaaaa.
See the difference?
P.S. Now I'm making fun of you, more so then criticizing. Just in case your comprehension skillz still haven't kicked in.
Hey guys got a quick question. When you tether a rooted phone is there a way to not use your data plan? I tethered my phone yesterday, but as everyone knows unless you were grandfathered in with a unlimited data plan you can not get an unlimited plan. Needless to say I already used all my data. I thought when you tethered a rooted phone ATT could not tell you were using data. If there is a way could someone please explain how to do it. I am using OS RCMix.Energized, Please help and thank you.
What??? What do you think gives you the ability to surf the web when tethered? Data doesn't just magically appear. It uses your phones data connection.
please go away. we arent going to help you bypass and steal from AT&T. you apparently don't understand what this site is for. Go to the ATT store and have them help you.
Hey guys there is no reason to get mean about it all you have to do is explain. Didn't you guys start out not knowing how all this works. I'm new to rooting and I asked a simple question no need to tell someone to go away. All you needed to do was answer my question. Sorry you guys think I asked such a STUPID question. Thought this was where a person could get a decent answer even if it wasn't what I wanted to hear. Thanks for being so obnoxious and rude. K.M.A.
scrappy1959 said:
Hey guys got a quick question. When you tether a rooted phone is there a way to not use your data plan? I tethered my phone yesterday, but as everyone knows unless you were grandfathered in with a unlimited data plan you can not get an unlimited plan. Needless to say I already used all my data. I thought when you tethered a rooted phone ATT could not tell you were using data. If there is a way could someone please explain how to do it. I am using OS RCMix.Energized, Please help and thank you.
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Please search before opening a new thread and do some research.
This is a development forum not a user support forum