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Basically, I am looking for a QWERTY soft keyboard with larger keys than the built in one in Portrait mode.
I apologise if there really is a well known solution to my aggravation. It must have trekked over the horizon, cos I spent atleast 6 hours last night trying to find it.
So, I find the most convenient way to type is with thumb or fingers, and I can do this on the built-in keyboard, with a moderate accuracy. It's still more convenient than getting out the stylus.
I have demod perhaps 15 different SIP Keyboards now and NONE of them have a larger keyboard in Portrait mode than the built-in keyboard.... WHY? They either have large keys and a stupid gimmick or small keys and a standard QWERTY. Could the calligrapher keyboard be any smaller?
Here is my ideal SIP Keyboard: a qwerty keyboard with just the letters (and . , ?) on screen, but taking upto half of the screen. The numbers can be hidden under a shift or alt key.
Does this exist? All the large key keyboards I have found take up the whole screen, which I find very irritating in itself.
We've all the seen the iphone and its keyboard right? Is there not a single program with good size keys for ppc? I found one that is ABCD etc. not qwerty and the guy wanted to charge over 100 dollars on handango.
Please Please Please. Help me and suggest a solution. Thank you.
PS. I have found ideal software for the Palm OS, is there a version for PPC? Look here:
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...e=english&platformId=1&N=96804 95766&R=165068
I just found a good one for all those interested.
Its called Happy Tapping Keyboard. It resides on some obscure korean site i think. Do a google search and use the translate option. It works enough to understand.
So far it is hands down the best keyboard available. Its larger than the built in one and even larger in landscape, but most importantly it only takes up a little bit of the screen, so you can still see stuff.
I highly recommend. And it is free and skinnable. You can also add a WAV sound to the tap, an audio aide so you know when you have hit it. That is if you dont want to enable all screen tap sounds in WM5.
some details
Thanks for this HTK program,
this is the link for download :
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/KOTETU/00000103
once it is downloaded, you need to move the cab file directly to your device (don't run it from your computer).
and this is the one for some skins :
http://blogs.shintak.info/articles/979.aspx
put them in the picture folder or a folder that you will easily find on your device.
choose the right VGA/QVGA mode
to change the skin :
go to setting then choose the keyboard icon and find the skin you put in your folder.
et voila !
rq : would be nice if the button could be bigger !
and it is obsure japanese not korean,
cheers
I can't seem to find "\" char... anyone enlighten me pls
Why do you want to translate a Korean site when you can just get it next door.. yes, next door here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455&highlight=
I do a LOT of email and texting and i use a Tytn with hardware keyboard now. But my Tytn is slowly dying. I need a replacement.
I need a little help here:
- Any hardcore email/texting fans that happily work with an onscreen keyboard? Looks tempting, because the formfactor is way better. Or do i need a phone with a hardware keyboard?
- Are there any tests/reviews that compare hardware vs software keyboard in typing speed and typos?
I bought my TyTnII because of the qwerty hardware keyboard but I find I harldy use it.
I use Resco keyboard as welll as some of the other inbuilt ones.
WDawn said:
- Are there any tests/reviews that compare hardware vs software keyboard in typing speed and typos?
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The Hardware Keyboard was a main reason to buy my phone.
If you speak German you should read this.
http://www.golem.de/0711/56006.html
if not here´s a little summary
iphone keyboard VS Hardware Keyboard
-Both groups tipped equal fast
-5,4 mistakes per mail (iphone) 1,4 hardware keyboard.
-the people in the test voted for preferred method and 85% liked the hardware keyboard better.
It really comes down to you, but....
If you want my opinion, I have done a LOT of comparison between various on screen keyboards and hardware keyboards and for me I can type faster on my Touch with PCM Keyboard and my custom skins and layouts than any of my hardware keyboards.
The reason is simple. With a screen keyboard (and the right software/skin/layout) I am able to take elements from hardware keyboards and various other quicker input methods.
For example, on my PCM skins, I added a features from my BlackBerry 8310, where you press and hold a letter for a caps and press and hold the space bar for a period and a space. I added elements from the iPhone keyboard of holding and sliding your finger for numbers, symbols, .com, etc that is not possible with a hard keyboard. On the number page, the numbers are bigger than any hard keyboard I have seen.
For me size and weight is one of the biggest factors. I like to keep my phone in my pocket (don't like cases or clips) and all my hardware keyboards (with the exception of the S710) are too big and heavy. I use the touch over the iPhone because of weight and size as well.
Forget about keyboards, and get the phone you want, keyboard or not, then if its too bad, you can always pick up a bluetooth keyboard to put in a bag when you need to do some hardcore writing.
That's what I'm planning to do if I get a Diamond
I am new to WM as before had only a regular Sony E. cellphone and I hated T9.
I now use a touchscreen only phone ( atom life).
I use fitaly and lately created a PCM fitaly layout ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2413491&posted=1#post2413491 )
its quick for me. i dont miss having buttons to press. but i dont always like covering up usually 20% to 50% of the screen
you should try using your tytn with just software kb for a week. see if it fits your needs. give it maybe 2-3 days per sip of your choice.
Popular finger sips: Diamond and similar HTCs, PCM , tengo thumb/regular, resco ... many others
for stylus only i do recommend fitaly, there are others...but im used to something.
True about the bluetooth KB for when u need it
Thank you for your replies! Will try type with the software keyboard on my Tytn. Great test between the Iphone and Blackberry btw, wich makes me think that'll have to stick with the hardware keyboard.
Bluetooth keyboard! I did try all three methods for more than a year each and external folding keyboard is wayyyy better.
Hi, i was wondering if anyone knows about large t9/xt9 keyboard that works with TD2. I like the htc phonepad, but I feel it's a bit jittered, and would like one with larger buttons instead of the arrow and symbol keys around the sides.
Thanks in advance
Too many different options to list but do a search on SIPs.
I know there is Finger Keyboard developed here and many other SIPS such as Touch Pal, Zoom Board, Resco Keyboard, etc.
I use Touch Pal because it is functional and acts like Zoom Board by magnifying the pressed key.
National Lithuanian for standart HD2 keyboard (Ezinput) Full QWERTY Layout.
Cursor keys swaped (up, right etc..)
Cursor keys moved to left side of the keyboard
Vibro reduced to 1
National keys added (long press).
TAB key instead of XT9
Click volume reduced
No more need for FingerKeyboard or other if you do not demand much from the keyboard
Unistallable, so you can easily revert to original.
Haven't tested without policy disabled (unasigned apps). Perhaps you need to set this option with BsB Tweaks to install the cab.
v2.3 Landscape cursor keys on left side.
v3.1 Landscape cursor keys location something like on fingerkeyboard
Tool that helps to modify keyboard - XmlGui: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551813
If you like may work you can buy me some beer
Donate if you like my work.
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Not that I would need it, cause I only use english keyboard for everything more or less, but good job anyway!
essensial said:
Not that I would need it, cause I only use english keyboard for everything more or less, but good job anyway!
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It's not a problem to make better english version!!! If someone needs it is possible Just ask.
What I did - everything exept "national keys" are useful for everyone- lowered vibro, lowered sound, space moved to right, cursor key placed in first row. It is more comfortable for me.
I do not understand what the guys who made keyb were thinking about - in original layout space not reachable with right thumb, vibro too strong sound to loud - in 10 mins that things become anoying
And whats funny if i rotate screen 270 degrees - keyboard rotates also - but the keys that pop on press a not rotated, I mean they stay as on 90 degrees rotation layout ha ha ha
Why I'm telling that- on HD2 default layout would be more comfortable using 270 but not 90 as is .... Strange why cursor keys are on right side because that position is more comfortable to be on left..on 90 Try...
Is there anybody who can help/give me information about that damn HTC keyboard. I have some ideas but still didn't find out how to do (eg. how to make space of bigger width - where is the png that is used for space button ?)
Thanks in advance.
linuxis,
it's nice to see your work.
I'd like to know how did you make it, because I'd like to make something similar but I'd like to experiment a little ... and probably make a full Bulgarian layout.
What's required to accomplish this?
Updated to version 2.3 - cursor keys moved to left
I would be cool if you could make a keyboard with easy access to "æ, ø, å" for us danish users... I would seriously call you my god if you could pull that off
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Updated to version 2.3 - cursor keys moved to left
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Nors ir nenaudoju LT kalbos, bet dekui anyway
Puiku. Bandysiu naudoti.
Thanks Linuxis ! Good job.
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linuxis,
it's nice to see your work.
I'd like to know how did you make it, because I'd like to make something similar but I'd like to experiment a little ... and probably make a full Bulgarian layout.
What's required to accomplish this?
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If you have a tool look inside the cab. Basically these files are modified.
0C09.xml
0D09.xml
1C00.xml
LQ_Bg.png
LQ_Bg_Inv.png
PQ_Bg.png
PQ_Bg_Inv.png
LQSym_Bg.png
LQSym_Bg_Inv.png
All layout is in xml files, they inside has links to the images.
By the images you can say what layout they represend.
LQ - Landscape
PQ - portrait
LQSym - numeric keyboard layout
xxx.xml xxx - code of the language you modify.
xml structure is very simple, just layout tag/ page tag (several pages eg in numeric layout)/ key tags with coordinates. You can find key by key ID, and change the key or the values on long key press.
I think that is enough to start.
pspbirte said:
I would be cool if you could make a keyboard with easy access to "æ, ø, å" for us danish users... I would seriously call you my god if you could pull that off
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I just need to know what symbols shoud be placed where and what layout is the best for the danish symbols because I do not know danish . I mean - first row-long press (like lithuanian layout) or "æ" on "a" longpress ? And the symbols also needed.
linuxis said:
I just need to know what symbols shoud be placed where and what layout is the best for the danish symbols because I do not know danish . I mean - first row-long press (like lithuanian layout) or "æ" on "a" longpress ? And the symbols also needed.
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Based on your information in this tread, I did make a Norwegian/Danish layout. Thank you very much to pull me in the rigth direction.
It's available here:
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?showtopic=1163736&st=2780&p=15366818&#entry15366818
Has anyone made a Swedish keyboard?
i'd like a german layout with the € symbol at the e key, the arrows in landscape on the other side, disabled xt9 key and the rest standard would it be possible?
or could you share the base files so i can mod them myself ?
nice i managed to do the mods for myself, at least the mods with changing the keys!
but as i saw the layout editing isn't that hard either, just redo all coords and the png file
nice linuxis for your inspiration!
but i asked myself, if it is possible to do smiles on a long press function, as i understood the xml code, it's not that easy cause a normal <char> tag prints all the keys while a <LP_char> tag gives the option to choose ...
Thanks mate for a long awaited LT keyboard.
endursa said:
nice i managed to do the mods for myself, at least the mods with changing the keys!
but as i saw the layout editing isn't that hard either, just redo all coords and the png file
nice linuxis for your inspiration!
but i asked myself, if it is possible to do smiles on a long press function, as i understood the xml code, it's not that easy cause a normal <char> tag prints all the keys while a <LP_char> tag gives the option to choose ...
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One more tip for modders - check this tool XmlGui: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551813
It also helps for changing keyboard layout
One more tip:
index.xml in this file you can change vibro stregth and file to play (tick.wav)
Ačiū, linuxis, labai laukiau.
Thanks for a long awaited LT keyboard
Can somebody please upload 0C09.xml and 0D09.xml from a standard US keyboard, please? The files are located in the Windows directory.
Thanks... /TubGirl
I remember seeing a few months/weeks back about an updated version of SwiftKey that was designed specifically for use in landscape mode for the galaxy tab. In all the current keyboards that I have tried, the keys are extremely short which makes it difficult to type with all my fingers (yes, I am trying to learn).
My question is if anyone knows of a really good keyboard that I can download that has taller keys to make it easier to type in landscape.
Thanks,
caveman999
I use Thumb Keyboard. In the preferences you can adjust the height of the keys (you can have different settings for portrait if you so wish). Personally I find the default setting to be the best compromise between key height and screen view: much higher and the keyboard covers too much of the screen for my taste
Thumb Keyboard and Notion Ink's keyboard have been the least painful for me to use.
Thumb keyboard is really great in that you barely have to move your hands to get access to the entire alphabet, unlike most keyboards which just scale up and require you to move your hands quite a bit to type a full sentence.
The Notion Ink keyboard is also great in that it feels like a full keyboard on the 7'' screen. Ctrl, Fn, Arrow keys, and it looks great to boot (Thumb keyboard is a bit of an eye sore)
Smart Keyboard is height adjustable independantly of each mode (portrait/landscape).
It'd be quite nice if you could stop the input box taking up the entire top half of the screen in any keyboard though as it makes them a lot less useful to use with IM apps.
Link3737 said:
Thumb Keyboard and Notion Ink's keyboard have been the least painful for me to use.
Thumb keyboard is really great in that you barely have to move your hands to get access to the entire alphabet, unlike most keyboards which just scale up and require you to move your hands quite a bit to type a full sentence.
The Notion Ink keyboard is also great in that it feels like a full keyboard on the 7'' screen. Ctrl, Fn, Arrow keys, and it looks great to boot (Thumb keyboard is a bit of an eye sore)
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Thanks, I have started using both of the keyboards and so far I really like thumb Keyboard, but you are right, it is kind of ugly.
Sent from my AT&T Galaxy Tab using XDA App
U realize there are themes? Or do u mean the layout?
From the Tab.
www.twitter.com/ayman07
Just a question, can you edit layout too in thumb keyboard?
thanks
knightnz said:
Smart Keyboard is height adjustable independantly of each mode (portrait/landscape).
It'd be quite nice if you could stop the input box taking up the entire top half of the screen in any keyboard though as it makes them a lot less useful to use with IM apps.
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thumb keyboard has the option to disable full screen take over
natious said:
thumb keyboard has the option to disable full screen take over
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As does Smart Keyboard Pro
Any of these thump keyboards with danish letters? (thinking æøå) Tried thump keyboard but couldn't find danish letters for it.
PsymonDK said:
Any of these thump keyboards with danish letters? (thinking æøå) Tried thump keyboard but couldn't find danish letters for it.
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When you turn off "long press for numbers and symbols" you get little popup keyboards above the letters from which you can choose accented letters: the æ and å are accessible by long pressing the a, the ø by long pressing the o.
A scandinavian keyboard with those letters right on the main keyboard (not as popup key entries) will be released soon.